Sales are also falling because everyone is broke with no disposable income. Inflation, student loans, and skyrocketing housing cost are killing the market for recreational toys

It's quite easy (albeit sad) to understand the demise of sportbikes: Aging riders moving on to more comfortable machines; ADVs and naked bikes being more and more capable when it comes to performance; Euro emission regulations killing in-line 4s; increasing cost of living - people in general have less available income and motorcycles are very expensive toys; and finally, in a society obsessed with being safe and secure, a race replica machine is not something most people are into anymore.

Pretty easy to understand yamaha didn't wanna deal with euro emissions and that's why we're getting the r7 and potentially the r9. There is nothing to do with anything else. No company is gonna wanna discontinue what's working for them.

Right before Kawasaki came out with the ZX4RR I had bought a 2021 MT07. I really enjoyed it but I was missing the sound of the inline 4. I owned a Triumph Street Triple for about 6 years along with a Bonneville. I found myself riding the Bonneville more after awhile. So I traded the Street Triple in for a cruiser. I loved the sound of the 350 degree crank parallel twin sound with Predator mufflers. But the parallel sound of the MT07 didn't please me at all. The bike was great but the romance wasn't there. Since getting the ZX4RR, I want to ride it all the time. The joy, it brings me is beyond common since but I will be enjoying it for a long time. I thought about a ZX6R but I don't think it would be more enjoyable to me. Speed isn't everything. I'll never get the 4RR to it's max. One happy guy.

Its definitely sad however, honda has re introduced the cb600rr in europe for 2024. Granted its not a 1000, but at least some brands are willing to make them. As people stated too, inflation, cost of living, crazy taxes, just a rough time and its a shame these companies are moving away from race bikes.

Just watched your Dads Gold Wing video , l didn't realise it was 2 years old , well l ride a GSX 1400 k7 Suzy I bought new in 2009 & Yes l still have it My first bike was a Honda Moped c90 then after 3 months sold it & bought a T250J & over the years had 4 of them then a Yamaha XT600 for 4 years then got the GSX , but always had my eyes on the water bottle GT750 ,l just love the smell of 2 stroke it put me on a high lol Oh l am 67 years young from Melbourne Australia 😮😮😮😮😁

What do you anticipate with MT10? Thanks for topic!

Pretty excited to see what they come up with for the r9. I really like the cp3 motor as well and I think it'll be a nice replacement for the R6(not the r1). I do hope they boost the power numbers with the r9 though and put it in the realm of the gsxr 600 and Kaw 636. If they do, the added torque of the 3 cylinder over the inline 4 will be a very welcome perk.

Someone told me this at a motorcycle shop he said there won’t be no more r1 I said no way I’m in between R1 or BMW s1000rr I looked it up they said USA were good but Europe is a no go ? So will this bike go away here in USA?

Why not 1100cc to compensate the power loss because of the upcoming Euro 5.5?

Still disappointed that we won't get the xsr900gp but I guess waiting for an r9 is okay too

Even owning an 890 is hard for me now

I’ve been at such a crossroads on buying an r1. Do you guys think there will be any updates or styling changes in the future even though it’s inevitable doom? My problem is that I want one. And let’s say I got one this year. But than for some odd reason it’s updated in 2025. I’d be pissed!🤣

It sucks, Im in my 40's and still prefer these bikes and don't care about getting into any other type of bike. Ah well, ill keep what i have for as long as possible and continue to buy older sportbikes.

Muy triste por la noticia que desaparezca la r1. A que apuntan las reglamentaciones. Es por la contaminacion o por favorecer a otra forma de combustible ?

I'm gonna Google this soon but why is euro emissions so important. Are they outselling the US by that much that they need to give up US sales because of euro emissions

Put a 1000cc single cylinder in the new sport bike👌🏼😜

Big mistake

The R1 and MT-10 are my favorite bikes.

Glad 1000cc they are not all going away we want power thanks to Kawasaki and Honda.. thanks guys for the information

They have gotten to expensive for the streets as a street bike

IRS is relentless and takes %50 of my income every month,,and if iam late i get threatening letters that my property will be seized if I don’t pay on time. Its absolutely disgusting the amount of taxes that are taken from hard working Americans on a daily basis. Vacation’s ? How when the same amount of money is due every month regardless if you make any income. IRS taxes are a form of stealing!!

