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Күн бұрынHaving already done battle with their respective MT-07 and Trident nakeds, it is the turn of the new 2021 Yamaha MT-09 SP and Triumph Street Triple RS to take up step into the ring.
One of the naked motorcycle segment's most esteemed competitors, the Yamaha MT-09 SP gained a significant overhaul for 2021 with a fresh face and its most powerful engine to date, but is it enough to dislodge that other big triple-cylinder favourite, the Triumph Street Triple RS?
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@AndreasBrOlesen 3 жыл бұрын
The Street Triple RS has Showa Big Piston forks and Ohlins rear suspension. Not full Ohlins.
@sidsmith8251 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I think they were thinking about the speed triple
@AndreasBrOlesen 3 жыл бұрын
@@sidsmith8251 Perhaps (-: The Showa Big piston is still pretty great.
@shahabaz.maharoof 3 жыл бұрын
Who wants a naked street bike on track? For track we have supersports, for street we need dynamic, fun and a playful bike and in that sense i think SP is the god of the game. Also the cp3 engine roar makes you feel that bike like a sex machine.
@Rabessey 3 жыл бұрын
(Don't let your girlfriend ride the MT-09 SP....She might dump you and keep your bike!)
@shahabaz.maharoof 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rabessey true shit 😅
@downhillupside 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get away from the Street Triple looking like angry Johnny Five.
@Mr12poopoo12 3 жыл бұрын
You can hear it scream iiiiiinnnnppppuuuuutttttttt as it flys past you
@guntherlamberts8243 3 жыл бұрын
Now I see it to! 😁
@PoisonousPen 3 ай бұрын
That was a selling point for me 😅👍
@Bs1ick 2 жыл бұрын
I cant find a good 2021 KTM Duke 890 R vs. Yamaha MT09 SP comparison video so that would be an awesome one to cover in my opinion! Great content on the entire channel
@dankeglock 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the Triumph Speed Triple RS and Street Triple RS. Unfortunately, Triumph prices are getting to be a bit much for what you get and, at least with the Speed Triple, the service intervals seem to be shorter compared to other bikes. Frankly, I think companies are adding unnecessary tech to bikes, which is increasing the prices for things most riders don’t need. There’s no reason to have multiple modes of companies use one good engine map. Given the long-term cost of ownership, I’d probably take the Yamaha MT09 SP.
@paulbarnes6124 3 жыл бұрын
But as you can see journalist promote got to have latest electronics !! That's were problem exists. Have ridden for 48 years without abs etc
@wirenut3020 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the technology is unnecessary in these closer to 100 hp bikes but I do think some of it can -if properly designed- be a lifesaver. Cornering abs? I love the concept if it works well. Slipper and assist clutch? I love it. Up and down auto blipper? If it works seamlessly I’m all for it. Rider modes? meh, maybe for the rain or a beginner who has no business on a powerful bike. Traction control?if it’s well designed and not too intrusive, it can save the day. Wheelie control? Absolutely for a 175 horsepower bike. A 100 horsepower bike? Maybe to keep a bike from going over on its back? It can be a good option.
@alexlloyd6112 2 жыл бұрын
i just dont understand the need for connectivity to your phone. useless tech i wish they'd stop adding...
@douglasalexander4348 Жыл бұрын
@@wirenut3020 Hasn’t it got 120 hp, not 100 ? Remember also, it’s light, so 120 hp in a 185k bike is pretty easy to wheelie out of control.
@JoeStanek-vu7rl Ай бұрын
Speed tripple is 180hp and $21,000 out the door Street tripple is 120hp and $13,000 OTD.
@sidsmith8251 3 жыл бұрын
I love these battles especially when it’s two superior bikes
@voyteq1 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about much closer comparison. Would love to see New MT-09 SP vs New XSR900. I'm still unsure which one I want. So that would be helpful 😎👍🏻
@mattprice3335 3 жыл бұрын
You've just reviewed the Tracer 9 GT. It would be good to see a head to head with the F900XR and one of the Triumph 900Tigers.
@visordown 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds good too. Cheers!
@cp4512 2 жыл бұрын
Booked a test ride on MT09 SP after watching this video. Tbh I was a bit disappointed. Then test rode the Triumph Street Triple RS. I bought it on the spot. Great video to watch but for me, and the way I ride on the street and for a few track days a year, the Triumph was way better.
@sa21539 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also looking at the same two bikes. Can you say why you were disappointed after the MT09sp test ride?
@cp4512 2 жыл бұрын
@@sa21539 It wasn’t a bad bike and it may just be me, so I’d definitely recommend test riding both yourself. To me the Yamaha felt a bit flighty and unsettled when I quickened the pace, and the finish of the bike didn’t look so good or of a very high quality either. I’ve still got the Triumph and have put 4000 miles on it so far; still completely love it and feel my pulse quickening every time I open the garage door! Good luck with whichever bike you choose 👍
@fernandopascualsedeno6191 2 жыл бұрын
@@sa21539 the Yamaha mt 09 is more funny bike, have a 94 Nm of 70 Nm Triumph!!
