'Y'all argued my brain into mush': Ahmaud Arbery death trial lawyers argue citizen arrest definition

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Lawyers are conducting a charging conference on Friday, Nov. 19, 2021 in the trial of the death of Ahmaud Arbery with closing arguments expected on Monday.
Arbery was shot and killed on Feb. 23, 2020. Cellphone video leaked to the public shows two armed white men in a truck approaching the 25-year-old Black man as he runs down the road. One of the men, later identified as Travis McMichael, and Arbery struggle over McMichael's shotgun before Arbery is shot and collapses.
Travis McMichael, his father Gregory McMichael and William "Roddy" Bryan, who recorded the video, are all charged with murder in Arbery's death.
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@ladydeerheart1 2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't fleeing a felony. He was fleeing from the vigilante threatening to shoot him after having not committed any crimes.

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong

@danielhall1226 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 Yes. You are wrong. Save the BS for your klan rallies🤷🏿‍♂️

@amybrown6540 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570, what was the felony?!?!

@Raimond799 2 жыл бұрын

You dont understand the law. SUSPICION of a felon is enough. Arbery entered that house illegally many times and those people has every right to suspect him from burglary. Entering that house Arbery created a reasonable suspicion of a felony crime. Even if he never took anything! Arbery went inside that house, not just hanged around the yard. Trespassing by definition is entering somebodys yard without permit. Burglary by definition is entering somebodys house, dwelling or car without permit. Its a fact that Arbery went inside that house and law is against him in this case.

@corporalsoletrain2132 2 жыл бұрын

@@Raimond799 Suspicion of felony is enough for cops. Not citizens' arrest. And the defendants never actually declared an "arrest", they just backed him in and attacked him. Even a cop wouldn't have charged him.

@SpencerWilliamsIV 2 жыл бұрын

Notice how the prosecutor is debating five different lawyers with ease.

@blkluv100 2 жыл бұрын

They should be wearing t-shirts that say "I'm with stupid".

@Be1smaht 2 жыл бұрын

She is a BOSS

@Be1smaht 2 жыл бұрын

bug more like. " I am stupid"

@torrisali2082 2 жыл бұрын

thats whats blowing me away about it. She should go into private practice after this.

@quaasimaustin5738 2 жыл бұрын

She’s good.

@judyferguson3185 2 жыл бұрын

No one witnessed him committing a felony, therefore all the actions of the defendants were illegal.

@caseydman4651 2 жыл бұрын

it's called probable cause, and they had its because of the previous times he trespassed with the camera footage. it's the law

@Issabamabeat 2 жыл бұрын

@@caseydman4651 Previous. Meaning not actively committing a felony. That's the law

@Meng776 2 жыл бұрын

@@caseydman4651 So you're saying probable cause that he committed a misdemeanor is enough to detain him/chase him?

@rayray8687 2 жыл бұрын

@@caseydman4651: Stepping onto another person’s property is not trespassing unless it’s sign posted or the individual has been legally trespassed by the property owner, in other words told personally not to come on the property. Mr Arbery was not trespassing any more than the other people on video were trespassing, and the property owner stated that no one had ever stolen anything from his job site (except scrap lumber by children) and that he thought maybe Mr Arbery stopped for water on his frequent jogs. He stole nothing, he had never stolen from the property and he was not committing a crime at the time he was chased down, cornered and killed.

@liquidmark5081 2 жыл бұрын

@@caseydman4651 that’s not how probable cause works. Trespassing is not a felony. You don’t get probable cause to arrest for a felony if all you know about is a misdemeanor. You don’t get to rank-up misdemeanor belief into a felony action.

@richardowens9061 2 жыл бұрын

One thing is quite clear - these three men on trial are a menace to the community.

@iangallaher2212 2 жыл бұрын

Lol you're racist. Against Whites. The Arbury or what ever his name is, was trespassing on a construction site, which everyone knows that's a place expensive tools are and construction sites are often burglarized. The black man was trespassing and he was found to be suspect in other burglaries. They were detaining him under citizen arrest, which is common Law.

@ethelhughes-wynn7328 2 жыл бұрын

He did not steal from this construction site he did not have a weapon on him he was not doing anything but minding his own business and he look up and around. Him 1 truck is chasing him down. There goes another truck is joining in on the chase and Thank God he. Recorded it This man was murder for been Black and jogging

@jasonbinder3012 2 жыл бұрын

Show me where he took something 😂😂 they going to jail

@Sergio-kd9wm 2 жыл бұрын

@@iangallaher2212 what about the other people who have trespassed just because they’re white it doesn’t matter stupid you’re the real racist

@erikam4897 2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonbinder3012 yea , they are

@twelch8367 2 жыл бұрын

Looking at a building under construction is not a felony not one time did they show him carrying anything out of the house.

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

Why was he on private property?

@danielhall1226 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 We could ask him directly had he not been stalked and murdered by racist idiots with guns. 🤷🏿‍♂️

@jayhawkins7852 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 a quick question. Was it wrong just for him to be on private property or everyone else who were caught on the property's surveillance cameras?

@ArtfullyMusingLaura 2 жыл бұрын

And they had no way of knowing that he was not there because he was working on the house or asked by the owner to look at the house to provide construction work.

@iangallaher2212 2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtfullyMusingLaura what are you talking about??? There is an Owner of that house and he HAS MADE STATEMENTS. You can just Google it..... The man wasn't invited there... he died for resisting citizens arrest... good riddance

@VanVaper 2 жыл бұрын

Just imagine if they didn't have that video, it would all be covered up and they would labeled him as a burglar that broke in wrong house.

@bridgettjohnson7437 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@ismth 2 жыл бұрын

A tale as old as time in the US. The rule not the exception for most of our history. Yet, some don’t want to learn about the horrific terrorism committed against blacks and other minorities like the Chinese and Japanese. Only way forward is making sure the crimes committed today are properly punished.

@robingibson9557 2 жыл бұрын

The police did! The detective called Ahmaud's mother and told her Ahmaud was shot after a burglary, by the house owner!

@mymai2792 2 жыл бұрын

No, without the video they still would've won. After the guilty verdict, the Prosecution team were interviewed & said it was 'icing' to have the video & it made their job easier. They also added that without the video it would've been a little harder but they had over 400+ exhibits so were very confident of success. The real accolade is Ahmaud's Mum Rona who for 76 days from the murder of her son, with all LE & DA doors shut in her face, worked tirelessly alone to unearth corruption links in the quest to have her son's murderers prosecuted. It was a reporter who heard about the DA having to recuse himself because of Rona's work, who was prompted to write the story of Rona's struggles for justice. This made global headlines highlighted BLM support. Later Roddie Bryan leaked his video under the idiotic assumption it'd help his cause.

@billy4072 2 жыл бұрын

@@mymai2792 thought it was g. Mc Michael? 🤔

@mscharita 2 жыл бұрын

This woman is actually a great prosecutor 👏🏾

@yd5396 2 жыл бұрын

She is really good. Well prepared

@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын

To be completely fair… This is the Cadillac of prosecutions.. lol.. Pass everything but a gas station..

