*knockback reduction armor

It's funny because the game kinda already has a super armor limit built in, with how past 125(?) percent, super armor starts breaking really easily

Truly the lebron james of ssbm

@@carlos41519 Bro what?

@@aronianspigonian8589 I guess they're talking about how Lebron James is notorious for crying about things, and that Leffen is like that

Sooooo true

I don’t even play smash, but it’s so cool that a game this old is still having characters go up in tier purely by player skill

Leffen is the king of "not my fault i lost, it was the game's fault, not your skill" also anyone that gets angry about yoshi doing well is just pouting that they followed the meta instead of developing their own (to be fair, with slippi it is much faster to develop these days)

“I will defeat you with the power of friendship! (And this Yoshi I found)” - aMSa

@@drunkengibberish1143people don’t know that that’s an actual quote from amsa

@@MonumentalDongwait thats amazing

@@sythrus i lied lol got ur ass

​@@MonumentalDongMenace

True XDDD

A full time job in JAPAN too

but don't you know? streaming is infinitely harder than any entry level job, as the almighty leffen himself has experienced and decreed LMFAO

@@blujay1294 I still get mad over that comment, damn

Damn, he’s been working a 9 to 5, and is still on that train? No shame in honest work. Mad respect to Amsa.

The unconventional ones are the strongest characters

@@justacoolguy336 yea idk dude, link is definitely worse than fox

@@TheCagedK depends. I don't think so tho

@@TheCagedK Worse definitely, Fox and Falco are broken ass fighting game characters. Shine is an abomination. The question should be is Link could enough to win anyways etc.

@@ReavenM1911A1 What makes characters not top tier is usually very simple things like having a grab that's super easy to punish. A melee version that changed the least amount of stuff to only a reasonable enough degree that it achieves some kind of relative balance would be pretty cool imo. Not like Project M. That is way too much.

"We need an egg limit"

@@user-ox3ov2qt5o What, in 2012?

@@user-ox3ov2qt5o after what he did and how he responded to Zer0. I wouldn't put it past him.

@@user-ox3ov2qt5o Leffen? Being a hypocrite? _no waaaay!_

@@IPromiseTomorrow how did he respond to zer0? been outta the scene for years and can't remember shit lol

💀💀💀

all leffen is, is an effen L 🤣

Can't spell Leffen without 2 Fs and an L

10/10 commentary

“Yoshi is a cheesy character, he isn’t honest.” Leffen, probably

@@MantaRaydiated "When a bunch of people complained about me being a shitty person they were all lying". Leffen, on record.

Doesn't he john about the Samus matchup too?

@@QuantemDeconstructor he johns about every match up he loses,but the puff one in particular seems to piss him off the most cuz he went on so many twitter tirades and directed many of his fanboys to shit on hungrybox because of it

@@GanonAutumn777 Yeah I remember before puff got as popular as she is now he johned about Samus a ton since he wasn't good at that matchup

@@QuantemDeconstructor And don’t forget Marth

Puff is annoying as hell though

His yoshi is the most interesting thing I've seen in melee

It's been said bro...

@@babysealclub11 you joking 😂

@@Dragon123Sam ... theres no way man... come on now 🙈

by that logic fox/falco lasers should be limited too, since theyre both projectiles

“Yoshi can’t jump out of shield”

Yeah that´s fucking crazy. aMSa´s Yoshi moves so fast

Sorry, I don't know much about melee, what is apm?

@@_-M-_actions per minute

​@@_-M-_ im guessing its attacks per minute, fox is a very fast character

@_-M-_ no worries dude we all learn every day. Apm isn't melee specific! It simply means "actions per minute", which references how many button presses/movements are done.

Yoshi/aMSa is the new hotness in a 21-year old title, I don't blame them. It is annoying that they still mix up the terminology on some of Yoshi's defensive options though.

Years and years of perfecting his style, it was about damn time he got this recognition

i don’t think “optimal” is a thing you can see and point at without actually playing the character bruh

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Yeah true alpha wins with yoshi

@@fluffydogloaf I dont even think it is optimal.. just the movements are so fucking nuts when youve played the game casually. All the little tricks to make those easily predictable movements precise and fast.

I have never watched these tournaments, are people always like that when they win? I have seen a video and amsa is always happy and shaking hadas but the guy who lost here immediatly left and didnt say a word.

@@ManimanocasaMSa is just the most happily expressive competitive player ever tbh

​@@Manimanocas They are the two extremes

@@Manimanocas This is Leffen we're talking about after all... the guy who helped spread the Smash community allegations (which, by the way, ended up being total fabrications) and still ended up being worshipped by the Smash community.