@PetjeWinner Жыл бұрын
@@fernandopascualsedeno6191 it definitely looks funny. Not in a good way though…
@therockreviews9007 Жыл бұрын
Plus the mt09 is ugly, the triumph is a beautiful bike
@lynnlittle8671 Жыл бұрын
I bought a very lightly used 2021 MT-09 a few days ago. I've been riding off and on for about 55 years, and NOTHING I've ridden has came close to this bike when it comes to pure fun factor, NOTHING.
@enderzebak2863 7 ай бұрын
you havent ridden the sxv 550 then
@Rabessey 3 жыл бұрын
I love the headlight on the MT-09 SP. It screams: 'I'm a NEW bike, not your old Dad's bike', and the LED just lights up the night the best.
@hexagonosaurus5848 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much the only good thing about it. Rarely there is so much hype arround such a mediocre product. This is a Harley of the naked world.
@douglasalexander4348 Жыл бұрын
@@hexagonosaurus5848 Except of course it’s extremely light with a stonking engine that turns you into a grinning lunatic. Triumph has smoothed all the edges off and is more refined and sensible in comparison. I guess your very sensible and a little misguided, as the Triumph is closer than the Mt to a relaxing Harley.
@hexagonosaurus5848 Жыл бұрын
@@douglasalexander4348 i was talking about the mt09.
@douglasalexander4348 Жыл бұрын
@@hexagonosaurus5848 So was I.
@hexagonosaurus5848 Жыл бұрын
@@douglasalexander4348 read your comment.
@vikhneshar104 3 жыл бұрын
Can you pls compare side by side the trident & the mt07
@kraxmel 3 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I have a 2020 Street Triple RS (also had a 2018 RS) and I used to own a XSR 900 and FJ-09. Think they're all great, but I REALLY love my RS. I've got over 10k miles on it which includes a track day and a 5,300 mile 2 week trip from TX to OR and back. I'd have more miles, but you know, corona. Anyways, it just feels right between my legs and much better than the XSR or FJ did. It's almost telepathic and a thorough joy to ride. I am, however, looking forward to seeing the new MT-09 in person and would love to ride a SP.
@RynoDinero Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about it now?
@kraxmel Жыл бұрын
@@RynoDinero Honestly, I still love the Street Triple even though I traded it last year. I would still have it if it didn't weep oil from the crank case cover and the head gasket. To be fair, the oil level never dropped, but I don't like riding a bike with oil on the engine. I ended up getting the MT-09 SP and really like it. Not as much as the Street Triple, but close.
@andy3d1 2 жыл бұрын
Which Bike was more comfortable suspension wise on the street
@peterr9685 2 жыл бұрын
I've been riding a Speed Twin in the traffic and the low down power and small size is FUN if you like to launch every light and split to the front of all traffic! I am organising a test ride, but i am curious, what do you think the Mt09SP would be like if 30-40% of its life was commuting?
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
It's fine for city riding and great on the twisties but being a naked, motorway riding above 70mph is certainly not as fun... unless you really enjoy being wind blasted. A screen can help take it off your chest a bit but you will typically experience more helmet buffeting instead.
@marcusgeorge1825 3 жыл бұрын
A comparison including the R7, CBR650R and Ninja 650. You could add the RS660. However that’s arguably the benchmark now for the “650” class. I think it’s also time for Suzuki bring back a fully faired bike based on the SV naked would also be nice.
@marcusgeorge1825 3 жыл бұрын
@@austinno.1 I like your comments. Yes, but Suzuki can compete and still do today with the V-Twin. The first gen bikes came out with fairings (half) and clip ons, they recently offered the X with a more retro look and feel with a bikini fairing and clip ons. Suzuki is a proud, progressive manufacturer that has consistently produced race winning bikes. In the 600 Supersports class and the Superbike classes from when they where just 750’s (both in-line four screamers. I can guarantee that Suzuki won’t ever bring out a triple (it’s just not their thing), nor a 270’ crank engine. But they can do what Yamaha has done with the R7, which would definitely be a great selling bike. Time to Wake up Suzuki! 👍😎🇦🇺
@justwhenyouthought6119 3 жыл бұрын
Tested both, easy choice in the end. Bought the Triumph, thanks.
@PetSounds38 4 ай бұрын
Nobody believe you, impossible to pick the boring RS After a 09 test.
@justwhenyouthought6119 4 ай бұрын
@@PetSounds38 37 upvotes v your 0........looks like you're in a world of your own 🤡
@fazer2747 3 ай бұрын
What did you like most about the RS vs the MT9 sp?
@PetSounds38 3 ай бұрын
@@fazer2747nothing, he's a frustrated liar. All the people who test both bikes picked the Yam.
@jeffreykneeream8013 3 жыл бұрын
good review no bias uh off topic a wee bit how’s that AGV lid you sportin 👍🏻❓
@danwagner6235 3 жыл бұрын
Compare BMW S1000 R 2021 vs Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory 2021, please.
@Penafort 3 жыл бұрын
The MT SP is amazing for the real world, except that fk headlight... I'm trying my best to like it but I just can't...
@musicfy895 2 жыл бұрын
depends on the colour of the bike
@sweetdeath5062 Жыл бұрын
It's like a PUG, I finnally found it cute with his ugly face lol
@tictoc677 3 жыл бұрын
i owned the prev model mt09 and street triple. I far preferred the mt09 on the road for its grunt abd the less knife edge dynamics. however I tracked the triple and lovvvvvved it there whereas I wouldnt have bothered tracking the mt09.
