surprisingly i prefer the DM3 far far more than the vintage one. The DM3 sounded SUPERB 👌🏻

Hi Espen - beautiful sounds. The DM3 definitely has more high end and clarity to my ears, but the DM7 takes me to the 80s right away for some reason. Could be the rounder low end or some saturation with less highs. Kind of like a Tape vs. CD comparison.

I love that Romeo and Juliet (Alchemy arrangement) intro. Cheers

As a mix engineer, yes, the new one is brighter but nobody would ever be able to tell in a mix just listening to a song. Always good to consider when buying stuff. Be an artist on a budget, not a consumer with big eyes.

DM3 without doubt. Just use your SPX90 on a send for the more retro character. That's what I ended up doing. Having a modern digital mixer is a fantastic workflow helper.

Espen, I love both. The DM3 is much cleaner and has a lower noise floor. The older is noisier and a little darker. You could make the DM3 sound darker with a little EQ if you wanted to match it. The DM3 will be much more carefree and less maintenance. The differences are not enough if I was in your shoes. I would sell the older mixer. Thank you so much for a great comparison. PS, I still have a Yamaha DM1000 with my TX802.

not in the market for a mixer but I'm just enjoying that beautiful layer of DX7 full tines and whatever sound you're using on that Prophet.

The different really does not matter at all when you can play such a beautiful chord progression. I think you can make everything sound great.

I can hardly tell the difference. The DMP-7 can still hold a candle!

The Dmp7 has somthing special. Classic Anime’s like Ranma 1/2 used a similar patch and effects combo. It’s the best. Thank you for sharing

The DM3 sounds amazing. Yamaha makes great stuff. I just don't know why no manufacturer provides multiple sample rates anymore beyond 48/96kHz. I use a Yamaha n12 because sometimes I need to work on projects at 44.1kHz or 88.2kHz. It's the last digital mixer I can recall that allows multiple sample rates.

I suspect this comparison would be much closer, if we could somehow bring the DM3 back in a time machine to when the DMP7 was new, and listen to them both. It might just be down to the fact the DMP7 is so much older and well-used, that it's adding texture to the algorithm. (Worn silicon? Drifted passive components? Clock jitter?) Could also be Yamaha tweaked the algorithm to take advantage of the much faster processor, with the much wider bus, and much greater memory. I'd keep the DMP7 for the studio (where that texture could matter), and use the DM3 live (where durability counts, and the difference would be lost in the house mix anyway). Either sounds great when you're playing through it. 😉👍

Great comparison. Thank You. Both sound amazing, but for this sounds I like more the magic of the 80's from the DMP7. 🤩

that´s cool... on my monitors the DM3 seem to have more presence in the low mids, sounds more full

I’m a little 50/50. DM3 seems a bit larger and transparent…and the DMP7 slightly denser/more opaque. Owning three REV7 I’m leaning towards the old. 😄 Good to see you’re giving my lld DMP7 a good home! 🤘🏼

DM3 is more pristine, but I think I would prefer the old version. I'm listening on a 4" mono speaker, and the DM7 sounds more emotional? That chorusing does something I really like.

Fetichizing vintage ADC converters has been weird enough in the last years, but fetichizing vintage algorithms is getting extreme. Either way I enjoy the music!

From this comparison the DMP sounds less bright but a little warmer. I think they both are great sonically, but the only DMP I could get my hands on in Holland is irrepearable due to the little bands that drive the faders, oh and its brain melted. Sucks, because I really need a motorized board and I too love the efx on that thing! So thanks for bringing the DM to my attention!

Damn! Didn't know Symphonic Chorus was in Mixers!

I prefer the new one for clarity, but admittedly it does have a little less color, by my ear.

That DM3 sounds really nice. But as a DMP11 owner I agree there's something nice about the character of it for some jobs. The EQ is clumsy to use, but the DMP records to tape well. Modern clean recording is less forgiving on old digital effects. All good though!

BRAVO!!! ❤.

Both sounds good, but the DM3 sounds a little crispier to my ears.

I much prefer the open sound of the DM3 here. That said, I would love to hear a comparison of something mixed on that and the Yamaha MGP16X I use myself. Which has REV-X and SPX effects.

The DMP7 sounds really cool, I love the low bit sound

Te lo meriti!

Well, the DM3 sounds "better", but the DMP7 sounds correct for an FM piano.

Pads much brighter, everything brighter on the newer unit.

Hi Espen, but you didn't play out both side by side where there is a lot of noise i.e. 3:06 vs 4:08. That is, at 5:16 you should have presented the tail with the DM3 (3:06). Someone below said DMP7 has more noise - that's just because of this editing oversight IHMO: only including the tail of the on the DMP7 in the side-by-side section. IDK why so much more noise in the source material at that point of the song but it's there on both. The DMP7 sounds better jelled esp. in the bass to my ears on Cambridge Audio DACMAGIC200m and Denon AH-D2000 cans. Thanks for the opportunity to compare them I did find it interesting. 2:54 DM3 EP perc sounds more bell-like than at 3:50 on DMP7 which is a bit more perc like; which I guess could be to do with dynamic range and recording levels. Again I prefer the DMP7, but that might be some slight clipping I'm enjoying LOL. [edited to try and get time locators in my comment working]

The bells clearly sound harsher in the DM3. The DMP7 does more dampening on the high frequencies.