@ebbypetes 2 жыл бұрын

Yes she is. Shes the bomb.

@sweetcapricorn 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, she is outstanding

@kidmac1514 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wouldn't have wanted her back when I used to get into trouble..shes a beast

@nocar_mkemke4851 2 жыл бұрын

I could end this argument with seven words. What’s a citizens arrest with no proof🤷‍♂️

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

We got him on video going for the gun. He comes Aubrey jogging over to you to punch you in the head. Hahaha you dead

@slimjim7411 2 жыл бұрын

In Georgia they only need reasonable suspicion even citizens.

@microlithic8354 2 жыл бұрын

@@slimjim7411 not possible, the Georgia statute was written 95 years before the Terry decision

@eos_2366 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 let me guess. You’re from Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama. It’s Alabama is it? Every heard of a high school education? Might help you in the long run.

@MemoryChronicles 2 жыл бұрын

@Naruto Goku 😁👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@powerbeast5801 2 жыл бұрын

They didn't see him commit a crime. The only assumed he committed a crime

@dealia7777 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@MezMez 2 жыл бұрын

They saw a known burglary suspect run out of a house. They had very reasonable suspicion that he had just committed a crime

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

@@MezMez You’re lying. Those are not facts in this case.

@MezMez 2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcosElMalo2 Yes they are. He is literally on video running in and out of the house

@wynwilliams6977 2 жыл бұрын

@@MezMez You claim he was a known burglary suspect, that is an outright lie, he passed a building site and checked it out of interest and he had followed it's construction for five months as he jogged never, not once had anything been stolen by him, however three white people had been seen going in and out in that time and two of them tried to steal plywood

@tanyaowen8223 2 жыл бұрын

These men stalked him with their vehicles and guns, he did nothing wrong. Ahmaud was the only innocent person. I hope they rot in jail for the hate that motivated them…….

@Scott83016 2 жыл бұрын

Well he wasn't innocent. He was a criminal and had committed a felony. . . . .so not innocent.

@dnate697 2 жыл бұрын

They'll be let go, it is the GA way!

@williethomas5116 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scott83016 when all else fails just lie. He was no criminal an innocent man who committed no crime.

@jamarparker7150 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scott83016 you would say something like that even tho they have no evidence. No matter WHAT nobody deserves to die!!! Let alone make a citizens arrest!!!

@williethomas5116 2 жыл бұрын

@@gurnblanston3210 no he was not.

@fairestofthemall4421 2 жыл бұрын

This case is unbelievable !!!! They are battling it out and the prosecutor is winning!! This needs to be shown to law students !!!! She's a legal eagle 🦅😂🦅🦅🦅🦅😂😂😂😂😂.

@davidelrod2825 2 жыл бұрын

She should win. They clearly marked that kid

@e1v1a19 2 жыл бұрын

LOL. It's such an easy clear cut case for the prosecution. It shouldn't be difficult for the prosecution at all.

@geraldineallen8060 2 жыл бұрын

Right she need to be a Law Professor. When she flip those pages you know she coming for you

@1sneakyboi730 2 жыл бұрын

I KNOW RIGHT 🦅😂🦅🦅🦅😂😂😂😂😂😂🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅😂😂🦅🦅🦅🦅😂😂🦅🦅🦅🦅😂😂😂🦅😂

@emersonmanning6523 2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldineallen8060 Not taking anything from her but arguing the truth isn't difficult.

@donjohnson1578 2 жыл бұрын

They chased down an INNOCENT man with guns, then shot him when he felt cornered and fought back. The rest of that citizens arrest BS is irrelevant.

@iangallaher2212 2 жыл бұрын

Hes not innocent by definition.. he trespassed. Was suspect of a string of burglaries and then resisted citizens arrest.. assaulted a man with a gun.... he died for those crimes.. he wasn't UNARMED..... he was trying to take the man's GUN. He was TRYING TO TAKE A FIRE ARM

@hogman2524 2 жыл бұрын

@@iangallaher2212 What you are blowing is BS!!

@eiler1987 2 жыл бұрын

@@iangallaher2212 who reported him for trespassing to the police?

@Jake-rs9nq 2 жыл бұрын

@@iangallaher2212 Arbery was being attacked by three men, same as Kyle. And all three of these men were endangering his life.

@looking4things669 2 жыл бұрын

And pick up trucks.

@ambroulard 2 жыл бұрын

None of this applies at all,,,,, The fool with the shotgun who killed him had NO actual knowledge of any crime actually committed by the victim.

@scottmcfarland5830 2 жыл бұрын

after watching these videos for hours im beginning to learn how desperate this defense team is.

@robingibson9557 2 жыл бұрын

They had no probable cause. Skin color is not probable cause.

@Scott83016 2 жыл бұрын

Probable cause was him trespassing. Though not an excuse for killing him

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

Why was he on private property then?

@Alvan81 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 Um, Curiosity?🙄😒🙄 Wanted to learn about Framing and Construction? To Drink from the Hose? To use the Porta-Potty? Same as all those OTHER folks including the TRUE culprits. It's sometimes called "Lookey-Loos" in Real Estate. Why are you asking a legally irrelevant question!🤔 Also McMicheal's didn't actually *see* him on private property , anyway.

@willfargo1109 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scott83016 where the footage of him on that property ?

@gwine9087 2 жыл бұрын

It is in Georgia.

@theobservermelanin1746 2 жыл бұрын

No cops were called. This man had every right to Jog on any Public Street or road minding his Business. These Clowns went out of their way to attack this Jogger. They admitted that they saw the Jogger commit Zero Crimes.

@johnclintonpain904 2 жыл бұрын

Would standing outside a bank mean I’m might there to rob it

@joespinelli5421 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnclintonpain904 that's a pretty broad statement so no...the owners could ask you to leave though.

@rambofan334 2 жыл бұрын

@@joespinelli5421 Owners being the keyword, don't forget.

@joespinelli5421 2 жыл бұрын

@@rambofan334 Exactly...that didn't happen in this situation though.

@John-kv7jo 2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't jogging on a public street. On the day of his death, he was seen running from the house when spotted by a neighbor. The three men had the right to detain Ahmaud on suspicion of theft.

@jbdb7172 2 жыл бұрын

I am so upset that the defense is still talking about this as if Ahmaud was doing something wrong Lets be real the mcmichaels never saw Ahmaud committing a crime the day he was murdered therefore they had no grounds for pursuing him All of this talk about previous citizens arrest cases dont make any sense because Ahmaud did not commit a crime the day he was murdered The bottom line is they saw an opportunity to kill a black man and they did Their mistake was thinking they were going to get away with it in this day and age with social media and cell phones Now had this been back in the day or even a few years ago they would have gotten away with it They are guilty of murder point blank!!!

