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Xeno Reacts to: "Former WoW Nerd's First Impressions of Savage | FFXIV: Endwalker" by Lucron

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Xenosys Vex

Xenosys Vex

2 жыл бұрын

In this video Xeno reacts to Lucron's (a former World of Warcraft veteran player) opinion regarding the Final Fantasy XIV (FFXIV) Savage Raids. Lucron has beat P1S, P2S and is currently progging P3S.
Xeno gives his take, and compares Final Fantasy 14 raiding with WoW but also with other games he has previously played such as Rift and Tera.
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@lyconxero457
@lyconxero457 2 жыл бұрын
I'm personally just glad that there are so many more creators actually creating content for FFXIV, and Lucron is one of the good ones.
@TheMCmace
@TheMCmace 4 ай бұрын
last upload of him was 1 year ago sadge
@gordonjackson4040
@gordonjackson4040 2 жыл бұрын
Good react. Keep pushing for either more upgrade drops or less tomestone BIS. One twine drop a week when groups need 20+ total is brutal, even including the earned book exchange.
@luxadia7310
@luxadia7310 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, tomestone BiS is decided by player, making tomestone deliberately with worse substats would make it way worse for class like BLM or healers who can make really good use of the differents stats, it would be annoying af to have only the raid gear getting Crit/DH subroll or thing like that
@gordonjackson4040
@gordonjackson4040 2 жыл бұрын
@@luxadia7310 The devs proudly say that they play their own game, so they are players too. Saying the players decide BIS absolves the devs of any misgivings when the devs are literally the people choosing what gear has what stats. It's literally a choice between two pieces for one slot after all. Two pieces. They know which pieces we'll want to use, and at it's worse we, the players would want both pieces for options depending on fight. My and most other people's issue with the current system isn't 'where' we get the stats we want, or even necessarily that tomestones shouldn't be BIS. The only reason we're complaining this tier is simply how long it takes to get the best version of said stats. It shouldn't take 7 weeks to get my last twine upgrade because I'm last in line as a healer, while we watch raid boots, gloves, pants and accessories free rolled on alt jobs for weeks. Even if I was in a different group and got my upgrades early, someone would probably have to wait 7 weeks to get their last upgrade with our weekly lockouts and gear desires. So, I'm not necessarily advocating for tomestone gear to be worse, nor for raid gear to be better. I'm advocating to not make a single weekly raid drop, twine in particular, so scarce and high in demand across 8 people. Twines and coatings should not have the drop weekly frequency as chest coffers when most raiders want at least two or three. Again, it's only particularly rough this tier because of tomestone gear stats are great for a lot of roles, and it is something the devs should be fully aware of.
@TankHunter678
@TankHunter678 2 жыл бұрын
It gets easier once the catchup patch (x.1) comes out where you can spend alliance raid tokens to upgrade the weekly tomestone gear.
@gordonjackson4040
@gordonjackson4040 2 жыл бұрын
It also gets even easier when they decide to get rid of the weekly savage lockout before the next tier. If the best argument is to wait months til patches speed up the progression, it’s not a good system. It’s basically saying we’re wasting our time now.
@Mrsuperdestroyer
@Mrsuperdestroyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@luxadia7310 You can buy twine as well for books.
@StealthMaster5k
@StealthMaster5k 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Lucron wouldve tried out Shadowbringers raids, they still hold up
@ValkyrissaGaming
@ValkyrissaGaming 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't play that game because I have self-respect" instant like
@juanbermejo1943
@juanbermejo1943 Жыл бұрын
He chooses violence every time he wakes up😂
@kurhooni5924
@kurhooni5924 Жыл бұрын
instant trash talk for nothing, ff14 litteraly took every wow concept, but casualised it to the extreme, go back take G pose and do nothing cause your end game content is cleared in one week, even for casuals players
@Koranthus
@Koranthus 10 ай бұрын
@@kurhooni5924 its cleared in a week because its clearable. Like its actually tested and clearable. Not to mention, WoW has been continually making their RWF take longer every time because they want to milk those viewer numbers. Also, only ARR is based off WoW originally, they very quickly moved over to their own stuff around HW-SB. Not to mention nothing WoW does is original to them. Not to mention this video came out during Shadowlands, the largest bleeding period in WoW besides maybe Cata having to follow Wrath. Honestly, it's not even trash talk as much as objective facts considering the game did not respect your time whatsoever.
@kzorander8577
@kzorander8577 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love a history video from you! I loved Larryzaur's history vids, and I think you'd have a different perspective.
