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How Free Parking Destroys Urban Wealth
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2 жыл бұрынDecades of minimum parking requirements has resulted in cities across this country having far more parking than they will ever fully utilize. This results in there being fewer spaces designed for people and it worsens the infrastructure overall.
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The High Cost of Free Parking:
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Houston's Minimum Parking Requirements:
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Black Friday Shopping Trends:
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Local Business Perception vs. Mobility Behavior of Shoppers: A Survey from Berlin:
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The Strongest Case Yet That Excessive Parking Causes More Driving:
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Strong Towns 101: Walmart or Smallmart
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Parking Has Eaten American Cities
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Quantified Parking Comprehensive Parking Inventories for Five U.S. Cities (download archived by the wayback machine):
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Reno Experience District info:
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@neckenwiler 2 жыл бұрын
It’s weird how “let developers choose how much parking to build with their projects” and “charge people for the value of the parking spaces they use” are radical ideas
@nunyabidness3075 Жыл бұрын
This is because no one in government actually has to/gets to do their damn job. If you let people run businesses and rent homes without parking, the streets become packed with cars and they over flow into the neighborhoods where the drivers then act just like the pedestrians and transport users and become irritants. Next thing the neighborhood either becomes gated or run down. So ridiculous rules are made requiring 1.5 busiest day of the year parking be provided.
@NoobixCube Жыл бұрын
That’s because everyone loves free market capitalism until they want something. Suddenly a little bit of socialism is okay when it benefits them. Social healthcare? No way, but please pay for theme to park their cars right by the doors of every shop!
@jfbeam Жыл бұрын
It's not radical, it's suicidal. In places where it's been left to developers, they don't build _any_ parking -- they build rentable space on every square foot. (ever been to downtown atlanta?) You might be tempted to think such structures would never attract tenants, but you'd be wrong.
@nunyabidness3075 Жыл бұрын
@@jfbeam Okay, so what’s the problem in Downtown Atlanta?
@jfbeam Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabidness3075 No parking. Buildings built right up to the limits of the street. (if there were no sidewalks, they'd literally be to the edge of the street.) You can pay to park in a parking deck, but your office/apartment/whatever didn't "waste" space building any parking. And it's not just Atlanta. (Charleston is even worse)
@DjangoBit 2 жыл бұрын
This truth hiding in plain sight infuriates me more and more every day. Too many people, as you said, cannot fathom a life without cars, and as such, block progress that would make cities better. I hope the tide can turn for the better because the way we keep building is plain disgraceful.
@rlclark50 Жыл бұрын
You and me both. As much as I want to prevail against pessimism, I don't see it changing in North America and the best option seems to remain moving to another country that hasn't irreversibly adopted this mindset.
@موسى_7 Жыл бұрын
Aye, same for Middle East people. Absolutely carbrained.
@AllenGraetz Жыл бұрын
I know what it's like to live without a car. I love my car.
@traviskitteh Жыл бұрын
@@AllenGraetz I also know what it's like to live without my car. Honestly, I don't miss the expense.
@kaydenl6836 Жыл бұрын
@@AllenGraetz I highly doubt you know what it’s like to live in a good place without a car
@Optopolis 2 жыл бұрын
It clicked in my head how detrimental parking was when I had to design my own coffee shop for a school project. If it wasn't obvious before that point how useless most of the parking could be, it was dead obvious in that moment. A few years later (sometime last year) I start coming across channels that talk about all these issues, and it simultaneously correlates with what I do now. Funny how things work out.
@shioyoutube9041 Жыл бұрын
I remember doing something similar when I was learning about minimum parking requirements in America, where I live in town the majority of buildings have no parking, that’s not the job of the restaurant/cafe/shop, instead you just park in one of the multi-storey car parks of the small car park in the centre, then you just walk to where you want to go. It still seems weird to me that the need for parking is placed on the building, rather than the town designers, and that each building would need its own set of parking spaces rather than one central place, because then it means you end up with a ton of excess space…
@tinkthestrange Жыл бұрын
@@shioyoutube9041I wish every city did this, it makes life so much easier for people who are healthy and able bodied. Plus if you need to be let out right in front of the business usually someone can drop you off at the door while parking elsewhere.
@justanotheryoutubechannel Жыл бұрын
That must’ve been such a strange experience, I guess it makes sense to teach children about the real building requirements, but I remember doing stuff like this as a kid in England and we didn’t even consider parking. But hey, at least it introduced you to the concept.
@4kworldtour773 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Reno and am loving these videos! I always watch Not Just Bikes, so it's great to see a local KZfaqr making similar content. One "bike path" that always stands out to me as being horribly designed is the Victorian bike path, which is technically its own protected bike path but has around 30 streets that intersect through it, creating constant danger and yielding to cars. I ride it nearly every day and never feel comfortable riding properly because of how many streets cut into the path. Would love to see a video on that!
@zbjz 2 жыл бұрын
It still astounds me the amount of businesses here in Melbourne Australia where you can park your 1500kg heavy machinery for free DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF the store, and the bike racks are 100s of metres away as an afterthought
@zbjz 2 жыл бұрын
So I usually just lock up to a pole or something
@eclogite 2 жыл бұрын
Where I live in Victoria (Canada), the afterthought bike racks are at least next to the store itself, even if they're jammed right against a wall to gratuitously cut their capacity in half
@johnchester7836 2 жыл бұрын
If you like exercise so much why are you complaining
@zbjz 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnchester7836 You raise a good point, the extra walk is some extra exercise. I like parking my bike close so that I can keep an eye on it more and it's in view of the shops etc. to deter theft. Also there are many reasons to ride places besides exercise (cheaper, less stressful, good for environment, unable/unwilling to drive, public transport sucks etc.) so not all bikers are keen on that extra walk.