@tubejorrit 3 жыл бұрын
Owned a 1st gen str, after a few ktm's and a Z750 bought an mt09 but I''m now back on a 2nd gen 675R and love it far more then the MT. The MT felt like some weird mix between a street bike and supermotard but because of that it lacked front end feel. I also like the more attack focused seating position of the triumph.
@tictoc677 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubejorrit The mt09 is a purpose built naked. balance of commuting and fun riding. str was originally a daytona with flat handle bars added and some tuning so its almost entirely track focused just with an upright seating position. Better than mt09 on track but i found italmost a bit too flickable for daily commuting (if that possible!!) The new mt09 has a lower front (suspension dropped in triple clamps) so its going to have way more weight on the front as well as feel. Honesly I loved my str and I think its the nicest looking bike out of the 10 or so new bikes ive had but I kept my mt09 twice as long and if I had to buy another bike it would be this new mt09.
@ultimatemassive9501 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a lightly used 2022 Street Triple R and am quite happy with it. I rode a 2022 XSR900 during a Yamaha test ride event that was quite nice, but they're hard to come by, and this Triumph was priced right, so I pulled the trigger. To me, the Triumph is easier to ride as a daily. The Yamaha's throttle and clutch engagement is super sensitive and abrupt compared to the Triumph. Both fantastic bikes either way.
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 26 күн бұрын
Good to know 👍
@moacyrjetpilot 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 20-ST765RS and…. Yes, I’m very happy with It! It’s probably the lightest among others same-cat bikes so it “gets speeding tickets” faster! 😂. The only so-so feature I’ve to mention is that down-QS doesnt flow as smoth as one may consider it will/would be! Ohh, MT09’’s are my 2nd choice, for sure! 🍾👍🇧🇷
@davidpersson986 3 жыл бұрын
Great review - for me fun factor is everything and I want that Yamaha
@Rabessey 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to give you 12 thumbs up (at least), but it only took one. If it isn't fun, why bother? It would be a waste to use it just to commute to and from work.
@keykey3014 2 жыл бұрын
That's also my idea. Khkhh
@scottoconnor4111 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel. How about a comparison between Suzuki GSXS1000F and Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx
@tomdwyer5695 3 жыл бұрын
Do we think the updated XSR900 will be soon to follow and maybe a better looking version of the MT-09 for 2021 🤔I certainly hope so, great review 👍
@ganuvien 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love a revamped XSR900 but with SP pkg. Need that suspension and cruise control 😂.
@axelotl86 3 жыл бұрын
As a 2016 XSR 900 rider I would welcome an update.
@theguitarhero898 2 жыл бұрын
You got your wish! April 2022.
@whiterabbitt2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@theguitarhero898 the 2022 Yamaha XSR 900 is definitely a better overall value then the Triumph Speed Triple. Though the new XSR 900 is 425 lbs wet versus 410lbs wet Triumph ST. But 10lbs is really not that much of a consideration IMO. To some it may simply come between the looks of the two or not. I would go for the Yamaha XSR 900. Which would have a better resale value ? Most likely the Triumph, though Yamaha has a better rep for reliability and such. just saying.
@weekendriderss 3 жыл бұрын
That cp3 engine and it’s sound 🤤
@dannygernaat9961 3 жыл бұрын
The 765, also sound amazing though
@keykey3014 2 жыл бұрын
The sound on RS is better than Mt09 a little bit
@angshumansarmah6626 5 ай бұрын
There's nothing specific about a Cross plane 3 engine. A 3 cylinder engine must have to be cross plane to have an equal interval of firing. It's just Yamaha's marketing gimmick with a touch of their 4 cylinder cross plane engine. However, the Triumph's 3 cylinder is actually the one which is unique.
@danielcosta1987 Ай бұрын
@@angshumansarmah6626 not on this engine, just the tigers have the "T" plane firing order, not the speed or street (convencional crossplane) I agree that yamaha marketing is BS, 3 cyl bikes are natural crossplane engines.
@bharath9639 3 жыл бұрын
which is a better road bike street triple RS or street triple R? Any suggestions which one to buy
@fyorbane 3 жыл бұрын
Many reckon the R is the better road bike while the RS is the better track weapon.
@borkarms 3 жыл бұрын
R appeals to the Mind, RS to the Heart. But for all practical purposes and all that you can do in Indian conditions, street triple R is a great choice. Also Triumph has priced it phenomenally well in India.
@bharath9639 3 жыл бұрын
@@borkarms Thank you for your suggestion
@ndperson1 3 жыл бұрын
Got a 2021 mt 09 this year. My first triple. Put 3000 miles on it the first month. I admit I thought there would be more of a top end than there really is. Need a naked due to my back but kind of miss the supersport feel to the engine
@jordanwright417 2 жыл бұрын
The Last 2 gears are pushed back to 80% @ full throttle. Get a tune.
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
@Jordan Wright Where did you learn that?
@shannonmiles3553 3 жыл бұрын
Think it would just Amazing to have the 2021 Triumph Trident 660 head to head with the 2021 Yamaha MT-07
@hipsabad 3 жыл бұрын
having ridden both, the Trident would win that one, imho
@Misfit_FATDUCKY 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the MT-09 and I love it!