Government regulations and skyrocketing inflation/interest rates are killing them

I bought a 2023 MT 10 and loving it. Don’t understand why people like them race style bikes on the street makes no sense. On the track makes total sense.

Good info @tflbike

meanwhile here i am with a 2022 RSV4 and s 2022 R7 60th anniversary edition LOL

I had an R6 in 02 or 04, it was an animal and it's still my favourite bike but I'm 46 now, have back problems and got told to get off sportsbikes because I was crushing a vertebrae in my neck, now I own a 2019 Ducati Multistrada Enduro, and this will probably be my last bike

Ok kase and Alex. What if they made a ev sport bike what are your thoughts. Absolutely phenomenal job brothers. You both have been doing outstanding. ❤ ya

They ruined it with the cross plane crank, the noise is hideous

I welcome R9 with open arms❤

To sum it up: the growing worthlessness of the currency and increase of emissions regulations are the main things driving everything. Personally I long for the days of 1100, 1200, 1300cc big torquey four-bangers in affordable naked street bikes, that don't need 1 million RPM to move.

As far as the CBR 600RR there is no excuse why we aren’t getting it because if it passes euro specs it will pass here. Speaking of euro specs that has been killing sport bikes for awhile now. If you want a Japanese sport bike get them now because they are going away. While the market is okay with the “replacements” if you want a true sport bike they are not a replacement. European manufacturers aren’t abandoning sport bikes anytime soon so at least we’ll still have those to choose from. For whatever reason the European manufacturers don’t have the same problem as the Japanese manufacturers do.

More than likely emissions regulations will eliminate the big street bikes.

Thanks to the euro emissions (control !) regulations

Yamaha never said they were discontinuing the R1. You guys need to re read the press release and read it slowly. STOP GAS LIGHTING!

A 600cc bike was good for 160mph but not with a P twin , more like struggling to get 135

Bikes are getting too expensive now. I'd pay 13K for a new model, I don't need all the technology to have fun, 120hp is enough

It’s still being produced and sold in the us so who cares

hello R9

Yamaha and Suzuki are slowly dying. Nowhere in racing and don't even look to be trying anymore

Nooooo! Hi guys! You two know me well enough to know that expensive sport bikes and euro emissions is not just the problem in sales. This area of market and lack of sales is also due to a lack of skill! Yes, even the 600’s. Sport bike enjoyment is best experienced on the track these days! How much fun can a R1 have on the street anymore. That’s why I teach.

00s - Sports Bikes 10s - Naked Bikes 20s - Adventure Bikes

Big displacement and less unnecessary tech and lower prices. R1 with the R7 basics is the answer.

Yeah they killed the top end speed on the middle weight bikes by going to P twins

I wonder if that fantastic CP3 could be expanded to 1000cc? Add SP suspension, and lightest possible wheels with supersport stickies... lightweight subframe, solo saddle, adjustable rearsets... It could be a dream ride...just lose 30 lbs and gain 20 hp...

u seem to miss the point. They are taking the r1 off market because no one buys one. Emissions has very little to do with it. Ofcourse it can easily be made euro 5 compliant by just changing a few things in exhaust, valve timing etc. Honda just released a new fire blade, which is obviously an inline 4 cylinder too. The market has moved to adventure bikes and no new beginner are looking to track drive 200hp monsters. The economy is obviously a mess too and I can understand that struggling companies has to sell that which is in demand, not bikes which only caters to proffesional racers or people who has more balls than brains. I wonder how many Tenere Yamaha has sold in comparison Yamaha r1.

We will still get them in Australia 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

Bro wtf are the people that can afford these bikes going to do in the future?! I wanna keep buying sport bikes all these companies discontinuing everything.

The r7 is a pos

The answer is...........buy a second hand bike. As if anyone here can get close to getting the most out of say, a 2008 R1 or the like. The amount of gadgets and 100 settings on new bikes is catering to people who don't know how to ride without music playing or navigation or any sense of being one with your machine. People see trees and can't see the forest.

Superbe 🏍

So used market it is…until those prices go sky high.

I dont care, im a honda guy!

It’s all about the big dumb kwads now. Too much power, too much police presence for a full tilt sportbike. Plus I’m getting old. ADV is hot also- need a tenere 900 to compete with the 890 adventure R.

Suzuki, Kawasaki and Honda are a better bike. Yamaha didn't want to deal with that. Good run though