@Molly Thank you Molly. I enjoy making the videos. Sure, I get some rules details incorrect sometimes but they do give you a good overview.

Yeah, it's a great little game. The only thing that stumps me is why a '2 player' game has not been designed along the lines of this one. I had started the project some years ago but got side tracked.

@@XLEGION1 Agreed. I don't really know of another "Grand Strategy" for U-boats let alone a 2-player one. Board games like these are almost an "underground" hobby now anyway with the advent of all the computer games. One of my favorite things to do is convert these games to a pseudo-miniature game to add some visual interest not to mention declining eyesight, etc. For example, I converted AH's "Devils Den" (and the virtually unknown companion game "Iron Brigade") to pieces with 6mm ACW figs on an enlarged map of the game. I did have fun researching RAF Coastal Command and US recon/ASW bases in Newfoundland, Greenland, Iceland, and GB. There actually was a U-boat (U-570) that surrendered (and captured) - TO A PLANE (and then fought as the HMS Graph). What a miserable job that sounded like. Planes in 1/1200 are available from Cap Aero (and u-boats and merchants from Figurehead). They even make Hudson's and Fairey Battles and many others crappy planes Coastal Command got stuck with until the Liberator and PBY became available. I think I might explode the map and mount the pieces on some modified blocks. The "Wolfpack" game I'm getting is unpunched so I don't have the heart to mess with the counters. Maybe I'll send ya a pic when it's done.

Yes! It's too bad this game and the ones you mentioned, are long forgotten. As soon as I finish up my current project (War for America) I think I will tackle this subject.

@@XLEGION1 that would be so fantastic...ok.. i will wait and see what you come up with, till then I am going to try to simplify the former into a solitaire game.. reason... it is so difficult to live in distance with another WarGamer. Seems to me.. a solitaire design is needed

Whats war for America about?

@@@jeanthemilitaryhistorianbr1243 It is my version of the "American Revolution". Seen more from the British point of view and how it became a world conflict for them. Also, how the Caribbean became the main theatre rather than the 13 Colonies once the French were in.

Patience is the key. If you need everything now, you may find them, but will likely pay a lot for them. Diligent searches will located games that people just was to get rid of. Maybe they've been sitting on a shelf for years and years or whatever. eBay can be a good source as can the Geekmarket on boardgamegeek.com. I don't think there are more than 5 'vintage' games I've paid more than $45 dollars for in my collection.

If that is the one from GMT with the blocks, large counters, circular counters etc...I couldn't get into it.

No, I don't think so. I'm not a great fan of solitaire games and as a video I'm not sure how interesting it would be. The game is really a set of 'procedures' and rolling dice on a Table. Not too interesting to look at. I long for the day when some designer would do a 2 player game on the U-Boat Campaign in the Atlantic.

Sorry, I don't own those games and don't have much interest in the topic.

Oh. Theres actually this other game simply called "U-BOOT". Its similar to avalon hills B-17 Queen of the skies, having 4 people command a type IX U-boat. One very cool thing is they have this 3-d U-boat model with plastic crewmen you need to move around. Are you mostly interested in the American revolution, civil war and Napoleonic wars? Theres one game that goes by the name of "victory and glory. Napoleon", and the game looks absolutely gorgeous. See for yourself.

@@@jeanthemilitaryhistorianbr1243 I saw that game at WBC a few weeks ago. Very cool looking. A little too 'tactical' for me but it looked like a lot of fun. Yes, my primary war game interests are: American Civil War, American Revolution, War of 1812, Nearly all naval history, Napoleonic and the Seven Years War period. I'm not familiar with "Victory and Glory Napoelon". I will have to check that one out.

It has these maps of battles like Austerlits, Waterloo and Borodino. It seems to be posters for youre wall. Im usually not into tactical wargames. I prefer playing out the entire war rather than just a single battle. Other than wargaming, what other hobbies do you have?

(had to write a new comment. For whatever reason the edit button wasn't working) The map looks gigantic. The other gigantic maps i own are the 2005 reprint of conquest of the empire and Axis and allies global 1940. Unfortunately the only table big enough to accomodate that leviathan is the dining room and my cat, Lucy likes to lay on there.

Mm.m.m.m.m...There's just not enough there for me. Too simple.

Hey Anders, thanks for the link on "Vector Movement". Yes, I'm very aware of AH "Submarine" a favourite of mine for years, I even had the original battleline version. But overall though, a 2 player game on this subject seems to be largely avoided in our hobby, at least on the strategic scale it is.