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WYSR: The King Killer Chronicles

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Daniel Greene

Daniel Greene

Күн бұрын

My thoughts on the fantasy epic by Patrick Rothfuss, The King Killer Chronicles and why you should read it.
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@DanielGreeneReviews
@DanielGreeneReviews 4 жыл бұрын
What books have you changed your mind on a bit as time has gone by?
@zidane456
@zidane456 4 жыл бұрын
All newer sci-fi. Grew up reading nothing but old Asimov and Doctor Who books so they were hard to get into when changing over into more character intensive stories. Now Peter f. Hamilton's Commonwealth series is my favourite sci-fi series of all time. Fantastic books. Edit: obviously also was a little difficult to get into the bigger fantasy series, because I basically started with WoT and Malazan. Now they are some of my favourite fantasy series. Behind the First Law though.
@zanb1747
@zanb1747 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely books by Sarah J Maas. The more time passed the more I grown to... not like them as much as I used to. Now I'm struggling with finishing the last Throne of Glass book mostly for closure.
@monsouranda2822
@monsouranda2822 4 жыл бұрын
You're probably gonna hate me on this. But for me its the Foundation series.
@lewismansah6479
@lewismansah6479 4 жыл бұрын
(spoiler warning for the prince of thorns series) The Princes of Thorns series, I liked iy because of the audiobook, but as the story went on, I started to dislike it. After the next book I started to hate the character. But I held hope, I thought that he would meet a girl who soften his rotten heart. Oh how wrong was I! I listen to last book just hoping, praying for a redemption arch, but none came. So I started liking and ending hating it. Now, after typing this, let me take a hundred showers, to clean my mind and soul.
@rebelknight8223
@rebelknight8223 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Greene Wheel of time.
@fdmct
@fdmct 4 жыл бұрын
Why you should read: the series is pretty good Why you shouldn't read: next book probably won't come out within the next century
@tomboyle4312
@tomboyle4312 4 жыл бұрын
I'm picking up unusual levels of sarcasm in this sector, Captain
@Hadrian1616
@Hadrian1616 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomboyle4312 lmao
@jossecoupe446
@jossecoupe446 4 жыл бұрын
@@gamesarefunyea Ha! Good one man! I should write that one down!
@csutherland1995
@csutherland1995 4 жыл бұрын
gamesarefunyea it’s was also scheduled to release in 2018... sooo
@captainwilhelm9657
@captainwilhelm9657 4 жыл бұрын
@@gamesarefunyea no it isn't if you're referring to the date on Amazon that's just a placeholder
@brancellbooks
@brancellbooks 4 жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite Fantasy Storytelling ever is when Rothfuss is telling a ‘legend’ or ‘folktale’ within the world. Myr Tariniel, the Luckless Boy, the Cthaeh, every single tale is dripping with this ethereal, unreal energy that I find beyond compelling.
@ashadeofnight
@ashadeofnight 4 жыл бұрын
The Ctaeh is a cool concept
@CheatcodeGlitch
@CheatcodeGlitch 4 жыл бұрын
The story where the boys butt falls off is my favorite
@codybear5840
@codybear5840 4 жыл бұрын
I just wish there was more lore on the Chandrian. Such an awesome concept imo. Leave me thirsting for more
@nicholastrickel6917
@nicholastrickel6917 Жыл бұрын
@@CheatcodeGlitch I've does re reading that part the last 5 times I've reread that book. ❤️
@soraauri3686
@soraauri3686 4 жыл бұрын
On the next episode of "Fantasy news" : KZfaqr known for his controversial opinion on the "Kingkiller Chronicles" actually recommends the books.
@Thulnos23
@Thulnos23 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a hypocrite is nothing more than a man in the process of changing. -Brandon Sanderson, Oathbringer
@joaofarias9986
@joaofarias9986 4 жыл бұрын
That's perfect
@edifiedreader
@edifiedreader 4 жыл бұрын
And people say fantasy can’t be deep. Psh
@Dragnumb55
@Dragnumb55 Жыл бұрын
Words never were said that ring so true
@manuam98
@manuam98 8 ай бұрын
I guess the Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez is a Sanderson fan.
@HeavyTopspin
@HeavyTopspin 4 жыл бұрын
"Planned as a trilogy"... Let's remember that WoT was supposed to be six books. No way this ends in 3.
@Ollearonsson
@Ollearonsson 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he wants to stick to a trilogy and the doors of stone is 5k pages. Maybe that's the reason for it taking a decade hehe
@qbanboi069
@qbanboi069 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is gonna be a trilogy.. and a lot of the questions we have.. well the big ones at least, will be answered. But the other not so pertinent and world stuff will be left unanswered... until supplementary books come out :D
@cavyq
@cavyq 4 жыл бұрын
Im sure that The Wise Mans Fear would've been better if it was split into at least 2 books. I still love the book, just wish he would've taken more time to go in depth into the arcs.
@captainwilhelm9657
@captainwilhelm9657 4 жыл бұрын
Kingkiller Chronicle will be a trilogy but Roofhus has hinted that it is a prologue so what'll probably happen is that book 3 will finish Kvothe's story but the main conflict won't be resolved and instead it will be dealt with in the other books if they ever get written
@berserker8884
@berserker8884 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainwilhelm9657 i suspect he is writing drafts for further books and outlining them, planning them, creating the world/characters, etc. But he is also polishing book 3 at the same time so that it will all tie together well. That is what I think, but I could be wrong of course.
@disorientedkiwi7984
@disorientedkiwi7984 4 жыл бұрын
Who are you and what have you done with Daniel Greene?
@GabrielRodriguesYT
@GabrielRodriguesYT 4 жыл бұрын
Well, if he starts praising Terry Goodkind's work, we can certainly get worried...
@pIayingwithmahwii
@pIayingwithmahwii 4 жыл бұрын
@@GabrielRodriguesYT xD haha rawr
@lukeblake91
@lukeblake91 4 жыл бұрын
@@GabrielRodriguesYT ooohhh I so want to see this video. Maybe next april
@GabrielRodriguesYT
@GabrielRodriguesYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukeblake91 Me too
@MrToddinoz
@MrToddinoz 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly your relationship with KKC is one of the greater reasons I have incredible respect for you as a reviewer. Nothing better highlights your ability to separate your subjective and objective criticisms of a book than your videos with this series. Combined with the fact that it's a great example of your growth as a reviewer, with your evolving opinion on the series as you grow and come across more and more content. I am a massive KKC fan and still agree with a heavy majority of what you had to say about the series, and I really want to thank you for not letting a distaste for the series to make you not recommend it to others who might very much enjoy it.
@DanielGreeneReviews
@DanielGreeneReviews 4 жыл бұрын
John Todd thanks man!
@qbanboi069
@qbanboi069 4 жыл бұрын
I think the next great epic fantasy should be about Daniel's (Mr. Greene's? Dan's? DannyBoy's!?) relationship with this book, and it culminating at the end with him receiving a signed copy of the third book and ultimately reading and reviewing it. But I agree with you John, big fan of the KKC and also agree with most of what Daniel (I'm sticking with Daniel) has to say. I love this series a lot, even though I don't believe Kvothe to be the best guy out there... I mean the guy is a bit of a tool at times. I both appreciate and respect Danie's thoughts and the evolution of how he's been able to express and review this series. Keep up the great work.