The DMP7 to me ears sounds a little less clear than the DM3, but both sound really good. The DM3 sounds more modern, would one would expect since it has the benefit of 40 years of technology advances, but I don't think I would throw out the DMP7 unless you would like to donate it me. Good video!

I'd let vintage go with vintage when it comes to sound. Just my opinion. Workflow and hands on feeling is another aspect. When it comes to music i'd let it through the modern equipment if it is more honest.

I liked what I heard @ :30 (what reverb?)but the fx were reduced when the comparison started. It is amazing how well the DMP-7 holds up. The 3 is like not having a mixer connected at all. The 7 has a slight rounding. Keep both until 7 dies

Those FX on the 7 remind me of my Yamaha SPX90 fx box

I'm surprised how good DMP7 stood against the DM3. I had DMP7 back in the days but was never convinced by the sound of it. It provided rock solid reliability but always seemed to lack the high end shimmer in terms of sound quality (which I was able to hear much more than I do nowadays). I wonder if you have used the high end Emphasis function?

I missed out on the DMP-7 (though I just about would have sold a kidney to have one back in 1987)… I passed on the whole DMP series because they were just so expensive and I had an SPX-90 and an SPX-900. Aside from the very desirable built-in FX of the DMP series, what was WAY more appealing to me was the ability to have memory locations for snapshots of the ENTIRE mix and have them re-callable with a MIDI PG message. I always enjoy your vids, but thought you might address this feature… can the DM3 recall total mixes using MIDI PG commands?

I wonder how the effects on the interim yamaha digital mixers compare? (01v, 02r, 03d, etc)

I do like the DM3 better, somehow the DMP7 sounds a bit dull... maybe the circuits color a bit?

There is definitely a difference. I prefer the DMP7 since its seems little more more bass heavy & less sterile sounding. I "only" know Yamaha's Symphonic Effect from high-priced Electones in digital, and in analogue from my GS2. On the latter its called Ensemble. Both versions create an extraordinary pulsating effect Is it possible to get an Ensemble Effect from the mixers?

Grazie.

Can you explain how the new Yamaha works in your production flow compared to the ssl 6?

Dm7 are the secret weapon form Europe and the final countdown even in the star from the dark tour they use dm7 wo make the mix of the secuence and the keyboards

old DMP7

Dmp7 is old i can hear but the dmp3 is better but in depth i think dmp7 has it still:)

DM3 sounds more spacious, but could that be evened out by using different settings?

Well, difficult choice. Almost impossible actualy. The new DM3 sounds, in my hears thru KZfaq, "clearer", more defined and "larger" but, but, the old DMP7 adds this kind of blur which can be realy poisitiv for effects in certain mixes and situations. I a perfect world the DM3 should have a "I want to sound vintage" setting.

The dmp7 wins butt both sounds good

DM3 is much more brighter, the DMP7 is smoother. For my opinion is the DM3 to bright, needs a little high cut.

What’s your decision? Selling DMP or keeping?

Yeah, you could probably dump the DMP7. The DM3 sounds wonderful; better than the DMP7.

Hi Mr. Kraft, it seems like a lazy question but I couldn't find any answers anywhere and Yamaha is known for its lazy manual writing: how is the DM3 with automated EQ and panning? The answer will amount to a dealbreaker - or not, especially regarding panning.

I believe the DMP7 has the equivalent of three SPX90s in it? FM digital piano is not really a good test source. Natural or acoustic instruments or voice are much more revealing. Also dynamic material like drums and bass give a better sense of dynamic range and depth.

String synth sounds like a JX8P

Can you please share the settings for each?

Don't sell it! I owned a DMP7 in the early 90's. A sexy, powerful (for it's time) machine but not great sounding. I upgraded to a ProMix 01 and sound improved significantly. After that an 01V96 (which I still own) and now using the awesome DM1000. If you can find a well cared for DM1000 or DM2000 those are the best value in quality digital studio mixers today. Suck for live mixing though. I sold my DMP7 to a live mix engineer who used it as an effects rack / utility mixer along side his analog console.

Strangely, I think the DM3 adds more to the sound than the DMP7, in a way I don't like as much. The DMP7 seems... crisper? Cleaner? The DM3 sounds like it's doing a lot more to affect the sound than the old DMP7 is, which is the opposite of what I'd expect. Anyway stop doing videos about DMPs, I'm trying to pick up a second DMP11 :)

nooooooooooo dump it nooooooooooooo

Can't hear much difference.

Idk those sounds sound dated sounds like elevator music... probably better off Getting some boss pedals

No difference to my ears!