@kidmac1514 2 жыл бұрын

Well honestly that's there jobs..thats what they are paid big money for..although they have to fight for scumbags like this , it's still their jobs..and if they go against their own client that will get them into a lot of trouble..it sucks but it's how it works..i couldn't do it...fight for trash..nope

@reelayn 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it does not matter if he actually commited a crime (and in other parts of the trial the defense does concede that he did not commit a felony). However, what matters is whether the defendents had probable cause to believe he had as well as whether that meant they were legally allowed to do a citizens arrest. Now imo them chasing AA down in the manner they did is insane, and they do have a vigilante mindset about it. However, legally this will probably be appealed on the grounds of whether the statue was correctly interprited, and i would not be surprised to see the case in higher courts before all is said and done.

@Parpeing 2 жыл бұрын

@@reelayn theses vigilantes are saddly mostly looking for a legal kill, its like "submit to my unreasonable show of authority or die"

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, the defense attorneys didn’t have anything else to talk about. That was their entire flimsy case. However, the murderers’ other defenders, i.e., the white supremacists repeating the same debunked lies about the victim? Those horrible excuses for human beings should just shut up.

@reelayn 2 жыл бұрын

@@Parpeing probably. But there is a difference between us believing that and proving it in a court

@jerryarcher1923 2 жыл бұрын

Arbery didn’t deserve to die.

@_Scorpionbabe_ 2 жыл бұрын

At all! Let’s hope his family gets JUSTICE.

@John-kv7jo 2 жыл бұрын

Because he went for the gun. The three men had the right to detain him.

@_Scorpionbabe_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@John-kv7jo “the 3 men had the right to detain him” 🤡 gtfoh

@John-kv7jo 2 жыл бұрын

@@_Scorpionbabe_ You are a clown. Read the law.

@Joseph.M. 2 жыл бұрын

@@John-kv7jo you don't know what youre talking about moron.

@ATLgamingZ6 2 жыл бұрын

Knowing that these men will never be able to fish again brings me GREAT JOY.

@skyjuiceification 2 жыл бұрын

Knowing that they will end up getting "real justice" in prison brings me greater j0y!

@geraldineallen8060 2 жыл бұрын

Yes never to go out and harass a homeless person or kill someone for looking at a construction site . Gregory call the Cops to say the homeless Man look shady after assumed he may have stole the neighbor purse. Then they assumed Arbery did something because he was running. Now they will be caged like Animals never to roam freely to bother other Human Beings

@saul9050 2 жыл бұрын

I know its the wheels of justice but this is disgusting He was Not even a fleeing felon nor were they police officers to arrest him

@zhain0 2 жыл бұрын

Goes both ways. If there were no trials it would be mayhem. Anyone could accuse anyone of anything. Regardless of what we think of the case it HAS to be done.

@jacobsaunders1092 2 жыл бұрын

Thai is the legal process, you need it.

@franklinprichard9151 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone deserves a fair trial, even murderers. This is why I could never be an attorney.

@zhain0 2 жыл бұрын

@@franklinprichard9151 you can pick your cases, atleast if your not appointed by state, I believe.

@rhondaunger6582 2 жыл бұрын

These three men had no business chasing gown and killing a mod Aubrey They did not witness a crime He did not commit a crime and this was absurd

@bonsummers2657 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Long post warning: I don't know if you watched the pre-trial hearings or watched the final sidebar today where they discussed this, but the whole trial seems sort of false as they all know the key to this case, but aren't allowed to mention it at the trial. The key being that Arbery was mentally ill, and probably quite seriously at the point he was shot. I think his mental illness records should have been allowed in the trial as they answer two questions that have lingered over the whole case. Firstly, why did Arbery keep returning to a construction site, sometimes late at night? Secondly, why did he react so unusually to being chased, and why did he choose to confront two armed men who seemed like they were serious about telling him not to come closer?

@zonahatt1411 2 жыл бұрын

What played a big part of this was their racism .... if they had concerns they should have called real cops .... this isn't the bloody wild west ..... they're racist

@blizz2748 2 жыл бұрын

@@bonsummers2657 @Bon Summers shut the hell up. You keep posting the lies and misinformation. Copy pasted. You didnt fact check or anything

@keepaway7896 2 жыл бұрын

So it's wrong that these men tried to protect their neighborhood from a man that clearly does not belong there

@rhondaunger6582 2 жыл бұрын

@@bonsummers2657 these guys hunted him down and shot him. They came looking for trouble he was minding his business and this would have never happened if they had not chased him down

@sunkissedbytmh3219 2 жыл бұрын

This WASN'T self defense 😐

@anthonyhill7286 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@DarwinLpayne 2 жыл бұрын

Conspiracy to Commit Premeditated Murder and a Hate Crime.

@caseydman4651 2 жыл бұрын

@@DarwinLpayne lol you don't call the cops before you want to commit murder and a hate crime

@Carlos-ui5dx 2 жыл бұрын

@@caseydman4651 you don't go and point guns at them for no reason either, but here we are

@kaptain1x 2 жыл бұрын

this was a cold blooded murder.

@ernestfox4880 2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed that everytime attorney Kevin Gough speaks, judge Walmsley turns red as a chilli pepper 🌶️...🤣🤣🤣

@AkhWu 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Chauna30 2 жыл бұрын

I do believe he's been dealing with his goofy behind for a year at least. Take in mind the bond hearings and pretrial, etc. Poor guy.

@Reptiles_Uncaged 2 жыл бұрын

The defense actually hurt their clients with all the racist remarks. EXAMPLE: Dirty long black toes, and “no more black pastors”. The jury was watching.

@TheLuscious 2 жыл бұрын

The defendants co-signed the defense that they got

@edwardmeer95 2 жыл бұрын

They shot a guy who didn't commit a crime. And now want to argue that he did.

@Raimond799 2 жыл бұрын

He commit a crime because he entered that house, period.

@hogman2524 2 жыл бұрын

IF you have the option to run away or aattack someone, that is a crime in it's self, IF YOU try to wrestle my gun away, be ready to be SHOT!!

@edwardmeer95 2 жыл бұрын

@@hogman2524 you pull a gun on me I hope you have your affairs in order. Because if I don't drop you, everyone will know your cowardly face from a mile away. Fulling a gun on an unarmed person out for a run? What a coward. There is a special place in hell for people like you.

@tumenihits5438 2 жыл бұрын

@@Raimond799 Arbery did not commit any crime that day.

@Raimond799 2 жыл бұрын

@@tumenihits5438 He did. He entered that house and while he was on probation.

@ieshabrown4707 2 жыл бұрын

Self defense how ? Aubrey didn’t even say a single word to them he was running away from them !!!

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

He was gritting his teeth

@PresentingGreatMusic 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 Oh damn, well in that case it’s perfectly accepted what happened then. How dare he

@richardowens9061 2 жыл бұрын

The victim is not on trial, here - his murderers are.