@Panzerkuh
@Panzerkuh 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to the healer dps in WoW, an easy way to divide average from excellent healers is their dps parses, same for tanks. You're expected to heal enough/mitigate for tanks to avoid deaths, then past that pump all you can. You don't need to be out there trying to be a 1 man medic army, just enough heals to not die. Remember the faster the boss dies, the less damage they do, so it's like pre healing ;)
@Lockz1111
@Lockz1111 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that's also not a mentality that should be pushed on people who have 0 interest in savages, ultimates, etc. At the end of the day a clear is a clear after all
@Panzerkuh
@Panzerkuh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lockz1111 Well this is about savage content, where people generally don't clutch their pearls when asked to do more than the bare minimum
@shadowdragon8168
@shadowdragon8168 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does anyone else think that you should be able to trade the raid clear books in for tomes? I know you can't make it to where you can get P4 stuff with P1 books, but P1 books become useless after you get all your accessories and P4 books become useless once you have your chest and weapon. So I feel like you should be able to trade them in for tomes to help get your tome gear a bit faster and make the tomes you get from trading books in NOT count towards your weekly tome cap, that way you can technically get more then 450 a week, also, if it counted towards the weekly tome cap, there would literally be no point other then reduce the amount of farming you have to do that week, which is whatever, since it takes almost no time to cap each week.
@luxadia7310
@luxadia7310 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on this but at the same time, assuming you never get upgrade directly and only buy with book, you are done with full memoquartz 4 weeks before you are even done with p1s/p4s book
@thrillainthemanilla1409
@thrillainthemanilla1409 2 жыл бұрын
That gives an a pretty large advantage to raiders and savage statics over casuals though which is against FF14s idea for the game. You can see this in the fact that crafted gear is so cracked
@shadowdragon8168
@shadowdragon8168 2 жыл бұрын
@@thrillainthemanilla1409 I don't see that as a problem, those raiders are putting in the effort and time to clear those raids, why shouldn't they be rewarded for that? I understand 14 is more of a casual focused game, but if you don't put the time or effort in, you aren't going to get as many rewards as fast.
@shadowdragon8168
@shadowdragon8168 2 жыл бұрын
@@luxadia7310 I get what you mean, but I don't see that as a problem. If you are done with Tomes in a month on your main, then that frees you up to focus on getting gear for any alt jobs you might want to gear up. One thing I don't understand with the game is that, it allows you to play alt jobs easily and even encourages it, yet in savage, it hard locks you from getting gear for those alt jobs unless its of the same armor type your main is at.
@thrillainthemanilla1409
@thrillainthemanilla1409 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowdragon8168 I don’t see it as a problem either. I’m just stating ff14s apparent design philosophy. Besides raiders are already awarded for raiding with mounts,materials,armors,titles, etc so I can see how giving them even further rewards would be unnecessary in the eyes of SE. When you think about it they really only have something to lose by giving raider the ability to get infinite tomestones weekly because the only thing that would happen is casuals getting angry, casuals being a much bigger part of the community than raiders are
@Fomortiis100
@Fomortiis100 2 жыл бұрын
Castlevania AND Etrian Odyssey music? I like this guy.
@zynexhiru4118
@zynexhiru4118 2 жыл бұрын
Randomly hearing Castlevania Curse of Darkness OST always makes my day, bless
@NocturneNox1
@NocturneNox1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a solo savage guy in the pf
@sugoisenpai92
@sugoisenpai92 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Crying because P3S
@NocturneNox1
@NocturneNox1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sugoisenpai92 I was able to get bis this week after finally pf progging and getting lucky with both coffers
@jopet216
@jopet216 2 жыл бұрын
@@sugoisenpai92 I'm in p3s as well and pretty much gave up for now. Then Lost Ark released and all I do is 1 and 2 and call it a week.
@The_TylrG
@The_TylrG 2 жыл бұрын
My static uses the Box strat for the divebomb buddies in P3S. It's easier since it's the same as Darkened Fire. :)
@shadowdragon8168
@shadowdragon8168 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I think they should do with tome and raid gear is make it to where you can trade a piece of raid gear in for a piece of fully upgraded tome gear of the same armor type and slot. That way, raid gear you win from raids isn't useless if the raid piece isn't bis for you, you can just take that piece in and trade it for the tome piece, fully upgraded since if a raid piece isn't bis for a slot, the tome piece will be, also helps if you have a situation like now where a class/role (tanks this tier) needs almost every piece of tome gear and almost nothing from raid. Those raid pieces aren't useless for a tank and it doesn't take them forever to get bis since the tomes are capped each week and it will take you a while to get those pieces from tomes.
