Lmfao

Chinese manufacturing isn't that bad after all

Exactly. I’d rather break or lose the knock off and buy another one rather than the real deal.

I can imagine him standing there just PRAYING for that knife to fail

I bought an Atomic Defender, a Titan, and a Lightning Elite for under $100 total. I've carried and used all of them for 1+ year as EDCs for work, in which I use them for opening tons of boxes and mail. I also fidget with them constantly. They have all had thousands of deployments and retractions, and they all still work just as well now as when I bought them. I will never buy another Microtech. They are simply a waste of money for ego and brand. I understand the FEELING and EMOTION of exclusive tribalism when you buy a super overpriced name brand thing like a Microtech, but I also have enough experience to understand that spending 5x the amount on a name brand buys you nothing except that name brand and the bragging rights for having spent a lot of money on it. Want a D/A OTF that functions fine for years with a lot of daily use? You're gonna be perfectly satisfied with a "budget" option like Lightning, Titan, Atomic, or AKC.

After the hammer & 2x4 with d Microtech…. Me: SOLD!!! I’m getting the clone. 😂

Was….. was it real?

so your gonna support china? I think it would be better to do without if you can't afford the real thing, you would be nothing short of a trader

@@dannynimmo3052 so you don't buy ANY Chinese products?? Highly doubt that

@@dannynimmo3052 Then America better step up its game. That’s capitalism.

Maybe black ops is just smarter with his money into spend the same amount of money for a small knife then you could buy a new Glock for.

@@montanaplease understandable but we are at war with China I think I'd do with out rather than contribute to their economy

smileydogg24 of course not. The point is to stress it until it fails to discover the actual limits of the blade for a comparison to an authentic blade.

smileydogg24 exactly that’s why we are here to watch him do it for us. By the way thank you buddy, I appreciate you subjecting your gear to these tests for science

Wouldn't do any of those things to any pocket knife that wasn't a fixed blade

That's what the word TORTURE means.

Lol nope !

its slave labor

@@Pillowpetlover - Everybody's a slave to something or someone else. After all, how many people REALLY hate their job, but don't leave it because they feel like they can't? Believe me, nobody works for somebody else because they want to. They do it because they have to if they want to survive.

That cheap steal will really show after a couple hundred thousand clicks. My ultratech has been abused daily working in construction and its battered and beat but fires everytime

@@guarddog318 yeah they do overcharge, benchmade and spyderco overcharge as well, but with my spyderco knives, I know I have quality steel with a good heat treat that noticeably outperforms cheap knives, and they pay their workers a living wage. I'm willing to pay their prices to support them and keep them in business. Yes, I could get by just fine on a cheap clone, but I like quality, and I like supporting American businesses that treat their workers well.

Only boys play w there knives...in safe, out kill....

How so? One broke the microtech survived .

@@mattmorrison9379 One's about $50, the other over $300. There's a 600% difference in price, and the cheap one performs nearly as well as the expensive one. It "failed" when induced to stress no reasonable person would be subjecting their knife to (hammering it through a 2x4). If the cheapo would spend a few bucks more on better raw steel, it probably would have passed that test too.

@@heathwasson7811 fair enough, personally I like having a real one it definitely feels better than some clones I've held but hey to each their own it's all good.:)

It's amazing the amount of money you can save on production when you steal someone else's R&D, use cheaper materials, skimp on QC, don't offer a warranty, and probably don't pay your employees a fair wage.

@@blc628 Yeah, no shit. Everyone's fully aware of that. Like we don't know the reason one can sell for $50 and the other for $300? Glad you came around to straighten everyone out on that. Feel good about yourself now that you had the chance to dazzle everyone with your stunning economical analysis?

LOL! I’m usually the guy giving away knives😂.

Where you do giveaways? I got so much money in microtech would love to win one!!! Can send pictures for proof with the boxes lol!

@@knifeaddict1014 he's probably talking about lending knives to people

No, I give them away all the time on my channel.

@@XRING Awesome! I subbed and I'll keep an eye out for a give away, I'll check out some of your other videos latter when I'm bored.

I agree..... That knife took a good beating lol

Exactly my thoughts. Bought a good replica a couple days ago, the happiest I've ever been with a new knife (my first otf knife as well).

Made me a believer, I mean I have a hatchet that clone is not going to work that hard in my world

Absolutely. Who the heck is using an OTF to chop a plank in half?