@eclogite 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnchester7836 if I want to walk to the store, I don't take my bike lmao
@SkylarsTerribleMemes 2 жыл бұрын
instead of minimum parking requirements there should be minimum bike rack requirements
@good1day726 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@hendman4083 2 жыл бұрын
Without safe cycle infrastructure, a bike rack alone will not convince more people to use a bicycle.
@paularsenal8014 2 жыл бұрын
Some dutch cities have those it works pretty well
@inesalag 2 жыл бұрын
And minimum trees planted :)
@ex0stasis72 2 жыл бұрын
@@paularsenal8014 interesting! It's probably a good example to follow if they do it in the Netherlands.
@jw668 2 жыл бұрын
There is almost no free parking in New York City. In Manhattan street parking is $4 for first hour and $6 for second hour.
@jeremyhillaryboob4248 2 жыл бұрын
it should be more, with how valuable land is downtown
@illiiilli24601 Жыл бұрын
That's surprisingly little. It's roughly the same here in Perth Australia, and we only have a metro pop of 2 mill. Also we're not literally Manhattan, the centre of the western world
@pimpinaintdeadho Жыл бұрын
That's cheap AF
@the.abhiram.r Жыл бұрын
and the convoluted street grid and confusing parking rules heavily encourage people to take the subway. if only the subway had good service in the other boroughs, then all of ny could be dense
@Joesolo13 Жыл бұрын
@@the.abhiram.r The IBEX will help, but yea a lot of work needs to be done.
@JustaGuy_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Other funny thing, no one wants to park in the back half a mile from the store. Even when stores used to be packed, people would drive around looking for a closer spot.
@mackereltabbie Жыл бұрын
Aren't Americans supposed to be all about freeeeeedom? Minimum parking requirements are anti freedom, let people choose
@docvideo93 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in college I didn't have a car for most of my years on campus. As my school began being larger and larger as enrollment increased, the university faced the need to house the new students. It end up convert a dorm parking area into a dorm itself. It angered many of my friends who had a car as they now had to search for a parking spot for the cars. Meanwhile, I just shrugged the parking problems and kept walking around town and campus. The walk-ability of college towns and campus are underrated.
@rishabhanand4973 Жыл бұрын
i think it is basically a consensus among the new urbanist community is that part of the reason why college is the best years of some people's lives is because it is the only time in their life where they can actually go places by walking and other forms of transportation besides a car. Hell, I lived in a dorm for 2 years and off campus for 2 years, and I can safely say I hung out with friends way more often when we were all living in dorms and the only person in our friend group living off campus lived like right off campus boundaries so it was still walkable from our dorms to his place.
@kevinglazier8950 Жыл бұрын
@@rishabhanand4973 I agree. I went to a large state school for a year, very walkable. Then I transfered to much smaller school in another state where I had to commute ~5 mins to campus from the dorms. I know which one I prefer
@jfbeam Жыл бұрын
[NCSU in the 90's] I had a car mostly to get the 200mi back and forth from home. Walking was always an option, and buses were everywhere. On main campus, a bus comes by every 5 min. To the vet school or centennial campus was every 15min (mostly from the gym, but you could catch them at other points.) (Today, there's an app that tells you exactly where every bus is.) I've even walked all the way downtown to Char-grill and Snoopy's. I was a teen back then. I'm close to being a senior these days... I ain't doin' that. Where I live now, the sidewalk is on the other side of a 5 lane road. Walking across it is doable, but seriously dangerous.
@the.abhiram.r Жыл бұрын
my college is doing a similar thing, due to city regulations regarding gentrification in the area, it's harder for developers to demolish buildings, so my school is just building on old parking lots now
@maythesciencebewithyou Жыл бұрын
Most people don't give a shit whether others find a place to live. They care more about their own convenience. "Screw you I got mine, and I won't let you have a piece of what I have", it the motto many people live by.
@alfredsaalo1441 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you learn when growing up is that nothing is free
@tonyclemens4213 2 жыл бұрын
In my city the council wanted to expand a neighbourhood park but residents complained cause it would take away parking spaces. Yes, room for cars was more important than kids playing.
@cyclingtexas1670 Жыл бұрын
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ it amazes me the way people think
@jfbeam Жыл бұрын
If you have a car to park, you want a place to park it.
@Joesolo13 Жыл бұрын
@@jfbeam Thinking free car storage is more important than children being able to play is very selfish.
@yimyum2303 Жыл бұрын
When people have no alternative but to drive their car.. they're going to need parking space somewhere. I'm assuming this is America where public transportation rather thats bikes buses or trains are horrible. How else are many people going to get to the park or anywhere when soo many have to depend on cars? I'm sure some could get there without a car but also many just could not. I think we need to prioritize more walkable friendly public transportation friendly disabled friendly environments first so people won't even have to worry about parking their cars as much because they have easy to access alternatives. You get what I'm saying? Edit: Ngl I didn't watch the video first lol
@micosstar 9 ай бұрын
until we run out of farmland? then we build parking on the ocean?@@jfbeam
@holz_name Жыл бұрын
USA is weird. Here in Germany we don't have free parking. Every parking space is paid by the car drivers. Only exception is you can park your car on the side of the road if you don't block the road.
