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@jefolson69892 ай бұрын
I dont doubt this test. I replaced the original injectors on a nissan sentra with cheap chinese injectors. From 1 or 4 holes to twelve. Vastly improved power and MPG. Total price: about $30. Amazon. I just got lucky. In my experience as a cheap parts buyer, they either work or they dont. If they dont, nothing you can but send it back. No sense in trying to fix something thats new.
@gerardolozadluna41494 жыл бұрын
My question is is that machine made and China too?
@TEAMPHY6 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
Have only seen the first minute, and I'm sooo EXCITED to see the results... already hit you with a thumbs up
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@meyawabdulaziz38632 жыл бұрын
lesson learned ....no knock off injectors at all thank you very much
@sideshow454 жыл бұрын
How is it accurate when you have alot of the fluid leaking from the injectors at the top where it's not even sealed
@YostBuilt4 жыл бұрын
changed setup on last test after hour of cleaning and showed no difference
@jeffp57303 жыл бұрын
@@YostBuilt Then can you redo the video. I dont see how its possible to not show different results when fluid is obviously leaking from your set up. Even if not a drastic difference. Id never buy chinese injectors so i guess it doesn't matter anyway. But i love these data videos. Do you have a set of IDX and a set of FIC injectors you could run in there?
@pospc23 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. The knock offs would be next to impossible to tune for. I wasn't looking to buy knock off but was curious to see how they did.
@Shadow19862 жыл бұрын
its ok to buy knock-offs. i wont judge.
@jefolson69892 ай бұрын
I used cheapo ones from Amazon . Less than $30 for 4 ( compared to$100 for one). They work great. No complaints. I got 12 hole. While the holes are smaller but there are more of them making a complete clog less likely. No complaints.
@czorr19974 жыл бұрын
Informative video, one thing to make mention there is several models of 210’s short 35mm and mid length 48mm so they do exist from genuine.
@YostBuilt4 жыл бұрын
yeah ..ive found out alot of info after doing this test
@gerardolozadluna41494 жыл бұрын
Just like they said to good to be true
@dsmperformanceracing43553 жыл бұрын
Also come in ev14 aka ev9 and also ev1 style.
@JDMshitbox4 жыл бұрын
You're not supposed to use that billet spacer on the injector bottom. That's only supposed to be there to guide the injector when reverse flushing it.
@courtneytyson89354 ай бұрын
great video! in this case you get your money worth. we can see the quality difference
@zcomputerwiz3 күн бұрын
WOW! I would not have guessed they'd be that awful new out of the box.
@beachboardfan95442 жыл бұрын
How repeatable is that machine? If you run the same test multiple times, do you get the same result?
@NightshiftCustom24 күн бұрын
you need a way bigger/better fuel pump to be testing big injectors like this and that is why only your low speed test is somewhat close to right
@user-xq1wz3tp5z6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the demonstration. My 25 year old Saturn 'S' is coding P0172 after renewing the intake manifold. I bought a set of 4 cheap/Chinese injectors to test the system. I'm now very suspicious of the cheap injectors....
@0011clem2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting some $65 Australian set of injectors for a Toyota Rav 4 . After seeing this video will not be buying them now . China seems to be immune from prosecution regarding false labelling and copyright etc. Having made in Germany printed on the packects , when in fact they are cheap Chinese crap is an insult .
