i hate 1.9 but i think the game could not get to where it was today without combat evolving.

1.9 pvp is super

The sub titles were nice, neat and undistracting but I also liked the old ones

Femboy

I actually loved the combat change, watching friends coming from Bedrock taking months to get the hand of it is hilarious. I also find the Elytra as of today to be much too useful.

What if blocking with shields reduces damage, and instead with swords we get parrying, meaning that if we time an "sword-block" we can negate the damage taken (On a cooldown of course)

I just want the feature back the way it was. 50% seems like a good shield alternative anyway

nah not 50% damage block should be blocks the damage completely but you still take the knockback

This unfortunately wouldn't work, as any right click action in the main hand is prioritized over another action in the offhand. In other words if sword blocking was added, it would be impossible to use a shield while holding a sword.

@@witoldhodys4453 just make holding a shield remove the block ability of the sword

The mace would've been a perfect candidate!

Huh, this makes sense. Seeing how op axes are, they could work like that actually

and if the two-handed got cool-downs and one-handed doesn't. personally, i'd be very happy

Wait wtf I didn't even know that

Wtf have I been doing then

It doesn't. It's a quadratic scaling

@@dhans9662 he's not correct.

The thing is the PvE is better in 1.9. But the whole PvP community essentially got ruined since the 1.9 PvP is worse that bad.

I will urinate in your fridge

wait you're right lol, didn't even notice that

i'am always in middle ground, due the way they treat us... Making iron farms bad, making resources exclusive to location, they are monsters!

​@Vinícius Schadeck so do you want the game to be hard, or easy. You're one of the people who complains that the game is too easy then complians when resources are too hard to get

@@legoliam596 the game is really easy, this is not the point... you not are getting it hard making geodes exclusive and unmoveable, it make just frustrating... The combate of minecraft is a joke, i not understand who fear anything really on minecraft you can carry a bunch of blocks and make a shell really easy, the fun parte is build funny and cool stuff, both are sadly getting worst and worst due to mojang pratices... i have to grind hours into itens for a small build. this is bad, no one really feel difficult in making a complete equipment nowadays, is just slave villages make trades done diamond full echanted gear, go to nether mine as a stupid mindless person get a bunch of netherid and you are max out... but if you want to make really complex structures to be cool on survival, well it take more time than i want just to harvest stuff down, and build is a lego act of putting down pieces, not hard. The time exploring further to new biomes in each update is the most trash part... I want the new features, new biomes are cool but please fix portals or something, no one use nether hub anymore elytra is soo much efficient that the time used to pass through portals is worthless elytra is really a easier and you can get one about 20 minutes of game or soo... spawn, found village or even just mine 4 iron pieces burn into ingot, one bucked and fling steel ready to go nether stone sword to kill blaze, you need few, go to fortress and the end just flee the dragon or kill it, get elytra tchanam... not exactly hard again and make any other transport way a pure trash... Now i'am playing on survival mode without F3 no coordinates, the game is a little more fun, i have to use compass or maps to better understand some envierment stuff, i did slime farm only counting blocks and digging a giant hole into ground, put barriers and make iron golems in each section to check where slimes will spawn i made it on a 5x5 chunks, ohhh how i know my chunk boards? maps! maps are aligned with chunk boards 16 blocks each chunk 128 blocks the map, make the math! has a offset that is mostly unnoticibla, but is there i guess one block for each side you still arrow on it, after the extra block you are out the map, soo... the time your become a ball on the map, you are looking for a extra block do it with 2 different maps to check, take a while but when i realize was a blast! after knowing the chuncks boards i just count block to make my slime farm properly... did honey and want to make mob trap all without any F3 help... but the game is kinda boring because of elytra getting it into the exploration to much, i prefer sit on my base watch farms works make new ones and stuff like that, was funny to play with villager trades before, but now i need to find especifics echanted books on trasures, i not like it... why i will put a huge effort into a massive and cool trade hall system if i can't afford all books from there anymore? also if i loose all my especial located shit? i can't found new ones? this is the most shittie approuch i ever found... they need combate improvement and mobs that drop itens, not chest with the item inside... I want a sand golem monster as well, glitchers has infinity sand, i not like use it, how hard is to make a entire stuff without it? also TNT use sand and gravel, both is almost impossile to farm properly, sure you can with gravel, but sand is not When you make a game like minecraft, you need think of limitations and if they are almost all stuff inifnity somehow, why make simpler stuff as sand that finity? deserts even has not that much sand i know because i deepleted a lot of deserts in the pass