@E11or 8 ай бұрын
Its just obvious that if you want to park you should pay for that.😂 but in the us were they cry about any government spending they dont care at all as long as its parking
@artirony410 2 жыл бұрын
its so weird going to the Park Lane movie theater now because what used to be a big parking lot is now a park
@shioyoutube9041 Жыл бұрын
Well at the least name makes sense!
@romeonijsse2359 Жыл бұрын
In the US I saw many parking lots abandoned and blocked off with concrete bricks leaving then completely useless 😭
@Raxmei Жыл бұрын
Giving out all the money collected from taxes and fines to whoever lands on free parking is a terrible policy and nobody should do it.
@Svepo38 2 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is one doesn't need to demolish the old Malls (all of it), but use it as a town center. The parking lot could be transformed into housing with extra shops, offices, health care, hotels, nursing homes etc. and underground parking. From there spreading out to surrounding parts of town growing naturally.
@aaronb1195 2 жыл бұрын
A developer tried to do that in my town. The NIMBYs went apeshit about increased traffic in the neighborhood, lobbied against the development, and eventually the whole project had to be cut back to just another bland apartment complex surrounded by parking. The assholes ruin everything.
@rishabhanand4973 Жыл бұрын
@Va Sr well it would, except they probably are completely in denial about why that's an issue. So it's not like they learned their lesson. All they did was make everyone's life worse.
@jimzecca3961 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about making significant changes to the parking there (though some garages with charging stations, etc.) but I do believe the empty big anchor stores should be converted to apartments, the interior mall stores should either stay or get replaced with businesses like medical offices, specialty/convenience grocers, shipping stores and similar services, the food courts should stay and there should be dedicated transit lines that tie to keep town service locations and other nearby town centers.
@samus4799 Ай бұрын
The problem is that malls are built like shit and require comparatively exorbitant amounts of money to maintain.
@alex2143 2 жыл бұрын
These minimum parking requirements are extreme laziness on the part of the government. Rather than facilitating parking at somewhat central locations, so that one parking garage can serve multiple establishments (and maybe combining that with public transit such that you could visit those establishments by public transit more easily, and it could also serve as a park-and-ride), the government just signs a law and makes it the problem of the businesses.
@shioyoutube9041 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too. It’s so in the town centre where I live almost no businesses have their own parking, instead you just have a multi-storey car park in the centre and one at the mall, and then you just get out and walk through the rest of town, having so much wasted parking by making each business have X amount is awful.
@alex2143 Жыл бұрын
@@shioyoutube9041 yeah same here. Also it's very easy to reach by bike, so it's often faster to go by bike than to take the car.
@jfbeam Жыл бұрын
Learn some history. Those codes weren't "signed" yesterday. Parking requirements have been around for decades. Yes, they should be reevaluated in light of the decline of retail shopping, but that's not going to change already built structures. Just like many of the 80's era malls are still standing, but mostly if not totally empty, and surrounded by acre after acre of aging pavement.
@jimzecca3961 Жыл бұрын
The issue is central parking garages are no where near as convenient for the customer as being able to drive up near the door of the business they want to go to, park in a surface lot, jump in for five minutes and leave. It's also important to consider that if you have a typical larger shopping cart it's difficult to take that down the street to a parking garage, take it to your car, unload and then return the cart back to the store. People don't want to have to walk 500-1000 feet just to do some shopping. And if the garage isn't free on top of that, is crowded because it serves dozens of businesses instead of just a few, etc. that just sounds like a recipe to go shop elsewhere.
@alex2143 Жыл бұрын
@@jimzecca3961 and yet it works well and most Dutch cities have car free city centers. So how could that be? Car free city centers are better in every regard. If you have a hardware store where people would need to take big loads of materials out to their car, that just means you shouldn't put that in the city center.
@VCiPz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro!!! These open parking lots are the same way on the east coast! There is so much excess parking yet so many stores at outlet locations have exausted as much parking as possible even if their products are purchased more online nowadays over buying items in person. I can imagine two decades from now, the majority of malls will be taken down and replaced with either more living locations, or.... more parking 🤣😭 Keep up the awesome content. 💯%
@kevinbarnes218 2 жыл бұрын
Been to Reno once I spent my whole time in one building and never walked outside. I think I stayed in a downtown hotel. Good to see its improving slightly.
@zephaniahgreenwell8151 2 жыл бұрын
The mall parking lot will never be full. In the town I am from, there is an annual car sale on the mall property and, even with the cars for sale and the extra people there to buy and sell cars, parking is always available.
@adamnieuwenhout7699 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! The price per household to pay for infrastructure was new to me but very interesting. I'm glad you filmed this in the spring. If you filmed parking lots in the summer you would have turned into charcoal.
@YetAnotherUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
I do eventually plan on talking about heat islands, though.
