freal I was getting pumped for Darwin to rock some shit when I first saw it, broke my heart ;-;

Word up

I was 9 when this movie came out and when u first saw it and when I saw Darwin die I was like "the unkillable guy dies ok get that part pisses me off but oh well. BUT WHYD THEY MAKE HIM BLACK! SHOULDA MADE HIM WHITE"

@@user-vc9cq4ri4f you have to keep in mind not everyone is obsessed with race.

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Yeah! The best Hero-Villain dynamic in any story is when the two parties start out as friends, but eventually come to blows as a result of differing perspectives on a particular issue. It isn't a conflict of clear cut Good vs. Evil, but of two people whose opposing arguments have merit. Complexity and tragedy.

What a unique perspective on the rarely explored relationship between Erik and Charles!

@@MrJordwalk like lex luthor and clark in smallville

Magneto is a far cry from a villain. He is the anti-hero. Calling Magneto a villain would be like calling Wolverine a villain. Neither are but their tragic backstories have shaped their views of the world, rightfully so. Professor X has been afforded his black and white moral line, because he has been very privileged. It is easy to judge the anti-hero harshly when you've not had to live in their world.

Well it's the heart and soul of the movie, if their friendship didn't work the whole movie would have fallen apart.

I've yet to see anyone comment on the historical relevance of this particular line. Yes it's an EXCELLENT line with an amazing delivery BUT IT ALSO is a line most Jewish people use when referring to the holocaust in general. So to have this survivor of the camps to say it, especially in response to the 'they were just following orders' line is an excellent choice on multiple levels.

It's not 'my whole life' but rather 'I have been at' - since he did get out of there alive. But indeed - one of the best lines in the film.

And it's pure comics. There's a reason why it is almost impossible to see Eric as a true villain. He may be the greatest anti-hero ever written, perpetually trying to save his people whether they want him to or not.

@@amireal2u The entire POINT of the line is its historic significance - I suspect people don't comment on that because it is exceedingly obvious? I don't think anyone thinks it's an excellent line without considering the context of Magneto's time spent as a holocaust survivor.

Yet…you do it daily

It was the same coin Shaw gave him after killing Erik's mother. So this was literally Erik's "payback" as he gave Shaw the same coin back again.

Bitburger. Das beste... That scene is my magneto favourite.

Hell yeah

Fuck Google You do you. I very much prefer Professor X, Magneto, Storm, and Jean Grey over Wolverine.

And that two-word Jackman cameo is sublime. I thought he was gonna be recruited! NOPE.

Liz Williams One of my favorite cameos. And it became a pivotal part of DoFP too. Charles remembered how Logan didn’t help him, when he needed him before.

This movie made Magneto so badass. So unbelievably badass. That Frankensteins Monster scene is one of the best scenes in comic book adaptation history.

@@sbraypaynt I can agree with all that except for Kevin Bacon. I thought he played a stellar bad guy. Otherwise, I completely agree that Fassbender and McAvoy carry the movie. Fortunately, they are in most scenes. I agree with you that all the kids are trash. Zoe Kravitz is okay I guess. Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique is a total fail. Unfortunately, DoFP decided to make her the key of the movie, thus giving that movie a fatal flaw it couldn't overcome, in my book.

Yeah but it doesn't look like Argentina at all. That sequence, as good as it is, is somewhat famous in Argentina because the city it takes place in, Villa Gesell, has cero mountains in it in real life. It's actually a beach destination. My guess is the people working on the movie thought Gesell sounded kind of German and since Josef Mengele was hiding in Bariloche and Bariloche has mountains, well let's put all of those things together. The one thing I do love about the sequence though is the music. The gave the Magneto theme a twist and musicalized the sequence with a Creole guitar version.

Mariano Mosquera Maybe it was just for tax purposes. Eastern Europe in particular doesn’t tax a lot for film crews so major studios tend to work out there if they need a semi-exotic location.

@@tatehildyard5332 That wouldn't make it make any more sense inside the story, really. There's no mountains in Villa Gesell, it's all beaches. So when the "Villa Gesell" title card comes up at the beginning of the sequence and you see the mountains it's kind of funny for us. It's not a big deal. It's just just a wtf moment.

​@Windigo JonesI'd never read something coming from someone so purposely trying to convey how willingly ignorant they are, the irony being extra delightful when you take into account North America is the world's biggest cocaine consumer. The internet and the TV-schooled kids that find its home in it never cease to amaze me.

Mariano Mosquera It’s probably because they were already filming in Switzerland and couldn’t afford to move the entire production to another continent just to film one short scene.

Sometimes the best answers are the most simple

Or she’s making you think she has a diamond mutation.