@TheOne23_
@TheOne23_ 2 жыл бұрын
I would even take trading a raid piece for a token and trade 2 tokens for an upgraded tome piece
@SquallL47
@SquallL47 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for reminding me of "the walk of shame" the very first tier of coils had this, before they added it to duty finder, you had to go from 1-5 and each new fight was basically a checkpoint, but some of them still had long winded running.
@FrankysABoysName
@FrankysABoysName 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between WoW and FFXIV healing: The last time I played WoW was the start of SL and as a resto shaman I could easy purple parse healer dps by throwing out flame shock and lightening bolt semi regularly. Trying out savage for the first time this tier... I *feel* like Im always dpsing and I'm getting shitastic grey parses.
@Inhaledcorn
@Inhaledcorn 2 жыл бұрын
DoT uptime, keeping the GCD rolling, good movement planning, and good cooldown management are big factors in getting good DPS parses with healers.
@totallynottrademarked5279
@totallynottrademarked5279 2 жыл бұрын
Over here healer DPS is tied to how well your party is doing. If they need more heals than the fight cadence actually calls for you are losing GCDs that could have been damage to heals. Later in the tier there are people running literal sack runs for people parsing. Where the other healer runs max piety and just solo heals while the other healer goes for their parse.
@imoore1986
@imoore1986 2 жыл бұрын
I don't play FF or WOW. I subscribed to watch this guy yell facts about the game and I love it. Maybe in the future I will decide to play but until then I have personal goals to fulfill in my other crappy MMOs. Much love from an outsider. P.S. I clicked the bell XD
@heiral7773
@heiral7773 2 жыл бұрын
Lucron is a good dude, solid react 👌
@loupinconnu
@loupinconnu 2 жыл бұрын
Loot system is fine when they don't pull the crap where every member of your group needs 3+ twine. This tier however...
@Xantrahx
@Xantrahx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this tier is brutal.
@viiiRA_
@viiiRA_ 2 жыл бұрын
The wipe at 9:30 was everyone except the PLD fault. The pair at 3 was WHM/PLD, where the WHM went mid and used Assize to hit all of them but then the PLD was only one targetting it after that. No target arrows showed of people swapping to it.
@HarumiYu
@HarumiYu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda jealous of the intensity and fun this guy is having playing the game, long gone for me in XIV, not because the game is bad, but for "boomers" in this game, everything is really easy and not much of a challenge, you overheat your brain with other people instead of the Extremes/Savage/Ultimate itself.
@nukenade4623
@nukenade4623 Жыл бұрын
as someone coming in from mythic wow, and nightmare swtor raids. ff14 is easy for me right now, since im still doing the msq and i know how mmos work for tanking lol. cant wait to get to p12s and such
@Topaz723
@Topaz723 2 жыл бұрын
Pentamelding vs Lost Ark Honing? I'll take pentamelding in literally every single way
@index5442
@index5442 2 жыл бұрын
Floor indications were there all along. Heavensward going forward. It's because you don't have addons and shit telling you what to do when to stop moving how far to move etc..
@TheBenirons
@TheBenirons 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for sure need more upgrade drops, still grinding twines 2 months in lmao. I also think everyone in my static bought 2 twines too (thank god for week one p3s clear). On a different note, i hate how we have to wear one raid and one tome ring. I wish they made the rings not unique, or even just stat squish us down to 1 ring slot. My gripe in particular is the lack of choice, i dont want skill speed on my warrior tyvm!
@luxadia7310
@luxadia7310 2 жыл бұрын
Do warrior not require 2.47 sks anymore?
@TheBenirons
@TheBenirons 2 жыл бұрын
@@luxadia7310 no, warrior is a 2.5 job
@Olkard
@Olkard 2 жыл бұрын
I like the environment in WoW's raid with trash and what not. The first time. Running back to the boss after dying is stupid.
@teph1256
@teph1256 2 жыл бұрын
what's the deal with the loot lockout? why force everyone to not have done the fight? it feels like it force "statics" and could lead to toxic behavior if one player can't make it, or decided to help a friend or something, and seems completely unnecessary
@wantedhume975
@wantedhume975 2 жыл бұрын
Hot damn I wanna be Tank 1!
@owlserah
@owlserah 2 жыл бұрын
1:50 literally watching this while in a P3S PF 😞
@Leife22
@Leife22 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if WoWs pre-raid prep and loot systems were better, it wouldn't be that bad. When comparing the two games, it really shows the bad state wow raids are in for some folks.