@willis23jm13 жыл бұрын
So I have learn tht we can buy up to 3 set of Chinese injectors and match set base on each performance 👍
@Super240sxturbo11 ай бұрын
Did you notice they flow different at different rpm? One he showed flowed Less then the others at idle but more then the others at high rpm
@willis23jm111 ай бұрын
@Super240sxturbo wouldn't that mainly affect idle... at high rpm it would mean not max power.... The main thing these top brand company does is to refine the sorting of injectors, that's what we paying big bucks for
@eliasmelendez12714 жыл бұрын
Well most aftermarket companies buy in bulk and test every single one and the ones that work get sent for sale and the ones that don't go to the trash. It is what it is, if you're on a budget than I can see your point
@YostBuilt4 жыл бұрын
they work tho ...just not the best
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
That does not apply to Bosch 2200cc injectors. They were designed and manufactured for Hydrogen Fuel vehicles, which are EXTREMELY sensitive to variances in fuel delivery. Therefore, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is done to them to come up with a perfect set. They are absolutely amazing injectors. Extremely linear, extremely well matched [from any one injector to any other of the millions of bosch 2200cc injectors], extremely good quality. The companies that relabel them as their own, simply do that, they relabel them, then jack the price up to twice the price. Do the research, you'll see. Only issue with them, is startup, they don't start flowing too perfectly at low volume. No way to fix it, just let the starter turn a couple more times. Hydrogen engines need a lot of fuel to start, so they don't use that low volume area. I'm sure you're thinking, so why did they not come up PERFECT in his test??? My thinking... it's the chinese test machine he used. It's not perfect.
@mattangelo12802 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving me time and money I was wondering if they were worth it. Nope!
@THEFERMANATOR2 жыл бұрын
Nice testing, but you should have looked at your pressure gauge, and realized those injectors flow more than your machines pump can feed which voids ALL of your test data. If you cannot hold consistent pressure to the injectors, then you will not get consistent, reliable, nor accurate results. With injectors of that size you really should be doing them 1 at a time on a machine that small.
@Super240sxturbo11 ай бұрын
It would be hard to compare doing one at a time. I believe you can upgrade the pump in the machine.
@THEFERMANATOR11 ай бұрын
@@Super240sxturbodoing some basic math, you would need minimum of 550 lph of fuel to supply 4 of these injectors at 43.5 psi. There are not very many single electric pumps that could supply that, not to mention you would need -8 lines, and a dual feed oversized fuel log to supply them that much fuel. Injector testers like this just cannot handle injectors of this size, hence why I said to only do 1 at a time. 2200 cc's(210 lb/hr, 35 gph, or 132 lph) at 43.5 psi of fuel is ALOT of fuel flow for 1 injector(many V8's use injectors that are only 15-20% this size), and even 1 at a time is more than a machine like this can handle since they only come with about a 100 lph pump.
@impactodelsurenterprise24408 ай бұрын
Finally someone who actually knows what his talking about instead of blindly following their own bias.
@donald33h2 жыл бұрын
Why do people think that high flow is better ? In a time where gas is $5 a gallon … I come on here looking to find injectors to try to get 30 mpg in a Silverado . I once bought remand injectors for an old mustang that had 200k on it and cut fuel mileage in half , I’m looking to find some injectors that the engine just needs to smell the gas to run .. seen a video guy adapted a lawnmower carb on a 289 v8 and was getting 40 mpg
@cris_m82 жыл бұрын
If you want 30 mpg from your Silverado then drive at 45 mph everywhere and accelerate slowly and avoid using the brake pedal. Smaller injectors will damage your engine.
@StovallsGarage4 жыл бұрын
This was pretty cool, There are lot's of things I will save money on... injectors is not one if them...I'm not gonna spend ID money but I will buy genuine.
@YostBuilt4 жыл бұрын
agreeed
@mechanicforlife94683 ай бұрын
Great job! Thank you.
@neodiy2 жыл бұрын
By the looks of the spray patterns there are serious tiny defects in the hole of the chinese injectors ...due to imperfections when making the holes without precision machine. Why bosch is selling that price probably due to the brand, QC, and precision machine
@thelongranger556 ай бұрын
Great point !
@MisledDan8 ай бұрын
Wish I watched this before wasting money on worthless eBay replacement units. From the first very first start with the no name generic injectors, it ran like utter crap-produced a DTC for a "fuel cut". I went thru so much trouble trying to narrow down the root cause. Fortunately, I held onto the originals and took them to a specialty shop for rebuilding.
@bellasvistas34634 ай бұрын
Would ultrasonic cleaning fix my OEM injectors that are leaking 1995 Ford E-150 351 W
@boostedthirdgenracing3 ай бұрын
how do you know you are getting True Bosch injectors I got mine from big Willy. They’re supposed to be Bosch True Bosch injectors have you tested any big willies injectors?
