I love how everyone is saying it looks too easy to use, as if we looking for dark souls level of difficulty in a groovebox....

Everybody ripped off Yamaha in one way or the other, since they are one of the oldest electronic music hardware instrument creators.

Only eight of the OP-Z's 16 tracks are for audio. The others control various performance parameters, including one for the lights show.

It’s 399 everywhere. You should probably mention that.

Price is $399.99 plus tax if you pre order, which is a fantastic price for a piece of gear that is pretty complete before any firmware updates. A lot of the concepts are taken from Elektron while the form factor is teenage engineering. Plus it really allows the user to just use it in strictly stand alone form, but if you use an iPhone, iPad, or computer you can really do a deep dive in the functionality of the Seqtrak. It’s a piece of gear that you can mold to many different workflows quite easily. I mean not but 6 weeks ago people lost their minds about a piece of gear that was clearly incomplete and woefully limited, and now presented with what looks a winning piece of hardware people are skeptical.

Well, it is Yamaha so hopefully the product, build and quality control is much better than Teenage Engineering products

I think what's important is that big companies like Yamaha are at least taking note of what TE are doing, and aiming to play in that market. It probably isn't the groovebox I want, but then the OP-Z isn't either. But at least Yamaha are trying some new stuff. I'm hoping this means they are about to roll out some other new ideas too.

OP-Z IS 16 TRACK? - NOPE, 8!

One plus for the Seqtrak is that all 11 tracks are on individual midi channels and have a decent amount of control available.

A foot in the door to experiencing the OG Yamaha RS7000

I think this blows the socks off TE. Price is $399 as well.

Love how it looks like a big cigarette

This device is hilarious. TE becoming influencial in their dumb design proves we are all corn balls. Anyway, I want one.

I'll wait for the Behringer ripoff of the Yamaha ripoff of the Teenage Engineering device.

Yamaha was doing grooveboxes well before teenage engineering though......

WIll it sync with my DJX? It's name was "Phat Beatz" back in the 90's😂 I always liked Yamaha. You want a dirtbike and drums? Jet ski and synth gear? We got you covered. Good on them for making a remote groovebox for adults.

The SEQTRACK is only $399 right now pre-order. I pre-ordered mine from Kraft Music a few days ago. Sales dept told me it ships mid FEB. I went with the all black one. They also told me that because of chip shortages, it will not restock until later this year sometime late spring early summer. I would absolutely jump on this for $399.

i like this. i'm fine with Teenage Engineering remaining more esoteric if other brands balance things out with offerings like this.

I think the Woovebox is still the winner for portable sampler/grooveboxes.

I've always liked the yamaha products I've used. Build quality should be great, especially when compared to TE stuff.

Do you guys know if this has independent track length for the different tracks?

I'm wondering if the mini TRRS to 5 pin midi adapters are 2.5 mm rather than 3.5 mm, because I've only ever heard of one other machine that uses a 2.5 mm plug and there are only two options when it comes to the 3.5 mm TRRS to 5 pin midi adapter.s

With a midi keyboard- could be a portable trap beat monster 👿- maybe I’ve said too much

Yamaha is not gonna be able to keep up with the demand on these...

I wonder if we will get a wooden choir for this? 😂

Elektron A4 still waits for it's Firmware Update :)) I guess that I'll die sooner than this will happen.

Hoody and a beanie with plants in the room 🤣🤣

I have an OP-Z. It's 8 tracks only. 4 drum and 4 synth. The other 8 'tracks' are effects 1 and 2, lighting, video, tape, master (key), performance (effect triggers) and cc out. Not tracks. The volume fell off because I tried to glue it in with pva which hardened then pushed the plastic bit apart, breaking it, then a £15 replacement just got lost somewhere. I've kind of given in ordering things online as I have about a 50% success rate of ever getting the thing. The OP-Z double triggers every 20 or so button presses which is maddening at first but soldier on and redo the note you just deleted and it's usually not too bad. Kind of maddening though. Synth is limited on the OP-Z but the whole thing is really for sketching ideas in it's powerful but insanely confusing sequencer. I love the OP-Z and it's actually quite a bit smaller than the SeqTrak. Nowhere near as powerful though.

I saw this yesterday and thought “Yamaha bought T.E. ?” 🤣🤣

The added sound thing reminds me of the yamaha vocaloid keyboard I imported, it can hold more sounds, but you have to pay to load them in, on top of having to buy the few vocaloid options they have at like $30 per on top of them never adding more instrument options. It makes me think they are trying to do something similar with the seqtrak app, or at a minimum are trying to get user info by forcing an app.

But does it break after looking at it?

I'm very happy to be alive right now with all these tools available for me to use.

Here in Australia the pricing is different. The op-z is nearly 50% more than the seqtrack. We tend to pay more in general for music gear. I am guessing Yamaha have noticed they can undercut and capture market here.

This seems super cool and I’ve preordered one already. Always hoping for a new updated AN1X tho

$399 - I ordered the Yamaha one - yes

Seqtrak has a full song mode at launch, the depth of the sound design and the fx is off the charts compared with OPZ

I'd been waiting for this one. 😉

This looks like it will fit in the empty space on my Hydra Deluxe.

"Mom can we get some teenage engineering" "No we already got teenager engineering at home"

any time i see a video like this it makes me hug my polyend tracker

It's a big unit (34cm long!) so not one for the pocket. But the thing some should be concerned about before they buy is the weight, a dainty 500g.. It could feel like one huge cool looking empty box.

That desk seems a bargain at a mere $1599

maybe Teenage Engineering will take notes and release some products with buttons on controls that folk with normal size fingers can use rather than just catering to elven-fingered fairy folk with man buns and hipster round glasses

Do you have the seqtrack?

