0:00 yapping 1:16 when does she get oki (alt: omla tries to do combos while recording and it's hard) 2:50 when does she get oki (actually) (summarized) Not from air combo. 236A/236C enders in the corner (dash bomb off 236C) 3:02 how does the setplay even work the bomb hits somewhere around frames 9-11 of your wakeup 4:03 wakeup mash doesn't work unless you're len mashing 3c 4:25 wakeup jump = you have to air block the bomb tohno can raw j8 the setup which is kinda funny some other chars can shift their hurtbox with shenanigans 5:33 the actual setup: cmd grab vs meaty 5a/5c/2b cmd grab -> 4.4k + loop situation 5a/2b/5c -> like 6-7k+ damage if omla doesn't drop 7:23 backdash airborne backdashes can work. however: lots of meaties have backdash catch built in if you do manage to backdash a cmd grab attempt, you are + and can (maybe?) 5f normal punish hkoha but it's a messy situation 9:53 meterless DP sion 623b smokes meaty 5c, first hit clashes with 2b which can give hkoha options if they react in time 2A~5D OS can beat most DPs (except ciel 22c and arc 22c) and punishes heats too (even if the shield whiffs) 13:15 bunker same 2a~5d os can react to wakeup bunker and jump block 14:00 wakeup shield discourages hkoha from using A normals to meaty, so can't just do the one OS but of course this is gonna lose to doing nothing or 50% to B/C normal meaties 14:43 "so you either wanna shield or you wanna present heat,dp,whatever. shield if you expect A button meaty. reversal/heat if you expect 5C/2B." 15:17 what happens if you block the strike tick throw situation. hkoha is +16 after doing e.g. 2a~5d os and then you block the bomb hkoha can walk up throw or walk up do whatever. if she normals after bomb she won't be so plus e.g. 2[c] feint is 0 generally: blocking leads to one tick throw situation and not backed up by bomb so not so bad (still spooky) 17:23 beating throw. 1st thing: FUZZY JUMP DOES NOT WORK bomb is a projectile, extra frames of air blockstun. 19f! (most things have 8f) 18:45 fuzzy jumping the cmd grab: sion is +3 but too low to the ground to j.a before landing so by the time sion lands, kohaku has recovered so hkoha is effectively +2-3 you can actually get cmd grabbed again when you land 21:49 safest escape from the throw wake-up (forward, ideally) jump, block the bomb, super double jump and yes, you die to meaties 23:50 char-specific stuff c-arc can dash through koha if she expects throw nero,hime,ries have big throws. koha can outspace wakeup throw with her cmd grab but slight walk into throw will beat cmd grab chars with good dashes (sions and hisui) can even dash throw against cmd grab 25:00 "if you are extremely insistent on gambling" stall in the air after blocking bomb, try to bait an anti-air e.g. hkoha 5b you can get cooked by hkoha going up for a gAT and lots of other stuff 25:58 fast (