But what's going to stop people from stealing your adapter? Is there a locking mechanism?

@@Abolish101 You can use a small luggage lock on the J-1772 side. It'll prevent the button from being pressed and removed.

Do they have an adapter which lets vehicles which have supercharger access (such as Ford or Rivian) use the same adapter on a supercharger and a destination charger?

Electric cars are all about money.

Tesla had the charging network figured out. Other vehicle manufacturers laughed and didn't want to play along with tesla. Why they never reached out to tesla and ask to join their network is their own failure.

@@cs2884 That's why in Europe we use CCS, and Tesla fitted CCS here.. And even now, I can charge my non-Tesla ev at Tesla SuC's.

How is this any different to a gas pump with 3 different nozzles? One for Diesel, one for 100% gas, one for E10. In this case, you can accidentally put diesel in a gas engine, or gasoline in a diesel engine. Very expensive mistake to make.

@@cs2884 Um...no. It's the other way around. Tesla created the proprietary plug to prevent others from using their network.

Just like the OB connectors.

They already did this in Europe you can't buy a Tesla in Europe without getting what I believe to be the J plug he talked about. And I believe they just opened supercharging to anybody with an electric car.

Europe is doing it and I think Asia did it as well. Looks like we'll be the last to adopt

The thing is the Tesla plug can do both DC fast charging as well as AC level 2. It’s technically superior but it won’t be adopted external to Tesla.

@@Johno144 the CCS port in Europe can do both, too. AC up to 50kw at the moment, DC up to 500 (but limited to 350 or so until bigger chargers go online)

That's because Telsa gives out the Destination chargers to the businesses for free including installation if the business pays for the electricity. A lot of times Tesla will put in 2-3 of their chargers and one J1772 charger all in the same spot. It's a win win for Tesla and the businesses.

I disagree. If we had a 100% standard charging type, it would be J1772 for Level 2 and CCS for Level 3, both of which are far inferior to NACS. Most companies are gravitating toward NACS now, so it is becoming the unofficial standard.

Teslatap gang

either one.

Yep. Also worth noting that the Lectron unit is only rated to 40A whereas there are vehicles and Telsa Destination Chargers capable of 48A. Such a combination would result in the Lectron adapter becoming a fuse...........

I didn't like that either which is why I bought a Tesla Tap. Usually you wouldn't have to worry about that with a Lectron charger as a lock would deter most people away but a TeslaTap is smaller, higher amp rated, has locks on both sides of the adapter and is made in the USA. Just returned my Lectron and bought an 80Amp Tesla Tap for future proofing. It's like $50 more than a Lectron counterpart but it's well worth it to not get unplugged by Tesla snobs

@@vocel343 Thanks, will look into it. Does it charge as reliable as the Lectron?

@@dearbulls Yes it does. In fact I would say it's better because they are actually (claiming to be) the original manufacturers of Tesla to J1772 adapters and everyone else just copied them. And if you look at their earlier models, it does look like the exact same model as the one in this video. You could never fit the one in the video in the glove box though. It would always have to go in the trunk or something. The Tesla Taps are like 5 inches and only stick out 3 inches plugged in. It's like what Tesla gives their customers the J1772 to Tesla adapter. Very small and compact. I forgot to mention it's the "mini" version you want. Don't get the big clunky one like in the video. Has a 1 year warranty as well.

Wouldn't it make moor sense just to by a Tesla....which CAN access Superchargers?

It's only fair, our cars come with j1772 adapters so we can use any level 2, I do think tesla should have offered a Tesla branded product to help fund addional destination chargers but they are now offering tesla chargers with j1772 so I guess they are going that route now. As for the superchargers I welcome the increased capital to expand, I just feel like Bernie sanders when I say I hope non tesla's "pay their share" to help fund the infrastructure (I consider the cost of entry baked into the price of Teslas)

Perfect, win/win, get a fill up, piss off a snowflake. No downside.

@@snupermoto723 it's even better than that, you get a fill-up and you get to piss off two kinds of snowflakes: coal-rolling douche-bros because you're in an electric, and pearl clutching Teslaratis because your using "THEIR" electricity. It's win-win-win 😂

Why? They use J1772 all the time.

