I can't wait to get mine monday

and you get acoustic piano for free when you turn TYPE knob to 12'o clock (that's technically undefined position) see here: streamable.com/drxyp

Agreed, it's a little beauty, going from trippy ambient to dark Twin Peaks vibes on it, great piece of kit.

Exactly. If it makes you happy and creative, it's working.

Because KZfaq doesn't have a comments section, it has a complaints section.

I heard it's not present on the newer CPs.

@@savanaviolenta I just got one a few days ago and it was there

@@maztik8r good to know,I also got me one from the newest editions,but haven't tried it yet.Will do.

@CJ Davison the box it comes in is like 29 inches wide and the keyboard itself is about 21 inches wide

Does anyone know why it’s hidden/why they did it that way? Or is it some weird bug? Lol just such a strange omission

Hope you read this comment and can respond. Im a guitar player myself but came across these and they look brilliant. My question is, if you didnt have any keyboard experience but you wanted to get into it which one would you get? I really like the sound of the CP but Im thinking you might say the DX. Id love to hear your opinion?

@@DevRSVR I’m in the same boat as you… and I already own a Reface DX and a Reface CS as well, I have recently ordered my Reface CP and will learn the basics on that. I have no experience with any instrument, I believe the Reface CP is the answer to your question. That doesn’t mean you can’t start with the DX or the CS but I think the CP is less of a synthesiser and more of a piano… which I think is great for the sake of learning the basics of “keyboard playing”. At least that is how I see it - everything is very straightforward, you choose a sound out of a total of seven sounds and then you start learning/playing. The DX and CS are pandora boxes and are capable of generating virtually limitless sounds and are all about sound design. Of course you could treat them in a similar way but “sound design” is what I’d learn on them (as opposed to the basics of keyboard playing/music theory). Just my two cents.

This definitely can be an outdoor keyboard!

+RC-Jazzpel Williams Yep - this is why I LOVE it and got me one. I am playing different instruments at gigs and sessions and also love to play outdoor at the lake, parks, streets with other people. Also bought a Road Jack LP PA running on LI accus for about 20 hours! and realtively good sound ! Also has additional channels for Guitar, Mic, Audio + great Blootooth connect. Great to be creative and independent.

@@titatom33 I take it camping

***** Awesome! Glad you found one you like.

I also want this one. Well and the other 3

But was it worth 500 tho..

moor hertz Glad you like the sounds!!!

Wil Sargisson who wrote that?

how versatile is the sound? Can it be used to make unique sounds? To what extent can you manipulate the sounds? I'm very interested in this. The sounds that I have heard are absolutely amazong. But I'm scared there may not be much else it can do.

Well, you cannot maniupalte de sound source, per say. But you can alter it radically through effects. You can turn an electric piano into something other worldly. IMO, the quality of sounds is excellent, but it is indeed a small bag of tricks, it does not do very different stuff.

+Gustavo Alberto Elizondo OK thanks Gustavo! I have to decide if I can sacrifice versatility for such a beautiful sound.

can you produce a string sound out of its limited piano tones by using its effects?

s1nglespeeder no you would have to mess with the attack and sustain to do that. No matter how many effects you use you can still here the original piano sound for the most part.

François Ouellette The two that I want! Getting the CP first. YC is great, but sounds a bit digital to me. CP should be great for my jazz and prog likes.

The Studiologic Numa Compact 2 and 2X have both the electric piano sounds, and mellotron flute and string sounds when you update to the latest firmware. Currently trying to decide between a reface cp and the Numa control 2.

No, sadly effects do not apply to the AUX. It would've been a good feature, though!

Not everyone has space for a full size keyboard. This is a typical niche Japanese product. A keyboard for those in small appartment, as so many of us are these days. That said, i've now got all four of these devices.

I disagree. I have a small apartment. This is perfect for me.

Not really, no. The adapter gets shipped with the unit itself, all you need is a midi source and a midi cable (provided you're not routing the midi through your computer which then would actually require an audio interface with midi capabilities). If you're just using a keyboard/controller with a midi out connector all you need is a midi cable.

muzisyenportali They are from the Yamaha CP4 Stage Piano.

thank you very much

***** ...which have Motif sample-based sound engines in them. Perhaps a different sample set than the stock Motifs, but still Motif innards. A Micro-Motif, if you will.

elsongs I believe the CP-series uses new sample sets. CP1, CP5, CP4 and CP40 as well as Motif samples. I imagine anything but the main piano and electric piano sounds are from Motif.

I had a similar problem with my CP. I returned it for a replacement unit and it had the same problem when holding down certain keys. Long story short, I sent it back to Yamaha for repairs - needed resoldering on the board, I think - manufacturing issue.