@abigailslade3824
@abigailslade3824 3 жыл бұрын
John Todd yes it is one of the reasons I feel I can always trust Dan’s opinion, I might not always agree with them, but I can always respect his thoughts.
@aubreyjane6659
@aubreyjane6659 4 жыл бұрын
After reading the second book...there's NO WAY it's gonna be a trilogy unless it's like 2000 pages or something.
@Darth_Pro_x
@Darth_Pro_x 4 жыл бұрын
He said the third book will be shorter then the second. though he also said it won't be the last book in that world, so it might still not be the end of the story
@hulkamania5071
@hulkamania5071 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darth_Pro_x he also said he's written 3-400k words which is more than wise mans fear
@cbpd89
@cbpd89 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly never thought Kvothe was unreliable to the point that he's lying, he's just biased. Of course his motivations are "pure" in his own mind. That being said, he isn't really a nice guy, I've always thought he was kind of an arrogant, self centered, thought he was smarter than he really was kind of guy. He reminds me of people I've met with genius level IQs who can't seem to figure out basic skills that would let them keep a job or relationship healthy.
@atlasprime6193
@atlasprime6193 4 жыл бұрын
He does carry that weight, but he would never had been that way if his family wasn’t butchered, didn’t get trapped in Tarbean that taught him the cruelty of the status quo system, facing the worse of the poor and the rich indigenous, without a care of normal civility. The majority are cruel and full of disdain, always judging a book by its cover. Cynicism, self-righteous anger, and pessimism are born from those who are something else, but have been treated unjustly by simple misunderstanding. Kvothe faced that for three hard years, and then one time losing his patronage simply because of his Edema Ruh background. And growing through child to adolescent, it is simple conditioning that made into what he is. In terms of nature, his honesty was at least intact. He is of the Edema Ruh, after all; storytelling is in his blood. He would bend the truth, but he would never break it, because that of itself is lying. Bending the truth is like adding legends to the context. That’s what storyteller does. 100% truth would make it boring. So yes, he can be a real asshole at times, doing things that makes us want to shout at the book, at him, to stop. That’s just what life taught him after his tragedy. But I don’t believe he’s lying or being biased, at least not completely. I think there are some, and some of them are used for dramatic flare for his biography. Also, we are witnessing a tragic story here. It isn’t your typical hero’s journey, the story is set up for a bad end for Kvothe with everything that’s been hinted in each book. And by his current presentation, he seems to be wrapped in guilt. People who usually retold their story in this state would portray themselves in bad light, in their lowest self-esteem. After all, that was his silence. The heavy weight of guilt pressuring down on his existence. The kind of silence that silents all other silences. It was “the patient, cut-flower sound of a man who is waiting to die”. So at the very least, this could be looked as the one thing that’s making Kvothe biased in his narration, which is self-damnation.
@cbpd89
@cbpd89 4 жыл бұрын
I think you nailed it, heatwave. 100% agree. Kvothe's flaws are so rooted in his tragedy. They come about because of his horrific trauma as a child and will ultimately lead to...well, whatever brought him to be his current, self loathing, inn keeping self. I love him as a character because of it. He's an arrogant jerk sometimes, that's what makes him feel real to me.
@megteg
@megteg 2 жыл бұрын
I agree- he is VERY talented so a lot of his issues don’t stem from being inadequate, they stem from his pride and hot headed temper which as a reader I thought was super interesting because many very talented people are like this and end up getting in their own way
@juliall255
@juliall255 2 жыл бұрын
@@atlasprime6193 i. LOVE. YOU. Everything you said beyond perfect
@juliall255
@juliall255 2 жыл бұрын
@@megteg He is also very traumatised as well. People need to understand how such deep trauma both shapes and cripple you as you navigate the world around you. There is no such thing as therapy in that age and world so Kvothe's worst traits being amplified by his trauma is inevitable and maybe we shouldn't be so quick to condemn him. Anyone who has suffered as he has would probably react in similar ways, if not worse.
@MultiSokka
@MultiSokka 4 жыл бұрын
He didn't win over Felurian by sex, even he says that in the book, he wins her over cuz of the song and his power over the wind. He makes a song about her but doesn't finish it and says if she doesn't free him the song won't spread over the world and no one will know of Felurian. After he makes that deal with her, she starts teaching him about sex and stuff about it.
@giorgitsereteli2809
@giorgitsereteli2809 10 ай бұрын
Yes.
@TheCruss32
@TheCruss32 4 жыл бұрын
The music not the sex is what allowed him to escape, she let him go so that he could finish a song about her.
@eduardonegrao8364
@eduardonegrao8364 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the dude actually read the book at this point
@Law-of-EnTropy
@Law-of-EnTropy 4 жыл бұрын
The countless webs of plots in his books was like a dopaminergic surge to my plot-driven brain. Also, regarding Pat's female characters, if you like Auri, you can read her Novella. He really painted a *real* person with Auri, the psychology behind her character. And then, he once mentioned that he had a project about a middle-aged mother going on an adventure in the same world, but his publishers told him to focus on the third book.
@evilemuempire9550
@evilemuempire9550 5 ай бұрын
I loved Auri, I cried when she comforted Kvothe after the plum incident
@erikpip3024
@erikpip3024 4 жыл бұрын
I have "accidentally" stayed up past midnight reading both books because I was so engaged and could not put them down
@camron1103
@camron1103 3 жыл бұрын
Me 100%
@miklein01
@miklein01 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could read that fast. Haha took me 2 hours to read 57 pages in a very engaging page turning Andy Weir book.
@RobinsMusic
@RobinsMusic 3 жыл бұрын
How tf do you read that fast
@erikpip3024
@erikpip3024 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobinsMusic ha, multiple midnights
@RobinsMusic
@RobinsMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikpip3024 ooh okay, that makes me feel a little better about myself haha
@colindavis6321
@colindavis6321 4 жыл бұрын
I think the criticism of Kvothe escaping Felurian as "so good at sex the first time a sex demon lets you go" is focused on a misinterpretation of what that scenario actually is. Kvothe is unskilled but through weeks (or years? It's implied Kvothe spent a LOT more time in there than he expected) he eventually learns about the sensual arts from Felurian. But this isn't why she let him go. She was perfectly happy to keep him and wear him out until he died like all the others. Kvothe had to trick her into letting him go so he could write a properly descriptive poem about her. It's important characterization that is consistent with Kvothe's well-intended but selfish actions to escape danger. It's an easy criticism to fall into at a surface level look but I think it's more nuanced than you say it is. I agree with the problematic female characterization and would love to see Rothfuss tackle more projects to properly flesh out any female characters, Kingkiller or not, and I'd like to thank you for making this third "review" of the books to show how some of your opinions have evolved. Keep being awesome
@turabulhaq9698
@turabulhaq9698 3 жыл бұрын
This. Someone finally put into words the frustration I felt whenever I hear the "Best At Sex" argument.
