Yanchep - Two Rocks Light Rail Proposal

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Yanchep - Two Rocks Light Rail Proposal

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Perhaps one of the most surprising light rail proposals for WA, the Yanchep - Two Rocks light rail proposal is definitely an interesting one! While the proposal itself is only a sentence long, it is interesting to imagine what this could have looked like.
It also proposes the extension of Joondalup line services to Yanchep which thanks to the METRONET Yanchep Rail Extension, has actually happened.
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@jamesclarke8564 20 күн бұрын

Trams or light rail only make sense as feeders to the side, just keep extending the main line in the direction is is going as the population grows.

@PerthElectricTramwaySociety 19 күн бұрын

Yes that does make sense

@josebohorquez2633 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the video. I moved to Nilgen 2 years ago. Yanchep is changing a lot. I just hope they extend this train to two rocks. It will be very convenient for me 😌.

@PerthElectricTramwaySociety 26 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

@BeauWhately Ай бұрын

About 10 years ago I saw a master plan for Yanchep/Two Rocks at the Wanneroo Public Library that had a light-rail corridor included.

@PerthElectricTramwaySociety Ай бұрын

Nice! Doubt it will happen now

@rogertull8888 Ай бұрын

BUILD A SINGLE LINE TRACK SO THE CURRENT ELECTRIC TRAINS COULD OPERATE TO TWO ROCKS, AND LATER WHEN THEY EXTEND THE RAIL SERVICE NORTH THEY JUST HAVE TO DUPLICATE THE TRACK, THEN BUILD SINGLE LINE TRACK FURTHER NORTH SLOWLY IN INCREMENTS UNTIL A DOUBLE HIGH SPEED ELECTRIC TRAIN SERVICE CONNECTS PERTH AND GERALDTON ALONG THE COAST

@Leo-hv9mm Ай бұрын

Awesome idea mate🙏

@rogertull8888 29 күн бұрын

@@Leo-hv9mm I USED TO DRIVE TRAINS IN WA AND BUILT HALF THE JOONDALUP LINE

@sek153 13 күн бұрын

why not just build a single track extention of the metronet to two rocks?

@PerthElectricTramwaySociety 12 күн бұрын

Yes, that would be more appropriate.

@Leo-hv9mm Ай бұрын

Interesting video. Given the low population of Yanchep and more so, Two Rocks, it's a miracle the line has been built for starters (thankfully though). WA has shown itself to be quite proactive in transit networks, more so than any other state I feel - so the extensions currently being built and proposed are in line with overall government plans to keep ahead of eventual requirements (given massive subdivision construction across all outer areas especially). I agree with your thoughts on the link to Two Rocks being an extension of the Yanchep railway rather than any other transit mode - with integrated bus stations at all new railway stations. This system has worked well on the main stations between Mandurah and Butler thus far, and as a successful tried and tested option would pretty much be a good guess as to what the plan will be. My idea for light rail (over trackless tram or busway) could be useful on the proposed links from Ellenbrook to new areas terminating at Wanneroo. I've seen the proposed routes and it would make sense for that to be light rail. The proposals for trackless trams if adopted (and I've heard recently that the decision has been approved but not to Scarborough - rather from Canning Bridge to Curtin Uni and to Cannington) would work in their own reserves on the seven routes originally proposed - all connectors from trains. As much as I prefer rail and light rail, the decade at least that it would take to build the seven routes is just too long .. over the few months all up to have the network up and running using the vehicle I rode on at the City of Stirling exhibition days in 2023. I thought I'd be anti-trackless tram, but riding that one at Stirling changed my mind. I'm looking forward to riding the tram connection from Whiteman Park station soon - once this is up and running, I'll never drive to Whiteman Park again! Keep up the good work at PETS. 👍

@PerthElectricTramwaySociety Ай бұрын

Glad to hear that you are excited for our tramway extension. We can't wait to welcome passengers on it soon!