Naw, no way! Fail when you least expect it! Real McCoy only please! 🤣

Wish has crash deals on them for 3 bucks. I get them just to use not to sell

I'd never even thought of doing something like that to a knife.

@@Shooters141 maybe with a fixed blade or a very sturdy folder like an extrema ratio rao or a coldsteel sr1, definetly not with ANY otf

Bc they are not knockoffs...all the shit is made in China..so the "knockoffs" are not knockoffs at all..u just getting it at a cheaper price due to where u buy from..wish has knifes that are exactly the same..300 here under 100 from wish..n halg the shit made in usa is a lie anyway..its ridiculous..all for a selling point..but yea its not a knockoff mate..same same

Fo u rem where u got it? I wld like to get a clone for work abuse.

The one I just ordered yesterday from here: www.dhgate.com/product/red-blue-orange-handle-mt-automatic-knife/480677414.html?f=edm|auto|auto_shipping_2017|browse1|20200422 says that it's D2 blade steel. I'm kinda doubting that but I'll see when it gets here. If it's hard to sharpen then you know. I'm basically buying this as a toy. Are people(soldiers) really taking these to war? I doubt it. More likely a fixed blade of some kind. I saw the Vespas on this site but I know nothing about them.

James B microtechs are made in the US. Not fucking China

Hey Jay just bc it says that doesnt mean it is...every single part was made in China..gets assembled here....MADE IN USA...Yayyy

can still get them pretty easily lol

Leave her there!

Actually any flee market that as people selling knives got em under the counter everywhere in Canada , quebec Montreal etc..if you ask discretly and calmly , the person will show you his under the counter goodies like otf's , butterfly knives, brass knuckles , tazers , chinese stars and if your lucky one or two revolvers 😁 eh eh eh

Remember something it's only illegal if you get caught with it respect it and live to love it

@BrutalJuice I just got my Vespa wasp from dhgate it's a Microtech Troodon clone it was $160 and the Precision Machining and everything about the knife is beautiful you won't be disappointed and yes you will receive in the mail no questions asked

Men like him are what made this country great .🇺🇸

Name? I'll give him some business!

The labor is what's expensive.

No this will only cheaper their brand.

You are spot-on, Counterfeiting is despicable to me! The world would be a truly amazing place if it was full of people like you! Where do I buy one of your knifes?

@@chrisdonnelly5904 Thank you so much for your kind words mr Donnelly. I am very humbled to hear that you would take interest in my knives. Unfortunately i dont have something available at this moment because i only do it part time, and because i still in the beginning of my carrier it takes quite a while before a complete a full knife and most sell out really fast. Faster that i can make them. But here instagram.com/parissis_works you can see a very small sample of my work since the instagram account is very recent. But i am planning on posting more of my work there and in a more regular basis. So if you like something you can contact me directly. I have a geat passion for cutlery and I currently do it because i love it and there is nothing else i love more, not to make money. I am trying to do the best job i can with the equipment and the skill i have. And hopefully become, someday, one of the more popular designers in the industry! Thank you again sir and have wonderful holidays. Btw my comment did not have any intension of promoting myself. I was just saying what was on my head!

Is t byrd like spyderco brother or something tho and he just left to do his own thing?

спрос - рождает предложение. Китай не победить :) они могут сделать даже лучше оригинала если им достаточно заплатить за работу - пример подделки Shirogorov

Lmao that's normal pricing for a top quality knife check out bladehq and youll find knives way more expensive

People say that to me all the time! They also have 20 pairs of $100+ shoes, $900 cellphones, and credit card debt...Fun part about being an adult is spending money on shit YOU like :D

Eatsoup3 this is a very underrated reply that I couldn’t agree more with

@@Eatsoup3 Wow, very well said sir.

I agree 100% . The mark up is crazy on knives and I’m in the machining business

What I was thinking

No clue what steel they use in them but I've seen friends clones that are spot on and some even better feeling and looking than some of my older factory knives lol

Not bad?!that shit broke in two minutes!

Yea who the fuck uses their knife as a nail.

Mr. Hammer ! 😂

Right. And if you had to you can sell your knife.

At least you can recoup your investment.

Your exactly right! But they will tell you that 20 more dollars in the machine is going to hit the big one, I worked in a store for 7 years that sold lotto tickets, The House Always Wins

You mean 'had' friends? 😉

You are an inspiration!!! Excellent!

Awesome Austin. As long as you maintain it regularly with Aerosol Rem oil you will be good to go!