@@viniciusschadeck4992 So you’re literally complaining that the devs make you explore places so you can get the things you want? The OG commenter is right, this community will never be satisfied.

@@thebushbros6626 sure, never will be. Some people even want that trash spamming clicker combat from 1.8... i hate 1.9 update, but the combat change was really good. My main point of problem in the game is, you not can move biomes arround, change spawn points of most stuff, also you get finity resources arround your spawn of any type... if you break all dungeon spawners they are for good done, as well others structures, but you need to make farm of some of those stuff, soo you need to make a bunch of random places that are always sit there, and build arround it just to farm afk, or activily do a shit stuff to farm as well... they could at least make monsters spawn based on block tipe and make us build up more complex structures to get resources, but always is just annyoung to find and build arround almost the same trap over and over in different locations

Just like me for real, lol.

I returned after several years (mostly consisting of me becoming increasingly obsessed with Monster Hunter, which I am taking a break from for now) and all those things were true for me, aside from the ocelot/housecat thing Mining iron and getting raw iron instead of the ore was perplexing at first but then I later learned that Fortune works on iron/gold (and copper, but who cares about copper) and I immediately welcomed the change with open arms The addition of the deep underground, deepslate and the massive caves in between helped to revitalise my love fir minecraft as well Also swimming… swimming is amazing, especially with Depth Strider! The villager situation was strange too, but when I thought about it; it made more sense, i.e. the ability to clear and then reassign a villager to a new trade assuming you’ve never traded with them yet, it removes the need to cull unwanted villagers and thus is more ethical! The new tree types, especially the Mangrove trees, are awesome too! You can never have enough trees and the Mangrove tree is literally the Oak swamp tree but better in every possible way!

Did they take out the cat mechanic?

@@PiotrBarcz Rather than taming ocelots in the jungle to get cats, cats are now a separate mob that spawn in villages. Ocelots still spawn, they just don't serve a purpose.

@@andtyldai Damn that's just pathetic, cats always spawned in villages but it would be cool if you could make more :(

Oh so that’s why they took forever to release 1.9 makes sense also let’s not forget minecraft was dying hard around this time lol

No dude people are just whinny

bud did not watch the video

The combat fucking blows

@@Sc4r1_ seethe

i don't get the obsession with the old system either

I never much liked getting combo'd... I don't want to have to press so many different inputs with impeccable timing just to win a fight.

yeah, i cried so much that the city i live in had to issue a flood warning 😢

@@auritro3903 lol

femboy

minecraft needs to add femboy... We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I (do I) A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it (to say it) Inside, we both know what's been going on (going on) We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

It was so sudden i'm dying XD

if Mojang had learnt its lesson they wouldn't have added chat bans to control "hate speech" around the world

@@OOO-mn1ds it's Microsoft problem

​@@OOO-mn1ds But that's different. That's a policy change, not a game change.

??? snapshots have been a thing since 2011 at least when i started playing

Uh. Snapshots were always a thing.

it seems to be an issue that plauges western game devs: -base opinions around terminally online dysgenics who don't even play -force aforementioned changes onto everybody with zero testing -proceed to gaslight upset players when those changes are bad, go back to step 1.

​@CantoniaCustoms mojang isn't a western game studio but ok

@@gregg6113 Today I learned Sweden was a province in China

@@CantoniaCustoms i would argue that the pvp community are also terminally online dysgenics

At this point even if they want they can't remove 1.9 pvp combat update like that cause a lot of ppl play 1.9 it has became its own pvp community now

Jeb 6:9 Thou shalt not attack without cooldowns

When even God has a strong opinion on 1.9

I love this

would the bible shine like a enchanted book?

