Only thing i can think of is Oled screen and Uncompressed images. Also some people hate Meta to death so it might be a good option for those people XD Tho im curious if these limitations are about the adapter or the fact that games and steam vr doesnt support some of these (like haptic feedback, triggers and hdr)

I think those options will come..also if you give a pc modder a challenge..they will make it happen under any circumstance. Lol

The reason they don't have it because of Laziness + greed. I dont think there is USB connection directly to PC. Correct me if I am wrong

The reason is that all those functions are game side. They can't be added by drivers. And because no game uses these functions Sony warns that they don't work. If they didn't at best it be dishonest, at worst false advertising.

Quite weird indeed. At first I thought that it could be a bandwith issue with display port but remember the whole PSVR2 thing works via USB on the PS5 (I don't know if compression is at place or they use a special protocol for data transfer there). The missing eye-tracking is a lack of software implementation it seems - so not enough effort went into that. Shame. Quite happy with my Quest 3 at the moment. I really can't think of going back from pancake lenses to fresnel lenses. But missing those important features the PSVR2 is just a mediocre headset for PCVR.

Except this is NOT targeted for those kinds of people. This is targeted for people who are both interested in PS5 VR gaming AND PCVR gaming. Now with this adapter a person can so both, while with PCVR HMDs you can only play PCVR games. I own a PS5 and a gaming PC and now the PSVR2 is the clear choice for VR headset, since I can play both PS5VR games and PCVR games. It's very simple, it's not that complicated.

I think their argument is less about who it is targeted at and more about why remove specific pre-existing features when there is still plenty of use for them. The tech is already there why hamstring the device for potential customers.

not to mention my PSVR2 just lost $100 in value since they dropped the price. The lack of haptics, i get. But the eye tracking needs to be there.

Quest 3 doesn't have any of those features and cost $50 more.......

​@@word2RGyour headset lost a lot more then $100 value when you opened the box lol

Right! I fully expected them to recode all games to the features of the PSVR2.

lol why would a bunch of pc games go back and add in features for 1 headset.

@ThatZenkiS14 the 2 most important features of the headset are HDR and eye tracking for fobiated rendering. Both of these features can work on the hardware level, with no need of developers doing anything.

They always pull shit like this. I will never forgive them for the Vita. Never.

@@Drn10n really? foveated rendering just works? eye tracking just works ? WTF does at the hardware level even mean? the hardware works but there is no software for it?

yeah.. i jumped the gun on that one.. the psvr 2 is awesome.. but the controllers makes me worried.. the tracking is iffy with my unit and they dont make replacements..

Yes, i have now decided to get the pimax light. 2880x2880 QLED 120Hz and DIRECT displayport connection. For the same price.

The lack of feature simply because SteamVR having none of it.

@@batterynerd8779 Same price?

I'll be selling my PSVR2 and buy a Quest 3.

@@batterynerd8779 Congrats, you just decided on an oversized paperweight. At that price, I would just go with a Bigscreen Beyond. Hope your sad ass is happy with the extra weight you have to carry for someone willing to throw away $900 (£709) like that, but you do you

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Thats the point I think he was missing. Most owners of this headset are PS5 players, I dont think that will change. So now if those people, already own or buy into PC gaming, they do not need to buy an additional VR headset and with compatibility over Steam library thats kinda cool. PC VR headsets dont support the missing features neither so is it such a downer or surprise?

That’s awesome bro! I’ve been a PC gamer as well as PlayStation for a long time. I’ve also been an OG oculus rift user for many years. This is the perfect mix for me and exactly what I’ve been waiting for to pull the trigger on PSVR2. I am a bit disappointed at the missing features but I wholeheartedly believe they plan to add them in a later date.

Yea I have a ps5 and a pc with great specs and with this update I’m willing to buy the psvr2, I’ve been waiting for this.

The channel owner doesn't seem to think that deeply or has very short sighted logic. I'm also in the same boat and will finally play Half Life Alyx.

How do you want to add HDR to games that don't have HDR? Make a deal with M$ for autoHDR for PSVR2?

@@ForisTale and further: - the only major game which supports ET would be VR Chat... and in terms of DFR: we as VR enthusiasts run graphics cards to max out the displays anyway - adaptive triggers must be implemented in games - no PCVR game does

Not all PC games offer HDR and like the other features, the vast amount of titles were not all going to be updated/modified to benefit in supporting the PS5 specific features. The adapters role is to bring PC support to the headset. NOT bring the headsets features to PC.

How is an option to play PCVR games a bad thing? If they didn't make this adapter we wouldn't be able to play PCVR games at all, is that better? Why are so many braindead people whining about this news.

​@@tigerex777so what about the eye tracking? I have a bigger problem with that, that alone makes this literal garbage.

I am afraid that lot of those features need to be implement to the games. Just my feeling..

Not HDR though ​@@joelf634

@@joelf634hdr is hdr. It will be everywhere. People who want Eye tracking are most likely vrchat users and vrchat will most likely implement this knowing them. And adaptive stuff, yeah true for that one

Well the key thing is the dfr rendering with the eye tracking with openxr, it makes plenty games work with it(not sure how many if not all lol, its just something i slightly know of) ​@@joelf634

@@joelf634 Eye-tracked DFR in particular does already work with a bunch of big-name games on PC, modded or otherwise.

In fairness that's how they're advertising it

I know... How to kill the excitement

It is!! The game developers have to put the language into the game. Then Steam or Sony would have to release like apps and drivers for the hardware, through updates.

steamvr already handles fov rendering with steam link on quest so its weird

Having the option there is all people want though, they don't need to offer any of the work of implementing it. It would be there for the few games that can use it now native or modded and it would be there for future games that will utilize it when it's a more common feature.