@@XRING will do thank you im get a combat troodon next

True, I now work for Microtech as of January. How does that break the internal lock on the counterfeit knife. 🤷‍♂️

Some of his tests were before he even worked there. Biased or not it doesnt take a genius to see the chinesium specials are nowhere close in quality

@@XRING Its doesn't break anything on the counterfeit knife but it sure as shit guaranteed you didn't perform the full spectrum of tests on the microtech that you did on the fake. Microtechs are cool and kinda fancy and everybody gets the whole gimmick but you could've done a fair test. You didn't. Pretty simple.

Solidus Lives You need to watch the full tests I did on all of the Microtechs.

Real microtech knives are well worth the money. I bought a knock off just to scratch the itch of wanting one and was immediately disappointed with the quality and reliability. I dug down deep in my pocket and bought the utx 85. When I received the knife I was worried I was going to regret spending that much money on a pocket knife. It was hard to see the value until I had it in my hand. I work in machining so I can appreciate the value of a real microtech. My utx and I have been inseparable since I bought it. I have actually had five people go out and buy one as a gift for someone after handling mine. I recommend them to people all the time. They are truly amazing knives and a must have for any one who is into hunting, EDC, and or collecting. Hell I've seen people who don't care for any of those things end up wanting one after handling mine. I am in no way affiliated with microtech or anyone for that matter. Save up and get the real thing. You won't regret it. Most people I see on KZfaq have five or six decent quality knock offs. At fifty dollars or more a pop that is more than enough money to go out and get a full size ultratech. Another thing people forget about when scoffing at the price of a microtech is that when you buy the knife it is basically a piggy bank. You barely lose any money if you decide to sell one and if you get a rare color, blade, and hardware combination you can actually gain money in the long run. Buying a microtech is a good as buying any high end fire arm. It holds it's value and is worth being seen as an investment rather than a spontaneous purchase. Anyhow, I'm done. ✌️

then buy an affordable knife so you can actually use it..

😂😂😂

in europe is over 460euros... i better use a mora for batoning. and is 10 euros, dirty cheap and original.

Get a Benchmade OTF.

Apparently there are a few sites selling entire replacement blades for these clones for cheap too now

Thanks and it’s all good Hoot. I will continue releasing videos on this channel as well.

The glass breaker on the clone can be removed by inserting something through the holes and unscrewing. The clip can be reversed but is held in by glass breaker. I replaced my glass breaker with a M8 screw cap for .53 at my local hardware store.

will hicks because no one is willing to do that with a real one?

Thank you for your service. I appreciate that you understand that knock-offs sometimes have their place. I’m a broke college kid and can’t afford to be carrying a 250+ knife. if an unbranded knockoff is what i can afford and it’s reliable then so be it.

I got sucked in on the knife buying from watching Nutnfancy videos and since then the market has just shot upwards with apparently no end in sight. I find it ridiculous too. You can buy several guns or even a used car for what some of these high-end knives are going for now. I have like 35 now, but only a few were more than $50. After retiring I have little use for them now.

I have a utx85 clone/fake from DHgate the quality is absolutely top notch. The steel took a shaving sharp polished edge too.

@@YoungMulahBB No warranty though. Too bad.

Just not everything you might "need" it to.

@@MrMZaccone Yeah in the moment you take apart of Microtech you void your warranty so what's your point? I have my car tax I have old vintage rare ones I have a 85's and 70"s. I think the point that he was trying to make is with the knockoffs I can buy five of them for what I'm going to pay for one Microtech. And let's be honest I've never used the knife warranty in 42 years of carrying a knife. You don't this stupid crap with your knife you never need the warranty.

For 6x the price, the Microtech probably isn't worth it, for most people

Thanks Choirboyz! I appreciate it.

@me Me exact

james lordan save your money and buy a real one.

You don't only pay for the knife.. you pay for the quality and the life time warranty! Well worth it, I definitely save up for the real deal

I do understand that the real thing is going to be better but it is more than 10 x the price it’s crazy ! You can almost get a sebensa for that money (which is also expensive imo)

@@jameslordan3378 yeah that's why I don't own yet.. u do own a few benchmades and they are equally expensive but I love em to death. There's 2 knives I do want to get that I would hands down get before an micro tech which they are custom handmade knives by Lyle Bronkhourst, his starfighter pocket knife and his Damascus steel bowie fighting knife, which he does 90°bend tests on the spare blanks of the knives he makes to order to make sure they stand up to his standards and don't snap. The starfighter is 800$ and the bowie 1300 D: definitely check them/his work out! He has 40 years of knife making experience! images.app.goo.gl/ago7twK5KdXqcpG88 images.app.goo.gl/B1TrXybhvraeYJP98

It the UT and x-85 screws are the same as long as they are modern models. They will not fit the 70.