That (should) means you know what the update log for 1.9 is. Subconsciously. Are you ok? Is it consciously too?

You and me both my dude, my favourites are 1.14 and 1.16 as well. Especially 1.16, suddenly not finding a nether fortress isn't so bad anymore

I think 1.14 is the worst update. It just made the game a lot easier like beds in villages, hay bales (allowing players to have stacks of food on the first minutes of the game), easier trading that give you ENCHANTED DIAMONDS and updated the textures to be worse.

@@XayXayYT 1.17 is my favorite

@@user-fe3ng7hp1o I like the textures more but the crossbow raids and a few other things I like better

​@@XayXayYT femboy

pretty good ost, no wonder why he used it multiple times.

It fits MC to be honest.

Especially the fact that ocean was completely empty aside from squid and monuments and of course guardians way before the update

Don't forget the fact that it added proper swimming!

the features were good but it came at the absolute utter destruction of the games optimisation, and its still barely fixed. its like 50% of what it was before 1.13

One biome is better but you end up with the whole game being worse? Nah mate that is in no way worth it.

Yeahhh tbh I think the concept that 1.13 was hated is sliiightly revisionist? I remember everyone being hyped out of their minds calling it the best update in years when it was new

🤓

​@@moe14lord face reveal?

@@watchinstarz yes

they didn't ignore the community lmao it's their game and they know what they're doing. They made a change for the better of both the community and the game, that's how game updates are supposed to be. There will always be some polarizing, look at the corpses updates on darkest dungeon, would you revert back a change that is undoubtedly unequivocally good to please some crybabies? Creating a precedent where crying -> changing the game, instead of actually making changes for the better of both? Think about it

I liked the combat changes. Spamming was annoying

Uhm, what? You know you can just change versions righttt???

@@aimbotxd7992 Well yeah but we should have the option to have old combat on the new versions. I seem to be the only one who likes the new combat though. I hope the new combat is added onto bedrock.

@@eight__822 The new combat would be annoying on Bedrock since Pocket Edition is also considered Bedrock, and that type of combat would be annoying to use on a touchscreen, tho idk. As for the different combat options, read the reply above yours.

@@thebushbros6626 There should at least be a combat toggle

@@eight__822 No there shouldn’t, read Cassowary’s reply if you wanna know why.

I feel like 1.9 pvp is better for survival but 1.8 is better for pvp

I agree

@@theotherguy7704 well in terms of PvP, both versions of combat are good in their own way.

The new combat update is really nice in a PvE/co op environment. If you’re simply goofing around w/ friends and fighting i also found it pretty fun bc everyone is equally bad. However pre 1.9 pvp has its charms that just aren’t there afterwards. The old combat system is way more fast paced. Games such as Skywars and Bedwars aren’t nearly as fun because knockback become so much less of a factor. In that sense I like playing pre 1.9 combat for the pacing in minigames.

In any game, PvP and PvE have *never* mixed well. The only way to make it work, is to have two systems at once that toggle between them.

Cool ideas, but this doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

i hope 1.21 is gonna finally end the combat snapshots to go with the new trials chambers and awesome dungeons additions

You're speaking the language of facts

1.9 pvp is way too slow paced man ;(

@@aimbotxd7992 you just gotta get used to it

Omg finally non-toxic opinion

Ive used both a lot and the old combat is so much better the new one decreases the skill gap so much and makes it so slow and boring. Theres a reason most server still have the old combat

I'll add this 'cause i hate edit comments that are "old" I recognise that the 1.9 combat can feel slow but my counter-argument to that is: Yeah, What about it? it can be more strategic, they didn't remove the knockback when you rush to an opponent, they didn't change Lava or Water in any way, to me, it can be sometimes more skillfull to block than spamming left and right click like a maniac, and they probably made cheaters life a lot worse because they couldn't just install an clickspam And no, im not biased towards the new combat, both of them have their pros and cons, i just want to point out that people defending the old one don't recognise the flaws that the combat had, both in pve and pvp, and i repeat myself, i prefer using more strategic ways to beat an oponent,

Seems like the perfect solution really.

