This was an awesome conversation with Jaffe, I really enjoy the different viewpoints and being able to laugh at stuff, too.

Jaffe is saying Xbox should have poached experienced staff and build their own studio in 2018… But that‘s literally what they did with The Initative.

To Jaffe's point about the T-Mobile thing around the 1:50:00 mark. I got a 6 months free spotify premium sub from Xbox and that was almost 7 years ago now and guess what?? I'm still rockin' that premium subscription and love it!

Great show. Really enjoyed jaffe telling how it is and what xbox needs to do to correct.

Love Jaffe not talking Rand excuses lol. It's pretty obvious leadership of Xbox it's terrible.

Love Jaffe

Love this discussion. Jaffe always has some of the best insights on the industry that can be found on KZfaq

Dont think tropic thunder would go down so well nowadays in theae crazy times

This show was a lot of fun

I am a middle age gamer and I can say that NONE of my friends ever heard of game pass

I think Xbox need to make a TV commercial about gamepass but they need show how it works.

Love or hate him. Some of the shit Jaffe says is spot on.

Jaffe was spot on with his assessment of Xbox tbh. I know some people are still riding high from the excellent showcase, but that doesn't change the fact that they've horrible mismanaged studios, been terrible with marketing and communication, and are inconsistent with quality. I'm relatively optimistic about 2025, but let's not just gloss over the last decade of shortcomings.

Banging intro

Most people don’t want wallbouncing removed from gears; what they want is for it to be balanced. So instead of being able to cancel your slide like you can in every game after 1, you need to physically touch the wall and commit to the move like you you to in 1/UE.

Microsoft's content problem isn't because of the pandemic. They had that issue way before the pandemic happened.

I agree with jaffe, I think the management part of Xbox is a complete disaster

Jez how dare you have exclusive content on patreon. When we all watch for free, we all win!!!

Very exited to listen to this one

New song intro! Sounds dope!

I'm a huge Xbox fan and I have to say, Jaffe is right. About everything.

57:10 Return to Grace

Jez controller clicking away 2 minutes into the show😂😂

The booty situation 😭😭

The only things I disagree with is how he doesn’t mind that Xbox leaves the console business. Why would they leave the console business?, in some ways he is very forward thinking but in this aspect it seems very traditionalist. I think a Xbox doesn’t need to sell 100m to be successful but definitely more than they are doing now for sure.

Man, if Jaffe is questioning xbox, I'm curious about what he thinks of playstation and its future.

4:49 😂

Starfield was my first Bethesda experience and the story was absolutely amazing. The 30 FPS ruined it a little, it could have been perfect

I think jaffe was pretty on point. MS do have enough studios now but it still feels like lack of quality control when it comes to xbox. It seems like it’s going to improve starting next year and in 2026 but even if it does they can't, under no circumstance let it drop from there if they are serious about gamepass growth and brand reputation.

You gotta remember that games arent the same as TV/Movies. clearly game pass isnt growing leaps and bounds the way Netflix did even after all these years. if a product is awesome, it would market itself and word of mouth spreads out. Netflix didnt market anything and it's dominated the world. Game pass should be at 50-100 million subs by now, but it isnt even close to that.

Still no cams?

Solid interview overall. Jez’s defense rant of Booty was bizarre & unfortunately an example of what Xbox’s fans think of. Jaffe was speaking about Booty from a games PoV, yet money was brought up. Also just because the games hit the top meta critic list (I suppose that is not being used again) it doesn’t mean the games will help attract mindshare. That’s what Jaffe was alluding to.

1:17:00 the xbox had a very short window of outsellg playstation.. Jaffe was right about it being PS5 was harder to get ao people just bought the Xbox. Plus the Series S was the one that was flying off the shelves, the series X is such a small portion of the total number

2:25:17 isn't that already happening? If I'm building a game, and I know that software in general isn't selling well on a platform (in this case Xbox, because of gamepass), and I have to make cost decisions, not developing for Xbox is an easy decision to make, because very few people or none would buy my game anyway

Im constantly having to explain to people what gamepass is.

Jaffe talking badly about Psychonauts 2, Grounded, HiFi Rush, and Deathloop is actually infuriating. Xbox deserves criticism sometimes, but not for those games.

Lol almost forgot how bad Jaffe's Helldivers 2 takes were.

Ik people say kids only play fortnite and don't care about owning games. But they act like they not gonna grow up and want to own what they play . Dont think that same kid at 28 years old gonna still be on roblox and dont care about owning what they buy

Great talk. There were points from all three that I agree with, I sort of think Xbox's issues/solutions are pretty multi-faceted it can take a while to cover them all lol

Jaffe and greg miller should sponsor sweet baby inc.

After hearing Jaffe shit on Xbox games for over 10 plus minutes around the 50 minute mark. I would just want to ask him a little bit about Sony's games... Because it seems to me that Sony doesn't really continue its franchises from generation to generation as much as we all remember/think we remember. Ratchet n Clank has put out games on every generation of PlayStation. But whatever happened to the Jak and Daxter franchise? I feel like their last original game was in the PS3. Even games like Parappa the Rapper, who was just showcased in the Astro Bot game, It has been since the PS2. Sony has a ton of awesome legacy IP, even like SOCOM which was brought up, but they have not been as good about bringing it up from generation to generation as much as people seem to think. Not saying that Xbox has either, besides Halo and Forza and Gears. But they both could take a page out of Nintendos book when it comes to creating and maintaining IP's. I really hope Xbox takes more of a legitimate look at that going forward with all these studios. If they are going to give everyone the freedom to create the games they want n new IP, they need to have these same studios mature these IP and maintain them going forward.

