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It's the public who didn't want them anymore ...

Which model?

@@shackleton274 ba

@@joepowell7025 it's the price of manufacturing? The public loved the Commodores and falcons..

That’s it eh! I love em both even more now

Same but I agree completely with ur comment

Us kiwis roll around in skylines and shit on both those cars

@@jacquelhigginz4496 nah mate a barra 325 turbo with overboost up to 480 horsepower and just regularly making 436 hp would flog ur 90s Nissan unless u have got something more modern unless u mean a Gtr u might be have a chance but yea I love all three of these cars so no hate btw

Aussie cars *ruled.

It’s funny you say that as I have owned and love both but the Ford definitely feels more smooth and planted on rougher country roads in my honest opinion

Yeah that’s why the bush is filled with old commies and all the Ef au etc are gone

@@costagiourtis2531 nah mate, they’re still running around the farm watching the dunny doors rust. Thats why you don’t see them in the bush.

The Ford would last longer, the commodore will out perform the Ford on a track day, the under steer in a falcon is terrible due to the long cast engine over hanging the front, same goes for turbo vs v8, driven and seen it constantly on Qld raceway

@@paulmcintosh5589 the Holden’s usually do much better due to much larger tyres. As far as the engine is concerned they are in exactly the same position as the Holden’s. The 5.4 modular v8 being iron block and with quad overhead cams sits higher raising its centre of gravity so they went to the Miami 5.0 all alloy and lowered its centre of gravity. As far as the rear tyres, fords rear suspension did not allow wider tyres for the rear. That’s what the R/spec did. A slight change to the rear suspension allowed slightly wider tyres but still nowhere near as wide as the commodores. With stiffer suspension and wider tyres and with an old pushrod v8 with a lower centre of gravity, the commodore handles slightly better but has to give ground to the better aero of the Ford.

You have to blame the Abbott government, they stopped all subsidies for car manufacturing in Australia because it was uneconomic but then dropped the Australian dollar from $1.10 US to $0.70 US making it economical to manufacture here but by then the companies had gone. What is really stupid is that with the supply of Lithium that Australia has for batteries it will now be shipped overseas, not trying to blame the Libs as Labor are just as bad very very shortsighted.

@@bbkingwasthegreatest711 ypu can blame all the b#tches that prefer to buy those rubbish european cars and jeeps instead of home made quality. Now they would rather spend 100k on bmw or mercs and then they find out the pain of fixing them over and over and the cost for even second hand parts are expensive and have to be imported in. But Australians rubbished our own thinking they were less class. How fake Australia has become.

@@bbkingwasthegreatest711 well when we sit on a massive supply of coal and uranium it makes any government fucken short sighted at least Labor as less pork barrelling and corruption

They were good aussie cars but they died because they just flogged rebaged crap like the craptiva and others.

Well au is older 😂

Yep, & when that Alloytec throws a chain & bends all the valves, just grab the Intech outta your AU & chuck that in 👍

@@lancecooper4646 he literally said it was an LFX lol, the timing chain issue plagued alloytech was phased out after series 1

@@lznrmi ohhhhh so they've gotta twin row roller chain in em like the Intech ?? That's good to know thanx 👍

change the oil every 5000kms, The issue is with the PCV valve and the timing chain was just a symptom.

cheers marty! glad you enjoyed it.. both are def aussie legends and equally great :)

Totally agree. The 'premium' badge shouldn't fool anyone either; we don't get the same cars that Europe gets. BMW 3 series? Built in South Africa. Mercedes C class? Built in South Africa. The Audi A4? China or India, depending on where you are. I have no problem buying a car built in any one of those fine countries, but I do have a problem with paying a "Made in Germany" price for it. Give me a built-in-Australia Falcon or Commodore any day of the week for $$$$$ less. How much of a chump would you feel to hand over $70k + for a bog standard 3 series, then find out it was built in South Africa? I grew up in the UK, where German cars are everywhere. I've had a couple of Golf GTis, M3s, fast Audis, and a Porsche Boxster S. Never had a Merc, because they are so fucking unreliable. I now have a late model BF XR8, and it is the perfect car for Australia. Sorry, Yuppies and soccer mums. You can keep your German badge snobbery.

@@themancuniancandidate2744 I’ve owned V8 Commodores (WN,WM2 Caprice, VE SSV/SS wagon, VE Calais V V8, etc) and I currently a 2011 BMW 323i E90 LCI that was built in South Africa. The quality is far superior to any Commodore I owned and is better than the quality of the BMW/Mercs/Audis of today. Nothing has fallen apart and everything is still in tack and all the parts are still like new. The Mexican built cars like the Equinox/Q5 don’t seem great though from what I’ve seen.

