The symbol/trigonometry theory is cool..and explains why that teacher comments about none of the girls caring about trigonometry in like the first episode!! If trigonometry was literally the key to getting help that would be wild!

• Misty is a serial killer and her hunger for human flesh never stopped after they left the wilderness. She acts out a ritual with men who she "cares for" like she did with Coach Ben. Then she goes preying mantis and eats them. She's been doing it for decades and Coach Ben is the first person murdered, which establishes her modus operandi. • Lottie is the girl who falls into the pit, with either Tai or Shaunna replacing her as the Antler Queen. Lottie's delusions get worse as more of the girls buy into the cult, but Natalie ends up bringing them back to their senses. Nat leads a coup, where they decided the best way to issue justice is to cannibalize Lottie the way Lottie cannibalized others. • Shauna's baby is sacrificed by Lottie to bring about their rescue. The horrifying part is Shauna goes along with it. • Van continues the cult and harbors a grudge towards the others for killing Lottie, who Van has come to see first as a prophet, but later on the messiah. The postcards are from Van, who has spent the last 25 years growing the Church of Lottie Day Saints (possibly with the help of Lottie's parents). • They aren't alone out in the woods (purely speculation on my part. Nothing in the show indicates it's true). There's a different group nearby who embrace Lottie as their leader after she makes another prediction. The girls don't find out about this group until season 2 because they live a several days' walk south. The trek led by Tai was really close to running into them by the red river. This other group lives in an abandoned mining town and they see the girls as food. • The symbol is several hobo code symbols mashed together that basically mean "Danger. Do not go beyond this point." That's either because the woods are haunted or because the man living in the cabin was himself dangerous. As for specific parts of the symbol, the hook means either "Owner is out" or "Halt." The lines on the triangle and line going through the triangle mean "Danger! Not a safe place! Owner has gun." The triangle itself and its overlap onto the circle mean "No use going this direction. Be prepared to fight if you do."

Whoa! The info about the symbol is amazing! TY!

@@alzi2 FACTS!!!!

If Adams character is say 24 then everyone should know who he is and why he was drawn to Shauna if I'm correct about this that's pretty dark for showtime to do Old Boy style

I know this is 2 months old but when Laura Lee is giving Rachel’s eulogy in e3 she talks about how she was really good at trig. Idk if I believe this theory but I think it definitely has some merit. Honestly, now that I’m thinking about it they mention trig a lot

@@ab_1066interesting. Also, “Trigonometry is used to decide the path of an airplane, from landing to take off in calculation of speed, direction, and slope trigonometry is used. During landing and take off what angle and what speed is perfect even when the wind is blowing is calculated using trigonometry.”

Also, we see Shuana telling Callie to do her trig homework, study for her trig test, etc.

I googled this. They said that the symbol they keep seeing might be a map. Pay attention to the overhead shot in season 2 episode 1.

I like to think they're better than that and have him go out in some unexpected way.

pls no he's my fave character

Yeah what’s the moment when everything splinters. The point of no return. Or, as Doomcoming suggests, is it no one thing. Rather, a confluence of unrelated factors that slowly erodes the young ladies’ realities.

Yeah that just further stamps how good the writers are at making an interesting show

She’s an enjoyable character but an absolutely revolting person/friend.

She’s one of the most genuinely unlikable characters I’ve seen on TV, but I’m always rooting for her lol. You can tell a lot of her actions stem from a deep desire to be liked which is relatable to most of us at some point.

😳

Wait this makes sense because Lottie's dad is the one who paid for the private plane!

woah !!!! i like this one a lot !!

Maybe Lottie's parents eventually become fully converted believers in Lottie's power and are the first members of the Lottie cult, and they didn't show that yet in the series. Trippy. Would that make the prescription pills part of some sort of an act/strategy?

@@samvolpe2542 omg

I think the creators have confirmed that we'll see adult Lottie in s2.

They put out a casting call for Adult Lottie

I tbink we’ve son enough supernatural in lost so this would be better without the supernatural element

I thought at the end of the last episode when Nat got taken the bank women left her a vm saying lottie was following her? Lottie is defo alive

The terrifying mayhem that happens in the doomcoming (were they really just shrooms or did it make them all more connected with the spirits/forest somehow?), and the fact that they are already all on board with starting a spoken food ritual when they eat the bear in the finale, is a sneak peek of what we'll get in season 2, for sure. I feel like season 2 is going to start with showing us a LOT more about Lottie, both in the wilderness and in the present (since we now know she's still alive). In the 1996 timeline they've all just seen her apparently use some kind of power over the bear, so who wouldn't listen to her? Lottie has to be responsible for at least STARTING the cannibalism rituals.

If that's the case, the real question is "How did Lottie get out of there?"

Lottie is my favorite, absolutely gorgeous too!

I think the cult is the big bad in season 2 and lottie shows up toward the 2nd to last or last episode and becomes the big bad season 3. Or is the actual big bad and gets locked up in a psych ward at the end of the season just to return in season 3

Nah I’m jacking she decided to stay

It makes the most sense

She said what we all say by mistake 😂

Wait, they are not on an Island???