@notperfectandneverwillbe4825 2 жыл бұрын

The defense is sure trying.

@kitkat7871 2 жыл бұрын

Victims are always on trial.

@bridgettjohnson7437 2 жыл бұрын

Thank You!...this shows how the headlines start out "The Trial of Ahmaud Arbrey" is so quickly planted in the brain of people who don't give that a second thought. I've been saying the same thing you have. travis mcmichael, gerg mcmichael and their accomplice video man roddie bryan are on trial for killing Ahmaud Arbrey.

@jamesulrich4406 2 жыл бұрын

Why did they not call police before getting guns.

@sandradube4456 2 жыл бұрын

Because they are arrogant 🙄

@dannydevito5729 2 жыл бұрын

Because they were not interested in the police. They were judge, jury, and executioner for Ahmaud. I'm an hour away from Brunswick and there isn't a reasonable person who knows what racism is like here that would ever recommend a young black man stop and talk to these good old boys. This is as simple as it looks, unfortunately

@Amira_Jessa 2 жыл бұрын

Because they think they are the law

@thorCast 2 жыл бұрын

They did, the police told them not to approach him

@moimeself1088 2 жыл бұрын

They did. They were told to sit their behinds down. Zimmerman all over again. 🙄

@michaelgriffin6330 2 жыл бұрын

Defense is out of their minds,Aubrey never stole anything from the house,

@rickywoods3101 2 жыл бұрын

are you sure ? He sure has stolen stuff in the past and has got caught several times .. why do you think he was on probation ? He stakes out places then comes back to steal , not only that he stole flat screen tvs from a store and got caught ..

@emilyemmily8712 2 жыл бұрын

@@rickywoods3101 did he steal from the house? I didn’t read anything from this comment that said anything about his past

@_Scorpionbabe_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@rickywoods3101 nobody was talking about his past tho 🙄

@carolynswan1171 2 жыл бұрын

@@rickywoods3101 Stop taking up for Larry curly and moe

@coachhubb507 2 жыл бұрын

@@rickywoods3101 the home owner said nothing had been stolen.

@randomperson2107 2 жыл бұрын

She is an amazing prosecutor she gets to the point and stays on topic and does not hold back.

@ashylarry3442 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never taken into account the mental toll these cases take on judges, but this guy is being taken through the wringer.

@michaelmcdougall7367 2 жыл бұрын

That's y he's a judge and makes big bucks

@joespinelli5421 2 жыл бұрын

It's not easy being judge, not just understanding the law and applying reasoning and writing on it, but also reminding the lawyers in the court room of the law as well as court room procedures.

@robingibson9557 2 жыл бұрын

He is spectacular! And the other judge was reading cookie ads, in between his bullshit rulings.

@robingibson9557 2 жыл бұрын

He has to do this right. He knows it.

@texastootin1628 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh he probably wasnt even very stressed about it. This is a clear cut murder case and he knew that from the very beginning. Thats why the whole trail he was arguing with the defense because he wouldnt put uo with their strawman arguments and bullshit

@justsayin895 2 жыл бұрын

These defendants have no defense for their actions. They were trying to play cop without any uniforms or titles.

@lalaisis5126 2 жыл бұрын

OR a reason.

@robingibson9557 2 жыл бұрын

I think it is worse than that. They were hunting. because it looks like they were really pleased and proud of the result.

@prasan7th 2 жыл бұрын

Even cops would get convicted if they attempted this

@pedronoa1973 2 жыл бұрын

Why is this an issue? Ahmaud wasn't committing a crime.

@mortygoldmacher 2 жыл бұрын

It needs to be addressed for the (white) jurors who may presume that all black men are criminals.

@notperfectandneverwillbe4825 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the jury is not there today.

@Meng776 2 жыл бұрын

Technically, he could be charged with misdemeanor trespassing. The law states that committing a felony and fleeing allows forcible detention.

@rayray8687 2 жыл бұрын

@@Meng776: He was not trespassing, he was on an un-gated, non-signposted construction site and had not been previously trespassed by the propert owner who also stated he had never stolen anything from the site, so whoooosh, that all goes out the window.

@liquidmark5081 2 жыл бұрын

@@Meng776 actually, for trespassing, the police would probably just give him a trespass warning if the property owner says they don’t want him on their property.

@ArchAGabriel 2 жыл бұрын

In simple terms the defence is arguing the fact that somehow he caused his own death..that's a damn shame !

@hogman2524 2 жыл бұрын

a shame but TRUE!!

@MEGABUMSTENCH 2 жыл бұрын

@@hogman2524 not really, considering he wouldnt have been killed, were he not being chased by people with guns. its almost like you dont understand causality, but then you are probably an american, so anything is possible

@hogman2524 2 жыл бұрын

@@MEGABUMSTENCH You are probably an IDIOT!!

@hotrocket321 2 жыл бұрын

@@hogman2524 you do seem to understand that neither of these people actually witnessed a felony or even misdemeanors on the actual day of this “citizens arrest”

@John-kv7jo 2 жыл бұрын

And they would be correct. Ahmaud only died when he went for the gun. The men were within their rights to detain him.

@ATLgamingZ6 2 жыл бұрын

The fact they made a post on Facebook about some poor homeless man under a bridge and also accused him of crimes tell you this neighborhood is dangerous to be poor or black in.

@geraldineallen8060 2 жыл бұрын

That guy was White. But I guess they felt he was beneath them also

@ATLgamingZ6 2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldineallen8060 That's why I said poor OR black.

@jrow3101 2 жыл бұрын

I think the most frustrating part for a lay person is you inow the fact that Mr. Arbri didnt commite any crime so honestly this is just 1st degree murder.

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

Right? What difference does it make if citizen’s arrest applies to felonies or misdemeanors if there was neither a felony or misdemeanor committed by the victim?

@joebannon6920 2 жыл бұрын

The south is like 75 years behind the rest of the country.

@BryanM61 2 жыл бұрын

I'd put it closer to 160 years behind.

@colonelangus7535 2 жыл бұрын

Need to be able to articulate suspicion of a specific crime to arrest someone. Dude is guilty as fuck

@shawnreid6123 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, the McMichael's are guilty!! 😉

@sparkyjones560 2 жыл бұрын

I agree guilty, but I still think this jury will give them the benefit of the doubt and Acquit them of it. Because yeah. AMERICA.

@jaybz1276 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah..these guys need to be punished. They could of handled this non violent issue in a completely different way. Another reason why 'citizens arrests' are a terrible idea.

@simonghostriley7103 2 жыл бұрын

They’re a great idea on paper but like most are a disaster after the fact. It’s a “perfect scenario” action but this incident clearly was not a perfect scenario!

@Cliohna 2 жыл бұрын

@Reader Stuff I agree. Citizens arrests, just like self defense is fine and everyone should be able to defend themselves and detain someone temporarily until lawenforcement can take over. But in both cases the law should be very clear what is and what is not allowed. That's the problem.