I love my lightning. Cheep enough for me to abuse and maybe lose it.

Yeah i gave mine away to a coworker because im a retard i used it pretty ruffly and it was fine

thats basically all anyone uses their $400 knives for too lol.

Hey Average Joe. I think it is their use of quality materials for all of their knives. Almost all of their internal parts are machined and not just stamped metal parts. Thanks for watching the channel. Stay safe and healthy.

Did the Halo ever arrive?

@@aznazguy sure did. Absolute perfection. No blade play whatsoever unlike the real ones and unlike the real ones it came with a tool to disassemble. I've fired it a couple hundred times and it's still holding up great. I

I would definitely wash it out after cutting anything acidic or sticky for the OTF knives. Apples come to mind quite often.

Thanks Teehan and thanks for watching and commenting . 👍🏼

Because everyone hammers their knives into a 2x4, amirite?

for starters dont let it get dull... buy a strop and some compound to put on one side of it and strop it the night after using it for example. its pretty easy to keep a sharp knife sharp but more difficult to resharpen it after letting it dull. worksharp sells from nice little hand sharpeners that would work. they sell a little guided field sharpener for 25 bucks and then they also sell a guided sharpener that pivots side to side as you sharpen that away its more forgiving if you dont angle the knife correctly while sharpening down to the end its around 50 bucks. worksharp also sells an automatic knife sharpener that plugs in for 50 bucks. Ive only used the field sharpener and its a nice little sharpener for 25 bucks. granted you may have to sort of freehand it if your knife isnt near the same angle as the guides. lanskys are also nice too and allow you to sharpen at more angles its also a good buy.

I predict you will be wasting a lot of your money re-buying things. Better to save up and buy once.

I have a utx clone from DHgate was 38. The quality is amazing. Fit and finish is amazing. Action is fast and solid. And blade took a shaving polished edge on my work sharp. Iv been beating on it and using it for everything and its held up great.

Only downside is no warrantee but there easy to strip down and work on if needed

Not that I condone buying clones but those Microtechs are way overpriced for what they are. It would be a cool knife at $125. Costs them prob $20 to make it.

They cost WAY more than that to make. I did the series on birth of an Ultratech on the channel. Really made me understand what all goes into them. Not justifying the price, just stating the facts. Thanks for watching.

Bald&curious Shady character wasn’t he? 😄

Not going to lie when I saw all that it could do I actually thought it was pretty sweet for the money and tbh for what most people would do with an otf knife it would be a much cooler and fun knife then something like a Lightning otf would be and around the same price.

Thanks Hugh

If you are a knife guy it might help you to know the plural is knives

Ders972 that’s your contribution to the discussion? To point out that I didn’t proof read my grammar? One might think that you went that route, because you had no other response to give? Lol. Thank you for policing the internet to make sure that everything is spelled correctly. Not all heroes wear capes.

The point people make about Microtech is that they claim the knife costs $10 to make (wrong) and they should sell them for $40. Now a China based company is making their own OTF knife but feel they need to charge $230 for it. Shouldn't they be able to make a quality OTF for $40? No one doubts that China CAN make a quality knife, but they are not making quality counterfeit knives for $40. Also, when it comes to counterfeits, it isn't in that company's best interest to make a knife that lasts, they rely on repeat business and know if you will buy one $40 knife you'll buy another when that one breaks... and another... and another. Eventually you'll have $300+ of broken counterfeits when you decide to buy one $280 Microtech and you'll finally find happiness.