@@marnuscoreyempanadaslooseb6760 as I said, I have no issue with buying a South African built car. My wife is South African so it’s not like I have a problem with the place. I just object to paying a made in Germany price for it

Yea cheap plastics have wrecked most of the more modern Australian cars

Thank you 🙏

Definitely helps eh! Thanks for the tips brother.. still got lots to work on tho😅

Amen brother 🇦🇺

Thanks for sharing

The interiors being better varies from model to model. AU interior is better made than the VT, BA interior beats out VY but it's personal opinion for the VE vs FG. The late model Falcons especially feel it in the interior. Compare a FG-X to a VF and it's a night and day difference. I personally don't like anything about the VE though from looks to interior

@@liltamai I've got an AU XR8 ute. One of the reasons I went older was for the interior. And also the Windsor engine. All I see is 'taxi' in the BA and FG interiors. 😆

@@liltamai especially the VE handbrake lever

@@allan-shephard the BA interior is one of the worst interiors in a falcon for sure. I work on at least 5 cars a day and so many of the BA's have the handle on the interior door ripped off. The FG is okay I recon, seating position is the worst out of all Falcons made though. The seats way too high up so it feels like driving a truck and the steering wheel doesnt telescope high enough to stop me hitting my hands on my knees at full lock. AU'S are my favourite driving falcon for sure, especially the IRS models with a manual. The seating position is great and the handling is precise but not overly sporty and rough

@@rwd323 every time I pull a VE handbreak lever I cringe inside a little at how much the plastic creaks. It's such a terrible design all round. What makes it worse is how much force you have to use to pull it up or put it down, making the horrid plastic sounds even worse. I swear Holden made it as bad as possible on purpose

Rip Aussie cars🥲🇦🇺

Honestly sad aye. Other countries government help our there car manufacturers when they were in need. Holden was struggling so gm pulled the plug and what did the aus government do....0.

The problem goes back to the late 90's. Federal, state and local governments fell for the global warming bulldust and started buying four cylinder vehicles that were not made in Australia. In the 70's, 80's and 90's, the biggest fleet buyers for Ford and Holden was the government. After 2000, the governments in Australia reduced the number of Australian vehicle purchases to the point of zero. This is what killed off Commodore and Falcon. Ford and General Motors looked at the lack of sales and it wasn't economical to continue producing vehicles that were selling such small numbers. If the sales were still strong, then we would still have a car industry in Australia.

Thanks mate 😁 more to come

thanks Sam more on the way

Misinformed perhaps?

@@scorpiuswireless1 they usually lead the way I think we can all agree

@@reeceeyles9924 Lead the way?? The Holden Commodore still ran ONLY pushrod engines all the way up to the early 2000's 🤣. It's only ohc engine was the RB30 Nissan motor. This coming from a SS owner too..

@@darianistead2239 I don’t think they lead the way when it comes to engineering, but when it comes to sales and racing, yeah, they were usually one step ahead.

@@reeceeyles9924 Sales yeah, racing not at all. Neither cars in race form resembles their production counterpart

I have a LFX ve, one of the best cars I have ever owned mo issues and currently at 189,000kms

Holden guys will cry too much coz its "not fair" that one has forced induction 🤣🤣

@@kers225abk2 haha yes true that , even though they both have almost the exact same KW & Torque figures lol

@@evil2rs Forced induction will always beat an na at the same power and including ford understating their power, you already know what the result is.

Just do a comparison on the VE SS and the FG XR8. That way no-one can complain about NA/Forced induction.

on paper the XR6 turbo is faster..... BUT dose not have that V8 roar

Thanks mate! Sorry I’ve been away for a while.. will be back at it hard very soon

Cheers Nolsey mate

It is such a shame eh🇦🇺🥲 I was surprised the ZF didn’t match the 6.5 as the sv6 but to be fair I tried multiple times 😅

Economic globalism killed them off.....expecting a country that pays their workers a decent wage to compete with countries that pay workers sweet FA.

@@RossReviewsau Purely your chosen roads, big downhill slope for the sv6 and the FG had to go uphill 1% grade. On flat road they'd be very close, I'd still say the sv6 with it's 210kw would have the win but.

they love it bro

AUSDM 😤🫶

Nah the SIDI LLT still had timing chain stuff. The SIDI LFX is where it had no issues but still has the carbon build up and faulty PCV valve as a result of being a direct injection engine. Still love my sv6 tho :)

Yup both are great 👍

Thanks man😆

100%🇦🇺🥲

Wife must’ve had the early VE sv6’s. Respectfully they are dog arse compared to the late model series 2.

