This comment made my day! I appreciate you saying that - thank you. Welcome and stoked to have you! 💪

Keep me posted on how you like them! Haha, thank you. That has been a constant work in progress to gain that front rack positioning!

Thank you!

Thank you as always! Stoked you enjoyed this one.

I’ve had a few asks about nutrition before! That topic is always tough because it’s so individual and nuanced, but I could definitely share some videos discussing it in the future 💪

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@@thatfitfriend my only concern is how to zelen's will hold up since the straps are outside instead of sewn in like the other.

@@bryanrivera9980 IMO, if you're rotating them then I think they'd be fine!

@@thatfitfriend thanks for the input!

@@bryanrivera9980 thanks for engaging with the vids as always! If you grab a pair, would love to hear your thoughts 💪

Thank you! I'd go HFS because it's very similar to the Zelen with performance and you'll save a little bit of money if that's important for your buying experience. If you were just planning to just lift in the shoes, then I'd say opt for the PL3.

@@thatfitfriend Thank you! I'm curious why they made the Zellen when the HFS is so similar. Maybe just because it's more eco friendly?

@@AlvaTheSpurned The eco-friendliness would be my guess as more are wanting shoes with these properties!

Either or! Both are super similar, so in this context, I’d choose based on price/colorway you prefer.

Thank you! Yeah, which model are you looking into, the Zelen or a Vivo? Vivo and Xero Shoes have both had models that ran small, then they updated their sizing for the next iteration which has made sizing a complete pain point for many so you're not alone there!

@@thatfitfriend I'm looking at the Zelen but it's my first pair of Xero's and I can't get it wrong as my gf is picking them up in the US and bringing it back to Bali for me. Would it be safe to say that if I'm a 41 in newer Vivos, I'm probably a 41 in Xeros?

@@knowledgeRS Yes, IMO! These run true-to-size so I think 41 would be a safe call here!

@@thatfitfriend Thanks for that. You've got a new sub!

@@knowledgeRS Ayyy, thank you for that! Welcome and stoked to have you. Keep me posted on the Zelen when they arrive and how you like them!

Right now, I’ve been digging the Zelen. Same hybrid features as the HFS but with better appearance and durability.

Currently, I’m liking the Tolos Archetype 1.0s, Primus Asana, and the Wildling Chestnut

how did they work out?

@@azizshavershian2065 absolutely love them! I prefer them over my Xero shoe prio suede. The zelen looks and feel like I can and do wear them all day long

Hit you back on IG!

Did you find the reply to this question?

Thank you - and I can behind that, especially relatively speaking!

That would be FIRE and I agree - less floppy toe box, which is a win for both training/looks

@@thatfitfriend have to get sending them feed back ^^ its odd because they've dropped a few all white colourways in some of their shoes but only the womens models They did launch the Kelso too, which looks good but wouldn't dual up a s a training shoe

Not dumb at all! It’s a lacing strategy that utilizes the top eyelet to promote more shoe security. I have an article that discusses it and how to do it, which I’m linking here if you want to check it out! thatfitfriend.com/heel-slip-shoes-how-to-fix/

@@thatfitfriend oh very indepth article. I also like that you mentioned the nano x's as they're my favorite shoe. Ever lol

They're on my to-do list along with the Kelso! I need more hours in the day and more energy so I can train/work more, LOL.

Great question - if you’re not tackling CrossFit-style sessions, then I’d probably go Zelen because it is a better looking model (relatively speaking) and they feel a tad better for sprints. However, I don’t think you can go wrong with either model, tbh, so if the price point and colorways/appearance of the 360 are a hit for you then those will work well also 💪

@@thatfitfriend Thanks Jake. When you say CrossFit-style sessions, may I know exactly what you were referring to? My typical lifting sessions usually end of some hiit/cardio like rope jumps, box jumps and sometimes burpees/mountain climbers etc. Lifting wise, I tend to do more compound lifts. I see that you try to reply to the comments. Really appreciative of your efforts. Hope your channel takes off because the content is just *chef's kiss*

@@qilqilqil8863 sessions that involve things like rope climbs/handstand push-ups/burpees pretty regularly. These are movements that can wreck uppers and are more focused on this style of training so I try to differentiate standard cross-training from CrossFit per niche exercises like this at volume (for context)! In that case and your context, you should be safe with either model. I think the 360 will be a tad more durable, but the toe box in the Zelen should hold up well for you if you’re not hammering the upper on this model every day. Thank you so much - honestly, replying and getting to meet/interact with folks - even if it’s just briefly - makes it all worth it. I get to meet folks with similar interests who also don’t want to waste money on poor fitting products, it’s so cool, the community makes the channel fun! I really appreciate you saying that 💪

Similar toe box width overall (Zelen does feel a bit roomier due to upper) - if you want, shoot me a DM on IG and I’ll send you a sizing side by side vid! Also, low-key envious of you hot feet - could use them on my hikes 😂

Similar fit and the Zelen breathes better, IMO! Prob my fave Xero model to date tbh.

Vivo and splay both run a little large. Vivo is notorious for it, tbh

@@thatfitfriend thanks for your reply. I agree with your point about the vivos

Potentially - IMO, this is a better model for running if we're going to compare those two!

Yeah and half the cost too

@@hansyali_ big facts - especially if you can find them on sale!

Slightly wider fit, better breathability, and better looking, IMO!

@@thatfitfriend thanks would you recommend the Zelens over the primus lite iiis for road running and gym work?

🤔 can you let you try them during our next PT session!

@@thatfitfriend let’s do it!

Both can work. HFS 2 will give you a bit more cushion, though, if you're newer to barefoot shoes! They'll give you a longer runway of protection

Ahhh so maybe the HSF2 would be a better shoe option for me you think?

@@DanielleDunn-c9m I’d start there! Amazon has them so you can return easily if you need, too!

I'm actually being given a pair so was deciding which to get altogether.....but would like to run and lift in the them

@@DanielleDunn-c9m nice! I’d start with them then. I wouldn’t overthink it, trial and error when you’re starting is inevitable

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