That is correct, I'm fine with this. I just bought a motion simulator, now im going to buy a cat walk c2+. Add the b haptics and this is the pinnacle of gaming at present, at a semi affordable price.

​@@VDVrEquipment get an Owo skin instead of b haptics

The only big bummer to me is that we won't be able to use eye-tracking on PC for dynamic foveated rendering aka free performance boost. I can live with all the missing features and will enjoy using my PS VR2 on PC immensely, but it's hard to believe they couldn't make those features accessible somehow. If it is possible, I hope they add those features over time or modders somehow make them work. But I'm skeptical.

​@@BCBtheBeastlyBeast Those features would immediately make this the best pcvr headset option for most people. It's crazy to me that Sony isn't officially supporting them but I fully expect support for at least eye tracking to come eventually which is by far the most important one.

Agreed. With VR Chat and Resonite having support for eye tracking, this is honestly a kick in the nads for anyone wanting to enjoy that feature whenever not playing a VR game on the PS5.

I'm the same as you. I've had like 10 headsets now (Rift, Vive, Vive Pro, Quest 2, Pico 4, Reverb G2, Pimax, and more) and I cannot understand how all these clowns can tolerate LCD and compression. The amount of compression on USB headsets is actually disgusting, it makes everything unplayable. And the LCD displays make everything bleak and non-immersive. The Quest 2 is unusable. I used my Rift from 2017 until 2022, but in 2022 I got a Vive Pro 1 and modded it with GearVR lenses and a custom headstrap+headphone combo. The VP1 is the only headset that beats my Rift, simply because of the higher resolution and better lenses without any other drawbacks. I'm reaching a point where I'd like higher resolution, non-pentile displays, so I'm considering the Bigscreen Beyond. People often mention the glare and poor sweet spot of the Beyond, but my modded Vive Pro already suffers from both of those slightly (to be expected with a DIY 3D-printed lens mod), although it seems to be worse on the Beyond.

​@@willwastaken Yeah, I tried the Vive Pro 1 in an arcade and it looked great. Wish I could have afforded it at the time when they still sold it new. The first LCD hmd I bought was the Lenovo Explorer because it was cheap and I was curious about the higher resolution at the time. Boy was it awful. The colors were way less vibrant, you couldn't see details in dark areas anymore, the screen was dimmer, and it just felt more flat and less vr. The sweet spot was awful and don't get me started on the controllers and tracking. The next one I got was the Samsung Odysee+ because it had oled and same resolution as the vive pro 1. The visuals looked great but it still had those WMR hmd issues like tiny sweet spot and awful tracking/controllers, plus it was the most uncomfortable headset I've used. Then the Quest 1 came out and it actually had OLED and higher resolution than the Rift but because it didn't use a hdmi or displayport cable, the compression when playing pcvr stuff basically makes it look like an LCD screen. You'd think Meta would fix that but here we are years later with no uncompressed cable in sight for all their new Quests.

@@Vazz Yeah it's honestly hopeless at this point, I doubt we'll see any more innovation for a long time. You can still buy the VP1 for around $450 in some countries, and if you get a used Vive kit on eBay you'll have 2 base stations and controllers which is all you need. I hated modding my VP1, felt like I was gonna break it, but I'm so glad I did it. It has easily replaced my Rift, and is quite a lot better in every regard except comfort and weight.

Indeed. Didn't expected it AT ALL! Better late than ever I guess.

The only reason to buy this headset is if you have a PS5 and PC For the price you can get better PC headsets BUT the PSVR2 you get an AMAZING PS5 VR headset and an ok PC headset. It's very good, I don't regret my purchase, but that's because I have a PS5 and the games look and play great!

Just get a Quest 3

Probably, I connect DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort all the time with my PC monitors with simple cables/adapters and no signal converters. Can't know for sure until someone gets their hands on it though. It's all about the signal that travels over the conductor/pinout.

Dude, this is Sony. I fully expect all this was intentional to get people to buy a ps5. They have been handicapping their own products for decades before this headset and will continue to do so for as long as they can get away with it. I will never forgive them for the vita. Never.

you can use an adapter for minidisplay port or usb type c I guess, like we were doing with the Rift S

There is literally nothing else that you can buy for PCVR at 500 Usd/Euros that has the features even the nerfed version of PSVR2 have. 4k resolution + OLED + foveat rendering + 110 FOV + uncompressed quality + controlers and tracking included. This is still the best buy for PC VR in 2 months, which is actually depressing for PC vr enthusiasts.

PC VR is just a generic term without any real meaning. It's not a platform or headset unit.

Neither feature is very common, and unless I missed something new you'd only see both on headsets over twice the price.

Unless you care about AR stuff or need it to be wireless (quest 3 air link seems to still have the same downsides as the 2) the psvr2 is almost certainly the better option for you. None of the features it loses on PC are features the Q3 has anyways. And it's still OLED, still a direct dp connection, and the only headsets that seem to truly be better are way more expensive and require base stations and all that.

The point is even without those features it's still an excellent option

that's the messed up part, we get foveated rendering, but no eye tracking. wat. no HDR sucks too, it ruins the visual advantage of the OLED panels.

If thew game wasn't programed with that then it won't work anyways. Once pcvr games come natively with eye tracking then you would really need it. same goes for everything else. if the game doesn't get patched it won't take advantage.

No, the PSVR2 has fresnel lenses that are far inferior to current pancake lenses. Meaning: no edge to edge clarity on these PSVR2 lenses. There is only a small sweetspot in the center of the lenses, outside of that spot it gets blurry. This does not happen with pancake lenses on the Quest 3.

@@Tepnox So then PSVR is going to be a maybe fun thing on the side. So Pimax Super at the end of the year it is. Unless Meta quest 4 comes out. Its not.