@dianethulin1700 Жыл бұрын
I live in San Francisco where it is common to walk and use public transit. What I’m intrigued by is the new IKEA Store coming into Market Street next year. Through traffic was eliminated on Market a few years back. I guess people will purchase their furniture and have it delivered to their homes? I like the other little things from IKEA and their Swedish meatballs. I think they should be fine with no parking
@lizcademy4809 Жыл бұрын
I have used Ikea's delivery service (different US city), and it works out well for me. I'll usually get a couple of big things, and tack on some small things to the same order. The charge seems expensive, but as a substitute for owning and maintaining a car ... I can pay delivery charges a couple times a year and come out ahead.
@naphackDT Жыл бұрын
One of the solutions would be to have a big store that serves as only a showroom (and to sell some small items) and have a warehouse somewhere else where people can drive and get their stuff. It's pretty common for big furniture vendors here in Germany to have their showrooms and warehouses in different places. Basically, you pay for your order, get a receipt, drive to the warehouse and by the time you arrive at the warehouse, the worker there will already have prepared your order for pickup. You show the receipt to the worker, he pulls out his own paperwork for the order, both parties sign the respective receipts and you go on your merry way. In the situation you described that would also make sense because having the store only serve as a showroom significantly reduces the number of trucks that need to service the building. Also, that is prime real estate so every square meter (or square freedom unit, if you insist) is expensive and it makes economic sense to haul the big volume in a less expensive space.
@Alexrocksdude_ 2 жыл бұрын
How are you not getting hundreds of thousands of view, this was a great video! Parking minimums for bars is so laughable. I work as a waiter and the amount of people who are barely able to walk out of the restaurant and then proceed to drive is terrifying. Don't be out on the streets or sidewalks when bars close locally...
@botmes4044 2 жыл бұрын
What sets your channel apart from other urbanists is the depth and breadth of your research. It's one thing to spout hyperbole, it's another to bring receipts.
@botmes4044 Жыл бұрын
@Robin4givin nope. Just thought of it on the spot. I'm flattered, though. I once read one of my poems at an open mic. When I finished the audience was silent. Somebody from the darkness asked me, "who wrote that poem? Was it (short list of famous poets)?" To which I responded with a smile, "I did!" I was very flattered then as well.
@5688gamble 2 жыл бұрын
Parking is an incredible waste of space. In my town they want to get more people to use the trains, so what did they do? Improve public transport? Build cycling infrastructure to make getting there easier? No they are building a massive car park next to it, and a new road into it (where a footpath and cycle lane would have sufficed)- the construction makes accessing the station difficult and the 2 busiest bus stops in the town are now inaccessible for the duration, so people can apparently lazily drive to the station, more likely it will just be another car park people use to go shop in the town center as if the 5 massive public car parksand all the ones surrounding the supermarkets within walking distance of the station and shopping center aren't enough! I am sure the road and car park will be a beautiful addition.
@maxsievers8251 Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as free parking.
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It should be those who insist on the status quo who should be forced to bear the cost. Not those who want change for the good.
@b4804514 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Super Malls are dying and for good reason. They are expensive to maintain for everyone involved and are full or junk for the most part. Retail has changed dramatically and the pandemic give people thought of what is easier. When I can order exactly what i want and have it delivered in a day. Why would i waste time looking over thousands of items hoping to find my item? Buying is not what it was in the 1960-2000. The good news is these lots are going to destroy themselves so a decision will have to be made as to what to replace them with
@randgrithr7387 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but all those Amazon packages you order are shipped by the craziest, least courteous truck drivers in the industry. They cause a ton of accidents and phantom traffic jams on major arterials.
@edselgreaves6503 Жыл бұрын
Replace them with trees, hopefully. Cities desperately need more nature creeping in.
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
@@randgrithr7387 You mean Amazon is the most evil fascist dictatorship that underpays the actual useful workers such as truck drivers who SHOULD be paid the same as the CEO and therefore THAT'S why you shouldn't use Amazon.
@Dre2Dee2 Жыл бұрын
@@randgrithr7387 Yes, but those drivers are expendable. Let them crash and kill each other while I sit in the safety of my own home, working remotely Darwinism is a beautiful thing
@djsiii4737 Жыл бұрын
As a Municipal city planner it is amazing how much I have to fight everyday with other city staff including other Planners just to permit even a SMALL development to have SLIGHTLY less parking than the bylaw requires. End of the world. We have to somehow successfully show ppl that simply because a property may be short 1 parking space during peak time that the world won't fall apart.
@jlpack62 2 жыл бұрын
These sorts of things are happening all over the country, and they are a step in the right direction because they are creating taxable development within the footprint of existing infrastructure. While I totally get it that abundant free parking is still an issue, I think that we need to recognize that it's at least a step in the right direction. That said, I completely agree with you about eliminating parking minimums, as long as private developers aren't going to just push the cars coming to their buildings onto the public streets for free parking.
@pimpinaintdeadho Жыл бұрын
Where else would they park and who tf will pay for it?
@jlpack62 Жыл бұрын
@@pimpinaintdeadho We need to create more environments where we have less dependency on cars, not more. Prioritizing places for everyone's cars is not solving problems, it's creating them.
@pimpinaintdeadho Жыл бұрын
@@jlpack62 Bro, that's idealism. Our country wasn't formed with the same infrastructure problems that Europeans faced when they implemented mass transit. Most people commute to the city everyday for their jobs. You wouldn't just have to create this solution for most in the city. Rather, you'd have to solve these problems with a 60 mile radius in mind of all these cities. It's not gonna happen (without the next technological transportation solution i.e. flying hydrogen powered cars or whatever).