@Kevin Exactly. Now, when at work, I make the extra effort to correct simple grammar or typos... but in the world of mobile and spotty autocorrect, I don't always catch it.

bill gates

People who can afford things

@@Excalibur01 I think you mean disposable income

He works for microtech I believe

@@darkanglesnip3r I bought a Halo 6 clone off of dhgate and brought it to one of my local Microtech dealers (Note I said dealer. Microtech is so proud of their shit is so expensive it has to be financed) (I'm all for quality and made in America but seriously Microtech. And they aren't the only ones) today. When I showed him the knife he could barely tell the difference between the two. It was only after he called Microtech to ask about serial number and ways to identify a fake. The fake Halo VI actually deploys more harder and smoother. Granted the steel and a few other things didn’t hold up over time but what average Joe uses an OTF that damn much. We all know that most of us have one for showing off and shit like that. If you want a hard heavy use folding knife then buy a frame, liner, or lock back like the rest of us do. Even those systems fail from shit like this. (Not everyone designs or tests their shit like Lynn Thompson) (No I do not work for Cold Steel. I prefer Kershaw and Boker, and Sypderco knives for EDC) First responders and Real world text all operators that use this on a daily basis or when their lives depend on it should go for it and buy the real deal. Still waiting for a Zero Tolerance OTF to come out. I bet it will put everyone else’s to shame.

Willard Scott Hello Willard, they have to have a little bit of blade play for clearance and some light debris. It does not worsen, even after the tests. The only OTF I am even aware of with zero play is the Deadlock. Those are easily over 1k. Thanks

@@XRING thank you for your reply. I have been wanting to upgrade my knife game. I have always had budget folders and been content. I like the idea of otf but don't know of anyone personally that owns a quality knife.

Here is some good news. I am doing a 2 part series on how to spot a Microtech fake. Look for it to drop next week on the Microtech Knives KZfaq channel.

I just got my first one, and I can tell you, it is absolutely astounding. You'll never regret it my friend.

Best way to spent your hard earn money.

I think the made in China might be a give away

You're totally right .

I have gotten some of the best knives I have seen in the $100-250 range on AliExpress and DHgate. Sure they are clones, but amazing knives. Got two Microtech Sigil clones that are just amazing. Got a Shirogorov RFT that is the sharpest I have ever seen a knife straight out of the box. Got a Shirogorov 110KS that is just a marvel of machining quality and smoothness. Got a Fischer Battle in damascus that blew my mind. There have been bad ones also, but fewer than the successes. I think the worst was a ZT 0777 where it is impossible to center the blade properly and still have it flip reliably and a CKF Decepticon with a detent so lose that the knife might open in your pocket.

The Microtech is not overcharging at all. The parts are made in the US instead of using chinese labor. They have to pay their workers a lot more than the chinese do, since our SOL is a lot higher.

@@notgray88 sure, labor costs are much higher than in China. However most of the work is automated and done on assembly lines. That is why it's hard for me to justify price of $764.26 for Microtech Troodon Tanto. Most of Microtech knives cost way too much, e.g. Microtech Ultratech OTF D/E Automatic Knife. Price: $935.00 or Microtech Combat Troodon Knife Price $1,150.00 I'm not even gonna mention Microtech Marfione Line where one knife can cost you $2,500.00. I know that most of Microtech knives cost in the range of $300-$500 but Kershaw knives average price is around $50 up to $100. Kershaw knives are made in Oregon. It is just my opinion, that Microtech is charging little too much for their products and I can see why some might want counterfeit instead.

the same material

We test them on a machine that will go anywhere from 60-80k actuations.

TeensierPython - Yes they are. Not just Microtech but a slew of others as well.

X-RING - just sucks when you want to buy the real thing and you can’t be sure unless you really know the product. Lucky for me I have places to buy that I trust.

I had a lightning OTF for three years never abused it and then it started to fail I wanted something better I love my knife but I didn't want to spend a lot of money for a high-quality Microtech so I bought a Vespa wasp combat Troodon clone and I am very impressed in the Precision quality for $160 you can't go wrong

Keep telling yourself that.

I have a hifinder too the clone is far away better for the money my friend.

21maggot4life yeah, hard to look away from that car crash. 😂

Thanks Nick! They are great watches.

You are 100% correct James and I appreciate your comment on this. Seems like cost is the only deciding factor and nothing else matters to a few people.

@@XRING Thank you sir. BTW, I just watched the video where you burned and abused your Combat Troodon. I found it because I just purchased one and wanted to see some reviews. Wow, I was impressed. I know that to some they may see your torture tests as extreme but I, for one, want to see just how far I could push my tools without actually having to. I appreciate your work! Keep it up.

I think is its far worse that there companies try to screw us by selling knives at a 900% mark up, if Chinese knockoffs are good enough to compete and at 1/10 of the cost then it is obvious who is getting screwed

Thanks Guitar Hiker and thank you for watching the channel.

LOL! Thanks Josh H. I appreciate you watching and I hope you are doing well.