@@angelomendoza6666 She's not THAT powerful...

does that mean when you wear the helmet you can see her naked

@@caineblackknife2443 ummmm yes, yes she is...what are you talking about!?

Yes 100%

What a unique insight

2nd ones better

they look like biological brothers

ARC 1409 Both are fantastic.

TKinfinity he named 3

@@CountDogula7 Oh, i only read the top half. But First Class and DoFp are defimately my favourites

@@TKinfinity01 and too bad that Apocalypse was unable to complete the trilogy in a good way... and I have a feeling when I eventually watch Dark Phoenix it may (although unlikely) get shifted into my category of films I refuse to acknowledge the existence of.

@@TKinfinity01 Actually I edited the comment to include more movies, so you were right

Yeah... that was one of the few bits of bullshit in this movie. Still a cool movie but, can't deny that silly death hurt at the time and still kind of rankles

@@1090Ideas ,That's facts

@@1090Ideas or they wanted to show that anyone even characters who are meant to adapt can die, so they killed off Darwin, showing the power of Sebastian Shaw

@@x-menlol1613 sure, but then it's oddly coincidental that the character whose race they retconned to be Black was the one they intended on killing off.

@@dmv2ks true

He was wasted in this movie, he's pretty cool in the comics.

Darwin had my favourite power so him dying was sad but also showcased how powerful Sebastian was.

@@scalpingsnake he still shouldn't have died in the comics he would have spat that energy ball out

@@elonmusket5676 Films are different than comics

@@elonmusket5676 Yeah I heard how powerful he was. It would be cool if he came back because he adapted.

And Νazi hunting.

The problem is that Magneto *is* a Nazi, just as the men that he is hunting, except that his ubermenchen are “mutants” instead of Aryans. His only problem with Shaw was that he killed his mother, and shortly his “Mutants Only” attitude would have made her as disposable as Rebecca Romijn’s Raven in Last Stand after being hit with the mutant power-cancelling darts.

@@Egilhelmson @Egilhelmson Excuse me what? Ok, so let's go over all the problems with the claims you just made. Firstly, Magneto ain't a Nazi. Though he does attack the outside world based on his ideology, he always attacks officials of the government he is targeting. Who his nation is at war with. He attacks enemy mutants the same as humans as well, not taking steps to broad strokes exterminate humans. Second, and this is a big one, mutants ARE basically a different race than humans. And are without question upgraded, ergo superior to anyone paying attention. Him claiming mutants are the evolutionary step forward, in their world, actually bears a fair amount of proof and his world often puts a lot of effort into trying to either enslave or exterminate them. Attacks against those that target your species and nation can easily just be seen as war battles. Third , you remember that he lived in a CONCENTRATION CAMP?! Shaw killing his mom was the last straw, not his entire motivation. Him and his mom had been suffering through that mistreatment, and he suffered through Shaw's grooming after that while watching his friends and fellows die. There is a lot of reasons for Magneto to want to hunt Nazis, and I'd wager he would still be hunting them after he got Shaw if he didn't have a fledgling Mutant nation to deal with. Sincerely I'm not quite sure where your arguments are coming from co sidering all we know about this story, its characters and the universe. It's a seriously bad take.

That was Matthew Vaught's initial plan, but he got shafted in favour of Singer's DoFP.

I agree

Fassbender is a great actor. It's sad to think what his career might have been if his movie choices had panned out better. While I don't think it's tarnished his reputation that he's been in so many stinkers (the later X-men movies, the Alien-series and that awful Assassin's Creed movie), since he's always been seen as the best part of those movies, it can't have done him any favours either. To me, he's the best choice for the next Bond, but due to his career, I don't know if he'll get the chance.

x-men franchise was products of their time but also I feel that they don't get enough credit because the x-men movies are faithful to the source material of the ultimate which is a shit comic

Maybe I'm in the minority on this, I actually feel like Fassbender would kind of be too obvious of a choice. I mean, I've never been a big James Bond aficianado, though I have seen every Daniel Craig entry except Quantum Of Solace (come to think of it I wish I could not have seen Spectre). I feel like my memory is at the time of the last switch over, Craig was far from the first choice on many peoples' minds, but maybe I'm getting that totally wrong. But all in all I think he's done a terrific job, when he had something good to work with. Part of what made him intriguing is he wasn't a totally obvious fit. Then again, I also think that Simon Quarterman (Lee Sizemore on "Westworld") would make a really interesting pick for whenever they go onto a new Doctor on Doctor Who, I've been saying this for months and I've literally not had a single person say they agree with me lol

Hadn't really given much thought to a new Who since I have not enjoyed Chibnall's tenure and had not thought of Quarterman, but he is an interesting choice (sort of half Capadli, half Tennant). Thanks for giving me something to chew on.