@jacksonlynch1731
@jacksonlynch1731 3 жыл бұрын
Very much this. I love this channel, but I think sometimes Daniel misses some nuance because he dislikes things at the surface level. And I am not trying to be harshly critical here. But there have been a few times in his reviews where I listen to what he is saying and think "Bro...how did you miss the point that badly?" I definitely listen to his reviews prior to picking up new fantasy books, because I always know after listening whether or not a book is worth picking up. But I think he is wrong about TKC. And this is a great example of why. Thank you for taking the time to write this down.
@DeltaSpartanLord
@DeltaSpartanLord 3 жыл бұрын
I think you've hit the nail on the head, here. Is our fiery boy a little too good at a little too much? Probably, but I also expect some explanation in book three. I also think that Rothfuss shows he can write women well by writing pieces of each of his women well (sorry if I misspell any names, I've almost exclusively listened to the audiobook): Devvy is written exceptionally overall I think, and Kvothe sort of excludes her from his usual teenage boy view of women most times because of what she represents in his life (even when she flirts with him pretty brazenly), but because she is mostly present as a business entity we don't see into her as deeply as some others; Fella and Mola are both given better actual characterization than most women in any book were forty years ago, and better than most women in non-lit media today, though they are admittedly a bit lacking by contemporary standards in the medium, which simply fits the lens of the story well; the women of the Adem (with one obvious exception) are well-realized as interpretations of a very alien culture, and examples of very different people that might come from such an upbringing, but they do feel at times to be little more than that, though again, it seems to fit the lens of the story quite well that those traits are what Kote stresses in his storytelling; Meluin Lackless feels a bit archetypal as... Well, the entitled rich woman of this era, but still has a distinctly recognizable voice as an individual, something I also see in Hespa (though her archetypal behaviour is obviously a bit different as a mercenary); Honestly I really love Denna's writing, every bit of it - though Kvothe has an unhealthy relationship with her and he clearly views her in a way that is bad for them both, but just SO FRUSTRATINGLY CLOSE to being deeply wholesome and healthy (this is something that Kote is still a bit blind to, I think, which is foreshadowed by his argument with Bast over her perceived perfection) - but she is written with clear ambitions, trauma, and personality that Kvothe is simply blinded to because he idolizes her so (though it isn't terribly difficult to pick up on these things being subtly incorporated even before the big reveal in book two when Kvothe eavesdrops on her), though I can still understand why many people dislike her as a character I maintain that she is well-written, just not especially well-viewed by the POV character; and obviously, Auri is perfect in every way, and I will accept no argument on that point (though if you see her as an example of writing a child or something of the sort, more than writing a woman, I can certainly understand not counting her toward this criticism for that reason)
@megteg
@megteg 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree- I think sometimes people don’t look into the details enough to understand the “realities” of the book. Well said tho
@espygaming5101
@espygaming5101 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeltaSpartanLord I think the "too good and too much" is even a bit of an oversight, as the whole point of Kvothe from the beginning was that he was an EXCEPTIONAL learner. He could pick things up amazingly quick, I find people dont have the same contempt for him completing his training with the Adem but the same principle applies, he learns amazingly fast. THAT is his "super power" or shtick. It would make sense that he became a very capable sexual being after spending time with Felurian, the literal sex demon who has lived for centuries.
@berserker8884
@berserker8884 4 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS Well the one thing that sold book 2 for me A LOT is the sheer incredible amount of amazing world building. Most of the big world building we know about KKC is from the second book in fact. Im a huge sucker for that and as youve said Pat is the best here, only Eichiro Oda(people call him Goda for a reason) surpassing him of course. Secondly, I love the Ademre culture. Pat gets to show of his experience with different cultures and languages. The fact that singing is the most intimate thing to the Adem people is fascinating. They also know the real original names of the seven, which again ties into the world building aspect I love. The maer stuff was fun and interesting, though I must admit Andross Guile and Kip surpass that a bit. I LOVED the scene where Kvothe murders the fake Edema Ruh, because of how brutal and atmospheric the scene was, him not having an easy time killing them but the fact he chased them one by one down killing them slowly... jesus. Anyhow, love the second book regardless.
@Ubsiqeqown
@Ubsiqeqown 4 жыл бұрын
I love the king killer chronicles so much that i almost wish i never read it because the anticipation for the third book is killing me
@RoryVanBeek
@RoryVanBeek 4 жыл бұрын
I have an issue with everyone that says that Kvothe being so amazing with Felurian is why she let him go. It's not. It's the fact that he spoke her True Name. Felurian was terrified that Kvothe would kill her. She hadn't someone that could do that.
@occheermommy
@occheermommy Жыл бұрын
Plus she wanted to be told she was the best compared to all women so he manipulated her by saying he was a virgin so she would send him off to prove herself right
@slavking2797
@slavking2797 4 жыл бұрын
Up next: WYSR: Wizards First Rule!
@jackinthebox1993
@jackinthebox1993 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Hadrian1616
@Hadrian1616 4 жыл бұрын
That'll be the day....and yet
@riignis5126
@riignis5126 4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine it being an April fool’s
@Hadrian1616
@Hadrian1616 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a video titled: Jerry Godkind - 10 reasons why you should read Wizards First Rule...
@GabrielRodriguesYT
@GabrielRodriguesYT 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please. 😂
@brouhajoe
@brouhajoe 4 жыл бұрын
Your reading and summory of the Felurian encounter, and the motivations and power dynamics of that interaction, is simply not what is described in the book, reliable narrator or not. If you're ever inclined, maybe give that section a re-read some time, and give it the benefit of the doubt that what you may have interpreted the first time through is not actually what's happening between these two characters. Things to look for if you do: -Kvothe is trained, not the natural you describe. -Her interest in him is not about the sex, it's about loneliness, intrigue, power, and ultimately, ego.
@megteg
@megteg 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@viniciusmoura4521
@viniciusmoura4521 4 жыл бұрын
The Kingkiller Chronicles was the responsible for me being a huge fan of fantasy nowadays. I read The Name of The Wind and A Wise Man's Fear every year
@atlasprime6193
@atlasprime6193 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for recommending this story to others who didn’t know about this series. Kvothe’s story deserves to be heard. And the writing is good too. To me, if I ever had to sum up Patrick’s writing skill in this series, it would be this: This is the man who let’s you see the sound of music. To hear and know the human struggle. To feel an untouchable world through papers. To taste a familiar story, ever so new. This...is the man who let’s you see the sound of silence. The last sentence is important because it basically got him the right publishing company to make his book the New York #1 Best Seller. It was from the prologue. Just reading that one page hooked the company to beg Pat to take them as their publisher. Now that’s power in storytelling.
@mralireza931
@mralireza931 4 жыл бұрын
My friend recommended the name of the wind to me. I read it. It was one of the worst stories of I have ever read and I'm reading fiction for 20+ years. So no, I'm just sad that this video may encourage some one to read this book and waste his/her precious time.