@Jaystice 3 жыл бұрын
This was sick but I wish they included the Duke 890r too
@sigi_9153 3 жыл бұрын
Duke vs mt which One is better? The look of the ktm is a bit strange imho
@shubham4074 3 жыл бұрын
890 would kill them both
@tubejorrit 3 жыл бұрын
And put in the new monster 950
@hipsabad 3 жыл бұрын
@@sigi_9153 and the other two don't look a bit strange as well?
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
@Sigi_91 The Duke is defo the more focused and ultimately better... but I'd still take the MT09 SP as its close enough funwise but sounds better and will be more reliable.
@crunks420 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the new Mt09, that may end up being my next bike...
@yonniboy1 2 жыл бұрын
I've a 2020 Street triple and my mate bought an MT-09SP in May and I must confess as a fun machine the MT nails it and leaves the Street triple behind up to 80mph when the Triumph starts to close the gap, the Triumph has it at the extreme top end that most people don't use and a "restricted to 150 mph" is nonsense on a naked bike as your struggling to hold on over 120 mph, the Triumph is still the better handler and has a much more premium finish but for smiles per hour the MT wins, but a tip for Street triple owners is to change your rear cog from 46 to 48 teeth ,the boost in acceleration is brilliant but supposedly drops top speed but as I've said its top speed is really theoretical so you really won't notice it but will the acceleration.
@PetjeWinner Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t that make the engine very high revving at highway speeds?
@yonniboy1 Жыл бұрын
@@PetjeWinner Not really as I pointed out the top speed on an unfaired bike like the street triple is pretty much unusable and the new gearing gives a much wider spread of torque so motorway speeds are only about 1,000rpm different.
@garychan927 3 жыл бұрын
what about z900 vs mt09?
@SudeepC1973 3 жыл бұрын
Worth upgrading from a 2017 FZ09 to the newest?
@pagadqs 2 жыл бұрын
for sure, it's a completely different bike. I'm looking to sell my FZ07 and switch to an MT 09 SP right now...
@adamschannel8685 Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@jasonbailey1166 3 жыл бұрын
If you factor in cost of maintenance, reliability, & dealership availability which bike is the better ❓
@shark11175 Ай бұрын
Yamaha, hard to get parts for a Triumph
@robertfekete4827 7 ай бұрын
One question. Guy who was owning an mt09 2019 said, there are vibrations,and your arms are getting numbed. What about a new mt09 2022?
@lateralus9244 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the narrator is mistaken; the Street Triple 765 is *NOT* "kitted out with Ohlins at both ends" -- he must be thinking about the Speed Triple 1200 RS -- or is reading from a faulty script. Triumph's website states that the Street Triple 765 has a fully adjustable 41mm Showa front end and an Ohlins rear shock -- for the top model RS version. I don't know the quality difference but the Yamaha MT 09 might just actually have the better front end here with it's KYBs. Does anyone know which is better; the Showas or the KYBs on these two bikes?
@danielcosta1987 Ай бұрын
dunno about the KYB, but i had 2 bikes with showa and they are great (currently i have the STRS) the biggest differente on this bikes is the breaks, triumph is just on another level...
@lateralus9244 Ай бұрын
@@danielcosta1987 Yeah, I ask a guy I know who knows a lot about things like this and he was partial to the Showa front end as well. Although, I do like that the KYBs have a 4th point of adjustability: the slow rebound dampening adjustmen, in addition to the normal rebound dampening adjustment. And I guess the new MT-09 SP will now have the same break equipment as the Triumph now -- the discs will still be 10 mm smaller though. 😕
@motosportadv8177 3 жыл бұрын
There has to be a Yamaha MT 09 SP in my future!
@Sabahes_ASMR 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video numerous times, and it really comes down to price and refinement. Do you want the cheaper MT09SP or the refined Street Triple RS? So me its going to be about the price. I can save 1500~ on the MT09SP.
@avrc9285 3 жыл бұрын
its very close. i feel that is splitting hairs in the end. There are many bikes in this category which will not disappoint some more expensive than others some more blinky than others etc. As someone many years ago told me and i think its still the case, a motorcycle you should not buy based on what's on paper only, you have to go ride it, see it in person and feel how it "speaks" to you, to your way of riding and experience etc. Staying informed and reading or viewing reviews is important but if you are looking for a bike you have to go ride a few before you make a decision.. Enjoy and stay safe.
@Misfit_FATDUCKY 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the mt09 and I love it!
@nandunanduz1472 3 жыл бұрын
do a comparison of mt09sp vs z900
@visordown 3 жыл бұрын
Noted! Thanks
@user-vo4jt2xj9n Жыл бұрын
Will you be comparing the 2024 Triumph Triple and 2024 Yamaha MT-09 any time soon?
@papaasare5266 3 жыл бұрын
Compare mt 09, tuono 660, z 900, Duke 890, gsx s1000. They are all street bikes and similar price bracket.
@R6Dave11 3 жыл бұрын
I work at a Triumph dealer. I have an SP on order. Loved my 2015 FZ09, which I heavily modded. Rode that thing like it owed me money. Most fun I've ever had on a bike and I've ridden just about everything. The ST-RS is a great machine but it lacks the fun factor for me.