@@captaindesperatehousewife7138 theyre like deep in the canadian wilderness

@@kieranwatty4136 Oh ok lol. I thought they were stuck on an island

me too but I guess I was affected by Lord of flies

Taissa would be furious She says "We're not on an island" like twice in the show 🤣

i thought lotti as AQ but it seems too obvious. i changed answer to Tai.

Okay so I’m thinking the same thing…. BUT obviously lotties hair would be soooo long what if the antler queen cut off lotties hair and that’s why the antler queen has the weird tied off hair! Because it was lotties and they cut it off and it’s part of the sacrifice? Idk just a thought.

@@smellybuttface8349 ive read that...that the hair is cut off from victims. its so unfair to have to wait so long.

@@smellybuttface8349 makes alot of sense!

I think the AQ is very possibly Taissa.. also we don't know how Van fits in as an adult she is most likely still alive and in contact with Taissa, Van is possibly in on the creepy altar hidden in the basement. Lottie might seem crazy but she's definitely not the only one!!

Great catch

im thinking they eat the baby in season 3

@@mb-bc9qs something I've thought about since the beginning is that while they could definitly be cannibals for sustenance there's also the ritualistic aspect and a baby could fit into that part.

Heck maybe it's Shaunas kid doing all this ( the baby born while they were stranded) . She had the baby at some point. They were their 19 months so that's a yr and 7 months. Maybe they didn't eat the baby, but when they were rescued the baby wemt to authorities and the foster care system.. Or maybe they do eat the baby. So maybe it was still born. Heck I dunno. They obviously don't want something getting out for everyone to find out.

Maybe the "present day" isn't necessarily 2022. Could be ten years ago

@@flip65515 They said it's been 25 years since they got stuck in the wilderness so it was 2022.

While that is possible, I feel it would greatly annoy and even potentially antagonize the audience if it turned out that was a dream sequence. It's one thing to have a dream sequence that you immediately tell the audience is a dream sequence. It's another thing when you wait over a year to tell the audience that it was a dream. I feel that would be a horrible creative decision.

I totally forgot about that. I think all of the survivors never moved past what happened, and are therefore still mentally stunted as teenagers. I thought she was just so depressed she was going through the motions, not really thinking about what she was looking at, but that would otherwise be the only other explanation? She’s a deviant.

It's a five hour drive from Red Bank, New Jersey to Concord, New Hampshire.

I mean like someone else pointed out, it's a drive to where Travis was living. So Tai would have had to be sleep driving which I think is impossible lol. Still putting my money on Lottie's crazy cult.

Just to play devil’s advocate, in my university psych class we learned about a guy in the 90’s or something who drove an hour from his house to his in-laws and murdered them… all whilst asleep! He had an extreme case of sleep walking and didn’t end up being charged for the murders because a sleep doctor was able to confirm he hadn’t done it consciously! Not arguing your point, just wanted to share something that I thought was wild when I heard it !

@@wearesatellites91 I learned about that case study in my philosophy of the mind class. Except it wasn't sleep walking , the man had entered a Fugue state/dissociative fugue state . It is when "someone temporarily loses their sense of personal identity and impulsively wanders or travels away from their homes or places of work for periods of hours, days, or even weeks.. They often become confused about who they are and might even create new identities." It is usually caused by someone going through an extremely traumatic event , in Tai's case that would be the events that happened in the wilderness. And they are triggered by high stress situations i.e. the election campaign. What I find interesting is that they are sometimes accompanied by the establishment of a new identity.That could be what is happening to Taissa during "the tree lady" episodes. IDK. It would be interesting if that was the case.

@@alisapizza123 i think misty did it

Feel like this could also open up some possibilities around Taissa's sleepwalking/fugue state/dirt eating

I think that too!!

It is confirmed that adult Van will be in season 2

I know its been a long time but this comment made me laugh lol

Tangents and cotangents lol

Not necessarily, it’s super possible they use a body double on set as antler queen so as not to reveal anything to the cast, and misty just knows what stunt double is under the mask?

I honestly hope the title of Antler Queen is something that changes hands at some point or even changes hands regularly. I think an element of "who gets to be the antler queen at the next ritual" etc, making it something they compete for, would be a very fitting and interesting dynamic for the group (once the ritual stuff has been introduced more).

Well, she as in that scene. Unless they took great pains to isolate the actresses, she probably knows who was wearing that costume on that day. That said, it wouldn't be the first time a film crew had done a swap to misdirect their cast so they couldn't spoil something. That kind of thing can happen fairly frequently, and it can be anything from a costume swap to a line of dialogue swap. I mean, David Prowse said on the set for Empire Strikes Back, "Obi-Wan killed your father," and Gabriel Byrne thought _he_ was Keyser Some until he actually saw The Usual Suspects at the premiere. Film crews go to great lengths to protect spoilers.

