Yoram Hazony with Mary Eberstadt | Home Alone Revolution | NatConTalk

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National Conservatism

3 жыл бұрын

NatConTalk Episode 9: Yoram Hazony talks with Mary Eberstadt, author of “Home Alone America,” “It’s Dangerous to Believe,” and “Primal Screams: How the Sexual Revolution Created Identity Politics.” They discuss how the sexual revolution of the 1960s brought about the destruction of family formation in America and other Western countries, the destruction of identity formation among children, smaller families, the disappearance of fathers, and the way in which all this has wrecked religious communities and undermined national cohesion. To purchase the book: www.amazon.com/Primal-Screams...
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@guruprasadf07
@guruprasadf07 Жыл бұрын
She's like the Grandma we all miss in our lives!
@chackachacka6990
@chackachacka6990 2 жыл бұрын
As a child who grew up in a single parent home I have suffered greatly in my life and in myself from not having two parents. It leaves you feeling tether less. So many of her point I deeply deeply resonate with I see in my own life. Just not having the roll modelling of that dynamic has been tough on every relationship I have had.
@mrchrisadams43
@mrchrisadams43 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that the world is so confused, yet the analysis that explains everything can be found on and obscure KZfaq video.
@YohananBenYosef
@YohananBenYosef 3 жыл бұрын
A tremendously important conversation. Thanks so much!
@marchess286
@marchess286 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best and most important interview so far.
@marysisak2359
@marysisak2359 2 жыл бұрын
It is very telling that such a profound and enlightening discussion only has 3600 view in one year. Baby boomers (including myself) need to face up to the fact that we screwed up and take responsibility for it.
@paulbucklebuckle4921
@paulbucklebuckle4921 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks ,, wish my parents could realise that.
@marysisak2359
@marysisak2359 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulbucklebuckle4921 There was a handful of radicals and unfortunately many of us got swept up in it although that does not absolve us of responsibility. It all sounded so reasonable. If our faith had been genuine, we would have seen it for what it was.
@shadowblue746
@shadowblue746 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Yoram, I wish more Irish people would look at these excellent discussions. Nothing of this calibre exists over here, thinking at another level.
@riphopfer5816
@riphopfer5816 3 жыл бұрын
I am convinced that Mrs. Eberstadt is correct.
@barakeit1
@barakeit1 3 жыл бұрын
This is a profoundly important discussion. Patrick Moynihan got into trouble in the 1960's expressing his concern about the destruction of the black family in America, which is now occurring in white families. This is an idea that hopefully, its time has come. It would also be important/challenging/controversial to take a look at the dysfunction in a family and a society where the father is brutal, authoritarian and the mother is brutalized and must be obedient, with no recourse to help.
@janeself9827
@janeself9827 3 жыл бұрын
Great talk. Thank you.
@sashadence6409
@sashadence6409 2 жыл бұрын
I think what Mr. Hazony says here about the pain of staying married -- of raising children -- is the key. It isn't only pain, of course -- maybe not mostly pain but there will large swatches of time where it is. Historically pain was taken for granted. Of course living involved a lot self denial -- a lot of doing what you don't want to pretty much most of the time. The alternative to the pain of family was much much worse and I think only people who've lived through times (like the world wars for eg., or just the usual amount of death and disease that has always been normal) saw family as much better than other 'pains'. But in affluent liberal societies -- we don't really get that living and pain are pretty much givens. And romance, has become one of the biggest ways to be so happy in western society because happiness is not only expected and assumed to be the point of life, it's a human right. But reality doesn't match this belief. I think what Jennifer Roback-Morse wrote in the Sexual State hits the issue when she describes the sexual revolution as anti-reality -- and thus anti-love. Her thesis is that 3 delusional disasters have created the nightmare for children in teh current affluent West. 1 - separating sex from procreation (the point of sex, after all -- right?) 2) separating child-rearing from marriage and 3) eliminating the difference between men and women.
@DanSme1
@DanSme1 3 жыл бұрын
As a Boomer ('49) who lived it, the 1960s social "revolution" was caused by the philosophical crisis that emerged from the secular Enlightenment. Despite their nominal Catholicism, my parent were relativists/liberals. Circumstances forced me to turn to Protestant Evangelicalism to find true meaning. Both Mary and Yoram might be the cultural heirs of enough of the Judeo-Christian framework and God's design for marriage and family that they are free to ponder "where the train left the tracks." It's not what they say is 'wrong', it just doesn't capture the bigger picture. Because of her more conservative Catholic background, Mary Eberstadt's view seems truncated by the "'60s Sexual Revolution" as the primary cause of contemporary problems.
@pikiwiki
@pikiwiki 3 жыл бұрын
agree with this. Mary, while erudite and lucid, specifies present difficulties to a particular period in time. Not sure if these difficulties can be restricted exactly to that.
@commercialrealestatephilos605
@commercialrealestatephilos605 2 жыл бұрын
As a child to boomers who embraced the sex and drugs of the era, I can say Mary’s analysis and tying the cultural rot to the 1960s and the so called freedoms that boomers gave to following generations, is absolutely spot on. Drug abuse, divorce, breakdown of the family, etc are all the result/fruit of (on the whole) a very selfish generation.