@@aaronw8606 All Tesla's come with several adapters. Tesla gives those destination chargers to businesses to attract business and promote EV's, but they sometimes include a J1772 charger with the Tesla ones because other car manufacturers don't include adapters

I don't really understand why Tesla went with their own plug in the US. In Europe Teslas have a Type 2 connector which all other EV's use too so no adapters needed :)

@@sekopiski our North American Gov'ts are useless, across the pond Apple is being corralled into USB-C for e-waste purposes and ease of use. I bet Tesla got told to play fair or to take their ball and go home. I can see Tesla making less cars and focusing on charging stations, alot of money out there for subscriptions and alot less overhead, obviously I do not see them stopping but akin to Apple the subscription model will be their golden egg so to speak seeing as how they can get money from their own customers as well as Nissans🤑

@@sekopiski because there was no std at the beginning. EU mandates forced them, doesnt exist in US.

It’s still that way. Nobody but the 2% wants an electric car. And you can sell ice to 2% of Eskimos.

and other automakers are welcome to pay to license it. everyone just refuses.

In reality that hinders progress. Look at the Euro cell phone laws...micro USB mandate for damn near a decade. Europe only just now decided that USB C is the way to go, after the rest of the world has been using Type C for years.

Will you get the superchargering capabilities on a non Tesla? Or do you just get to use the superchargers as regular chargers?

Just plug in straight. No app needed.

this adapter does not support SC speeds. this is only for destination chargers (40A).

*unless you have a tesla, currently.

This only applies to traveling, 99% of charging is done at home. Most places that’s I’ve stayed in California have non-Tesla level 2 chargers. Tesla cars come with an adapter to use a standard (j1772) level 2 chargers.

And I've used an electric leaf blower at work. Still noisy. Any time you have a fan moving air...

@@nlpnt Oh yeah, they sound like hand dryers but louder.

A Tesla plug won't release unless the vehicle is unlocked. I am not sure if it would release the adapter if you unplug the cable from the adapter while charging (now I have to go and try that out). I am not sure if non Tesla lock the charging cable when the vehicle is locked I would think they do, it's common sense. But for Tesla and non Tesla, the charging cable can be disconnected from the adapter at anytime. I hope that answers your question.

The Nissan Leaf has an option to lock the plug in place.

Nissan Leaf Chademo ports lock when they are fast charging and will only unlock when the power transfer is either completed or cancelled.

Why FSD was invented! 😀

@@bartwaggoner2000 good point

@@robm6789 It never takes me more than 20 minutes to charge my Tesla to 75% . The range is 330 miles. So I have 222 miles worth of charge. Basically, the stops are planned by the Tesla itself using the onboard GPS Navigator. Drive time between charges on a road trip is between 2 and 3 hours. The superchargers are placed near the interstates and restaurants and other businesses. Basically you just press the right hand button on the steering wheel, say "Navigate to "wherever, some 500 miles or more, or less away" and drive. If you have Full Self Driving, you don't even really drive...just hold onto the steering wheel and pay attention to the traffic just in case something unsafe appears on your trip. I just made a 510 mile trip. 4 stops averaging about 20 minutes for "fuel". Much more pleasant than my previous vacation using my Volvo XC60 turbo- and super- charged gasoline engine. I do really love the Volvo. Really nice car. But it's nice to not have to worry about missing an exit or even keping the car in the lane, or fighting the traffic. Just let the Tesla worry about all that. It always knows the right exit and navigates the car into the exit and everywhere else, slows and speeds up and changes lanes depending on the traffic. Really non-stressful car trips. I'm sure other EVs are similar. But Tesla built up the charging network before filling the highways with cars...and they continue to stay ahead of production with the build out and build up. I think I bought the right EV. Just do your homework before you buy. Don't go by what "they" say. So, having the long range and the navigator to plan your route in just a few seconds, and the self driving coordinated with the navigator. and the super-fast superchargers, ...it was done right, and these are the main reasons I went Tesla. I'm just a Cajun from Louisiana; son of a tenant farmer, average kind of guy.

Man those chargers are incredibly slow! The free ones drive you insane... I got this adapter a year or so ago and maybe used it 3 times.

Destination chargers are intended to fill your car overnight while you sleep at a hotel, or to give you a little range bump while you are in a restaurant or bar for an hour or two. Similarly free Jplug chargers like Volta chargers at malls are only intended to give you a range bump while you shop. They were more important when I had a compliance car with 85 miles of total range, but now that I have a Tesla with 240 miles of range, I don't even park in those spots. I charge at home while I sleep if I am in my local area. The only time I use any of the public chargers is when I am on vacation

Those Tesla Superchargers available to other makes is limited to only 10 chargers in the Netherlands. And nothing is certain about when that experiment will expand to the rest of Europe and the U.S. It could be a long wait (why would Tesla want to inhibit sales of its own cars? Altruism?).