@papamichailang 2 жыл бұрын
like it owned me money? Best line for the SP. Ordered one yesterday.Cheers
@R6Dave11 2 жыл бұрын
@@papamichailang mine's been awesome so far. Put an Akrapovic full system on and had it flashed over the winter. Just about to start the riding season.
@papamichailang 2 жыл бұрын
@@R6Dave11 nice, blood is boiling here too so wish you the best safe rides. Did u had it on the dyno?? Hope I ll have it by April. Did you put any protection on it? Im looking at sw-motech sliders
@R6Dave11 2 жыл бұрын
@@papamichailang Vcyclenut did my flash. He's done countless dyno runs with the new MT09. I trust his work. I never put sliders on my bikes. If I crash, it'll be wrecked anyway 🤣🤣
@ansesaal 3 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews and most of the stuff you guys present in general anyway but can't help to think this is a odd one... I really struggle to get these two bikes in the same bracket. Take aside bore, fuel consumption and a couple of other minor things I'm struggling with the comparison... Arrrr brain is spinning. lol
@connysieben 2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@benfarr6049 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2020 street triple rs, read all the great reviews did research etc..... I sold it after a few months, one thing no one seems to stress enough is how brutal these naked bikes are in the wind, constantly push on the chest shoulders head, and its not much more comfortable then a gsxr. It was light and ninble fun around town but I never enjoyed it when I took long rides, I am in texas could be the wide open areas with no trees and mountains to block wind.
@mayson2 Жыл бұрын
If you're a baby
@gk1racing685 Жыл бұрын
@@mayson2 he's right zero they suck on the interstate. Imagine what a hypernaked is like. I'd rather be on a BMW 1250 GS behind a wind screen...AND COMFORTABLE. So do you turn your seat heater on high when driving in mid-summer Phoenix? NO?...baby!
@detricklowe624 Жыл бұрын
True. It takes a while to get used too. I've only never owned nakeds. I once rode a Ninja 650 and I realized why other people don't like nakeds. It's hard to move from wind protection to no wind protection. I'll keep my Street Triple, but I understand that.
@bwxmoto 3 жыл бұрын
You say the MT-09 has 888cc, they call it a 900 obviously, last gen had 847cc, but on the official website they say it is 890 cc. Are they rounding up on the official spec now as well or is it really 888cc? Where did you come up with that number of 888cc?
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's 888cc... its not uncommon for Manu's to round the CC's up. 890 just rolls off the tongue better for marketing reasons. Pretty much all litre bikes are not exactly 1000cc either. ( ie S1000RR -999cc)
@lordgibbness 3 жыл бұрын
Good little round up. It makes me wonder if the mt09sp might also be able to compete with bikes like the Honda cbr1000r and Suzuki Gsxs-1000.
@lralcantara 3 жыл бұрын
no... the MT'09 es in a lower category.... MT-10 competes against 1000cc counterparts....
@lordgibbness 3 жыл бұрын
@@lralcantara yeah I know that. But it's getting rave reviews ATM, and those two bikes fall below the other litre bikes...
@anthonyosmond2493 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a Suzuki gsxs 1000 for two years put 16000 miles on it, nitron shock in it, remapped etc, yes it was very quick but you had rev it hard and it still had a horrible hole in the midrange, the mt is far more fun at low revs and hence low road speeds, as you are not chasing revs, I did silly speeds on the Suzuki as essentially it's derived from a gsxr1000 sports bike. The Yamaha is much better for the road and actually quicker 0 to 100, where it counts.
@shanemeek81 3 жыл бұрын
Great Reviews. Would be interesting to see your thoughts in comparison to the new KTM 890 Duke. The reviews I’ve viewed so far by some major bike publications have it in front of both the MT, Triple and even the new Monster. I love the new MT, but for me it just didn’t excite me like some of the previous bikes I’ve owned. Thanks for your input , it’s an awesome machine and a move in the right direction over the previous model.
@hipsabad 3 жыл бұрын
i've ridden all three and i like the KTM best
@trevorpeel3003 2 жыл бұрын
i also have ridden all three,the ktm is mental,it rides and feels more like a striped down and tuned track bike (and on closer inspection some of the work seems it was done in a garden shed) but defo the fastest of all 3 from point a to point B as i said mental,,a good bike for a short blast on a sunday,but would do my head in to ride it anything more than 100mls there and back
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
The Duke 890R is the more performance focused, best A road holligan machine. Look at the KTM forums though, lots of silly reliability niggles on new bikes... such a shame.
@shanemeek81 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhope3401 I must of got lucky then as ended up purchasing an 890 Duke. 20,000km , and not a single issue from mine. I’ve converted it to a tourer and there probably isn’t another bike on the planet I’d swap it for. 😎
@paulhope3401 Жыл бұрын
@Shane Meek That's great to hear, I'm genuinely happy for you. I'd 100% buy the 890R if I knew I'd have zero problems as its a stonkingly good bike to ride but there does seem to be a fair few people who do have a lot of niggly issues compared to the MT09 and street tripple RS... one of which is probably going to be my next bike. Think I'm leaning towards the MT09 SP.