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
@@pimpinaintdeadho Who the F will pay for our current physically unsustainable system, when all the oil runs out and global warming gets so bad it will be too hot to go outside? Go tell me who will pay for THAT? You pay for as much public transportation as you can. THAT'S how you pay for it. Stop wasting money on cops and judges who take away protestors' freedom of speech.
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
@@pimpinaintdeadho Idealism is pretending anthropogenic global warming (AGW) and history don't exist. ANYTHING can be made into law or outlawed. That's a CHOICE people make. But it is impossible to get around PHYSICAL LOGISTICAL constraints. i.e. the consequences of either unfair laws or fair laws.
@FGH9G 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. You absolutely hit the nail on the head at the end there, about the commodification of housing and treating walkability like a luxury. I absolutely resent the trendification of something as theoretically mundane as a roof over someone's head. Like come on people, does EVERYTHING have to be trendy and cool? Why can't something ever be just *ordinary?* Why does the ability to walk and bike anywhere treated as a symptom of gentrification and only something the rich does or should have?
@rishabhanand4973 Жыл бұрын
i'm not an expert but i think part of it is that, in the US at least, walkable cities are so rare that the few that exist are super in demand and thus expensive despite them ironically being cheaper to build and maintain than a sprawling suburb.
@nickwannn Жыл бұрын
the problem is raising the price of street parking to affect demand of driving doesn't work when driving demand in NA is essentially inelastic
@PRH123 Жыл бұрын
You could fit a whole town in the space of one of those malls + parking. Then you would have a town where you don't need a car. Or parking.
@LaMach420 6 ай бұрын
The biggest misfortune is suburbs being built the way they are. We can "easily" get rid of parking lots with infill but those winding mazes of SFH are going to be there for a looong time.
@edselgreaves6503 Жыл бұрын
In my country, parking is done underground. The government absolutely HATES wasting landspace on parking lots. You either build up or down, not spread all across useful landmass
@Dre2Dee2 Жыл бұрын
But your country is one that's cramped for space. The US has millions of empty square miles. In order to not lose that empty to land to foreign nations, there is this constant pressure to expand OUT, to maintain our borders. That's a big part of what drives this. Even with massive land wastage, the US is 85% empty.
@martincday007 Ай бұрын
There seems to be something missing from the equation, if the centre is more eating, drinking and activity based, then more people will probably arrive using a transport method other than private vehicle. However, if the activity is primarily retail and people are going to be encouraged to spend, they will also need ways to get their purchases home, which would favour private vehicles as it is difficult getting a shopping cart full of food back home using public transport or on a bike. Underground or Multi-story parking can also be considered which would maximise the available land.
@RevengeofGothzilla Жыл бұрын
2:14 "Nobody wants to go somewhere that only exists to be parking." I reject this premise. As a truck driver, I frequently go to places that only exist as parking, and any services or attractions on site are purely a bonus.
@mcrichards694 Ай бұрын
Now imagine how much better your job would be if the people who didn’t want to drive had alternative forms of transportation that take up less space and don’t result in traffic jams. The possibilities, man.
@4diamondz318 Жыл бұрын
Only benefit to a closed out business and it's massive parking lot: RV /trailer parking for those struggling to find cheap housing!
@MichaelSalo Жыл бұрын
Almost every view of the Reno area is completely depressing and unlivable by humans.
@MathieuTechMoto Жыл бұрын
Never thought of that this way, why on earth do we have parkings for bars and taverns, that makes absolutely no sense at all, good one !
@tay-lore Жыл бұрын
The overhead view of that 45 acre parking lot with a tiny "mall" in the middle of it is so eerie...
@deebte__ Жыл бұрын
7:48 i was going to little caesars with my dad today and i drove three blocks of the way there, luckily i live in a grid suburb so i could use a small street, actually driving on the road is probably a much better way to learn how than spinning around an abandoned parking lot, because the actual road has other people, even if only one in my case, stop signs, actual meaningful places to turn (to get where we were going), and other stuff to do rather than only learn how to operate the vehicle which even people who have never driven have a basic understanding of
@The_k81 2 жыл бұрын
You're making excellent content thank you. I discovered you today and I really enjoyed watching! Subscribed
@trafficjammin1 Жыл бұрын
This is something that I struggled with during my career as a traffic engineer. Been on both sides of the argument, and in reality, the only time I ever saw a shopping mall's parking utilization approach capacity was Black Friday weekend.
@p1mason 2 жыл бұрын
The true irony is that, even if the whole city was paved for parking and there was nothing else there, there would still be people not allowed to go there because not everybody is allowed to drive. Build transit OTOH and suddenly the place is accessible to everybody.
@RexWort Жыл бұрын
Or build parking structures Just like we have build housing upward to have space for other things So should parking cars
@auxin903 2 жыл бұрын
I really love how you did a sq ft comparison over how much surface area is actual buildings compared to parking. I remember at the Texas Riparian Association's conference only a few years ago being astounded at a similar math, when they compared exactly how much of our urban area was non-porous concrete. A great deal of the conference and the association in general was trying emphasize how twisted and dangerous and wasteful our urban areas are with water. All the water dumped in an upscale "economical" part of the city is usually siphoned quickly off to poorer (less white) areas to cause flash flooding.