When u need a game yesterday you cant just create studios.. what is the difference between buying studios and buying people from the studio??? Is no good or bad here.. is just a method..

JEZ CRYING PANDEMIC PANDEMIC PANDEMIC WEAKENED ME. JAFFE IS CORRECT. MS SHAT THE BED.

I’m still shocked Rand quit playing redfall. It’s not an awesome game but so horrible that you quit playing. I finished Redfall and even started new game +

Is he a cake or biscuit

I still like redfall. It's a 7.5 in my book

To Jaffe's point about Xbox management compared to Sony's, the problem is Sony puts out a very restricted set of games that follow a well known formula (3rd person action/adventure games) while Xbox Studios put out a wide range of games so it's comparing apples to oranges. It's a lot easier to manage games that are mostly the same and pump them out so Booty does have a harder time of it with the diverse range he deals with not to mention the internal studios like Bethesda and Activision who want to do it their way. Maybe they should have different game managers for the different genres of games in Xbox who are overseen by Booty and then they could manage them more closely and efficiently.

👂 checkin in.

What do we lose if Xbox Hardware (consoles?) is gone? I dont understandt why XboxTwo are struggle to answer this Question. Gamerscore Xbox Clubs and Player search Xbox Inovates (Quick Resume ect.) Xbox Store (diff. games on Sale) All our Friends gone No new Xbox Controller (maybe) Playstaions major Competitor gone

One more thing and then I'll let this matter drop. If one of your guests tells you he isn't trying to be a dick, that just means he already said something diskish, and is just trying to cover it up. Man, this guy really got under my skin.

Agree with you Jez on Gears, they NEED to finish that story. They emotionally pulled us in with that "decision" in 5 and then they don't finish it? Come on!

Love how Rand tries to justify the terrible decisions of a trillion dollar corporation. Next time he's calling out the fanboys he should look in the mirror. I'm so glad Jaffe was here to call him out

I enjoyed the conversation but i didn’t appreciate jaffe’s over talking everyone. Xbox two handled it well but come on man.

David Jaffe is just hating in here

Daffy Jaffy 🙄 creative management the same formula 3rd person in different worlds 🙄🙄 the only two PS games I’d play are LOU and GOW

Jaffe gives you something to think about but some of his takes are pretty wild and unrealistic. One thing for sure once a Sony guy always a Sony guy.

Dude I just skimmed the PS5 online store deals, and I was pretty surprised to see HiFi Rush Deluxe edition for $7... I couldn't believe the deluxe edition was that cheap! AND still not selling!

Here is where sony succed where ms dont... Sony has been in entertainment for years... Ms is just a software company... They need to hire people from the entertainment industry to know how to deliver something that clicks...

Everyone says this but every person I know who has a console knows what gameplay is around me at my job

I bought r&c for ps5 and didnt really like it. I forced my self to beat it and put it on eBay the same day 😂

Sony appears to be lost and out of touch at the moment. I wouldn't want to copy any of their practices at this point...

Xbox game pass has a better metecritic score then ps5 games .Mo one ever brings that up

Great interview Jaffe is a smart dude in the industry. Liked him a lot till he talked politics. Guess u can't be smart about everything 🤷

Surely what Jaffe says about Sony no longer holds. Spiderman 2 was super buggy and not really great Insomniacs platformer Ratchet had no collision detection. The games Sony are funding like Stellar Blade lack that Sony quality so yes in the past Sony’s quality was there but no more even Silent Hill remake look so generic.

PS has also put out some shit games so its not like all ps games are just bangers

So bow compulsion and undead labs are trash? Now the only thing that should be bought is big franchises that make the same shit no original games no building up studios no seeing potinal in anyone unless there huge devs with huge ips no taling risk Ok gotcha

David Jaffe is a bitter hack

Your guest claims he's not into console wars but he sure does like taking a crap on everything Xbox. He couldn't wave that Playstation flag any higher.

I like how Sony always gets the benefit of the doubt and all the bad games they released get ignored. What have they released this gen that's so amazing? All I see is remasters of old games.

Podcast started out well, but Jaffes takes became worse and worse as the show went on.

Gears 5 does not “end of a cliffhanger” you just don’t know which ending is canon. And honestly who cares?

Your guest sounds full of himself. He's not calling you stupid but his attitude is saying he is. Definitely won't be listening to his channel.

Guys, you need to be more aggressive when it comes to guests like this. He literally bad-mouthed Xbox for two hours on an Xbox channel and you let it happen. When he asked you why you need an Xbox and all you could say was 'all my games are there' you should have gone off on him. This guy raked you over the coals for two hours! His little Playstation fan boys are going to love this video.

Nobody went to see Indiana Jones because the last one was awful and word of mouth the new one was also bad.

Hard pass...

Jaffee is just the worst humanity has to offer.

Jaffe is a pony man Sony is dead and I grew up with the ps1 and ps2 best playstation will ever be #no playstation 6