@boostingaddict 3 жыл бұрын
Be nice to see a mt09 and a z800 comparison
@jaseamondo 3 жыл бұрын
Better handling is better handling regardless of wither it's track or road. So do you want a better handling bike or a better engine?, that's really your decision . Or you could get the KTM 890r which is probably better in both departments ...........but notoriously unreliable.
@jaseamondo 3 жыл бұрын
@@austinno.1 I haven't ridden the 890r but most reviewers do say the engine is really great, I like the top end on the 765 as well but I think in most real world riding the lower down grunt is preferable. hey I might miss the top end if I didn't have it, so it's definitely open for debate.
@jaseamondo 3 жыл бұрын
@@austinno.1 well I came from a 636cc sports bike to the triple, so I guess that says it all really.
@anthonyosmond2493 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about torque gentlemen and fun on the road at sensible speeds, I bought the MT09SP, Also dealer network, Servicing..etc.. I have a Ducati as well which will be going. I love the Yamaha it's just hooning fun.
@bradallen9551 3 жыл бұрын
you bought the SP? are you in the US? i'm in the US and it doesn't seem they are here quite yet...
@anthonyosmond2493 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the SP, only one available they are very hard to get in the UK, lots of Yamaha motorcycle s are stuck on the ship that jammed the Suez canal. Also Yamaha EU get pick of the bikes before they come to the UK, I absolutely love mine fantastic bike
@keykey3014 2 жыл бұрын
That would be great when you have both of them, Yamaha and Ducati. The same to you. Specially Yamaha❤
@HumblePeon2 2 жыл бұрын
is the mt09 suitable for someone that has been riding for about 18 months? What experience level do you think is required before considering this bike?
@anthonyosmond2493 2 жыл бұрын
@@HumblePeon2 umm it's a very rapid bike I would recommend an mt07 or sv650 instead for that level of experience
@surajbhosale3459 2 жыл бұрын
Does MT09 has Traction Control?
@lazyenword 2 жыл бұрын
yes same as r1 electronics 6 axis IMU
@yesJLY 3 жыл бұрын
We are eagerly waiting for your comprehensive and informative MT-07 vs Trident 660 comparison
@DB-sd3cw 3 жыл бұрын
Why is there always some limp-wristed beta who's fascinated by the smaller and slower bikes
@yesJLY 3 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw surely you meant to comment to something else as both the MT-07 and Trident 660 are capable of speeds well over 100 to 120+MPH. You are forgiven, ride on🏍
@hipsabad 3 жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw takes one to know one: "fascinated"?
@undecodable6145 3 жыл бұрын
Compare the brutale 1000 serie oro and the streetfighter v4 😊
@visordown 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! We will try
@undecodable6145 3 жыл бұрын
@@visordown also the touno 2021 factory and the speed triple rs 2021
@visordown 3 жыл бұрын
That's another good one. Noted! Thank you very much
@undecodable6145 3 жыл бұрын
@@visordown I love your channel and your site, I learned a lot and I trust it and I will would like to see a difficult comparison which is the zx10rr and the v4r for track only. Thank you very much guys.
@visordown 3 жыл бұрын
That's very kind! Cheers
@gribbittt 2 жыл бұрын
if you have enough budget and love 3cyl, just get mv agusta or SPEED triple not str. and if you don’t, just pick mt. i’ve ridden all three bikes but mt has the most reasonable price. and hell yes it’s pure fun bike for road.
@piersmoore-ede8444 3 жыл бұрын
This is just a load of old footage with a voiceover. Sorry guys, not cutting it. I would rather see a phone-cam and a decent reviewer than this. Complete waste of an opportunity to really compare two great bikes.
@Jim-su7en 7 ай бұрын
Did he say the Yamaha has an improved Frottle ?
@nicoleheaney3090 Жыл бұрын
We need a new comparison from the New XSR900 and The new 2023 Street Triple R!
@ReQuiem_2099 2 жыл бұрын
It would seem like the KTM 890 Duke R would be the obvious 3-way comparison. Sitting right between the two, providing the best of both worlds, while arguably doing better than both at their own strengths. Gobs of class leading low end torque, peaking 3k RPMs lower than the Triumph, running just a bit higher up the revs than the MT-09, while matching the Triumph's peak HP, 2.5K lower. Arguably equal or better suspension and electronics than both bikes, and a middle ground seating position that's neither overly track committed, or too relaxed. All while only being 5 lbs heavier than the Triumph, and 12+ lbs lighter than the MT-09.
@PetjeWinner Жыл бұрын
And every month in the workshop
@ReQuiem_2099 Жыл бұрын
@@PetjeWinner Yes. Because Triumph has such a great reputation for reliability...
@easycompany979 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't bike reviewers drag race the bikes? I'd intrested in which is faster. It could even be a deciding factor in which one someone would go for !
@jacob_1866 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure street triple is faster
@hexagonosaurus5848 Жыл бұрын
The Triumph is lighter and has more power.
@worldhello1234 3 жыл бұрын
@2:58 Öhlins is just a brand. What matters is the result. :)
@user-sw2lv3zp6o 3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha hands down.
@shreyanschougule1298 3 жыл бұрын
Which is best? 1. Kawasaki Z900 2. Triumph street triple R
@keykey3014 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. MT09 win
@freebehindbars8654 3 жыл бұрын
890R enters the chat. I got bored with the Triumph, even those it’s a fantastic bike, just lacks the smile factor. The SP looks appealing due to the price, about it.