@rautakoura4692 Жыл бұрын
as someone who has never even visited North America, the footage of lone buildings surrounded by practically nothing is so unsettling to me. I'm glad the city I live in is perfectly liveable without a car (well, not perfectly, but close!)
@HowtoBuildtheWorld 2 жыл бұрын
you are spiting facts and it hurts so good to hear
@questcore636 Жыл бұрын
what needs to happen is to start replacing free parking with parking garages so we can make space for more apartments
@Iconoplastt 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, very informative!! Very high quality video too!
@beerenmusli8220 Жыл бұрын
This was very enlightening and a great explanation!
@quazar5017 Жыл бұрын
Imagine running a car wash and beeing required to supply parking lots.
@abel6846 Жыл бұрын
In many cities in the Netherlands there is a maximum parking allowance. If a business puts in more parking, the city can force them to rip out the surplus.
@paulo7200 Жыл бұрын
One cannot function in Reno without a car. South Reno to North Valleys is like 30 miles. The bus system is a violence and drug infested version of the Star Wars bar scene. Any nice bicycle will be promptly stolen even if locked. Still, I'm happy to watch your channel and catch up on what's new in RNO.
@fatrobin72 Жыл бұрын
The new retail Park near me is going to have a Picnic Area... admittedly the only way to get to it is to cross Roads (especially if using the new bus stop built for it... on the other side of the main road)... and it does however still have more parking space than building area
@KOZMOuvBORG Жыл бұрын
Housing's essential, yet taxed to the max. While most parking spaces are free. Guess cars are more important than people.
@patches4170 11 ай бұрын
While studying in Stuttgart I was hanging out with my flatmate drinking beer, bantering about random stuff thats plain crazy. And he just goes "dude havent you noticed its crazy how everyone has and drives up to 2 tonnes of steel". That was 3 years ago and absolutely broke me, because after him having said that, I cant walk down a street anymore without realizing that a THIRD of everything I see are these stupid metal boxes. Wherever you go in a city theres cars cars cars everywhere, if they arent moving theyre parked. So much space goes to car companies instead of the people, and it really hurts every day, and I cant begin to fathom how much we spend on these spaces for cars. And its best not to think what could be done with zhe space. God forbid you get the idea that all that space could be making money instead... Potential millions in city revenue gone from the people that actually live here and into the hands of the greedy bastards leading the car companies and germanies largest conservative party, which ruled for over 16 years... Its all very saddening and no matter where ypu go you see it and you cant unsee it
@edwardmiessner6502 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail and 0:50 You can build whole residential neighborhoods for the malls in their parking lots! 5:20 That's a parking lot with a mixed use development attached!
@YenderFonseca Жыл бұрын
Never been to the US, don't even know why I'm watching but great video man.
@ILovePancakes24 Жыл бұрын
huh turns out you don't go to the mall, you go to a parking lot that happens to be near a mall.
@kurisu7885 Жыл бұрын
A shopping plaza fairly close to my house has nice little seating area with a pergola, that I never see being used because of how much the parking lot spreads things out.
@Combinehuntsmanunit Жыл бұрын
Melbourne does have a lot of parking and the roads are a lot wider because usually there is two lanes on both sides and parking on the outside large enough for trucks and in the city there’s an additional tram in the middle
@e.tezani3877 Жыл бұрын
Reno public market and city center.. are they ever gonna be complete?
@biercenator Жыл бұрын
This makes me curious whether any such regulation exists in Japan. Malls have their massive parking structures, but elsewhere parking mostly depends on automated pay-per-hour setups on small vacant lots here and there. I've retired from research life, but I may follow this one up. I'm curious.
@Dre2Dee2 Жыл бұрын
Considering the state of Japanese buildings and their complete lack of code, the answer is probably no Japan is a country that desperate needs space, so parking lots are obviously unneeded because of that
@biercenator Жыл бұрын
@@Dre2Dee2 Where do you get your information? I can look this stuff up, or go ask staff at city hall, but pointers are always welcome.
@Truth-of-the-matter 2 жыл бұрын
Most American cities and counties are terrible because of the how they design the parking lots and where they place the buildings. Buildings should be placed on the sidewalk and parking structures should be placed behind the building. If you incorporate good public transit then more people can shop at the establishments. Also double or tripped stacking business greatly cuts down on space wasted which can be used for other things (more apartments, condos, better parking). We can't continue to build the same neighborhoods while also providing poor public transit.
@enjoyslearningandtravel7957 2 жыл бұрын
I’m especially like the idea that buildings such a shop should be placed near the sidewalk and the parking should be placed behind the building and of course not as much parking.
@danwylie-sears1134 Жыл бұрын
15:10 "These prices should fluctuate ..." I don't like surprise pricing. When someone is looking at an apartment, they should be able to know how much it costs to park there. Apartments with good public transit and walkable amenities rent at a premium, but that price difference looks bigger when the price of parking is unknown. If we're going to get rid of parking minimums (and we should), we have to address the issue of businesses paying for parking that are used by customers of adjacent businesses. Margins for many businesses are thin enough that paying for someone else's customer parking, versus having someone else pay for yours, can make the difference between a profitable business and an unprofitable one. Customers are going to pay the cost of parking, one way or another. The problem with paying directly at the lot is that it's annoying, not that it's expensive. It's nice to just have the price of merchandise include the cost of parking, and pay the same amount in the long run without having to fuss with it. Only it isn't the same amount, if it means that more land is devoted to parking.