The reason why is because accord to Jeb you can’t just make everything a toggle. If everything can be toggled well then everyone is just playing a different game. Every new weapon they add would need to fit both 1.8 and 1.9+ which just isn’t possible. Personally I think that’s a little silly but I can see where he’s coming from.

yeah but pvp servers won't update because the majority of their playerbase are 1.8 pvp tryhard zombies

I never went to play 1.9+ I got way better stuff at my finger tips and I dont /need/ it. Based.

Most ppl don’t find it the game breaker since just like you said combat is a small part of the game so I’m pretty sure they agree with you on this topic. I suppose you lose them when you talk about combat system being good

Usually, people stick only to one part of the game they enjoy the most, because that is the nature of minecraft. You might say it's ignorant to only focus on a few parts of the game, but in reality, the game is trying to accommodate a lot of people; builders, tech, survival, speedrunners, etc. If one person likes one aspect of minecraft more, they would only have their eyes on that specifically. Both the pvp combat systems have their quirks, 1.9 has made the axe have more purpose, but made combat too slow, and 1.8 has its simplicity, but hard to get into as the skill ceiling is high. (CPS is not the only main factor of 1.8 after all)

"Something interesting about this is that if you were talking about any other game that is still being updated to this day and said you were playing a version from 8 years ago, people would literally think you are insane." Tell that to Age of empires players.

I personally feel like shields still have a place since the ability to block is kind of necessary for melee fighting in games if dodging isn't a mechanical ability. Considering there are ways to combat it, fight pacing only really comes down to how you handle it.

I was so bad because my finger just weren't fast enough. Now is about timing. The sword disabling the shield with jum attacks its nice. But axes should get a bonus disable time if they were to get nerfed. I can see people using both , one to disable and the attacking with sword. A universal cool down would be needed, but people would complain. Dang I hate PvPs

​@@AstinCrow yes, but having to shift (bedrock) to block sucks. It breaks all your momentum. Makes sense, but it would be so annoying, since shifting already has too many uses

@@jujoya 7 cps, am decent, 1.8 PvP isn't all cps

@@AstinCrow But the problem is that its way too op. A person with a shield, iron axe, and no armor could beat someone with no shield, a diamond axe, with full iron armor

You've never tried 1.8, But ok, fellow human being.

​​@@aimbotxd7992 1.8 combat just doesn't make sense for survival. For PvP? Yeah, but survival? It's too spammy and uninteresting. This is coming from someone who played a lot before pre-1.9

​@@RowsieFox as a bedrock player i somewhat agree

@@aimbotxd7992 I tried it and it's just mindlessly spam clicking. If you aren't smart enough to make strats for your fights then ok.

@@RowsieFox I agree with it being bad for survival I really do

I'm really trying to improve it, but I'm glad that the wait makes it worth it!

@@XayXayYT femboy

@@HorizonForeverYT FEMBOY

Wort wort wort

I guess hunger has had more time to settle within the community, it is one of the very early new features after all, and those who hated hunger as a feature have either cooled down or quitted permanently.

I love this comment, I used to shred on 1.8 because my old mouse had a macross but when I did PvP on 1.16 with tridents, yoprd arrows, splash portions shields axe and ender pearls it was the most fun I had while fighting

Same.

Masochists

Same

​@@lx8381pov: 10 yr old that has fun by spamming

​@@vittoriosallicaticonstanti4445Kid named damage cooldown: Spamming doesn't give much of an advantage

The amount of people who think 1.7 was click to win is insane. Only two hits can register in a second and the tickrate makes it so that past 8 or so CPS it is no added benefit. It is unbelievable how many bad players think positioning, movement, aim, secondary usage, blocking, timing, walling, etc etc etc just didn't exist because some guy strafed them into oblivion and they blamed click speed when more than likely both of them were clicking the same speed. Tryhards overdo it to show off, not because it necessarily helps any significant amount.

