Sad but true...hope you can get new copies ...if not elsewhere , then from Kitee.

well. that wasn't too smart

WT *actual* F were you thinking? :o!!!!!! np, love makes fools, kills, etc. ;) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZNdibFnzbK2cYk.html

I would never do that

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I'm Russian sorry for my English but it's cool I like to listen to cool buzz sorry I live in Russia

@@ZillaKamiFTP why are you sorry to be from russia?

i'd be curious to hear Floor on this however

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@@darkbluewaltherno!! she’d ruin it. Best left to the original expert. Only Tarja can do justice to this song.

Ocean born is legit my fave Nightwish album

My favorite from Nightwish too. I don`t usually listen much Nightwish, but when I found this song, this became immediately my number one from them.

Arguably one of their best songs. Sounds so great Live too. Never get bored listening to it, even after 25years.

especially, not today..the way Floor sings everything so conventionally....

Indeed

wish they can do a beauty of the beast live

@@ksiyuen9039 she did do it with Tony Kakko

astounding..is not she..and now she uses that voice and many others seamlessly

Totally agree!

Nightwish @ Ilosaarirock 2018 - Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean (feat Tapio Wilska) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ib6WqNipxpjQkYk.html

Interestingly I came to the same conclusion couple years ago.

This song seems to have just about everything. Incredibly it was one of their earlier songs. Seemed way ahead of its time. So much energy and power.

Who is he?

Tapio Wilska

Oh Thats wrong they played the Song often Look at KZfaq it was a standart Song at the wishmaster tuor and ocenborn tuor : )

Soundzone he means they won't do it anymore. Now. With Floor or whoever

They played it today :)

When Tuomas learnes to grawl lol

Here is another 2018 song kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bax5atafnse5inU.html

You nail this idea just right ; )

You get it

i know..still astounds me ..she was barely half way through her classical training, at the time

She wasn’t even in her prime either, like when floor joined. And still sounded far better and brilliant.

Yeah, it is played in the double harmonic minor key if i'm not wrong

@@icommitedwarcrimes4879 C phrygian dominant

Totally agree...

Freddy Mercury tops all

Nightwish @ Ilosaarirock 2018 - Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean (feat Tapio Wilska) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ib6WqNipxpjQkYk.html

Right.

same here 🤘

Watching this March 2020

Me too in 2020...and still hyper Super.

March 2020

July 2020

im trying to find a more loud version than this

Right !

mine, as well...no wonder NW wont even try to include such a vocally demanding song in their setlist

Best moment of the song

Ms. Jansen actually can sing them too - she can sing operatically, but the band does not want her to.

Ms. Jansen's head voice is weak in comparison to Tarja and her classical style singing is inferior. That's why she sings the way she does using mostly her chest voice. It's also why tuomas writes the music that way now and why he doesn't want her to sing that way. tuomas would love for Floor to be able to sing songs like this one or Phantom of the Opera as good as or better than Tarja, because it would be his way of showing everyone that Tarja wasn't so special. The problem is Tarja is special and Floor simply doesn't have the powerful head voice Tarja does. So, if Floor sang songs like this one or Phantom of the Opera it would suck in comparison to Tarja's versions and that would chafe tuomas bung hole even more. So, his excuse to save face and avoid chaffing of the bung hole, is that "he doesn't want that anymore". Check out Tarja's Supremacy cover from Hellfest and the crazy high notes she hits with her powerful head voice. Floor simply cannot sing like that.

I couldn't agree more. As for the energy that Jansen shows - it exists, but it is not the type of energy that I enjoy. I need darkness, mystery, beauty and bliss, oscillations within the voice.

I so agree with this. I think a good example is Stargazers, imho.

Marijana Stargazers is an EPIC song!

I wonder who would win an arm-wrestling match between Tapio and Floor. I really can't make up my mind, lol :P

+Hamster Munchies I love Floor ... but her growls are just a catastrophe .... awful... I'm sorry .. Tapio is a professional... Floor is like trying... she likes to do all things ... but I find better to be excellent in one thing than be good in many ... Her growls sounds terrible... nothing like music ... you wanna hear good growls ? Alissa White Gluz :) that sounds beautiful

Tapio was great at stuff like this. He has the perfect voice for it. This was one of the downsides of Marco coming into the band. When he replaced Sami tuomas looked to him to be a jack of all trades and take over duties like this so they didn't need "guest vocalist" like this for special roles. I guess that was probably a lot more practical for them and probably saved them some money, but It feels like a compromise to me.

+Stefan L They actually did perform this song during the World Tour of the Century (the first tour with Marco) and Tapio still performed the vocals for this perticular song. Though Marco kinda ruined 10th Man Down for me.

Tapio >>>> Marco.

Because it's the studio one cut under the clip? :) Or it just that good? :D

Just that good :)

Marcus Abrahamson I prefer the live version because Tapio growls. In the studio he practically just talks.

I think it's even better!

no , Tarjas voice in Live much better

MrPetzold123 oh yeah I would like to hear floor on Gethsemane

You'll probably hear Gethsemane during upcming tour.

she sang dead boy's poem, and honestly personally I hate it, it has nothing to do with the original, she defiled it

She sang a few of them in the past years. Check out the videos at Tampere in the recent years. Stargazers, Gethsemane, Sleeping Sun included

She ruins them all. Best left to the expert and the original.

If you compare it with Marco,he is just mediocre....

@@pobesnelikrastavac1 lol what?? 😂

@@haidarsyarifuddin5004 Marco is much better bass player,not to mention a singer.....

@@pobesnelikrastavac1 Good vocal and better bass tone, yes. Pure playing skill standpoint, he doesn't make Sami looks mediocre. Your comment make Marco seems like an elite bassist. I, however would like it, if you can show some footage of Marco playing bass with various techniques and tempo if it prove your argument. Because a few videos I could find don't indicate he is any special. I'm not here to defend Sami. I'm open to facts.

@@haidarsyarifuddin5004 Best bass player from nightwish was emppu ;) hahah

Tarja army , here