@fmphotooffice5513 Жыл бұрын
What isn't mentioned is the huge amount of area BETWEEN proposed solutions. As long as people are stuck in their cars to get ANYWHERE, these ideal solutions would require huge PARKING LOTS. Maybe the plan should specify THOSE parking spots as available for new healthy development when human participation reaches a specific number. We can let research determine what that is. Just saying let's put up paid parking everywhere will cause huge pushback from the public stuck in their cars.
@elricengquist9989 Жыл бұрын
Having something like employee an facility parking near the business would be good so employees can park close as well as vehicles needed for the business like deliveries for restaurants or shops can be done. Yet having more of a communal parking lot located near the area that all f the businesses help pay for an can be used by anyone to leave a car going to the shops in the area could work. It opens up more land for more shops, but also makes it that the spots could be used by anyone for any shop. Issue I have seen is that some shops will almost run off people trying to park in their shop's parking lot that is going to another store to shop, which costs both stores an the customers money.
@Poptartsicles 2 жыл бұрын
Cities would save so much money on infrastructure cost if homes and businesses were built with density in mind. And they could use those savings on investing in better transit and alternative transportation. Parking is only needed if it's the only reasonable way to get around. If businesses were built more densely there would be more small business closer to your home, instead of more empty parking lots near your home. You may find you don't need to drive as much anymore if more services become walking distance.
@geniferteal4178 Жыл бұрын
Interesting example if I look at the recently built Target store, I've often seen that lot mostly full. I think they estimated well there and I don't live in a city area. This time someone got it right or close to it.
@a.taylor8294 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice that you spelled acre as "Arcre" in your bar graph?
@tinkthestrange Жыл бұрын
I hate paying for on street parking. I wish there was a way for cities to build multi level parking lots within walking distance of downtown/interesting areas so I wouldn’t have to pay to park, I wouldn’t have to fight for street spots and I wouldn’t have to drive all over town just to do multiple things in one day.
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
Or demand your cities/state massively build up public transit so you won't need your own car.
@E11or 8 ай бұрын
You wont to use valuable space then fucking pay for it. Life doesn’t revolve around your preference
@loneIyboy15 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate finally hearing an urbanism channel propose an actual feasible solution to whatever car-centric problem is brought up. Usually it's just "We need to fund more public transportation!", or "TRAINS!". But yeah, eliminating parking minimums could give developers the chance to re-purpose their land without risking millions in taxpayer money on some new harebrained government scheme. The next thing to do would be to encourage the use of smaller vehicles, like scooters, and Velomobiles. But these sorts of things are driven by consumer demand, so it's not like that one can be legislated away.
@herlescraft 2 жыл бұрын
The issue here is that any move against car is going to receive a large push back from people as the US is so car centric but so little socialized that it's hard not to harm the lower class but induce change at the same time. A sure solution to reduce sprawl and vehicle size would be toll roads and fuel taxes, but considering how depended on cars people are those would absolutely hammer the poorer demographics... Finding a balance where what you do is meaningful but doesn't punish those less flexible is hard even if the current status quo is exactly what they are in that situation to begin with.
@hendman4083 2 жыл бұрын
@@herlescraft Repurposing unused parking space is hardly a move against cars.
@herlescraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@hendman4083 but it's hardly consequential, true move against care have consequences that can change a city in a short time, repurposing parking lots sure is nice but it isn't going to make large portion of the US population change in to a smaller car or give it up all together
@Xenomorph-hb4zf 2 жыл бұрын
Smaller vehicles will never work. Why would someone want to drive a car that's smaller than a Toyota Corolla?
@loneIyboy15 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xenomorph-hb4zf To get the fuel savings only a vehicle that gets 6600 MPGe would get you. Or the cost savings to maintain a vehicle with 30x fewer parts. Or the up-front cost savings you get when you buy a vehicle that cost half to a quarter as much as a brand-new IC, or an eight as much as a Tesla. I'm talking, of course, about Velomobiles.
@shioyoutube9041 Жыл бұрын
I used to be annoyed by paid parking and I used to prefer it when we could park for free, but after I looked more into it I realised I much prefer paying for it because it’s so much better than the alternative. The sheer amount of usually free surface parking in America is horrifying and the expensive multi-storey car parks in my town are so much preferable.
@Andrea-lj4jg Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering, which american city has the largest % of land reserved for parking?
@alexismiller288 Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the Texas ones.
@drwalka10 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me understand this guy's beef with parking garages aka the most efficient way (land wise) to park
@nataliekhanyola5669 Жыл бұрын
It dedicates soo much space to cars! you could build extra apartments or any other usable structure. It centres cars over people, which is a huge problem.
@matthk6528 Жыл бұрын
To add, parking garages add a bunch of "blank" space that is unusable to everyone except cars. Imagine walking in a very cute, central, older section of a big city with brick townhouses, well cared for trees, and businesses with apartments above them. Suddenly, every building you were looking at go away and a concrete box is on your side with nothing to do for an entire block or two. The sidewalk around it is covered in dirt, trash, and other refuse, the trees look visibly worse, because less people walk around it. Less care is needed/expected here. Drivers do not see the dirt and trash as easily as pedestrians (and potentially cause that grossness to collect). Additionally, like Natalie said, it dedicates spaces to cars which incentivizes their use, causing the same cycle mentioned in this video. Parking garages are not a solution to parking, they are a coverup. Only underground parking helps the problem with businesses and city character, but they still incentivize driving.