@jasonbailey1166 2 жыл бұрын
Compare the mt09 with the Kawasaki 900 please
@kiwicanuck5459 3 жыл бұрын
street triple does not have ohlins in the front, it has showa. bloody good showa mind you. street triple any day over the yamaha.
@noelchristophersanchez3863 3 жыл бұрын
Mt09sp simply the best for me..
@connysieben 2 жыл бұрын
ok I ride Triumph and am SOOOO happy. I wonder why the Streety always gets compared to much biggere bikes ? Is that fair ?. I see that again and again....
@marekwisniewski78 Жыл бұрын
Due to the similar price and performance. Do you think it should be compared to MT-07?
@connysieben Жыл бұрын
@@marekwisniewski78 you cannot compare the both, The MT-07 is simpler, has 70 PS compare to 100 PS is maybe better for a Beginner, my Husband says its a bit more boring. I am a Beginner and started with the Streety. I love her,a very strong machine easy to lean and not to heavy, so it depends on your taste 🙂
@lenbertrand6412 Жыл бұрын
The choice comes down to rider preference!.... The Yamaha is the better hooligan's choice with more torque and is wheelie happy that makes riders seeking this grin..... The Triumph is a true Supersport in naked trim. It's a higher spec build with superior geometry, suspension, brakes and makes more power that will out handle and turn faster lap times than the Yamaha.
@nabahmadi5012 10 ай бұрын
So.... Laser guided missile vs gattling gun?
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
Both manufacturers are jerks for not offering fully faired versions....all of which can likely be blamed on marketing assbites who dont care about anything but trying to manipulate buyers into more premium priced (BIGGER) bikes by denying whatever is lusted after on the lower pricepointed machines ...these fools have ruined countless oportunities that otherwise would very likely sit on showroom floors
@davidor3502 Жыл бұрын
The triumph comes with way more long term issues. Engin stalling, gear misread, oil leaks..and on and on.. too bad, would have really enjoyed it.
@SirMountainpass 3 жыл бұрын
The « slightly compromised handling of the previous SP » - I strongly disagree, especially with the S20 swapped for the S22 which truly transform the bike. Also, adapt the suspension setting to your specific weight and you have a very agile and yet stable winner on the twisties 😉🏁🏁
@Steve-motorcycles 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the 2020 SP was a sweet handling bike, the new one does take it up a level though
@MotoGuzziMoto 3 жыл бұрын
It is a common theme amongst journalists that wouldn't know how to set up a bike. They just ride it straight out of the box and sometimes even say they dont want to change anything so as to give the viewers an impression of how it comes "standard". Such BS for bikes of this calibre. A change of tires, firming up the suspension (not required so much for the SP), lowering the triple clamps on the forks to get steeper rake (the ST is already set with a steeper rake), maybe different handlebars and a steering damper depending on how far you want to go. An inexpensive set of changes and totally transforms the bike. In all these years of the MT09 since 2013, not one journo has bothered.
@SirMountainpass 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-motorcycles Right, the 2021 SP is upping the ante from a very decent 2020 SP handling level👍
@Steve-motorcycles 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotoGuzziMoto lowering the triple clamps a tad I found transformed the previous SP
@SirMountainpass 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-motorcycles It pays to get involved to a point where the set up of the suspension fits your weight and riding style like a glove 😎🏁
@greendemon4773 2 жыл бұрын
Triumph all Day 🤙
@lovelessissimo 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, the Z900 is the best bike for the money.
@Steve-motorcycles 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍😂😂
@surajbhosale3459 2 жыл бұрын
Ducati Monster 2021 vs Yamaha MT09 Triumph Trident 660 Vs Yamaha MT07
@EEDad401 3 жыл бұрын
Love them both. Yamaha gets the edge.
@wilhelmdane1230 3 жыл бұрын
Warum nicht auf Deutsch ??? Warte Sehnsuechtig darauf .
@ChrisLoew Жыл бұрын
How are they to maintain? Get a key replacement? Valve adjustment? Who actually owns these and cares?
@danielcosta1987 Ай бұрын
Yamaha is a jap bike so... very reliable and cheap to mantain, the street has a very reliable engine, and from my experience, no issues, maintenance is twice the price as a japanese bike.
@rajrajmvit Ай бұрын
If you compare now with the street triple RS 2023..yamaha dont even come close..got my street triple cosmic yellow and loving it ❤️
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 26 күн бұрын
Have you ridden the MT as a comparison?
@rajrajmvit 21 күн бұрын
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve sadly we dont get mt in our country only mt03 and yamaha is busy selling scooters in our country 😂
@calipulaco2440 3 жыл бұрын
GUNDAM MECHA Yamaha MT 09
@VinayKumar-db4qz 3 жыл бұрын
MT-O9 is pure awesomeness, I am not a fan of Triumphs, they are very well built like the Japanese machines.
@dsofe4879 2 жыл бұрын
Fit and finish is great, but reliability is nowhere near japanese levels with Triumph. A German magazine went through two replacement engines on their way to 50,000km on a Street Triple. IIRC, it dropped a valve into the cylinder, seizing and destroying the engine... twice.
@JustWill22 Жыл бұрын
the street triple has showa bpf on the front
@bristowxavierlm 2 жыл бұрын
Street Triple any day.