I do really feel that no one has ever thought of an “old man Bond” storyline, it could be one hell of a banger with an older actor like, i don’t know... Jeremy Irons maybe? Just spitballing

DOFP all the way. Has wolverine.

If Logan is counted as a X-men movie, that is easily the best!

@Kim Yo Jong's Sandwich "Is that all the men you brought"?

To me DoFP is easily the best. Though first class was also an amazing movie.

days of the future past is confusing and X2 is...well, for its time it's nice but compared to first class not.

we'll see about that

I wouldn't mind if they did. The more great Xmen movies I get to watch the better!

If l'm to be honest, I don't want the x-men in the mcu they work better beeing on their own universe, they have enough material to work with to create their own shared universe that could have rivaled the mcu. The inhumans/NUhumans would have been a good replacement for the mutants in the mcu and would fit perfectly in the the mcu at this moment. They have an explanation to why superpowered humans(the NUhumans) suddently start popping across the globe and the explanation is "the terrigene mist". sadly fox fucked up with their continuity.

X-men in the mcu should be a disney+ tv serie, it fit them better

I will only watch if they keep McAvoy and Fassbender

Agreeeed

Same, agreed, yes it is, how the hell no

It’s a good movie but I only like it so much because of the first 2 (3 was ok at best to me)

Same thing here. Totally agree.

Agree!

This flick is dogshit if you're a real X-Men fan. Even the worst X-comic is better than this dumbed-down piece of shit.

@@Axolotl_Mischief It's not about the source material. Other material isn't relevant.

@@Axolotl_Mischief If reading those comics makes you so angry and rude, I'm glad I stopped before I became that "real X-men fan".

I was gonna ask, "Who are these chuds you're hanging out with who disagree that this is an amazing movie?!" but then I saw the basement-dweller that responded. This town needs an enema!

"I understood that reference"

Magneto: It also keeps YOU out of my head, Charles!

Honestly glad they didn't there is so many ways they could have fucked it up that leaving perfection be was probably the better choice

Honestly if we had a First Class sequel leading into DoFP to cap off a trilogy it would've been amazing

Charles Xu exactly!!! Would have been a great trilogy to really cement the proto X-men

@@Lsd1021 actually the director who made this movie Matthew Bond plan to have X-Men apocalypse be the second movie to expand on relationships between Magneto Professor X and Mystique and Beast but bring a new characters like Jean Grey Scott Summers angel Nightcrawler storm Jubilee and Havoc and the third movie would be X-Men Days future past but Fox was too impatient and wind the third movie as the second one instead

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 Vaughn* haha. And yeah im so gutted we didn't get that film which would've also included Tom Hardy as Wolverine. We were robbed by Fox

Truth. Compare the relative simplicity of Magneto turning a German luger on one of his oppressors in First Class to the later big scenes in later movies. The First Class scenes are far more meaningful and powerful. Even the later movies cash in on First Class, the scene of Magneto turning Auschwitz inside out in Apocalypse wouldn't have been impactful at all if it weren't for First Class.

@@MrMisanthrope84 The later movies do nothing but sustain on the good writings of First Class. Erik did nothing but betray Charles, and Charles was an idiot for letting Erik run loose. I wish the later films had done more to develop their friendship rather than just reminding us of it.

SSStevenWolf so you haven’t seen Days of Future Past? Because they definitely do some working together in that one

@@itsboyaknow i said "this" movie, which is continued right to the first x-men movie (2000). The only times eric and charles be working together again chronologically speaking is on x-2, at some point before days of future past, and then in the new timeline that was created, in which kitty and logan and time travel stuffs involved. Even eric mentioned this during near ending of days of future past, where he said they spent their whole life trying to destroy each other, wishing that those times could turn back. In which case, it could, made possible by the end of days of future past.

@@itsboyaknow also this movie has the same intro as 2000 x-men movie, implying that this is canon and happened in the same universe, with the same continuity

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Love it!!!!

Well you were right about the first two thirds of Wonder Woman

90% of the movie was perfect, too bad they dropped the ball with the third act

The yellow suits look stupid tho. The only times the X-uniforms were ever badass was in the Ultimate comics. I'm glad the movies never gave us that ridiculous Wolverine costume from the comics. He'd look even worse than Captain America's costume in the MCU.

@@vetarlittorf1807 Which one

@@vetarlittorf1807 I don't want MCU Wolverine to look emo I want him to have a modernized yellow suit

@@starwarsinfinitywargravity2779 He has never looked emo so I don't know what you mean. But he should not wear yellow at all. Not only doesn't it suit him, but real wolverines are not yellow. He should either wear black or tan.