@UserName-ts3sp Жыл бұрын
it’s better than parking lots but his beef is that it still encourages car-oriented development.
@dvderek 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the sources you shared in the video, nice job!
@ryanjones2297 Жыл бұрын
it could be that your cause and effect are reversed. It makes much more sense for more people with cars lead to more area for parking rather than increasing parking made more people get cars and drive.
@Joesolo13 Жыл бұрын
Nope, that just means they've failed to build a good transit system.
@ryanjones2297 Жыл бұрын
@@Joesolo13 Depends on the area we are talking about. In a place like the US, people are too spread out, we all don't live in cities and making a mass transit system in the suburbs and rural areas just isn't cost effective.
@bullydungeon9631 2 жыл бұрын
You have a good voice and cadence for this type of video keep it up
@gildone84 Жыл бұрын
All those parking garages in that new "walkable" neighborhood raise the price of housing too. They cost, what, $30,000 per space or something?
@Joesolo13 Жыл бұрын
Proving it's desirable from Supply and Demand. We should build more.
@E11or 8 ай бұрын
@@Joesolo13logic of a bug
@mikeohawk95 Жыл бұрын
Also just build malls above huge space wasting parking like 2-3 levels higher with more parking and more shops spaces and rooftop enenrgy/ farm plants and parklands for leisure time above the ground with easy access raps/ elevators for easy access fro all
@jixster1566 10 ай бұрын
We built such an ugly ass society. I cant believe people actually accept living like this. And fixing it shouldn't be a political issue. Its just common sense. Revitalizing towns' economies and communities with more intelligent planning is something I feel like over 90% of people would support. Maybe I'm just naive.
@rjdverbeek Жыл бұрын
4% of US GDP is used for providing "free" parking
@stevengordon3271 2 жыл бұрын
Even when all the parking spaces are taken, there are usually vacant handicapped spaces.
@Lempira27 Жыл бұрын
You will still need a car to go to the ski resorts. They are 35 minutes away from the city.
@Joesolo13 Жыл бұрын
Buses and Trains.
@E11or 8 ай бұрын
Were i live i take the bus directly to the Ski Resort. Insane right?😂
@wturner777 5 ай бұрын
@@Joesolo13Which we all need more of.
@stevengordon3271 2 жыл бұрын
I love parallel parking because so few people have the skills to utilize it.
@blankb7483 Жыл бұрын
Good video but.. You don't pronounce the S's in Des Moines
@TheBurritoLord Жыл бұрын
i don’t think having a developer build an entire mixed use district all at once is the way to go
@azebramoomoo2727 Жыл бұрын
Legit thought the thumbnail was modded cities skylines because it it so ridiculous
@pragmatist7455 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that midtown housing development is going down like the Titanic. One bedroom, one bath for $2200? Laughable. Do they realize that the average annual salary in Reno is $60,000? If I'm not mistaken, the investment group responsible for this development is out of the Bay Area. It's almost like they did absolutely no research on the local demographic. It's sad and unfortunate that the site of an eye sore of a shopping mall abandoned for over 10 years is only going to be replaced by an empty ghost town of apartments that no one in their right mind would move into. Furthermore, I don't see any retailers or grocery stores setting up shop in that development (probably because of sky high rents?). The nearest mall that could support that development is probably only a mile away, but the sad reality is that even that is too far for the average Renoer to not jump in their car and drive.
@linuxman7777 2 жыл бұрын
we can have free parking, it just shouldn't be paved, and sit outside urbanized areas. It is the financially sustainable way to do parking, and how rural areas have done parking since forever.
@geniferteal4178 Жыл бұрын
I like that. it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy (sort of). The lot teaches young kids how to drive so they can come back and park there someday.
@jimmyfowler7344 Жыл бұрын
Just allow people to keep their RVs in these parking lots and BAM !!! pedestrian friendly villages are instantly created within walking distance of local businesses
@wturner777 5 ай бұрын
Then they’re gonna start charging rent, and it will be too expensive.
@mcrichards694 Ай бұрын
That might just be crazy enough to work.
@manitoba-op4jx Жыл бұрын
in my experience, the industrial revolution made "urban" and "wealth" mutually exclusive terms.
@Schlabbeflicker Жыл бұрын
A simple switch to unimproved land value tax for a majority of state revenue funding, as well as the state assessing LVT on itself (federal, state, and local governments included) would gradually see most of these market distortions eliminated on their own as a market mechanism. Why would municipalities require free parking if that parking directly impacts the revenue potential for a business? Why would municipalities offer free on-street parking if they have to pay out of pocket to pay for it? Why would irrational zoning laws keep density low if the driving concern of businesses and residents were to reduce per-sqft tax burden?
@nileshalinger Жыл бұрын
usually 5 to 1
@KIKROX86 Жыл бұрын
I love living in Reno NV best place to live
@fluentsloffy9420 Жыл бұрын
pog new urban channel comment for engagement points
@Mike1064ab Жыл бұрын
The whole idea of parking should be less so it encourages people to just go inside buy what they need quickly and then leave so the next person can park there. Don’t encourage them to stay any longer than necessary. That discourages people who just loiter and cause trouble to stick around. Have a strict 30 min max parking time maybe an hour for some big stores but basically the parking is only for people shopping there.