@mralireza931
@mralireza931 4 жыл бұрын
@@cthulhusbodypillow Well you can waste your time if you want. I have the right to warn people to don't waste theirs.
@humptusdumptus4123
@humptusdumptus4123 3 жыл бұрын
@@mralireza931 incredibly bad take
@felipecorpuz2476
@felipecorpuz2476 4 жыл бұрын
I just started my 7th reread of the books. Still seeing clues I haven't found before.
@tildenhammond8086
@tildenhammond8086 4 жыл бұрын
I've lost count of my rereads lol. Sometimes I just start the audiobook in the car and let it play. Then I forget where I left off and start again. I now have a hard time finding books because Patrick rothfuss set the bar so high.
@Enn-
@Enn- 4 жыл бұрын
The problems that you state can be overcome in one "simple" step... add an extra book to the series. It has been my belief ever since I finished the second book that there's more left to be said than what can be covered in one (normal sized) book. The fact that he's taking his time in writing could mean that he's realized this, and will deliver all we've dreamed of.
@brenofrate1309
@brenofrate1309 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Denna is a perfect fucking character. He gives very little about it in the book, but it's clear she had a hard life and she uses her beauty as a both a shield and a mask. She doesn't trust anyone, even Kvothe she is still trying.
@stephenorengo4843
@stephenorengo4843 4 жыл бұрын
Im working my way through lord of the rings because almost all authors you have interviewed site it as influence. Thank you for influencing my reading.
@shaedcloak5803
@shaedcloak5803 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how 5:42 is the case here. It might be that I'm missing something, but as I understant it Felurian didn't let Kvothe go because he was good at sex. She let him go because he tricked her by telling her that because he was a virgin, he didn't having any past experiences to compare her skills to and that he needs to get together with mortal women in order to fully appreciate her prowess. And he wasn't cursed, Flurian just made him promise that he would come back.
@loganmcmillan8518
@loganmcmillan8518 4 жыл бұрын
Shaed cloak yeah that’s basically how it went down
@DefinitelyNotYiggi
@DefinitelyNotYiggi 4 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on The Slow Regard of Silent Things? It follows Auri (speaking of potentially unreliable narrators - or maybe she’s the most reliable narrator) and might give a little more insight into Rothfuss’ authorial perspective on women. It’s also a rather unusually written story, and I really enjoyed it.
@cappuccinocrafts2412
@cappuccinocrafts2412 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, Daniel. I agree so much. Patrick's writing style and his world-building is amazing. However, I could not make it through the second book (think I got close to half-way) because I really started to feel like so much was happening but at the same time nothing was progressing. I also agree with you that there is little chance at any kind of satisfying ending with a reasonable amount of questions answered and plot threads woven in. I also feel like the bleakness is a little unrelenting for me. That is just a personal preference.
@nuanceblacksywin4868
@nuanceblacksywin4868 4 жыл бұрын
For the audio book listeners: The narrator of this one is FLAWLESS. (or as close as I've ever heard.)
@trashai
@trashai 4 жыл бұрын
Truly satisfying
@mandoe5
@mandoe5 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. As an audiobook listener I get into a book more when the narrator catches my attention and is able to defune each character through his narration.
@Xibito22
@Xibito22 4 жыл бұрын
There are two versions. Are you talking about the British or American narrator?
@nuanceblacksywin4868
@nuanceblacksywin4868 4 жыл бұрын
@@Xibito22 As a Norwegian I have to ask: What the hell is wrong with you guys? Why do you record Audio Books in both English and American? You did the same with Harry Potter. Is this normal? And for that matter, why don't you also record it in all the various local accents and dialects? Anyways, I'm listening to Nick Podehl's narration, and I'm very impressed. Wait... Are the text versions released in both English and American as well?
@MiMiLaXMiMi
@MiMiLaXMiMi 3 жыл бұрын
@@nuanceblacksywin4868 well... yeah. British and American spelling differ (colour vs color) and the British use ‘ ‘ for dialogue instead of “ “ as we do in North America. That and the way the publishing industry is set up means different distributors/licence holders depending on location sold.
@aniketsanyal5586
@aniketsanyal5586 4 жыл бұрын
Lot of respect for analysis/opinions like these. And respect admiration for your channel and content in general! I’ve learned more about this genre thanks to your work man, thank you
@crimsonraen
@crimsonraen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Daniel! I freakin' looove it, and highly look forward to next book(s). ^_^
@AlexandreGomes-fc2qw
@AlexandreGomes-fc2qw 3 жыл бұрын
Let's just say something... The second book is worth reading just to read the dialoges with Elodin. They are just EXELENT
@rajikkali2381
@rajikkali2381 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you understood the Felurian section. She didn't let him go because he was good at sex. She let him go because he was going to spread a song about her, thus sending her new victims and reinvigorating her legend. I also enjoyed books one and two equally. Kvothe's time in Ademre and the sword tree related scenes in book two were incredible.
@simont3884
@simont3884 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Rothfus, like so many greats, is just like Shaq O'Neal. Shaq couldn't hit free throws. He couldn't shoot at all really. He wasn't really well-rounded in any way. But his greatness at what he did well was so overpoweringly dominant that you could not and cannot doubt that he's one of the best basketball players that has ever lived. There are lots of other basketball players and authors that are consistently pretty good at everything. And they're not noteworthy. Your favourite author Robert Jordan is another example. Flaws galore running through the entire series. Pacing flaws, characterisation flaws, and sloppy stereotypes left right and centre. But his legacy will resonate with fantasy lovers for generations because he was truly exceptional at what he did well. He created epic moments and epic characters in a truly staggeringly rich world. We love him for it.
@CurieBohr
@CurieBohr 7 ай бұрын
The name of the wind may just be the best book in fantasy. I can’t name a single book that I like more.
@DanicaChristin
@DanicaChristin 4 жыл бұрын
I love the emotional journey of the Kingkiller chronicles. Let's just hope book 3 gets released before 2029
@dragonzonezone6573
@dragonzonezone6573 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there from 2049... im still waiting on book 3 and my grandkids are laying blankets on me while I rock in my grandfather chair. haha
@DanicaChristin
@DanicaChristin 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragonzonezone6573 one day someone is going to kidnap the guy and force him to finish the book ... wait ... that's a Stephen King plot
@AmyTalksAni
@AmyTalksAni 4 жыл бұрын
I have recently put this book down about halfway through because i was more bored than i have been in years with a work of fiction, then moved on to read The Way of Kings and i'm reading 100 pages every day. I'll still come back and finish The Name of the Wind at some point tho.
@ksenijajemensek6126
@ksenijajemensek6126 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the reasons why we should read the Kingkiller Chronicle ❤️
@holywaterbottle3175
@holywaterbottle3175 4 жыл бұрын
after the first book, I didn't understand why you were so hard on it. After the second, well let's just say I won't be reading the third unless it gets some incredible reviews. The second book just felt like a checklist, Kvoth has to be the greatest lover so he got kidnaped by a nympho demon. He has to be the greatest fighter so he got trained by some warrior cult that doesn't understand where babies come from. We must know how cool he is so he kills a dragon and a band of bandits, saves all the girls and seduces the rest. it has so much potential.