@Cliohna 2 жыл бұрын

@Reader Stuff Oh and I also agree with your assessement of the situation (if that wasn't clear from my first response).

@eos_2366 2 жыл бұрын

@Reader Stuff agreed, so in other words, this was not a citizens arrest.

@TPainWhatitDo 2 жыл бұрын

It's could have, not could of

@paulabarrows7023 2 жыл бұрын

I feel for this judge. 3 defense teams, 1 prosecution team.......too many lawyers lol. They love to hear themselves talk. 🙉🙉🙉

@blizz2748 2 жыл бұрын

The case is fairly obviously. Lawyers just wont stop until they've been told to

@sinister7623 2 жыл бұрын

They probably talk in there sleep.😂😂🤣🤣

@ASMRR3N33 2 жыл бұрын

3 defense lawyers, that's saying alot right there. They are still going down. I love this judge though ❤️

@caseydman4651 2 жыл бұрын

@@ASMRR3N33 3 different people being charged, require 3 different lawyers wtf logic do you use in your every day life? do you eat corn starch?

@Texasbonez817 2 жыл бұрын

Casey I don’t think you’ll get a substantial response from OP, she demonstrated a room temp IQ.

@joycelynwalker269 2 жыл бұрын

I so love the expression the judge shows when the defense attorney gets up with a motion. Look like a discipline father. Who give you the look and you either take a seat or go to your room. God bless the judge and we are praying for his guidance and protection

@skyjuiceification 2 жыл бұрын

Fuck the judge, justice f0r Ahmaud!!!!!1

@ArtfullyMusingLaura 2 жыл бұрын

They had no way of knowing that he was not there because he was working on the house or asked by the owner to look at the house to provide construction work. So you get to chase down and kill anyone you see anywhere you think they shouldn't be??

@domoniquedavis6336 2 жыл бұрын

This right here !!!!! Right!!!!!!

@Alvan81 2 жыл бұрын

Heart of the Matter right there! "He was running, so he _must've_ committed SOME? crime..."🙄🙄 Bubba Logic

@MoodyCinema82 2 жыл бұрын

Guilty af 2021 and people still crazy af

@skyjuiceification 2 жыл бұрын

And they always will be, the year ain't g0t a damn thing to d0 with anything~

@MoodyCinema82 2 жыл бұрын

You're. Right but it should

@oatsmcgoats8493 2 жыл бұрын

arbery didnt commit a crime, they had not witnessed any crime... where's the fellony that he was fleeing from. there wasnt any

@raylemar2386 2 жыл бұрын

How did he get to be a fleeing felon?

@dharper7980 2 жыл бұрын

The prosecutor brought it to their attention

@raylemar2386 2 жыл бұрын

The only felons are the men on trial, and after they are convicted and sent to prison, they will get to find out what it is like to be chased and fear for their lives.

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

He has a long record criminal. Not presented

@samuelbr8411 2 жыл бұрын

Tammy jo Dolan not presented because it is not relevant to the case at hand

@AkhWu 2 жыл бұрын

Black man in a white neighborhood in southeast Georgia 🇬🇪 is to them a felony ijs

@anonymousish9725 2 жыл бұрын

How ridiculous to suggest self defense!! They brought a gun into the situation not him

@caseydman4651 2 жыл бұрын

it's not illegal to have a gun, it's not illegal to make a citizens arrest if you have probable cause, you don't lose your right to have a gun simply because you are making a citizens arrest

@mortygoldmacher 2 жыл бұрын

It worked for George Zimmerman and now Kyle Rittenhouse.

@sinister7623 2 жыл бұрын

@@mortygoldmacher Kyle Rittenhouse was not making a citizens arrest

@blizz2748 2 жыл бұрын

@@caseydman4651 probable cause? They stated they didn't have probable cause. They chased him for no reason

@sinister7623 2 жыл бұрын

@@caseydman4651 Seeing a man walk jogging down the street is not probable cause. To make a citizens arrest like it says in the Georgia Constitution they have to observed him commit a felony

@X360PHILNUMBR1 2 жыл бұрын

These guys are easily the WORST defense lawyers I have ever seen in a trial ever... Dear god their hopeless.

@buckiesmalls 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda hard to defend videoed murder...

@sonjam6870 2 жыл бұрын

here, here.

@arnoldmccoy6828 2 жыл бұрын

The real reason these Defense Lawyers are the WORST. Cuz so many past decades of White Folks in this part of Country was " "NEVER Bound to Respect the Rights of any Black American" Responsible application of the LAW really didn't matter when came to infringing Upon Rights , Life and Limb of Black Americans ! Once all was needed was " WHITE Folks Good' Ole Boy " Wink Wink and Nudge Nudge and Case Law be damn ! Backwoods Ole Country Lawyers practically walked all over Black Americans RIGHTS !!

@Creative-Chaos 2 жыл бұрын

What can they defend? Man is jogging, no weapons. Others hunt him down with a vehicle and kill him. Everything is known. What can the defense lawyers argue? Not much.

@sandraray8523 2 жыл бұрын

@@arnoldmccoy6828 truth

@dianabasta8467 2 жыл бұрын

Chasing an innocent man down with guns over looking into a home that’s empty. That’s sad.

@BasicName02 2 жыл бұрын

Why isn’t this over yet? It’s pretty clear it was a murder

@TheValk777 2 жыл бұрын

The defense rested their case and they will give closing statements on Monday. This is just their attempt to drop a few charges before that

@iangallaher2212 2 жыл бұрын

Because its clearly not murder and he needs to be found innocent as a lesson the country, that you can't burglarized construction sites, trespass and then be an asshole who won't stop and communicate

@nville12 2 жыл бұрын

@@iangallaher2212 just stop it… you couldn’t possibly be serious

@nakiasmith5720 2 жыл бұрын

They're dragging this out. Just say guilty and move on. Stop wasting tax payers money

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty clear self defense

@jamesulrich4406 2 жыл бұрын

Why no charges for kidnaping and murder.

@Alvan81 2 жыл бұрын

They killed him before they had a chance. So no kidnapping. I think technically they did Unlawfully Detain him when they pinned him in. And they are charged with murder.

@jamesulrich4406 2 жыл бұрын

@@Alvan81 Attempted Kidnaping then. Three armed men attempt to force you into a vehicle, you know it is not going to end well. Tell me who was scared first for their life.

@Alvan81 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesulrich4406 I'm hear you... But my point was that when you add on those kinds of charges, you create another burden of proof, & maybe muddy the waters. E.g. their lawyer could say 'they weren't going to _take him anywhere, _ just wanted him to stop so we would question him'.

@joespinelli5421 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesulrich4406 Actually I think their are federal charges for attempted kidnapping. I think their is a Federal court trial scheduled in February, 2022. Including interference of rights.

@Chauna30 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the state's false imprisonment charge is the appropriate charge for this situation.

@SavannahJ79 2 жыл бұрын

So they're arguing Ahmaud committed a crime by entering the construction site then I'm assuming the white couple who also entered have been charged with trespassing have they?