@SwordmasterChannel
@SwordmasterChannel 2 жыл бұрын
As an outsider to WoW the amount of prep and cost of prep seems ridiculous to enjoy content you want to enjoy and that feels like the fundamental problem.
@aerostrike3730
@aerostrike3730 2 жыл бұрын
Should at least bump up number of twines/coating that drop and reduce amount of tomes needed. By the time you can gear up all classes you wana play, next tier has arrived and there’s a new BIS
@Lockz1111
@Lockz1111 2 жыл бұрын
That just sounds like a purposeful design decision. Once you're done you now have new stuff to do.
@MasterGaming234
@MasterGaming234 2 жыл бұрын
Xeno thought about making a video talking about what devs could do to make savage drops better
@XenosysVex
@XenosysVex 2 жыл бұрын
i did actually haha kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMiKlqirvJvRhHU.html
@mathewlau1733
@mathewlau1733 2 жыл бұрын
I think trash and some scenery would be fine in normals and then just have the boss room in savage.
@ArchieGamez
@ArchieGamez 2 жыл бұрын
Yep i agree, the place does feel like perfect to explore and clear trash in normal
@huntermccaskill3938
@huntermccaskill3938 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I would change about the savage loots: There are 8 contributors, there are 4 items Why? Did half the raid sit on their thumbs and only deserve a pity prize?
@user-re4mj4vu5f
@user-re4mj4vu5f 2 жыл бұрын
so it take longer for people to get BIS which means the content get to play "longer".
@huntermccaskill3938
@huntermccaskill3938 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-re4mj4vu5f That's the wow-brain cynicism kicking in, friend I don't fault you for it, but it is antithetical to the entire philosophy the team works with
@Kojiro3210
@Kojiro3210 Жыл бұрын
Pffft. ive done Savage turn 3's with DUTY FINDER ! Just yolo it.
@SteveSmith-br3vu
@SteveSmith-br3vu 2 жыл бұрын
Where are the eeeels
@shadowdragon8168
@shadowdragon8168 2 жыл бұрын
14:50 My rolls are about as good as my beard game (Non-existent)
@goldtoothslair3052
@goldtoothslair3052 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I'm not even anywhere near this content and I felt that Dragoon burn all the way in the shadow Bringers. But it's so true being a Dragoon main we do die a lot and the tell you the truth I don't really know why our armor is decent our weapon does.ok damage and our rotation is on more of the easy / medium difficulty especially since they did the rework. But six times out of ten it's either the Dragoon, ninja or dancer there are the first ones to fall in any dungeon or even trial. If there's a bottomless pit then it's a 10/10 that you'll most likely find a Dragoon down there. Come on Dragoon buddies don't deny me on this one we have all fell down almost every single pit you can think of lol
@totallynottrademarked5279
@totallynottrademarked5279 2 жыл бұрын
Animation locks. Jump at the wrong time and you are dead.
@hurri-db
@hurri-db 2 жыл бұрын
I did the whole tier through the party finder. 1 twine away from BiS. It hurt.
@jeffmlaughlin
@jeffmlaughlin 2 жыл бұрын
Quin? Who dat?
@specialnewb9821
@specialnewb9821 2 жыл бұрын
That dude used Chrono Trigger music. Instant like. Oh. FFBE music too. Meh.
@bigquazz3955
@bigquazz3955 2 жыл бұрын
I agree the loot system is garbage. If it's possible for one person to get lucky rolls and fully gear In a couple of weeks, then people who lost those rolls should have much faster gearing options. The fact that some people will take 16 weeks to get their weapon and chest because of lost rolls while other people can get them on week 1, is fucking ridiculous. It's not like that guy won the weapon and chest on week one is going pass on them for the next 15 weeks unless they're in a static environment.
@overratedcynic9124
@overratedcynic9124 2 жыл бұрын
HAT! 14:00
@sl5945
@sl5945 2 жыл бұрын
the "in wow you only heal" part is half right. in raids, there's more emphasis on healing (though it is fight dependent tbh, and the good healers will also be pumping out damage) In the other endgame, M+ (hardcore dungeons basically), healer damage is very VERY important. Likely due to the team size combined with the timer. It's like a constant minigame between your tank and healer to see how little healing the healer needs to do while both are outputting as much damage as possible. Some healers even have the ability to out damage the tank (holy paladin s1 shadowlands for instance), so it becomes a DPS gain to just kite the pack of mobs forever while the healer does damage, and weave in some heavy AoEs with defensive cooldowns active.