@Leo-hv9mm Ай бұрын

I've been a member twice over the decades but paid work got in the way of active running work😭

@ViPa1111 13 күн бұрын

This route wouldn't even be in the top 20 if light rail or trams were considered for a transit route in Perth. Yanchep/Two Rocks is decades from needing any mid-tier transit. Core metro movement patterns should be addressed first. Things like the Fremantle to Airport corridor which has 3 highways choking with traffic (circa 150,000 vpd across the three corridors) and not one decent transit option along any of it yet. A light rail along Leach Highway or Canning Highway between Freo and the Airport would do wonders for promoting density in well located areas, connect people to key metro destinations and allows for high levels of transit integration across existing lines. The ability to use existing road reservations to achieve these links only further enhances such an idea.

@PerthElectricTramwaySociety 12 күн бұрын

Yes, there are definitely other areas that need light rail first.

@BDub2024 19 күн бұрын

forget about light rail for yanchep. buses far more effective. if you're doing any light rail then you need to look at travelling large numbers of people over a distance. For example Perth Stadium to Perth. Curtin Uni to Fremantle... Perth to Gnangara... Perth to Kings park and UWA/hospital... Perth to Airport... (sorry too late its got heavy rail). Also, look at utilising heavy rail for trams in areas of heavy road traffic and insufficient space. But locations like Rockingham Yanchep have no chance. Even Scarborough is unlikely.

@radicallyrethinkingrailwaysina 27 күн бұрын

Tokyu did a planning exercise in the late 90s for full heavy rail to Two Rocks and this is what should go ahead. Waste of time having a separate tramway - slower and need to change vehicles and require its own depot. All pretty dumb. Keep heading onwards to Guilderton and Lancelin. I realise this is a tram-fan page so this will go on deaf ears.

@vsvnrg3263 Ай бұрын

trams or 'light rail' are only mentioned in transport studies to keep greenies interested. the answer is always buses. trams cant really run on train lines of similar gauge. the head of the rail has a greater angle on train rail because it tends to keep the vehicles from hunting from side to side. the lesser angle on tram tracks makes for better running on streets with the sharper curves on street running tracks. sharing tracks has been done. it was done in victoria before sliced bread was invented when the vr ran a couple of tram lines. and it may have been done more recently in nsw but was stopped because it is not good for tram wheels.

@kyletopfer7818 Ай бұрын

Where was it proposed in NSW? Greenies is a pretty nasty term tbh

@vsvnrg3263 Ай бұрын

@@kyletopfer7818 , i cant remember. my recollection is of information from comments on a tressteleg1 so my memory might have failed me on the nsw info. i define myself as a sensible greenie. i define stupid greenies as those who are dead against everything that keeps the lights on.

@kyletopfer7818 Ай бұрын

@@vsvnrg3263 I think you might be talking about the Newcastle light rail project, where they replaced part of the old rail line into the City with a light rail line because the City of Newcastle is moving westwards anyway and there were a number of level crossings which were problematic, they discussed replacing the entire rail corridor but it was found that Putting Part of the Line in the Road and keeping Part of the rail Line Had more benefits, this might Change again when they build high Speed rail. And none is advocating a Policy where the Energy system cant function adequately to meet the needs of everyday Ausies.

@vsvnrg3263 Ай бұрын

@@kyletopfer7818 , no it wouldnt have been newcastle. i just have a vague memory of tressteleg1 telling me about somewhere ( besides the vr in melbourne.) and how it was not good for tram wheels so they used road transport. they were using the train lines just to get trams moved for special maintenance. and as for greenies, some are advocating a policy where the energy system cant function adequately. victoria is quickly running out of gas sources and greenies are against any more exploration anywhere. other states will have gas problems soon as well.

@kyletopfer7818 Ай бұрын

@@vsvnrg3263 yeah fair enough mate, it might have been in Victoria, it cant have been QLD or SA though as you mentioned they have another guage as does Vic actually, it cant have been anywhere else. But Just on the Energy Point, I think we largely agree, the Point I would make though is about the gas licenses - people are angry about then because they aren't for 2027 or 2029 or whatever, theyre for 2040+ after we already have to cut emissions by 70%and I think outside of WA 95% isnt for domestic consumption nor do Aussies get any royalties. Thats why people are pissed off, the royalties like Norway has on their resources could have paid for new Metro lines in every city and we could have largely decarbonised our national Energy system by now.