@John-kv7jo 2 жыл бұрын

Ahmaud was seen no less than five times trespassing in a home when a theft took place. They had reasonable and probable grounds to detain.

@wynwilliams6977 2 жыл бұрын

@@John-kv7jo No he was sen no less than five times on video NOT committing any crime and when NOTHING was stolen, why lie about it? of course two white youths were seen trying to steal plywood and a white couple took some stuff but him? he didn't touch a damn thing nor unless they witnessed an actual crime (they didn't) would there be any justification for stopping him anyway + as you just heard citizens arrest would have to of been when a crime had been witnessed taking place not something they think happened in the past

@travise6940 2 жыл бұрын

The law regarding "Citizens Arrests" should be outlawed. An actual police officer should be arresting someone, not civilians. Period!

@Its_Mechele 2 жыл бұрын

It has been last year after this situation.

@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын

Governor Kemp actually led the charge on repealing the law, which should tell you how egregious the law and this crime was..

@PatriciaReyes-ui1fw 2 жыл бұрын

Well but, they didn't make a citizens arrest they murdered him! Do let's keep are rights for safe keeping for the right moment.

@iangallaher2212 2 жыл бұрын

@@PatriciaReyes-ui1fw he resisted arrest and died, you have got to be the dumbest person I've talked to in weeks

@iangallaher2212 2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you try being a police officer or a Military Member and then you'll realize why citizens arrest is important. Because everyone is a citizen. Even cops. Citizens are the ones arresting everyone. Citizens arrest like "The Reserves" for Military. I would love to Citizen Arrest you one day when, I see you doing something wrong. Citizen arrest is when you steal from my store and I hold you detained until cops show up. You're a fool.

@cyclemadness 2 жыл бұрын

My mother and I like walking through homes under construction just to see what the layout is going to be. Construction sites are fascinating.

@drebk 2 жыл бұрын

right? Put up a fence or a sign if you want to keep lookyloos out. There is usually no harm in watching the progress.

@pfury67 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, and the owner wasn't even pissed about it either, nothing was stolen.

@Holmesson 2 жыл бұрын

@SHARI l So, if my home was missing the entire front of the house, you'd feel entitled to walk through it because it's "unfinished" ? If it isn't your property, stay the fuck out of it and off of it. It doesn't matter that the home was unfinished. It's someone else's property. That goes to you, me, and everyone else that was seen on video going in and out of that unfinished home. I'm in no way excusing the actions of the men on trial here, but to claim that its okay to poke around someone else's property is horseshit.

@sacrebleu1371 2 жыл бұрын

You walk it, you get hurt, then what? You sue someone for your trespassing? Mind your own business, just like these men should have done!

@mr3thouzand 2 жыл бұрын

@@Holmesson you are literally twisting things to fit your narrative. The house was under construction, no walls or doors and NOT YOURS. I've entered houses that were being built multiple times. I shouldn't be killed for taking a look. Why in the hell is the front of your house not up? Still under construction, if so then you are not even living there yet. Structural damage caused it to happen? That prolly means it's unsafe to live in and you would have called your insurance company about it. Oh, and if some one decides to walk in your damaged house and take furniture, electronics, appliances, etc, your insurance company would have to reimburse you.

@marcusjohnson1390 2 жыл бұрын

In order to make a citizen's arrest don't you have to witness an actual crime!?

@BryanM61 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, at least in Georgia you do.

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@buckeyehockey1979 2 жыл бұрын

I literally can feel brain cells dying every time I listen the the defense lawyers speak.

@1sneakyboi730 2 жыл бұрын

This really could be so much simpler. "Someone had died, that man killed him. He admitted to killing him. They claimed he was stealing. He wasn't stealing. There is very tangible evidence he didn't steal. He didn't commit any other crimes at that moment. The murderer is clearly guilty "

@TheBiggreenpig 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the attorney at 8:50 definitely lied. He talks about a fleeing felon, though the felons where those who hunted an innocent man on some unconfirmed suspicion and also confirmed racism.

@smonyboy 2 жыл бұрын

There is very tangible evidence he didnt steal? Seems like the defense has to prove that they have evidence of ahmaud stealing instead of he didnt.

@1sneakyboi730 2 жыл бұрын

@@smonyboy The tangible evidence was the fact that the police found literally nothing stolen on him.

@Joe-bk9qv 2 жыл бұрын

Son trying to impress his racist dad. The father initiated the chase to begin with. He saw the victim running down the road, hollered to his son about it, grabbed his 357 and the son grabbed the shotgun. The beginning of the hunt.

@robertvictor3237 2 жыл бұрын

Probably said, my great grand pappy told me how he used to run down runaway slaves, now it's our turn son ...

@ruthmelicharles5062 2 жыл бұрын

Okay, let's just say the victim did commit a crime or a felony. What gives this son and his father the right to be judge and jury? What gives them the right to decide to take his life?

@ArtfullyMusingLaura 2 жыл бұрын

And how would they even know he was committing a crime. People are at construction sites all the time for legitimate reasons. They had no way of knowing whether or not that was the case.

@ruthmelicharles5062 2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtfullyMusingLaura Exactly. But some are of the view that this son and father are part of a community watchman group and it is their right to prevent crimes. So murdering someone is not a crime because it only happened to protect the community. 🤬😡

@ArtfullyMusingLaura 2 жыл бұрын

@@ruthmelicharles5062 Even so, a crime has to be committed and there was no evidence there was a crime. Watchman group or not do they run down everyone in the neighborhood they don't know or who stops by the house to see how construction is going.

@Cleme21 2 жыл бұрын

How in the hell can they go chase Ahmaud for a crime he didn't commit that day or any other day, but they kill a man ( crime). Instead of being detained they were sent home.

@robertvictor3237 2 жыл бұрын

It's called white privilege. These good ol' boys are white the man they murdered was black. Reverse the situation and the police would have arrested everyone in a miles radius.

@NotIfWhen 2 жыл бұрын

There was no felony. Period. Other than the killing.

@rekcusdoo 2 жыл бұрын

False Imprisonment is a felony. So is Stalking.

@redmed10 2 жыл бұрын

The real question is what's the difference between fleeing and jogging. In this case it seems to depend on your skin colour.

@SunnyandNova 2 жыл бұрын

These people are sick they literally hunted the man down like some savages and now they are trying to use the citizen arrest angle?

@onlymadethisforcomments2476 2 жыл бұрын

How can you be a fleeing felon without committing a felony?

@MaryAnnMsbl34 2 жыл бұрын

Judge Walmsley is JOB from the Bible's little brother. The patience of Job.

@ceasartimothymarkcallender6141 2 жыл бұрын

Truth

@lalaisis5126 2 жыл бұрын

Steve Jobs OR Just 1 job???