@paulbucklebuckle4921
@paulbucklebuckle4921 2 жыл бұрын
@@commercialrealestatephilos605 my thoughts exactly, ironically my boomer lefty parents who set a terrible example now want to be treated with the care and respect old people should be despite not only not earning it but actually spending the first half of their lives absolutely trashing those values and disrespecting their parents .
@viviennedunbar3374
@viviennedunbar3374 2 жыл бұрын
I think a big issue is that by being the biggest generation ever, a huge young generation engulfed the older generations. The typical rebellion, enthusiasm, idealism and naivete of youth went wild because it could as it coincided with a time of economic prosperity, contraception and an otherwise apparently staid and solid society. If the generation had been a lot smaller it would be unlikely to have had the huge impact it did. In sheer numbers (as typical married couples had 4 children) it was just easy to ignore the parents and join in a materialistic frenzy that was highly sexual because they were so young. If the numbers in your town are twice or three times the previous generation its much easier to assume your way is better because it's so popular, but that was just a demographic fluke.
@kemathenga
@kemathenga 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think the implications of the sexual revolution were even worse for us in Germany. Not only copied we everything American, we also struggled with our history. My parents's generation identified almost everything paternal with 3rd Reich. Nationalism was, and is, anathema sit. My siblings and I, in our unconscious need for having an ancestry, identified with several nationalities, ethnicities, regions and ideologies, desperately trying to belong. The role GER currently plays in the EU and inwardly IMHO is the direct result of the destruction of fatherhood in 1968.
@paulbucklebuckle4921
@paulbucklebuckle4921 2 жыл бұрын
Hello my German friend from England 😎👍😎
@LuvLebaneseWomen
@LuvLebaneseWomen Жыл бұрын
@asmrwithdora8464
@asmrwithdora8464 Жыл бұрын
Excellent conversation (beware loud, obnoxious music during the end credits, though).
@marysisak2359
@marysisak2359 2 жыл бұрын
How can someone understand the love of God if they did not have the love of their mother? Saying to someone that did not come from a loving home that "Jesus loves you" is meaningless to them.
@pikiwiki
@pikiwiki 3 жыл бұрын
Just read Eberstadt's article in The Spectator. Have not read Anything that so clearly nails the start of the trend that has culminated in today's political climate. Although, have to wonder if the schism she describes has been a constant in life at large and not confined to the historical period of post WW2 America.
@deniseaileen5955
@deniseaileen5955 Жыл бұрын
This is a good reminder to have some sympathy for the progressive left - especially the young people.
@susampson278
@susampson278 Жыл бұрын
You better go further then mere "sympathy". Youngsters, teens, are finding strength and ID in the collective facilitated by 24/7 web access. It's divorcing them from the "real world" (which is OFFLINE). Soon it may too late, maybe it already is. For example, wise parents are confiscating wireless phones from children infected with the transgender contagion, to repossess them as parents...
@adamwalker2377
@adamwalker2377 3 жыл бұрын
53:46 and with that one quip you undid everything you argued before.
@marysisak2359
@marysisak2359 2 жыл бұрын
Must agree with you there.
@paulbucklebuckle4921
@paulbucklebuckle4921 2 жыл бұрын
Yep the image of men as baboons and children so often portrayed everywhere 🤐
@raisingantifa2123
@raisingantifa2123 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is capitalism combined with brutal hierarchy
@kamilziemian995
@kamilziemian995 10 ай бұрын
Interesting talk. But, you shouldn't count on conservatives to do much to support good ideas.
@freedommascot
@freedommascot 3 жыл бұрын
We can’t go back to the past but need to create new structures. Both religion and the family are anachronisms as they do not represent the fluid, changing nature of existence but posit an unrealistic stability in their static forms. We absolutely need caring and sensitive caregivers but not to make them conform to some kind of mother or father archetype. This is because the future lies in allowing for the uniqueness of each child to develop and helping them seek their unique place in the world. The same thing with the religious archetypes-they serve to close windows onto Existence as much as they might open some.
@kemathenga
@kemathenga 3 жыл бұрын
Children don't want to be unique, they want to belong. Uniqueness without belonging is just isolation. Our children's re told they're unique on instagram every day and it makes them sick.
@samuelreiter6412
@samuelreiter6412 3 жыл бұрын
Where in the animal world are gender roles fluid? If swans can mate for life, why can’t humans? This progressive utopia doesn’t exist anywhere because it doesn’t work.
@eggymixes
@eggymixes 3 жыл бұрын
So...if not mother and father what are the “sensitive caregivers” you speak of? We should look to neighbors, friends, priests, the governments grandparents to raise our kids? Who do you mean?
@GinnyShilliday
@GinnyShilliday 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that.
@viviennedunbar3374
@viviennedunbar3374 2 жыл бұрын
Caring for your own biological child as a mother is a very strong inbuilt desire. If you think you are going to separate children from their biological parents you will have a massive reaction on your hands. I think this is happening already with women’s fury and anger at men who can claim to be women because they "feel" like one. And that we are "cervix havers" "bleeders" "breeders". I was on the Left in my youth but would never vote for the left while they actively destroy the family and mother-child bond.
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