@laughingoctopus785
@laughingoctopus785 Жыл бұрын
one day someone will explain to xeno's whats wow's loot
@FtanmoOfEtheirys
@FtanmoOfEtheirys 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a proud 1.0 boomer xD
@enpi-me
@enpi-me 2 жыл бұрын
"I don' play wow cause I have self respect" 😂😂😂
@RoyvanG
@RoyvanG 2 жыл бұрын
7:40 "What is tank 1 doing" Yeah, Billy never truly understood when we told him to work on his 'rotation'
@cabellism
@cabellism 2 жыл бұрын
@12:02 You mentioned about rez sickness nerfing stats at 50% and such. and you would get it if you was a boomer... God damit..... Been playing ffxiv since 1.0 briefly mainly since 2.0.
@Waddacash
@Waddacash 2 жыл бұрын
I like xeno cuz he has a little guys head with a big guys beard
@XenosysVex
@XenosysVex 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@dingding12321
@dingding12321 Жыл бұрын
In wow you prep for the raid tier by joining a raid lol
@Zenith118
@Zenith118 2 жыл бұрын
You should react to Asmongolds reaction to these videos. Would be pretty meta.
@kurhooni5924
@kurhooni5924 Жыл бұрын
I hope that you will never playvwow in your life, cause if that happen, you will know that u would have enjoyed both games and u will regret not trying it earlier :)
@FloDaddelt
@FloDaddelt 2 жыл бұрын
In wow you can wisper other players during raid, so walk of shame = shittalk time in your private chatrooms with your raid buddies u are close with.
@villaniousmustache4898
@villaniousmustache4898 2 жыл бұрын
What's their to differentiate? Most MMOs are similar to each other and that's not a bad thing. It just means you have experience But these folks opinions can be utterly cringe and weird a lot of the time But this ex wow player can make some good vids though! 👍
@chloekaftan
@chloekaftan 2 жыл бұрын
Imma be honest, with xenosys whining about petty things regarding how the twines/oils/etc need to drop more despite how forgiving, anti-pvp, and stress-free the gearing system already is, no offense but it just makes xeno look like an entitled child. I have played virtually every single mmo outside of china/korea exclusives so i know how bad it is for them, compared to that ffxiv is a massive breath of fresh air. You have 2 YEARS to wait until the next major expansion so if the time it takes to gear up and grind mats is a problem for you, then just stop treating it like a game that you think you need to finish within a month, otherwise you'll just complain again when theres another content drought. By the time 6.5x (or later) comes out, some kind of quality of life update will be added to make things easier, this always happens. "If you're used to fantastic, suddenly it isn't so fantastic anymore". Sounds like something a spoiled child would say.
@classof09official
@classof09official 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes. i just remembered we cannot strive to improve because some sweatshop korean MMO wants you to pay to enchant. 🥴
@zenspeed404
@zenspeed404 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaan_ I was paying to play WOW as well, and Chloe's right: compared to other MMOs, FFXIV is downright generous with its drops. Like the token system is unbelievably flexible, and then you get the tomes on top of that as actual bad luck protection. People complain that they don't get drops for EVERY class they want to play, and all I'm thinking is "Dude, we didn't enough drops for ONE class." I remember Xenos was complaining that it would take him seven weeks to collect enough weapon tokens for his BIS, but during that time he would also be collecting enough tokens for the BIS for the rest of his gear. In WOW, the loot is randomized in a pool, so you'd best pray that your BIS weapon drop came from one of the easy bosses and that you'd roll well against anyone else who used your weapon. Oh, and there was no unique status to loot: if a person has something like The Sword of a Thousand Truths and thought they'd like to have another, there was nothing stopping them from getting two...or three, or four because you know, gem sockets and enchants and optimization, and all that crap. And my personal favorite? When loot drops that nobody in the group can use AGAIN; it's a wonderful way to piss your time away, lemme tell ya. FFXIV's loot system ain't perfect, but honestly, when you see what that system evolved from, it's not that bad.
@justicegenesis6726
@justicegenesis6726 2 жыл бұрын
trash FF15~
@aresanu
@aresanu 2 жыл бұрын
He already started wrong…I feel most new comers need to start from the first savage raid content then move onto current cause the mechanics and etc would groom them ALOT more better
@deltaoalice9281
@deltaoalice9281 2 жыл бұрын
Except game design has specifically made the first two floors a comparable transition from EX. They have done it right. Just because they aren't good doesn't mean the content is not designed with newer raiders in mind.
@classof09official
@classof09official 2 жыл бұрын
What? People should go back to level 60 content before starting current savage? You ok buddy?
@imdone439
@imdone439 2 жыл бұрын
Man recognizes bloody tears is a banger, subbed - unsubbed so I can sub again
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