@tefolinchwe3738 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏿👌🏿🙆🏿‍♀️

@over50t66 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was simple trespassing issue here?🤨. Which is usually a misdemeanor. With trespassing don’t the home owner have to press charges?

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. A property owner would have to press charges, post signs, or specifically exclude a person (“you can’t come on my property”). So there probably isn’t even cause for simple trespass, as none of those things occurred. There was no legal basis whatsoever for a citizen’s arrest.

@marvinc5961 2 жыл бұрын

She’s handling them like they’re rookies

@jrm8899 2 жыл бұрын

I'm thankful the Rittenhouse judge is nowhere near this case

@twelch8367 2 жыл бұрын

If three armed people are chasing me I am running vigelaty punishment has zero place in our country

@JeaniciaC 2 жыл бұрын

The defense is really reaching.... The one charge for excessive force is what's going to get them all hemmed up!!!

@robingibson9557 2 жыл бұрын

excessive force? no They are going down for murder.

@jamesulrich4406 2 жыл бұрын

All they needed to do was follow him after calling police, but they choose to kill him first.

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t punch me in the head if you want to live

@LordKukard 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 if you cant fight dont start one😂

@Chauna30 2 жыл бұрын

Not even that. Just call the police. Remember at the most, they suspected him of trespassing, which couldn't be deemed official trespassing, until he was identified by police and notified not to enter property anymore. Aldi if he was danger the would be intentionally passing themselves in harms by following him. Vigilantes is what they are.

@tammyjo2570 2 жыл бұрын

No, Travis is definitely a Hero fighting that psycho.

@Chauna30 2 жыл бұрын

@@tammyjo2570 speaking of psycho🙄

@itsavibezparty6511 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy that she is fighting for ahmaurd

@PrintProfessor 2 жыл бұрын

A private person can only arrest for a misdemeanour offence contemporaneously. A private person can only arrest for a felony when the perpetrator is escaping. A private person can never arrest a person which they have no knowledge or evidence of any crime whatsoever. Third hand knowledge of a number of misdemeanours and felonies that have occurred in a neighborhood over the course of weeks and months, and for which there is no specific suspect, does not empower private citizens to randomly select a member of the public based on the melanin content of their skin to effect a citizens arrest upon. I realize lawyers have to argue to support their clients but there was no justification or precedent for these racist hicks to inconvenience Mr. Arbery in any way, much less hunt him down and kill him.

@NappyChile 2 жыл бұрын

God keeps an accurate account, I stand in prayer for full justice for Ahmuad Arbery.

@bryonkidder6199 2 жыл бұрын

The defendant said under Oath that he had a confrontation with the victim a couple days or week before he murdered him. He said the victim acted like he was going to pull a gun on the defendant but the defendant didn't have his gun at the time so he disengaged himself with the confrontation. The next time the defendant saw the victim, he was prepared by having his own gun. The victim had no weapon but that didn't matter to the defendant because he acted like he had one before. So this man decided to hunt the victim down and murder him. He can argue self-defense with the first shot but the next two times he pulled the trigger was a execution. Any reasonable person can see the difference between right and wrong!

@bridgettjohnson7437 2 жыл бұрын

The "defendant is lying to save his ass. Through all of his nonsense..this is the first time heard he personaly encountered Ahmaud one on one before the day he killed Ahmaud. The racist idiot kept contridicting himself in his testimony making up bull 💩 recanting almost all of his statements in his recorded police interview. He forgot what the crook DA and her clean up man told him (travis) and his dad (greg) what too, not too say and do after greg called her for advice. I wonder why that part was not brought up greg's call to his buddy. The NFAC'S call to jackie (the DA) is why the three stooges were finally arrested. They were immediatedly taken into custody for protection from the NFAC who did show up. I'm wondering is that when the 💩 hit the fan for the DA and her clean up crew. There's more to this situation is not being told. Ahmaud's mother was told a lie about his death by Glen County police.

@bridgettjohnson7437 2 жыл бұрын

I don't see how travis can claim "self defence" even after the "first shot". travis, greg and roddie were three armed aggressors. They persued Ahmaud..travis admitted Ahmaud never said a word...never reached in his pants as though he had a weapon. You can't be the aggressor and claim to be a victim.

@geraldineallen8060 2 жыл бұрын

What confrontation? he said he looked at him then look like he was going in his pocket. Never saying a word to him Not saying anything Then he said he went in the house any way So what was the confrontation again? Travis was in house that the day he ran past his home. So why didn't he call the Cops from the safety of his home.

@bryonkidder6199 2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldineallen8060 just because the murderer chose to be a pussy and run back into his house, doesn't mean they didn't have a confrontation...lol Just because you are an asshole doesn't give me the right to murder you on the streets or does it? ;-) If I see you on someone else's property does that give me the right to harass you and claim you're trespassing? Mind your own business is the moral of this story...lmfao!

@jilllowman9848 2 жыл бұрын

Problem is people aren't reasonable these days.

@danni1993 2 жыл бұрын

That judge is a saint. Patience beyond and above. GOOD JOB, Sir.

@robertvictor3237 2 жыл бұрын

Compare this judge to the joker in charge of the Rittenhouse charade ..

@danni1993 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertvictor3237 The difference is night and day. Would think there would be at least some charges against the rottonhouse judge. His behavior was abhorrent.

@robertvictor3237 2 жыл бұрын

@@danni1993 severe bias, as well as early onset Alzheimer's

@dougrobinson5830 2 жыл бұрын

They know it isn't going well. One has asked to plea bargain.

@iangallaher2212 2 жыл бұрын

I took a plea deal for something I didn't do. Dumb ass. Because I wasn't about to do 3 years when I was innocent.... I did 9 agonizing months that I didn't deserve... im got gonna let them slander my name and then on top of that spend years with horrifying criminals

@feverleemcneil8873 2 жыл бұрын

@UClkpG1V950_r724TkWR8u6w your a pussy. Get a lawyer and fight

@BryanM61 2 жыл бұрын

Gough (the Attorney who asked for the plea bargain) is an absolute clown. Although his client (Roddy Bryan) isn't as involved as the other two defendants, he's still going to do time if found guilty. Gough's the same guy who's asked twice for a mistrial, and has made several "Black Pastor" and "Black Lives Matters" remarks. So yeah, I totally agree: At this point, they're pretty sure they're going to lose.

@jasonbinder3012 2 жыл бұрын

Soon as they go to jail I'm going to buy both of there houses let's see how they like that!

@bridgettjohnson7437 2 жыл бұрын

roddie claims he lost his house already. Maybe it belongs to Grand Master Jay and the NFAC now. 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤔 Satilla Shores intergrated😆😆😆😆

@MarcosElMalo2 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, you should if you can! Apparently the owner doesn’t want to move in-he’s distraught that his property was used as a justification for a lynching. He might have trouble selling it at full value because of the house’s connection to such an egregious hate crime. It taints the whole neighborhood, really. You’d be doing the owner a service and you’d elevate the neighborhood, Mr. Binder. Now go have an excellent day!