​@@GlitchanBlack the turkey tom of smash LMAO

It's like playing the piano. You eventually just do it without needing to think about it.

@@bluyu you could say its easier than piano because you have less keys haha

@@Nako3 Somewhat true. A piano doesn't need to be frame perfect to sound good though lol

@@bluyu lol yea :D

​@@bluyuAs a soloist, sure. In an ensemble? Frame perfect is about right. However, musical performance and competitive Smash are entirely different beasts, as you don't need to have reflexes and ranging skills as a pianist or rigid and consistent timings for the same five minutes a hundred times over as a smash player.

@@RipleySawzen appenantly, he said marth is 6-4 against fox

@@RipleySawzen lmao he will do that

@@RipleySawzen Oh

Though after seeing aMSa at Apex, I am ready to bump Yoshi up a slot or two.

@@RipleySawzen Leffen ranked Yoshi as #8 and put the top 8 as S-tier.

Ahaha came to say this.

LMAO

HIS DRIP TAKING Ls TOO

Damn he took a sponsorship from FTX too???

Lmao Leffin losing in all aspects rn

Surprised you can follow that part as it's pure meta right there; all mind games

As soon as you play, you’ll feel a completely different game. What these guys are doing is anything but natural, or even intended by the developers

Everyone has to fight a Fox eventually, so they all know how to fight Fox.

aMSa does for Yoshi what Tea did for Pac-Man in Smash 4, and hell...Smash Ultimate too, but especially Smash 4 with unlimited key drop combos.

Leffen originally mained yoshi

@@peepeepoopoo7325 that says nothing lol amsa is cracked and been playing yoshi all this time so he still have waaay more experience with it

@@peepeepoopoo7325 Leffen's yoshi isnt even close to comparable to Amsa's. Amsa has redefined yoshi as a character in this game.

Is like in Tekken, with Rangchu using Panda, absolutely nobody has great match up knowledge about playing against Panda; thankfully amsa also has the technique and talent to make these matches so amazing to watch.

Yeah, same for amsa too

He lives in Canada now so lots of practice

IKR, i'm so proud of him! I still remember when he would turn to Toph for help and when Slime said he wanted to stay abreast of the news, aMSa said "breasts on the news?" XD

Bro amsa became 英語上手 How the turntables

armada moment

1 man can change the world. I think 1 man can definitely change melee

@@ardentknight88 Speaking of which, how come there aren't any top players who use Peach anymore?

@@whosaidiwantedahandle llod is arguably top 10, polish top 20, and trif recently beat leffen

Are you talking about Armada, Hbox, or Amsa?

Leffen was never a god

The fact that they are even referred to as gods is goofy in itself. They are super good at a game that someone else made...cool. "God" is an over-exaggeration lol

@@foyo5497 I mean, it’s a figure of speech…? It’s a cultural term in the melee community, the same way we refer to someone being “insanely good” at a game, we call them a god at it because we mean it figuratively and more so objectively, not literally being a god? It’s just a replacement of a word with slang, not really an over exaggeration based on its usual context.

@@foyo5497 They were the 5 greatest players at one point in the game, the skill gap between them and other players was so vast that the 6th best player could barely take stocks off them. That's why they got that title.

@@EdDevil thats not even remotely true, there were dozens of players who were close enough in skill level to consistently take games off them, and also several players who even took sets. They were just distinct because they were the only 5 players who were winning majors and all had at least 1 set win on the other 4, and it was a huge cornerstone to be the first person to take a set off all 5. Hax and Wobbles even came close by beating 4/5 of them, Leffen was the first to beat all 5 though. It was always a dumb title and I remember m2k complaining about it back in the day.

Yeah in person I saw him at Shine 2023 dude is not human haha his fingers are like Guitar Hero tier

Armor and good ass resets. He's top 6. S tier. Just deal with it

@@TreyMM-qz4wg Half of Amsa's punishes only work because people keep missing techs due to matchup unfamiliarity. Yoshi is not that good.

@@Adam_U nah hes resetting people and chasing them down. Yoshis that good

@@Adam_U you sound like 'L'effen.

lmao isnt one of the ppl saying yoshi is top tier amsa himself? lol, guess you would know better than him

It’s really satisfying seeing that little shit get bodied

Can we mod it? It'd be one of those minimal fighters like dive kick or footsies. 5 stock, 300% damage, FD, and the only moves that works are Fox up smash and maybe shield.