If you could at least make bricks and craft tools and furnaces with those stones...

It’s because microsoft bought minecraft and they basically ruined the game

Same is like they never have it a chance

@@amalgama-dette1430 I kinda hate it, because most new people play the newer versions and never have the chance to test 1.8 so they get good at 1.9 and when they hear of 1.8 they've most likely already gotten good at it so they don't feel like trying to get good at another combat system so they stay there. I myself have tried 1.9 plenty of times and I got good pretty fast due to already having great movement from 1.8. Though it gets really boring after a while since there isn't many multiplayer servers for 1.9.

I feel like Beta 1.8 was far more polarizing. Less universally hated perhaps (as it was decently well done), but it really changed the course of minecraft development.

A fitting rename tbh

@@XayXayYT maybe you should change the name of the video if it suits better

@@CamoEye or the name of the series, considering EVERYTHING IN IT WAS ADDED IN 1.9

1.18 ruined the game

@@Tizflint06 Wasn’t that the version that added the new world generation I love the new world generation, adds variety to mining and makes it fun

​@@sparky6757 now we only need a revamp of trees. Acacia, Small Spruce and Tall Oak can stay, but others look *terribly* outdated

​@@Tizflint06 you are a special breed of human 📸

​@@Tizflint06Fixed* Haven't had interesting terrain since before the Adventure Update. 1.18 is a blessing from the Minecraft gods.

id take minecraft PvE over PvP any day so 1.9 is great

Same here, I like PvE with buffed mobs. It would be really cool if there was a mod to buff skeletons even further, just for the memes. I can imagine wall running and wall jumping skeletons that can snipe you from 30+ blocks away, firing deadly accurate arrows 2-4 times per second in bursts. That would make PvE something to behold :)

OG fans remember when minecraft was its most popular, was when it had no end game.

​@@Goremize That's just a coincidence, adding an endgame stage didn't cause Minecraft to lose its popularity.

@@Goremize Honestly when I did play minecraft I didn't even care for the end and my main objective was just to compulsively build autofarms until boredom lol.

i thought minecraft doesn't know genshin until i see this video ☠️

Imagine turning Minecraft into Satisfactory 💀

@@BLET_55artem55 let people play how they wanna play bruh

​@@BLET_55artem55 Gee it's almost like it's a sandbox game that encourages different playstyles and that's why it was so successful with all kinds of people

@@jocosejpeg and complaining about it* Forgot to add

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Praise the Firefly :3

sword is better dps

Facts

the sword is way better than the axe by a mile, axes are only better for the first 20 mins of the game, and fully enchanted netherite sword+strength2 is x2 or x3 higher dps than same scenario for axe, if you really think axes deals more damage than swords you really dont know anything about the game wich i think is the problem with most of the people that doesnt like the new combat system, all they think is that swords are useless and now the only option is axe+shield when shield is not even worth using and swords are much better than axes

yeah I loved that feature, it's so sad it got removed

Due.

Yeah I literally hate it so much its one of the things I hate the most about bedrock having to sneak to block is just annoying

also attacking while blocking. that's so scuffed, maybe not for PvE but certainly for PvP

yea really sad when I accadentally kill my dogs, or when im protecting some villagers, so thats when I use axes

Unforgivable tbh, nothing was even wrong with it

:( seguramente con la adición de la segunda mano en bedrock habrá con ello la combate update, lo que tal vez también retrasó esa actualización de combate

you forgot to add "again" for Trump joke

Hope after this bedrock will get offhand and other combat feature that java have(for sword i hope they didnt nerf it)

They made the skill floor higher and the skill ceiling lower they literally made is worse and less skill based lol They both revolve around spam clicking the new one just makes you click when a icon lights up instead, also a wooden axe deals as much damage a diamond sword, that is not remotely fair

Lmao, I had to do what I had to do, to get the perfect sun rays alright?

​@@XayXayYT fair 😂