I have a zf bf with 3.23 gears out of a btr bf and can confirm even na they go very hard with just a better diff gear ratio. With the diff, catback, cat and a tune gets vf’s by 2-3 car lengths and keeps pullin

@@mitchelltodd8089 I'm putting 3.23/3.27's in my G6E soon. Just gotta find a good donor LSD diff to get rebuilt. Because i know how hard they pull with much better gearing yet still uses similar fuel on the freeway.

If they are not looked after all cars can be that way

Fair but the Falcon’s weigh bout 55KG more if u compare both in sedan spec with Auto transmissions so it’s really a pick em’, dynamically Holden’s got way more advanced ride and handling and had far more advancements engineering wise over the last few gen’s before they where killed off so it’s really a question of do u want a Barra ? Or a Better car ?

Pretty much summed up👍

Ummm a wins a win. Ford lost. As always.

Hey my 2012 sv6 goes 0-100 in 7.5 seconds is this ok? shouldn't it be getting there in 6.5 like the one in the video? its auto and was filled with unleaded 91 at the time

@@rileyjohnson5997 6.5-6.7 seconds is the claimed 0-100km. If you used 98 could do the trick + good tires.

@@pu4e1 i really hope so, i even tho it means nothing, ive been overthinking this and thinking something is wrong with the car, has 90k kms on it and bought it last week

@@rileyjohnson5997 its absolutely fine by the sound of it, but hows the economy? Did you get your mechanic to check it over pre purchase?

@@pu4e1 They went through a series of safety checks and went in for a service the day I bought it so I would assume so'

Thanks mate! Always love having you out for a video!

😂😂😂

they are great cars! gotta love both

Agreed I think

i agree lmao

only GMH engine that snapped timing chains was the alloytec which was only used in the vz/vy's and 06 to 08 ve's to my knowledge

Your right actually I wasn’t aware this has the LFX actually.. late mode VEs did get them I guess

When it comes to V8s the SC Miami is the top dog

How ya going mate🇦🇺🤠

I was really impressed with her eh

Flynn Ferguson any engine is really good if you keep up the maintenance.💯✌️

I’m surprised mine lasted that long 😂. She’s been a highway car most of her life, so less stop-start I guess.

Nolathane bushes, do it once and they last forever, albeit a little stiffer ride,👍

thanks mate! gonna keep it going :)

Why

@@Flying_GC Why not

Agreed lol.. waiting to test one of them still eh

Yep, I had an Aurion Presara before I changed to an XR6 and that thing felt so effortless. The interior was gorgeous too. Even though the Aurions are FWD I still find myself browsing for them on carsales 😅

@@jonathanhead4105 My brother bought one of the last in 2017. Its noticeably quicker than my 380. That V6 spins like a Swiss watch.

good man!

They are great cars eh

What transmission is in it? The 5 speed?

@@rwd323 6 speed man

Yeah, 0-100 in 6.5 for an SV6 is awfully quick.

@@alstound Yeah i'd have to agree, i've got a 2011 SV6 VE and my times are usually in the 7s range and that's with Michelin pilot sport 4S on

I did do this test multiple times with the same outcome…

@@RossReviewsau on the same stretch of road? Just saying the draggy result isn't valid and the slope favours the sv6.

Fair call for sure bro

Legend! Love my BF Typhoon!

i couldn't find a sedan! was looking for months

The V6 Aurions are surprisingly quick, but do weigh a lot less than both the falcon and commodores

The auction has less power loss through the drive train , being front wheel drive , and a little lighter

Thanks brother

thanks brotha

Between BF2 and FGX turbos are actually very reliable. Haven't heard Of any major issues from people I know. It's the whole point of why they are such a popular engine conversion cheap, reliable and powerful. Lol even the gas motors can cop a turbo slapped on with taking big power numbers with a basic top end build.

@@nicholastsagaris3998 the engine itself yes, mostly everything else not so much. That was my experience with most of the Falcons I owned.

You and me both!

Thanks mate

Thanks mate! Up the Fords

Always liked the ED, especially in XR form

Wow 👏👏👏

@@RossReviewsau just pokin fun bruv..

I’d always go the barra over a sv6

Oh my days man , not all the alloytech v6’s had issues. Only the earlier ones. The LFX only had oil burning issues that’s all, timing chain fuckery was gone with that engine which is why they kept it in the VF

Very true eh🥲🇦🇺

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Thanks mate In the running

That sounds like a wicked project bro!

@@RossReviewsau cheers, hopefully one day you can come to Darwin, and come for a ride, maybe even do a review, would top of my day

Go for it man!

Go for it!

they both are amazing machines at the end of the day, both do somethings better than others.. it was a great rivalry :)

Thanks for sharing! good stuff n nice trade ;)

Thanks for watching 😁