@@vetarlittorf1807 black or tan? Sounds awful. Give us yellow

Agreed! As a kid I would've never guessed that Magneto pushing a coin through someone's head would be such an emotionally cathartic scene, better than any punch 'em up!

One problem. They really mess up Darwin

Yes! Had it as my ringtone for a while 😂 I always thought it was such a shame we never heard it again

It gives me chills in the bar scene every time

@@mikekatchowski Same

@@mikekatchowski And if you're paying attention to the music, you can tell the instant Erik decides to kill everyone in the bar.

Honestly, the dichotomy between the hopeful First Class theme (it reminds me of Pacific Rim's theme) with Magneto's more boiling cynical rage driven theme make for a fun listen. Jackman's themes are among the best of the Fox series and it's unfortunate he only had one go at them.

I graduated highschool in 13 and for some reason my brain still think it was only a couple years ago

It came out in 2011

@@EZ-IZZY1995 it still kinda is a couple of years ago

Marvin Gonzalez almost a decade tho

@@EZ-IZZY1995 Ikr. I feel like 6 years ago was just a few months.

Hardly find any KZfaq videos analyzing just how great this movie is, incredibly paced, imaginative use of mutant powers, clear motivation and development and the whole movie is just so stylish. Oh and Erik is a badass, how come no one talks about it?

Maggie and Xavi, I love it 😂😂

That's because Bryan Singer is a shitty director who can't make a movie without it being boring as shit.

Also, he tried to throw a while lot of shit into one film. He tried to use his old toys and ruined what was set up in First Class. Plus Lawrenece was shit as Mystique...

I liked it for what it was

Wolverine could have stayed in the future

I love the intro to X2, but the first trilogy doesn't hold up at all. Likewise, while The Wolverine did make amends bridge the gap, it still has its issues.

@@GeneralBulldog54 nah X-Men & X2 still hold up

No Logan is easily the best.

@@goldenstatewarriors9418 It’s a great spinoff, yes. But it’s not the best *X-Men* film.

@@marvingonzalez8586 agreed, even dofp

Nah

I just remeber rolling my eyes at how fucking retarded the writting was. Jaw-droppingly stupid plot, for an X-Men story.

Jaden LaFrance wolverine? It’s alright not Logan but ehh!?

I like JLaw's Mystique. She brings more complexity to the role than Romijn did. My only problem is that JLaw's Mystique is just cute rather than sexy.

Vetarlit Torf If Mystique gets to be in the MCU, what would she look like?

@@BlazerK1914 Probably similar to the X-Men movies.

@@vetarlittorf1807 agreed that's one of the reasons I prefer Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique

JLaw hated the Mystique makeup tho and it lost something with her just looking normal

I'm being pretentious here, but I'd say First Class is the best X-Men movie, even If Logan is the better film, same way I'd consider Mask of the Phantasm the best Batman movie, but The Dark Knight a much better film. In terms of capturing the world and characters of X-Men and translating it to the screen in to an entertaining blockbuster with plenty of heart and thrills First Class does it better than anyone else. Logan, to me at least, never felt like an adaption of X-Men outside of using Wolverine and Professor X, it reminded me more of an old Western or even The Last of Us, but that doesn't change the fact that it's perfectly acted, wonderfully written, perfectly structured, and surprisingly heartfelt bit of cinema.

Logan had a very nice first half, but the second is just a boring mess. First Class is complete and coherent as a whole.

Logan isn't really an x men movie. It's a movie with an x -man in it, but everything else is so its own thing in the franchise.

As good as Logan is, it's not the best in the XCU because it's a very specific kind of movie and doesn't have the same epicness as the others

Hello There

It was.

Haha, ew no, but seriously... JOKER

@@benvoliothefirst JOKER isn't really a prequel, it's its own thing

@@benvoliothefirst Sorry to tell you but joker isn't a prequel.

Same here, but I'd change the order. 3. Days of Future Past 2. First Class 1. Logan The others I can take or leave.

@@GeneralBulldog54 I just put them there, they weren't meant to be in that order. It would be 1.Logan ,2. DoFP and 3.FC

logan is way lower than it should be

and spider verse

You have two #9's

Julian Knudson - Whoops. Fuck it, maybe it’s a tie.

Logan is better than every single film you put on this list.

It was more modern missiles being put into Turkey that did it. Soviet govnt thought "well they have had nukes on our doorstep for a decade now, and what do we have on theirs? Nothing? What about that new upstart Castro in Cuba?"

Thank you for helping dispel american propaganda.