They did use body doubles on everyone but Misty, so we really couldn't snoop lol. They don't want us to know yet.

the cult killed travis and they're going to kill van because they belong to each other.

i think it's also totally possible that misty is involved with the cult and might be helping them carry out lottie's revelations.

I've been saying this too there's no way she sleep walks with her eyes open fully conscious that's insane she has to have a disorder that affects her personality or gives her another identity complex

Well she killed the dog whilst sleep tai so maybe she could have

But there was a flash back of them together as adults. I’m pretty sure he was with Nat For some of those 25 years on and off.

Definitely a production error. A really easy one not to mess up, but alas here we are .

Another (possible) production error is that when Taissa mentions to Van that her favorite Spice girl is Sporty Spice, wouldn’t have happened in 1996 because Wannabe came out in Jan. of 1997 in the US. So it’s not likely that the girls would have really known about the Spice Girls, unless they knew of them before that song made it’s way to the US.

Does anyone know if Adams character is 24 on the show if so you all should know who he is Its not Javi

@@mykittenisagrandmaster4381 They never actually say or mention how old he is (and if they did, I forgot/don’t remember), but the actual actor was born in 1986, which would make him about 34 in 2021. No idea how old he’s supposed to be, but he’s obviously meant to be younger than Shauna. All of the survivors that were shown/mentioned are supposed to be in their early 40s.

@@biancaondatje8639 I'm just guessing because he's most likely one of two people if he was stranded with them and it seems odd that he would appear on TV while Jeff Shauna and their daughter are watching we have no clue what happened to her child during that time because the writers didn't mention it for a reason same with javi who dissapeared

Yep. 👏 100 percent her. I have the feeling...

Maybe the crash was a set up by lottie's father (he paid for the trip), or for some reason they dont want to find them lol. And as for the cannibalism, I don't think theyll eat each other, but I do think that by killing people the "woods" will provide them food (when Laura lee died they got the bear, etc.)

That’s so disrespectful to eat Jackie’s body after a lot of the girls being so horrible and mean to her with her sleeping outside of the cabin after arguing knowing full well that there was wolves creeping about

@@kelsian_smith03 I mean sort of but like when they run out of food they won't have many options left. Survival>respect in these situations.

Do you know if Adams character is 24 on the show?

The flew from New Jersey towards Seattle. It’s impossible that they are on a islands I think she just misspoke

I think her flesh would be rotten by then

@@flip65515 It'll be on ice though, right?

@@zetazimmer4769 Yeah but they just ate a bear. Sure, they could keep her on ice, but eventually even the contents of your refrigerator expire

It's not the worst theory on here. Some of these comments are just really fuckin stupid. I think when the actors are reading them and entertaining their ideas, they're just being polite. Like the thing about Lottie falling into the pit. The woman who was hired by who knows who to kidnap Juliette Lewis at the end of the season says something on the phone insinuating that Lottie drained Travis' bank account. So she's obviously still alive.

I do want to put out there that i DO KNOW that young Lottie was played by an actress of partially Maori and Chinese descent alongside Caucasian roots. Those roots should be respected and reflected in the choice of actress to assume the "adult" Lottie in the modern time-line representation in season 2. That being said... (for fucks sake with all these overly sensitive comments on threads about this topic. The crusades were started by people who are this zealotic!!) But that being said....I REALLY HOPE they stick with 90s female Hollywood royalty to cast the character. Yellowjackets has many themes. But that one was for this fan a favorite

@@djaceofpentacles On the Netflix show "Alexa & Katie," Tiffani Thiessen and half-Filipino Paris Berelc played mom and daughter. Edit: it would be funny if Thiessen was on Yellowjackets because in Episode 1, Allie is referred to as "Kelly Kapowski."

After waytching DEVS recently, I agree! Perfect match, though she might be a tad too young and need some make-up to "age" her a little.

Lauren Ambrose.

@@NJGuy1973 This is actually a GREAT idea.

@@alexlozn5380 You should check the Yellowjackets subreddit. That's what the consensus is.

Great choice. I could also see Thora Birch, and it would continue the 90s actress trend haha.

Who says they participate in cannibalism?

What’s everyone’s obsession with this show being supernatural it’s better if it’s not

Maybe pit girl is Mari

Pit girl can’t be Lottie. Lottie is still alive in the present day. Pretty sure it’s Mari

Ohhh this is a good theory!

Same! I don't think they eat each other, but they will have to kill if they want to survive

then how did they get the bear? it did seem to be a gift fr the forest as it just laid down to be killed, but the group didn't kill anybody in order to get it.....they tried to kill Travis but didn't.... unless they killed Javi....

@@breannaneden8088 Laura Lee died.

@@breannaneden8088 but Laura lee died, so I guess that that was everything that the forest needed. It doesn't matter how they died, I think is like "as soul for a soul" type of thing

Maybe she ate her own baby lol

@@Enzombie maybe 🤔?

I read cooch 💀

@@sebastiancortes2393 🤣🤣🤣