@ApathyParabellum
@ApathyParabellum 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the point of all this that none of the events took place in the way they were purported to be? My biggest issue with it all is that Kvothe was essentially raped by an alien and it's sort of not... A big deal?
@holywaterbottle3175
@holywaterbottle3175 4 жыл бұрын
@@ApathyParabellum havent you heard? Its not rape if they're hot.. (Sarcasm) My biggest problem is the "sex has nothing to do with babies" cult. Dumbest culture in all of fantasy.
@maxroy5246
@maxroy5246 4 жыл бұрын
The main criticism of these books is the Denna relationship and while it can be extremely frustrating sometimes to the reader, you also have to realize that you’re identifying with Kvothe’s frustration as well and that’s kind of the point
@simsalb
@simsalb 4 жыл бұрын
I read both books, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Certainly, the 'is he lieing / exaggerating'theme' in the narration is unique. I certainly wouldn't say it was a top 10 but worth a read and I'm interested to see how he resolves the Kvoth character in the final book. As to which, any inside info on when that book is due to arrive?
@keithwing3743
@keithwing3743 4 жыл бұрын
Your general disregard of KKC has been one of my biggest disagreement with your outlook on fantasy. I did handle it well and I am glad to brought up the good points of this series. I truly believe your review has dissuaded readers of an enjoyable book.
@keithwing3743
@keithwing3743 4 жыл бұрын
Those I were supposed to be you. :(
@chocolate11193
@chocolate11193 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people think that not a lot happens in WMF. The story is clearly about how Qvothe because the legend he's known as in the frame story. And how/why he killed a king. Qvothe manages to get himself into trouble quite quickly so I can't imagine you'd need a lot of time to tell the last part. So really what we're learning about his how he gained the skills/connections to reach that final point. And in WMF he gains connections in the Maer's court. We learn that he's likely Meluans Nephew (theory). He makes connections to the fey realm, learns how to return there AND how fey creatures pass into this realm. He learns the Name Of the Wind and gets closer to Cinder. And he learns how to fight in Adem and learns more about the Chandrian. I think that's quite a lot to happen in one book. I'm not sure what more people where expecting out of it. Middle books rarely hold more answers than questions.
@evilemuempire9550
@evilemuempire9550 5 ай бұрын
Notably, and I think this is more what people mean, like 90% of that happens in the last 1/3 or so of the book.
@paulbryden4006
@paulbryden4006 2 жыл бұрын
Just started name of the wind. Hope I enjoy,cheers again for the recommendation
@yikesmcg1371
@yikesmcg1371 4 жыл бұрын
This is great Dan, you are really growing as a reviewer and critic. Been here since 10k subs and it’s awesome to see, keep it up. I love readers that can purely recognize that they don’t love a series but still recommend it because they acknowledge certain aspects appeal to different ppl. In this case, I also am not a superfan of KKC but his prose is INSANELY well done.
@jameshetherington1
@jameshetherington1 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the writing style is phenomenal, I read it a decade ago and it's taken me a long time to accept it's flawed. But I still love it, and that's ok
@agiftofflame
@agiftofflame 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of accurate synopsis of the character of kvothe "not nice" and "a tool" is for one, very funny and for another very much true
@jackinthebox1993
@jackinthebox1993 4 жыл бұрын
I seriously thought this would be a "Why You SHOULDN'T Read" entry. Lol!
@saki1333
@saki1333 4 жыл бұрын
*Surprised Pikachu Face* This book got me into reading again ;)
@sofiamejiasesperanza2912
@sofiamejiasesperanza2912 4 жыл бұрын
Same here! I hadn't read a book with such enthusiasm since I was a teen, these books were so compelling and I couldn't bring myself to put them down, I giggled, weeped and frowned, it was such an amazing experience and I am now hungry for more reading!!
@anthonybushell1679
@anthonybushell1679 4 жыл бұрын
Don't disagree with any point you made but for accuracy just thought I should correct the "sex demon" part of the book. Yes it's cringey, but if you can't see past that you miss what's really happening (usually takes a reread or 2). He isn't ridiculously good at sex first time, she brings out extreme lust in any man she meets by way of her magic (her being a sex demon and all). Every man she's been with has been the same as Kvothe first time, it literally kills them in the end. If Kvothe's first time had been with a normal woman it would have been awkward and embarassing. Kvothe only survives because he's a namer and is trained to resist her suggestions and magic effect on him (her prey has exclusively been farmers/mercenaries up to this point). The book spends a long time going over her teaching him how to actually be good at sex, with literal multiple lessons a day every day for about a year (estimated) in the fae realm. She only lets him go because he tricks her by writing a song about her but is unable to finish it since he can't compare sex with her to anyone else, so she lets him go to experience more then makes him promise to come back to finish the song for her. That's it. It's honestly not as cringey and "omg look I'm a sex god" as it first seems. Patt took a lot of time and care to make it plausable but no one can look past how cringey it is on first read.
@quattroCrazy
@quattroCrazy 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony B TBH every time I see people complain about the Felurian part, it’s clear that they didn’t even read it (I have been shocked by how many book “critics” apparently lack basic reading comprehension). Maybe it’s good ol’ American Puritanical sensibilities that make people immediately react like a 12 year old to anything sex-related. There are important lore details in that section, but it seems like a huge portion of the audience will never see it because they couldn’t handle a non-graphic sex scene like an adult.
@neriumsuitedher
@neriumsuitedher 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the most riduculous part of TWMF was that a society with no concept of fatherhood had no inbreeding issues. Everyone seems to focus on Felurian and I'm here, alone, shaking my head at Ademre.
@Nasser851000
@Nasser851000 4 жыл бұрын
I did kinda see this video coming because daniel needed to make clear his feelings about patrick rothfuss XD
@kriegermarsh183
@kriegermarsh183 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame
@safinan8008
@safinan8008 4 жыл бұрын
I like watching ur videos. Always be honest with ur reviews. Because that’s why I luv watching ur channel. Happy reading to u!!
@domdrak
@domdrak 2 жыл бұрын
"Thats... such a punishment... Oh man!" I lost my shit
@trevorx7872
@trevorx7872 3 жыл бұрын
2:53 I once saw someone on reddit saying "Rothfuss doesn't have a poetic bone in his body."
@crgaming8102
@crgaming8102 4 жыл бұрын
If Kingkiller was a Manga, Patricks writing style would ve the artstyle of Vagabond by Takehike Inoue.
@bobbluered8984
@bobbluered8984 3 жыл бұрын
I've always seen Kvothe as a classical greek tragic hero- he's incredibly competent in many areas, but his flaws (really, one flaw, which all others sprout from- his pride) are what lead to his eventual fall from grace.
@Aluminatihusker
@Aluminatihusker 4 жыл бұрын
Very modest review! I appreciate your humbleness in this video Daniel! Piece!
@gardenhead92
@gardenhead92 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Auri is one of the most interesting and well written female characters in fantasy.