@olueniwaye1096 2 жыл бұрын

You brought 2 guns 2 trucks;3 defendants lodged illegal and trumped up accusations for arrest that left 1 dead, that can't be right

@phiiphii3048 2 жыл бұрын

I’m still tryna figure out n understand “citizens arrest” in ths case wen a crime wasn’t committed

@Marie70272 2 жыл бұрын

So far I like and respect this judge..he’s nothing like the Rottenhouse judge.🤨

@tthreat23 2 жыл бұрын

That judge should be disbarred. Fucking embarrassment to the judicial system.

@looking4things669 2 жыл бұрын

In Boston, if a shooter claimed "citizens arrest" as a defense he would be thrown to the ground, handcuffed, and taken to jail immediately..

@alexquevedo4011 2 жыл бұрын

Not if he was Kyle Rittenhouse

@garolstipock 2 жыл бұрын

Yea.. But, "The South." They hold onto their slavin' laws and practices like a 2-yr old with a lollipop.

@looking4things669 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexquevedo4011 Kyle Rittenhouse would've been found guilty as charged.

@Magneticitist 2 жыл бұрын

Citizens arrest is a myth anyway. It's some shit that worked like hundreds of years ago. What people do in modern times is a "reasonable detaining". This is when a lunatic is fighting and following you and you decide to wrastle them down and hold them there til the cops come. OR, in some extreme circumstance where it's absolutely necessary you may be able to chase after someone you witness committing a serious crime so long as you don't put them or others in any serious danger that would have otherwise not been present.

@looking4things669 2 жыл бұрын

@@Magneticitist I agree it's foolish, but it is taken seriously in this case.

@sowhateveritis 2 жыл бұрын

it DOES NOT render the second sentence superfluous because the defendents atty is talking about POLICE arresting NOT a citizens arrest

@Alvan81 2 жыл бұрын

He's lowkey Promoting his two trigger happy killers to Posse/Deputy Status. He's used this wording, Dozens of Times btw.

@mastersonogashira1796 2 жыл бұрын

These dudes are guilty as hell

@KrustyKlown 2 жыл бұрын

Homicide during a Kidnapping, is Murder.... never self defense.

@JamesSmith-gn9ou 2 жыл бұрын

I would love for them to explain with specificity, what felony(s) the deceased was committing. They need to move this trial along. The defendants are toast even if they beat the state charges, as the feds are waiting in the wings.

@celestialpotato5222 2 жыл бұрын

burglary (which doesn't require actual items to be stolen)

@JamesSmith-gn9ou 2 жыл бұрын

@@celestialpotato5222 In Georgia, a person commits a burglary by entering or remaining in a structure without authorization and with intent to commit a felony or theft inside. GA code section 16-7-1, 16-17-5. The essential elements to burglary include unlawfully entering or remaining in a protected structure with the INTENT to commit a crime therein. The defendant must enter the structure with the INTENT to commit a theft or some other crime, even if the intended crime never occurs. Here none of the essential elements exist or at the very least are provable. Intent cannot be proven, as the facts demonstrate that the deceased did not commit any observable felony or criminal violation. As far as the mens rea goes, I guess the Three Stooges are mind readers. Conclusion, there was no burglary. At best there was a trespass, a low grade criminal violation. The way they conducted themselves and the language they used leaves no doubt as to their true motives.

@jws031770 2 жыл бұрын

@@celestialpotato5222 WRONG! He was not even trespassing. Just because you put the execption info in parenthesis doesnt make it correct.

@carltonuzzell4729 2 жыл бұрын

They are trying to say that he committed a crime. So he was fleeing the scene of the crime that he committed. Meanwhile in the real world he was out for a jog.

@tomwristen372 2 жыл бұрын

I watched this earlier for about a half hour, got tired of lawyers arguing back and forth,shut it off LOL

@Tonyconner74 2 жыл бұрын

Prosecutor Linda Dunikoski closing argument was outstanding she was.... 1. Articulate 2. Patient 3. Meticulous 4. Relentless 5. Purposeful and with a Dash of Good Ole Common Sense she kept Travis talking long enough to tell his side of his twisted tale to the point where he talked himself, his father and Roddy right into a life sentence... She smoked all the lawyers on the defense side I mean smoked them to the point they were not making any sense all the smoke they were blowing she blew it right back across the room into their faces..... 🏆.....

@brittanicadavis3477 2 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who gets annoyed every time he stands up and even more so when he opens his mouth to actually speak 🤔🤔🤔 anybody, anybody else? It could very well just be me, but I just had to ask.

@yoyogang75 2 жыл бұрын

I am so sick of his 🤡 ass.

@dougrobinson5830 2 жыл бұрын

He's like a 1950s lawyer. If he would take the coat off and wear suspenders with a handkerchief wiping sweat.

@melissaupton2097 2 жыл бұрын

ME! GoUGH is so irritating. He ACTS like he's being "respectful," but his words are like a hot poker. Never forget he's the one who said, "We don't need any black pastors in the courtroom."

@Be1smaht 2 жыл бұрын

He is privelage

@blackdiamond173 2 жыл бұрын

He's definitely grasping at straws. His voice is so cringing 🥴. He likes to hear himself talk

@MaryAnnMsbl34 2 жыл бұрын

There was no police officer there. He lost his job for not following recertification required.

@ritty8110 2 жыл бұрын

It's already established that he stopped to drink water at the construction site whenever he jogged in that area.

@nc8507 2 жыл бұрын

If you go to trial and she walks in as the one prosecuting you, you know it's over already.

@sr2291 2 жыл бұрын

Where was the felony - in Greg and Travis imagination?

@grateful9672 2 жыл бұрын

Sure, let this be their son, I'm sure the argument would be different.

@dustinjohnson7191 2 жыл бұрын

A citizen's arrest has to be correct in fact. Meaning you can't arrest somebody unless you are proven to be correct about the arrest. If you try to arrest somebody for something they are innocent for, you can be charged.. Even if you thought they were guilty at the time.. It doesn't matter

@jrm8899 2 жыл бұрын

These defense lawyers should ask Gomer Pyle about what actually citizen's arrest is all about

@michaelfrazier606 2 жыл бұрын

Why didn’t they just offer a hand shake and say name is such such. How about getting to know someone. America use to be so loving. We have forgot why the first commandment is so important. Try not attacking. An offer friendship

@marybeth1644 2 жыл бұрын

Best comment I have read about this trial. Beautifully said. Thank you.

@himee7781 2 жыл бұрын

we are living times were you are judge by the color of your skin...:-) very fine people from both sites trumps words

@bridgettjohnson7437 2 жыл бұрын

America has NEVER been a "loving" country..EVER....PERIOD.

@michaelfrazier606 2 жыл бұрын

@@bridgettjohnson7437 love is all we need. Only if we would except it? It starts with the first step.. wrote with love

@LordKukard 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelfrazier606 i love you bro i hope you have a good day🙏