@pnbjsedniieljosefigueroa2104 3 жыл бұрын
I love Yamaha NICE❤️😍
@barracuda017 Жыл бұрын
would love to see review comparing the 2021 Triumph Street Triple RS vs new 2022 Yamaha xsr900 - I have the 2021 RS triple and like it a lot, but wondering if I would like the new xsr900 even more ?? and there are none around to even look at, sit on, get a little bit of a feel for, forget about test ride.
@johnmcneel5543 Ай бұрын
Why can’t the street triple compete in the fun factor on the street?
@Steve-motorcycles 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and informative video 👍 The MT09SP has the Triumph beat hands down on ride-ability, fun and it is easier to live with and own. It’s an everyday do anything and do it so, so well bike. Having rode both bikes, they are really great and I’d doubt there is a wrong choice but on any road, the MT09 is the one I’d personally would have the better time on.
@visordown 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@SirMountainpass 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree - and the engine certainly goes past the 20’000 km mark without breaking down 😉
@SirMountainpass 3 жыл бұрын
The more sensible choice in terms of reliability and every day fun on the twisty B-roads und mountain passes 😊🏁🏁
@anthonyosmond2493 3 жыл бұрын
I love my MT, it's just great fun on country roads and the engine is a peach, plus it's a Yamaha therefore always easy to get serviced and dealer support, the triumph is a great bike but I wanted the low down grunt you get from the mt and personally I love the futuristic look's.
@fyorbane 3 жыл бұрын
I personally like the look of the Street Triple more as well as it's fit and finish. It still has the better chassis and is lighter. But the Yam has the more fun and gruntier motor. Can't go wrong with either. It's down to personal preference.
@Bugside 3 жыл бұрын
Last mt09 was apparently a uniquely wheelie machine coming out from a red light Is the new one so balanced it's now just a regular bike, like every other bike but ugly?
@Steve-motorcycles 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, you have no idea
@Bugside 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-motorcycles yes, that's why I'm asking
@PetjeWinner Жыл бұрын
@@Steve-motorcycles at least he’s got taste
@srtspeedy4983 3 жыл бұрын
I always choose thunder over lightning so I go with the Tuono 660.
@SirMountainpass 3 жыл бұрын
A year later you envy the SP riders on the steep mountain passes…
@jamiesteiger6140 Жыл бұрын
Why are the Yamaha colors so bad? The headlight reminds me of a cheap fix after a crash.
@prof.2248 2 жыл бұрын
Both great bike, but yamaha looks like bad ass;)
@jase8943 2 жыл бұрын
"The triumph seems like the ultimate choice" ...thats because it is. Ive owned both bikes and those banging on about the yamahas imu/ abs cornering its not enough. The very point of that system is stupid any real rider/ driver knows you dont brake during a corner you do it before. Its a riding aid for the uneducated. The Triumphs handling and build quality are in a different league against the cheaply made yamaha. The one point i would give to Yamaha is that its a far comfier riding position, the street you are over on your wrists.
@tg8150 2 жыл бұрын
“Cheaply made Yamaha”? You do realize that Yamaha is built by hand in Japan. Guess where that British bike, your beloved street triple, is built? THAILAND!!😂 HINT- Japanese built products are always the best quality. Thai products- not so much.
@jase8943 2 жыл бұрын
@@tg8150 i have a speed triple rr so back at you and fyi they are made in Hinckley. Ive owned both street and mt09. Your clearly just upset as you must own an mt09 but its my opinion and you dont have to agree with it. When you get a demo on a street ill be here for your apology 😃
@gazakelly9266 2 жыл бұрын
@@tg8150 Lots of Jap bikes are built in thailand " my ex honda 650r was built there , and the poor Finnish was noteworthy !
@PetjeWinner Жыл бұрын
@@tg8150 , it’s still cheaply made. Need another tie wrap?
@rajnarwade5231 3 жыл бұрын
India launch mt09 sp
@chirag4 3 жыл бұрын
when ? yamaha india website is still showing old model
@Vet6970 2 жыл бұрын
2021 MT-09 Has the FUN factor alright, at the Biden SPIKE in gas prices I think a lot of people will be on bikes now. I know I will...😊
@TrustUsTonight 3 жыл бұрын
Same with the Trident vs the MT07, the Yamaha is just more fun even if the Triumph is better spec
@antoineturpin9201 3 жыл бұрын
If you have got the money, get an rs660 and you will have fun and good specs :)
@Steve-motorcycles 3 жыл бұрын
@@antoineturpin9201 for RS660 money, the MT09SP is so much more..
@antoineturpin9201 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-motorcycles It will depend on everyone's expectations, I agree that for the price the mt09 or the sp version gives you a lot of specs and I do think it is a good value for the money but its lack in finishing touch must be pointed out. When I buy a street bike, that's a primordial criteria. Nonetheless, for the rs660 I must admit that we are paying a lot for the electronics and most of the negative point spotted by a lot of users are going for the rear shock that could have been better and the possible lack of power that some people might feel (from my point of view for a street use, 100hp that's convenient for me). So,the RS660 would be suited to someone looking for good aesthetics, goods specs, good fun, and a bike giving you a smile when looking towards its front panel.
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