@OnePieceOfEt
@OnePieceOfEt 4 жыл бұрын
She's sooo precious
@nathanbaca5131
@nathanbaca5131 4 жыл бұрын
She’s my favorite character. I loved reading from her perspective in The Slow Regard or Silent Things. I want her whole story expanded on but at the same time I like how mysterious she is.
@johnsmith9218
@johnsmith9218 Жыл бұрын
I heard that the king killer chronicles was originally meant to be a prequel designed to open up the general universe which would mean the 3rd book would not wrap things up but leave alot of things open for later books. Which might be why he is having so much trouble finishing it. It would be hard to land a satisfactory ending especially since it is unlikely he will be able to finish many mire series in that universe.
@azurepulse1870
@azurepulse1870 4 жыл бұрын
First book pulls you in, second book raises a lot of serious questions the third book needs to account for. Totally agreed there. I also get the feeling that it's gonna need more than one book to finish.
@lorenzoc.b.9809
@lorenzoc.b.9809 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth reading even if the last book doesn't come out. But it must be read as an audiobook.
@_Greymal
@_Greymal 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree that the third book will need to be very concise and plot driven. We even discussed it with a friend and thought that either the book will be enormous, or it will be rushing from one plot point to the next. Still if Rothfuss manages to pull it off it will be amazing.
@yremogtnomnad
@yremogtnomnad 4 жыл бұрын
The Name of the Wind is my favorite book I have ever read! Huge, huge fan of Rothfuss' writing. I also thoroughly enjoyed Wise Man's Fear, but will keep an eye out for the issues you mentioned when I reread it.
@Hospitaller187
@Hospitaller187 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel, you should check out “A Land Fit For Heroes” by Richard K Morgan. Definitely a different sort of fantasy with some sci fi elements mixed in. A good deal of graphic sex and violence and from the guy who wrote altered carbon. Never got a lot of attention but it’s a bit like joe Abercrombie’s books imo since it’s grimdark.
@benstannard3574
@benstannard3574 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that his relationship with Denna is weird, but I think we’re meant to think that. Kvothe is not very good with those kinds of relationships and he’s very worried about messing it up. That, and the fact that Denna is so deliberately mysterious leads him to become a little obsessed with her in a way that leads to an unhealthy relationship. Because we don’t have the end of the story yet it’s difficult to make a conclusive judgement of this aspect of the story because it could go either way (disastrously or very successfully for Kvothe). Anyone feel similarly?
@quattroCrazy
@quattroCrazy 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Stannard yeah I think a lot of people tend to hate Denna and forget to see her as a person with her own motivations. When you view her in that light, rather than just the object of Kvothe’s longing, her actions make more sense. She’s a young woman, estranged from her family and struggling to make it on her own in the world as a courtesan. What can a too- young university student offer her, even if she does love him? Nothing but complications.
@balfizan
@balfizan 4 жыл бұрын
Rothfus and his depiction of women could very well be a part of this particular story, or it might not its difficult to tell. It is 'supposed' to be a tragedy after all. And I know a lot of young men who think of women in almost exactly the same way Kvothe does. My justification for hope in this is a conversation in the first book where Kvothe and Bast have a conversation about ho Bast had met Denna at one point and Bast paints a much more realistic view of her and her appearance. I get this feeling like a major part of the climax of this story involves Denna's death or betrayal of Kvothe. Because the story as I've read it reads like the story of young boys first infatuation from his own jaded future POV.
@balfizan
@balfizan 4 жыл бұрын
Oh and the one 'explanation' for the whole trip into Fae thing and why/how he survives actually has less to do with his (at that time) "great sex skills" and more to do with his innate ability at naming. Like that somehow in that first interaction where he calls out her 'name' inadvertently that he had already wrested some kind of control over her (which he then embellished into him being a sex god, which is also a thing teenage boys definitely do)
@Hadrian1616
@Hadrian1616 4 жыл бұрын
Upon retelling my life, you know I will be an unreliable narrator. You would too. We can't help it. That's being human.
@TaigaGaoo
@TaigaGaoo 4 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but in The Name of The Wind a couple of characters tell Kvothe something along the lines of "To tell a good story you need to make it more interesting than it would be at times. If you tell a story that is 100% truth, exactly the way it happened you'll bore the audience". I'm Paraphrasing obviously, don't remember the exact pages. But the book does insinuates heavily that the the story Kvothe is telling is not going to be 100% truth with 0 mistakes.
@Hadrian1616
@Hadrian1616 4 жыл бұрын
@@TaigaGaoo ....yes, I remember that part. Did Kote say it to Chronicler or did Kvothe say it to Simmon?
@sharicola8870
@sharicola8870 4 жыл бұрын
100%. I feel Rothfuss chose to do it this way for a very specific purpose. Just can't wait to find out what that purpose is lol
@garrettmastantuono8043
@garrettmastantuono8043 4 жыл бұрын
Nani! Great video as always Sir. Thanks for another look at one of my favs.
@vgsuckfest1508
@vgsuckfest1508 4 жыл бұрын
Now I'm waiting for WYSR: Sword of Truth ;)
@danielleoliver1734
@danielleoliver1734 4 жыл бұрын
I’m definitely not a fan of Denna, but I’m currently half way through The Republic of Thieves which I’m loving, and Sabitha is strongly reminding me of her (there is still half a book to redeem her but so far not a fan)
@charllandsberg
@charllandsberg 4 жыл бұрын
Heya. I quite enjoyed the first book. Not my favourite, but I enjoyed it. But, do you think Kvothe is a reliable narrator? I feel like it's half the reason why so many people's critiques of the book fall flat. "Yea, but Kvothe is always so perfect." No, the Kvothe we actually see is very flawed, deeply traumatised. The Kvothe we hear about seems alike a romantic retelling, perhaps through Kvothe's own rose-tinted memory. If this is the case, naturally I can only guess (and I'm only 1m into your video so far so you might still talk about this), but if this is the case that makes Rothfuss an amazing writer.
@charllandsberg
@charllandsberg 4 жыл бұрын
Five minutes into your video, yup, nevermind, you cover it :P
@quattroCrazy
@quattroCrazy 4 жыл бұрын
Charl Landsberg if there’s anything useful about people calling Kvothe a “Gary Stu”, it’s that it tells you there’s no need to listen to their opinion since they either: 1) have no idea what the term means, or 2) have terrible reading comprehension since they apparently missed everything that happens to Kvothe besides the fact that he’s smart.
@nimito_burrito
@nimito_burrito 2 жыл бұрын
Daniel I've just noticed that you haven't really said anything about the magic system. what do you think about sympathy?
@catgirl2468
@catgirl2468 4 жыл бұрын
The first book was well-written, I'll give it that. I still came out of my read certain that Patrick Rothfuss not only couldn't female characters, but was aiming for an audience of people who didn't like fantasy. Unfortunately, I love fantasy. So yeah, this one didn't hit me.
@stanleyknife845
@stanleyknife845 2 жыл бұрын
Dam I absolutely loved the first book I read it twice back to back I`ve never ever done that before. Its Cleary a case of him telling a story in the way he wants it to be told if the truth has been fleshed out a bit that`s kind of the point isn`t it as he recall's his life the version he want to be known. Very clever book 10/10.