@@powerpc127 that sounds chaotic and fun

​@@powerpc127 shield is actually a tier 0 move, leffen would have it banned

I don’t know if that’s the ONLY good thing. Just probably the best thing.

@@GuyN0ir I said what I said lol. Although it’s fun to laugh at leffen being a clown, I think melee is better off dead with all the other 20 year old games that aged like milk

@@Heavymetalthunda3 I personally think longer lifespans for competitive games is a good thing. Melee isn't the only one where the meta kept evolving far into the game's lifespan.

@@GuyN0ir the game and the community are both awful lol. It’s also holding back any future smash titles because of stupid dickheads like leffen who spend the entire month after the game comes out crying about how melee is better because the new game is different. How is the meta evolving? one guy won with yoshi against someone infamous for not doing his homework and making excuses when he loses because he’s not as good as he thinks he is. That’s not meta evolution that’s one guy winning with yoshi lol. even if the meta is “still evolving,” the game is outdated and plays like shit compared to literally anything made in the last 10 years. Like I said, I think it’s better off being fondly remembered than being forcibly kept alive by boomers who don’t like change keeping it hooked up to life support

yeah, melee should die. chess is old hat as well. we should make way for the new, better games. oh wait.

22 years, I wouldn't count that as going on 30 years. I was like 12 when this game came out, don't make me feel so old lol

@@NathanRW dude, the game is actually 30 years old and you and I are actually 60.

I am Elgorth, the elder sage of 200 years in the hidden Kingdom of Argand. Super Smash Bros Melee came out when I was 20.

@@hps362 ishnuallah sranger I too am from the forgotten lands of the future

@@NathanRW I was like 10 I think jeezus or like 9

Soon to be LLLLLLeffen arc for the amount of L he gets

From Big Leff to Big L

Nah, this takes away from aMSa and Soonsay. They're cracked.

Hahaha wtf I love your music

Randomly checking my comments -> see a comment about someone liking music -> its a reply to this -> listen -> damn this shit is good Nice music!

Leffen is free💯

Literally the reason I clicked on this video

Hater

@@nickcage6389 lmfao cry

@@biblical_figure does this count😂

@@nickcage6389 yes because you're feigning snide sarcasm after you were the one who was pressed enough to reply

@@biblical_figure as you reply LOL some downy level b8

Not even that, but the _top-tier_ in the game, commonly ranked at SS lmao

LMAO

🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚

Why? O.O

Good one 😂

@@lmoney6948 reference to leffen wanting to "limit air time" 😂

your life is something! you serve select purposes! you should acknowledge yourself now! and continue sharing oxygen that continues to be generated in this blue trapped bubble, because who really knows what we're here for? be aware of yourself. i mean that with a 100%. with a 1000%

@@ApexGale ok...?

@@earthrocker8955 LowTierGod reference.

Edit: Edited Low Tier God speech 1min kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msCdqq1pztrWY2Q.html

aMSa is totally the mid-tier god. I'm stealing this.

You are being reductive. Its like saying a volkswagen beetle is not fast because not enough people drive them Like I read somewhere, Yoshi has a high skill ceiling. What that means is that when you play to his strengths you can qualify for competitive setplay There are few people who are making too 8's with Yoshi because they are not confident in his kit. If AMSa's success was random, then you could attribute it to luck or riding the wave, but because he is consistent with the handling of the character you must put respect on Yoshi What people like you like to do is gather all of your favorite toys and play army with them. You are conditioned by dominant strategy to bet on the merits that reflect your likeness. In other words, that which is most like you should win, that which is confusing to you should lose In this case you fail to appreciate that their are levels to chess. Characters that have a set skill floor are consistently facing each other. Sometimes Marth is on top, sometime its Sheik, sometimes its Peach, and sometimes Puff By your own rhetoric, only the players make them good. What I'm saying is that because they are always in a round round robin as the proving ground, the value of those choices is variable. Its NOT always Marth or C Falcon, but they have been proven as success because of how _their_ kit is embellished by the meta For that reason you get players who are predisposed to certain habits because they believe that rote memorization is the path to proving themselves. I just wonder how your argument stands when aMSa is essentially proving the character through both hard work and talent

@@ramblincapuchin9075 nah, it's more like "this car is bad but this dude can do insane drift with it"

@@ramblincapuchin9075 i don't usually say this but... ratio.

puf lol

Okay, you don't see other puffs making grand finals either. Like I don't think Yoshi is a top 5 character, but this is a weak argument.

Same