Something else to consider with both would be the midi capabilities when it comes to sequencing external gear or being sequenced from external gear. They both would benefit from playing along with other equipment.

Super cool channel and the best music news channel ever 🖤

When does it come out?!

Yo you killing me in this

It's $100 less than the OP-Z isn't it? I'm seeing $399 everywhere.

1:06 I died 🤣🤣🤣

I love the awm2 engine, i actually own a motif xf synthesizer myself, very powerful if it can be editable

That last 30 seconds was a struggle

5:20 ironically the usb cable that came with my KO2 Ep133 didn’t work and I’m using another non TE cable with it now.

What kills me about the op-z is that it’s very difficult to find a replacement battery. TE never responds to requests to buy a replacement

Opz sounds better??? What kind of drugs you're using? Have you ever played Yamaha motif awm2 (or do you know to play keyboards at all?), than you know the quality of sounds that Yamaha does. .... Man, no more comments ....

Ive used the OP-Z extensively for the past few years. I think where this wins is in build quality, sound design and sampling, although I dont see anything in the manual or the app about 85 effects? The OP-Z shines brighter in sequencing with generative elements like step components. Also the visual component goes way deeper on the OPZ, allowing you to create and program fully customized scenes in Unity. After a look through the app with this, it seems that its just a simple drag and drop of predesigned elements with no way to import your own. Maybe that will change in future updates.

love the grey-orange

What do you think about a bastard sort of fretless bass, guitar chapman stick sort of combo? What about a kalimba with higher (and lower) range? Why can't people figure that sort of stuff out? And I reiterate, I am a greasy man.

OPZ battery is a hallucination.

Deep dive this is not, but I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. It looks awesome. I don't know if I can learn something that actually has labels on the buttons

The OPZ came out forever ago. Makes sense this is better.

Was the AMW2 synthesis what was on the Yamaha EX series?

Funny - you must be working for Tennage Engineering

Bro. Yamaha makes some sick stuff. Be sure its loaded with cooler features.

i had an opz pretty much useless not even big enough to use as a doorstop

The Seqtrak retails for 400€ in Germany, that's about $430 US... how is it $600 in the video?

Thanks for your concise opinion.

Yeah but Yamaha offers actual AWM2 instruments plus real FM editable synthesis. So for a rompler to be added to a stage piano it probably rules. Audio, MIDI & power all run over the USB-C.

Anyone want to compare the Seqtrak to the TR-6s?

I will wait for the Behringer OP-Z

Your flat, dry, business like delivery of perfect jabs at TE and marketing decisions is 12/10

why is that i only see recommended videos of a creator “doing something different”

And then here will come Uli... :))) I'm buying a pop corn already )

I bought an opz when it came out bc of its DMX capabilities and Unity compatabiliy. Literally nothing else does that. For a ‘music’ device the opz sucks balls. Mine is bent in the middle, the buttons double trig all over the place and the ‘knobs’ fall off and I had to tape them down not to mention the power button falls off too and I’ll prolly hafta glue it on to keep from loosing it. That being said…still, nothing can do the DMX/Unity thing so until then I’ll prolly just buy a second opz. Fml🙄

Discussion about?

Is TE going to move manufacturing to Taiwan like Moog?

Looks like they're using 3.5mm for midi. THat's probably why they say you can only use the included cable.

next yamaha steals VST when steinberg owns it... lol

All the OP Kilker!

Open source is as open source does? lol

I lowkey wish Ableton created a mini push that could rival the OP-1! This have been my sex fantasy since Push 3 came out!

Seqtrak + SQ-64 and you're set... aesthetics are complimentary

Visually I hate it. I hate the colors and hate the Yamaha dumb tag on it. Would prefer the branding to be more of the AN1X vibe, as big as the rear panel can handle. I am a huge Yamaha fan though and just sold my QY70 so this could be an interesting replacement. From what I can tell though, there is no sample slicing and that's a bit of a deal breaker... we'll see. Really I need to see this unit in other peoples hands because the Yamaha demos are gross sounding and I'm sure it's very capable.

Yamaha will never be Teenage Engineering until they release a useless vinyl recording toy that even their biggest fans cant defend.

To Yamaha's advantage, they are known for making great instruments already, with great quality. Even their cheaper guitars are better than the cheapest Fenders/Gibsons. The Seqtrek doesn't appeal to me, but I'm curious to see what else they might bring to the table in the future.

I think it looks great tbh

Yamaha did a Behringer 😂

Not for me, i'd rather buy an MPC-One or something but apart from the form factor design being a bit too much of a copy it looks interesting for people into tiny standalones

Dammit!! I was hoping it would cost $200. Waiting for Behringer version.

Will Yamaha get the same bash Behringer would get?

The last word in music consumerism

When you covered up the label, it looked like a Max for Live device.

i think seqtrak looks good but i dont buy gear in that price range all the time you know, I'll wait for it used. it kind of strikes me as a portable digitakt in some ways, better features in some ways worse in others.

The picture 1:03 is misleading - the OP-Z is 21×5×1cm, while SEQTRAK is 34×10×4cm.

Best comparison so far, at least without having the Yamaha physically present. I personally love the OP-Z despite it's flimsiness and tinny-sounding synth engines. It's array of punch-in performance effects are worth a mention. But if the Yamaha offers better build and sound quality it's probably worth it.

Haha yeah I hope it doesn’t bend or double trigger lol maybe they make a 109$ case for it and 2000$ SEQTRAK table too

Yamaha ripping off TE was unexpected... Can't wait for the Yamaha Choir dolls!

If only they could timetravel and bring this back to 1987.

How is that ripping off te?

hope they make an OP1, but better and cheaper.