@ibg_music7525
@ibg_music7525 4 жыл бұрын
I read both of the kingkiller chronicle books this year, and then I got into Brandon Sanderson, and a little bit of brent weeks. All of that this year, now I'm on the wheel that is The Wheel Of Time.
@ThisIsMyYoutubeUsername
@ThisIsMyYoutubeUsername 4 жыл бұрын
Probably going to get slammed over this comment but it is just food for thought. I mean, yes teen boys ARE full of hormones and therefore objectify women, but teen boys don't HAVE to be that way... they could control the way they interpret and act upon those hormones and if we didn't reinforce "it is okay to regard women like X because you're just a young boy ha ha" we would see less of that problematic behavior IRL and in media down the road. Young women IRL suffer from the dismissal of problematic behavior of young boys, I know I did and so did many other young women. And as a female fantasy fan, if I read Kingkiller as a yonger and more impressionable girl I might have internalized this boys-wet-dream of a story instead of seeing and rejecting the problems in it. We can enjoy a story despite these issues without excusing them if that makes sense? I generally enjoyed Kingkiller!
@buchdrache1409
@buchdrache1409 4 жыл бұрын
That's a really valid point. I personally was absolutely unable to enjoy the book due to this and many other reasons, but I agree... Just like "boys will be boys" has been retired, the sentiments behind that phrase need to be retired now too.
@KitchenSinkSoup
@KitchenSinkSoup 4 жыл бұрын
@Trent What a great guy
@KitchenSinkSoup
@KitchenSinkSoup 4 жыл бұрын
From my experience of being a teenage boy, that is quite hard to do.
@waltgrisly509
@waltgrisly509 4 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful time we live in. Fantasy literature gets criticism over sjw bullshit. Seriously, he doesnt even look at her when she is drunk, behaves like a gentleman and still you hate the fuck out of him. Some people...
@ThisIsMyYoutubeUsername
@ThisIsMyYoutubeUsername 4 жыл бұрын
@@waltgrisly509 learn to read. I said "I generally enjoyed kingiller!" Don't put words in my mouth about "hating" anyone.
@G-CR-20
@G-CR-20 2 жыл бұрын
Because of this criticism (and others) I no longer wanted to continue reading Kingkiller Chronicles. I read the first book and had mixed feelings. Rothfuss's style is incredible (I loved the triple silence prologue) and I think Kvothe (ignoring many of the conveniences that surround him and his tendency to be ... amazing in many things) is a really charismatic protagonist with excellent moments; plus the first book has really funny moments. I had a theory that the second book would be all epicity. When Bast talks to Chronicler about the importance of Kvothe telling his story (noting the change he seems to be having in doing so) I thought that's what the trilogy would be about: About a man who finds himself again by telling his past . The tone of each book would change depending on Kvothe's self-perception (analyzed in greater depth, we could even see how the way in which he tells certain things reflects feelings related to them and we are told much more about the protagonist). That is why the first book would have so many funny and idealized moments (Denna being a clear example of this): Because it tells the most distant part and, perhaps, in which Kvothe was happiest (or perhaps it is only what he can see not having fully healed from his past hurts). And the interludes would serve as a counterpoint to show us how Kvothe is assimilating his introspection (and perhaps showing us that he is not objective). In the second book he perhaps he would regain his confidence in himself (or at least the desire to see himself as someone trustworthy / admirable) and hence he would narrate ever greater feats. But ... Considering that "The Fear of a Wise Man" is slower and has a somewhat anticlimactic ending, I feel like I don't want to read more.
@bassguitar1919
@bassguitar1919 3 жыл бұрын
Planning to dive into this once the third/final book comes out. I just can't do it until then though lol. He does sound optimistic that it will be in the near future though per recent FAQ's. Great review and perspective as always!
@nimito_burrito
@nimito_burrito 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't the whole point of the Frame Story to show that Kvothe doesn't have a happy ending? he says that his story is a tragedy, and he is only around 25. The chronicle is about his fall from who he was to who he is now. Although this would mean that the 3rd book has to go over the actual king killing, him wrestling an angel and a demon, him leaving the University, showing his journey from 17 to 25, meeting Bast, resolving his issues with Denna and the Chandrian, lose his music and his magic, become Kote, and resolve the Frame Story. Sigh. We are never getting the Doors of Stone, are we?
@TimRG
@TimRG 4 жыл бұрын
There have been a few small nuggets from Rothfuss that the Kingkiller Chronicles is only the first arc in a larger story. I'm not sure if this is true, but there have been little things from interviews from him. It's not easy to find as to why would he talk about what is next when he hasn't finished book 3. It will be interesting if this is only part of a larger story.
@sambrockelsby522
@sambrockelsby522 4 жыл бұрын
Your criticisms of the KC are totally valid, and I think that many people who love these books share them to some extent. Every book/series has it's pros and cons, and whether you think these particular books are 'good' or not really comes down to what you value in a series, and what kinds of flaws you are prepared to overlook. I personally really like the 'unreliable narrator' aspect of the KC. I feel like it helps me engage with the story more since I'm forced to be skeptical of everything Kvothe tell us, as opposed to just accepting it as truth. It's cool being able to have my own unique interpretation of the story, and to then compare it with the interpretation of other readers. Like you I'm a bit worried that we won't get a satisfying ending but I have faith in Patrick Rothfuss to pull it off :D
@jamieprice6076
@jamieprice6076 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like when I read these books it didn’t feel like he’s lying but he could be saying what he believes which may be wrong either that or as he’s grown up as a story teller himself he may well set things out the way he does because of what will happen in the future of the story
@shosty575
@shosty575 4 жыл бұрын
You convinced me to pick it up! Thanks Daniel!
@GamerDad29
@GamerDad29 Жыл бұрын
Just finished the books so far - great read - really great read, I love the cadence of the story and how everything has come together. My only gripe is the main characters relationship with Denna. It borders on 'neckbeard' status and the way the author writes the main character reminds me of the 'm'lady' dude in a fedora - it quite cringey at times :(
@jdoe7252
@jdoe7252 3 жыл бұрын
So I dunno where I saw it but I heard somewhere that this trilogy is supposed to be setup for a much larger thing so, I think you're right to say that the ending might not be the ending everyone wants. I get the feeling that it's just gonna wrap up a lot but leave most everything somewhere nearby on the floor to pick up and properly wrap later and I think a lot of people are gonna hate that
@asusla
@asusla 4 жыл бұрын
I personally enjoyed the second book even more. Although his time with Felurian gave me a bit of anxiety and I didn't enjoy it so much. I also have doubts that everything can be wrapped up in one more book given that his story when he's the innkeeper doesn't seem to be the end for him. But I would recommend everyone read both, I feel it keeps getting better.
@zanderr5750
@zanderr5750 4 жыл бұрын
King killer is the only reason I found this channel lmao do more
@HugoGlz56
@HugoGlz56 Жыл бұрын
I wish I saw a KZfaq video of the cliffnotes rather than the full audiobook.