Racks went out at the turn of the century for everyone except mega studios. Most people would prefer a desktop module or two, a laptop and a midi controller.

not true, most people got a small homestudio and running out of space..

I was debating getting one, gutting it, and turning it into a _pedal_. Gotta see the guts first.

doctor mix made a good video about using the reface CS (or any other model) with cubase. you can connect it, right-click a knob in a VST-synth, click learn CC, then wiggle one of the Reface sliders and it links the control to the knob in the VST and you can use it. So in short: yes

Thanks. I didn't see your reply before. I bought one, and yes, the knobs do send CCs (though you can turn that off). The CC numbers are fixed, for each knob, but that's not a problem if you wanted to use them with a DAW, I agree... More so, if you want to use them with a hardware device that responds to its own fixed CCs.

It has the CP-80 Grand piano sound. If thats what you mean?

Suspira theme by Goblin... Ideal tone.

there's a hidden acoustic piano preset on the reface

@@AndyKing1963 they know that. “As standard “ meaning no hacking

Yep. It spoils it, for me. I tried one in a shop and noticed I was missing notes, pretty much immediately, so definitely do that. I thought I was probably just doing something wrong, or needed to tweak something. Nope. It just does that. I've checked it by sending notes from my PC, with Virtual MIDI Keyboard (good free tool). I can use that to send a set velocity, which I used to confirm that it has to be at least 2 (two) to make a noise. The keyboard sends a velocity of 1 (one), very easily - press a key down slowly, and that's what you get every time. Play softly, not like the guy in this demo, and that's what you get every few notes. This is just so ^%*&$*ing stupid. They could patch it so easily - just add one to the velocity of all incoming notes, or bump up notes with a velocity of one to a velocity of two. A teenager, working from his bedroom, could fix it in less time than it took me to write this, if he had the source code, and the tools to build the software from it. The hidden acoustic piano sound fiasco gives us an insight into the mind of Yamaha execs - they can never be wrong, it seems. Presumably, they'd have to fall on their ornamental samurai swords, if they were ever found to have made a mistake, so they can never admit to making one.

You're welcome, jeharu. There are workarounds, certainly, but like you, I just wanted to play it as it comes, not connect it to other gear to make it work properly. If I hammer away on it, all is more or less well, but if I try for some expression or subtlety, it all goes tits up.

The toy piano sound isn’t weak people are just closed minded

@@wuh-huw9950 If i had to guess, i'd say that low-fi 'toy piano' was added as some kind of in joke. I'd say the development team originally planned to use the 'hidden' piano sound, and it was that which was being refered to as a toy piano by their higher ups. So they chose instead to include a literal 'toy piano'. Had they included the 'hidden piano' sound as one of the six, im sure it would have been panned by the critics - instead as a bonus, its accepted as extra unexpected feature. A quality piano sound would have had these keyboards walking out of the stores.

I don't think it's a rompler

presets*

Ooh that does sound lovely. I think I'm just going to make a bunch of screenshots and try to learn it that way. I must know too. If I ever find out I'll let you know, but I suck at musical notation and theory, so it might be tricky to communicate it :P

Sarcasm? God I hope so

LerLoons So funny that I almost went insane

£289 in the UK.

LerLoons That wasn't BAD? ARE YOU F'N SERIOUS? This is outrageous.

nope

still nope

Still Nope

Yes

Chears!, I will check it out

***** the way he answered sounded like maybe he didnt understand the question? i noticed this part as well earlier...i think theyre dsp generated and not sampled. similar to how roland aira works. but thats just my guess

Grant Tes Roland AIRA is actually a pretty complex idea. They took the time to model the behavior of circuitry (IRs maybe?). I didn't like his answer and agree with ***** about this... there is an uneasiness about the whole thing. "You can do PADS, and BELLS, and all kinds of wonderful tones!!" I heard very little about the internal mechanics (and people care about that today, given so many options) I appreciate Roland's approach. Yeah, it's a DSP, but they gave us detail on the technology behind it.

***** Hey, it's a real live Troll! Can I get your autograph? :)

***** New synths are always interesting to me. We're in a very unique time, very reminiscent to the synth boom in the 80s. Good stuff. :) I'm just playing btw. Your name said troll.

***** He's telling the truth. But when he says "CP" series, he means the modern CP digital stage pianos like the CP4, which are powered by Motif engines. :D

Ehsan Kamran no, tell me bout plug ins.

***** But where?

Plug ins don't last long.

don't they last long? and these synths are gonna last 30 years? these are all common new bs people are filling in our head to buy crap stuff now days...

James Reeno Oh yeah? I know my Native Instruments is still going strong after the lot of my early 2000s hardware has given up the ghost, so......

mickey thompson Boom Roasted!