@@kenhoward3512 All new Tesla in Europe are required to have CCS charging port and Superchargers must be equipped with CCS. That s EU requirement. You see the trend ? Tesla are allowed to charge from other to CCS chargers for some time, Elon not allowing other to charge from the Superchargers will make him looks bad.

You don't. These are free chargers set up at certain businesses. Called "destination chargers".

There are certain businesses that offer free EV charging as a curtesy...no strings attached. Those are the chargers that work with these adapters.

He has tesla insider info from every ev market in planet Earth, right?

@@konstantinkennedy2244 I mean it was on basically every EV news website. As a journalist he could/should have catched it.

@@jojoyes i can assure you not only americans don't know but also don't care how tesla is charged in Holland. In China all evs use same plug, it makes no difference. All i know Americans need usa globe separate from the rest of the world

Nope.

Well, yes. It is Level 2 just like your home.

There’s a lot of bla,bla,bla in the UK and other European countries, not just concerning EVs either!

It has a hole which allows you to lock the thumb release with a small padlock.

If the EV has an electronic charging lock, as most do, then the adapter should be locked into the vehicle.

Me too, but this is for the 99% of people just getting an EV now or finding this video in the future. They aren't early adopters and this is all confusing magic to them. They also won't understand why one car charges so much faster than theirs so some kind of numbering system or color coding would be helpful for the humans that don't care about cars at all and they just want to get fuel for it.

Tesla would have to agree to allow it. It's about more than just an adapter.

For level 2, your vehicle determines the current draw.

The charger connector can be locked to the port so that it cannot be removed unless you unlock the car.

@@mowcowbell no, you need to use a separate padlock.

Most EVs have electronic locks, but someone could still unplug from the adapter, leaving it hanging off the car.

@@laloajuria4678 I own a Nissan Leaf, which has a lock button inside the car. That would lock the adapter to the car, but, someone still could unplug the Tesla end from that side of the adapter.

They already have it. Most EVs have electronic locks, locking the cable (adapter) to the car. The few that don't can usually get by with a small pad lock if so desired.

The cord is locked in and someone can’t just unplug it with their bare hands. Once you unlock your car, then you can remove the cord.

Mach E can lock the charge connector to the car and you need the key fob to release it

@@paulira7407 thanks for your reply. If I can impose on you some more, i only suspect the cable wouldn’t have a machanical lock in it, if you unplugged the Tesla cable and the car no longer received power, will the car auto release the part plugged into the car?

It doesn't work at the superchargers.

@@MrColdNoodles oh yeah sorry I missed that

they lock into the Charging port when charging and can only be unlocked by owner

you need to use a separate padlock.

@@laloajuria4678 no you dont

@@wiks101 if someone wants your charge plug, it looks like you do. Only one end of the adapter locks into place and that's the car to the adapter end. The Tesla plug to the adapter doesn't appear to lock.

@@MrColdNoodles I own a Tesla you don't and you don't know what the hell you're talking about

Not if you lock it in. Same protection that stops people from pulling it out as a prank or vandalism while the driver is away.

yes

The adapter may be locked onto the vehicle. Most, not all, EVs have electronic locks. But the cable can still be removed from the adapter if someone wants to be a dick.

They already started when plans to open up the Superchargers were first announced. It's inevitable though, Supercharging went from being a free extra to being paid but exclusive and making it all-makes will help make it an independent profit center and easier to sell or spin off eventually.

i dont care. EVs need chargers.

Ha! That's funny that you think America is a first-world country.

@@davidmccarthy6061 ?

That’s why the future is bleak

The charger being demonstrated is a Destination charger. You wouldn't use these on a road trip, you would use them while at work, or at home overnight. An EV driver will never need to make that trip to the gas station like the Civic driver.

This is a Level 2 charger. It's meant for overnight charging (or a few miles like at this brewery), like charging at home.

That's an irrational fear using level 2 charging. Where most level 2 charging will occur at night, while asleep or winding down for the evening.

The plugs can be locked into place when attached to the port.

Most EVs have electronic locks, locking the cable (adapter) into the vehicle. For the few that don't, a small lock can usually be added to keep it locked in place.