@Nikotheos
@Nikotheos 2 жыл бұрын
I think this series may (in time) win a unique award for Longest Time Ever Taken to Write a Prelude Trilogy, because I 100% think that King Killer Chronicles is a prelude trilogy to the story Rothfuss actually plans to write.
@TheDjMoo
@TheDjMoo 4 жыл бұрын
So I completely agree with the praise and criticism you've given here. I like to read books with the mindset of "This author knows what they're doing and this is what they want to communicate" and find that I enjoy books far more that way. That being said, I absolutely love this series. Rothfuss makes it so easy to read with this assumption because of how he meticulously crafts every sentence. There is always another secret. Always another nugget of information, a hint, a clue. Hell I think I have about 30% of the books highlighted on my kindle with hundreds of notes made. I set aside my feelings on those things that are slightly jarring, i.e. sex demon etc. in favor of the assumption that this is something intended by Pat, because I don't think it's just an assumption. As for the unreliable narrator theory, I'm torn. I've read both books around 50 times each and go back and forth on this. It's very possible that he is an unreliable narrator (examples: Bast mentioning that all the women in his story are beautiful, that Denna had a slightly crooked nose, etc.) and that he is telling the complete truth (seems like Kvothe gets truly angry when it was suggested that he was lying or exaggerating things to make himself look better as this telling is supposed to be, as he puts the, the true story with all the embarrassing details intact) and I can't really say for sure which side I'll take at any given time. But what thats done for me is given me a new perspective the read the books from. During one reread I'll go in with the assumptions that everything is truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, in another read I'll assume that he is exxagerating or lying about many things, and every level in between. Tldr: The books are excellent. I believe that everything is masterfully crafted by Rothfuss to elicit the plethora of reactions we have, good and bad, for a purpose. I will withhold further judgement until Doors of Stone is (finally) released and I can see how everything is wrapped up.
@briancohen-doherty4392
@briancohen-doherty4392 4 жыл бұрын
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@oblivious1316
@oblivious1316 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that it's going to be a nightmare to neatly and concisely wrap up this story in a third book. I'd much rather he just extend the series to however many books he might need and get it done. The last couple books of wheel of time were just a marathon on loose ends being tied up and that series was supposed to be shorter as well.
@alynam82
@alynam82 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan, but also skeptical of the upcoming 3rd book. In wondering if things would have been different if Rothfuss didn't limit himself to three books for a trilogy, but instead let go beyond four, five, six books in order to tell the full story and remain consistent. My theory is that we'd already have a book three out and possibly more if that was the case. I think Rothfuss is finding difficult to end everything with just one last book, thus the decade long delay... I could be wrong, but that's my take on it
@RyanHawley76
@RyanHawley76 4 жыл бұрын
I agree on the second book.. i loved about 1/3d of it. Though, I've written off the series but will be happy if another book ever comes out.
@Dawnleapord
@Dawnleapord 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely agree with a lot of points here, especially that the ending will be controversial - I have no doubt it'll be well done, but I think at this point there are so many fan theories etc. that no matter, people will end up disappointed that a certain theory wasn't touched on, resolved, etc. On an another note, I feel like Kvothe and Denna's relationship isn't supposed to portrayed as any type of healthy relationship and I think we're gonna see some of the play out in the next book (hopefully!)
@jesswiseman2086
@jesswiseman2086 4 жыл бұрын
If you love unfinished stories, being able to hold a favorite character in your imagination endlessly, any final tragedy or resolution held in permanent abeyance, you should read these books. Without spoilers, the last page of Wise Man's Fear makes the barest hint at Kvothe's arc bending back toward progress (as opposed to stagnation) and action (as opposed to stasis). One may conceive of that tiny upward inflection as the end of a ski jump, from which your imagination can take flight. If you have old-fashioned notions of narrative, in which the protagonist "should" come to some definite character change in the "drama" of the story, usually near the "end," then these books may not be for you. Not only has the author expressly denied any obligation or duty to produce the third book on any schedule whatsoever, he has also described the entire 3-volume work as a prologue. In light of both of these authorial choices, one must concede that Doors of Stone may never arrive, and if it does, it will likely be unsatisfying in terms of traditional narrative expectations. In summary, Wiseman's Fear is that I may die before the next book is published. I'm 46. (see what I did there?)
@CybernautGaming
@CybernautGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I think you miss some big points here. Number one being POV. Kingkiller is a much more personal, intimate story than much of epic fantasy. The tension, drama, and stakes all come from Kvothe’s day to day life and survival. The most impactful moments in the book deal with his opinions of love, suffering, and identity. There are no armies clashing, princes dueling, or even kings being killed. If you like and can see yourself in Kvothe, you will really enjoy the series. This ties into my second point: the criticism that “nothing happens” in the first and second book is something you need to emphasize more. Like I said, this series is NOT about an epic plot. I feel that the polarizing opinions regarding this book stem from the fact that many people go into the series expecting something that isn’t delivered, AKA a traditional plot. You should read KKC if you’re interested in seeing a story told this way. Third point: separate author and character POV. Kvothe is not an unreliable narrator, he is simply embellishing. An unreliable narrator is a device that, if used, is OBVIOUS to the reader. If Pat was going to make Kvothe an unreliable narrator, you would know without a doubt that he is one, otherwise it is very poor style. This is not what KKC is about. KKC is metafictional take on the nature of stories, the idea that all stories are the same, that there is a reason that things are the way they are and within every simple name or idea there is history and secrets informing it. I could say more, but I’m rambling at this point. I love the content Daniel, but I think you need to take more time to be specific in analyzing the books that you review. Maybe have two separate versions of a review, spoilers and no spoilers. I find that sometimes your analysis can be a bit shallow, which i understand is probably by choice. Anyways, I’m a big fan. Hope for the best!
@pobbityboppity1110
@pobbityboppity1110 11 ай бұрын
Or maybe Daniel isn’t shallow, and you’re just offering a different perspective. Oh wait I get it, you are Kvothe himself, the self righteous epic winner of this internet fight.
@ncthomas420
@ncthomas420 4 жыл бұрын
he was not so good at sex the demon let him go. HE TRICKED HER. he said i cant tell if ur the best at this bcs its my first time. i cant judge bcs i have nothing to compare it to. so she let him go bone other girls so he could come back and say she was the best. tbh i wouldnt even call her a demon. more like a nympho forest sprite HE WILL NEVER FINISH THIS SERIES. BE WARNED
@isaachoffmeister4188
@isaachoffmeister4188 4 жыл бұрын
naw fam it's more like a paraphrase of a paraphrase of a passage of the book
@ncthomas420
@ncthomas420 4 жыл бұрын
@@IbbyMelbourne yea its not a excerpt from the book. just me describing a chain of events in as few words as possible
@sharicola8870
@sharicola8870 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! He never once implies that Kvothe is the best at sex or even just really good. But the Fae chick(can't for the life of me remember her name) believes she is.
@FelineElaj
@FelineElaj 4 жыл бұрын
So many criticisms of these books I heard boil down to people misreading or simply forgetting something. Kingkiller Chronicles is not perfect, though.
@theserpent6070
@theserpent6070 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel are you feeling okay today?
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