@dmystify13816 ай бұрын
complete waste of time with the ebay copies,aaand the fact that your cleaning a brand new product.Glad you made this video.
@shawnlibby6752 жыл бұрын
Just seen instead of ID2000 thousands put into a bone stock 2003 GTI 1.8 T ... Car has Is over 220 K mile Car was not took in care of Before the tuner got it... So what did he get for horsepower out of an AWP 1.8 t . jetta motor / golf motor... Only thing done to this bone stock 1.8 t.... A big turbo upgrade and straight through exhaust... So far he has made 566 horsepower And over 500' pounds of torque and hes not done tuning yet...
@nickpinkus34462 жыл бұрын
Stock fuel won’t support those numbers
@MUS1CA-73 ай бұрын
Thank You For the Video Brother
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
Ok, so now I've seen the results. If the injectors were cars. The German car just stomped all over the Chinese car, and did donuts all around it, while the chinese car was up in flames!!! 1000whp vs KABOOM!!! Bond fire anyone??? Pass me the marsh mellows, please.
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@nobodynoone25003 жыл бұрын
Those testers are crap. Thet batch fire the injectors instead of in sequence, messing up the ratio of fuel flow to each one due to pressure fluxuations. Modding it or just using and old hacked ECU is best. Its good for getting you in the ballpark, but dont trust the results unless you do them one at a time in the same position. Good video tho.
@8barbies7793 жыл бұрын
hey nobody, (fkn cracks me up), hey i'm an outfitter in alaska, we've got 4 yamaha f60 4stroke outboard jets that we use in skinny water for kings/silvers. we've got a lot of sand in the river & i've been researching ways to clean my injectors without having to buy 16 every year. i've done the hook a hose, spray some fluid, pulse the injector on a battery and spray & it seems to work pretty good but damn...after watching videos like this, i feel inadequate:) i guess my question is you've piqued my interest in the old ECU thing and i was wondering if you had any videos or links you know of kind of explaining it. now i may be crazy because maybe most of you guys on here are modder & engine builder dudes who need a lot more balance out of their injectors. anyway, your post seemed really smart so you're either 'really smart' or a damn good bullshiter. i hope i get to hear from ya. 8
@runnningonempty3 жыл бұрын
I have 4 sets of 8 lm7 5.3 injectors I could decap. would you want to test them if I send them to you?
@gsonperformance45064 жыл бұрын
I can just tell you are running the wrong fluid in that machine with all that foam. You should really invest the $40 and get the right fluid it will work alot better! I have the same machine
@edgarmanzanares82234 жыл бұрын
What fluid do you recommend?
@gsonperformance45064 жыл бұрын
Edgar Manzanares www.ebay.com/itm/252822440778. There is a link to the stuff I run In My machine!
@edgarmanzanares82234 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@YostBuilt4 жыл бұрын
the foam is from when i mix the cleaner and sea foam and other cleaners together to get a set of gummed up e85 injectors to work right!
@gsonperformance45064 жыл бұрын
Yost Built ah makes sense. I run the calibrated fluid by its self for testing. And run sea foam in the ultra sonic cleaner
@derekbellamy80402 ай бұрын
Is it worth blowing your motor
@juantoolsdowork4214 жыл бұрын
The Chinese one are junk...I would like to see the test on deatschwerks injectors
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
They are junk also. Despite Hondata Recommending them, I have returned my share of deatschwerks injectors enough to never recommend them to any of my customers, friends, or family... Enemies, why not.
@gn5673 Жыл бұрын
WHAT DO YOU CHARGE TO CLEAN 8 LS INJECTORS?
@mariopic3 жыл бұрын
ur testings flawed notice during higher duty tests fuel pressure is low looks like pump in ur testers flow rate is to low try 2 injecters at a time these testers got weak fuel pumps upgraded mode to a 400lph pump works great
@stuartcornall53063 жыл бұрын
Brand new injector stuck open? can anyone say hydraulic lock ? Simply not worth the risk to your engine.
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
yeah ...scary
@blckevo82 жыл бұрын
Question.. when you say real are you referring to a specific name brand such as fic that have already been matched or do you mean just new genuine Bosch injectors
@user-sf5iq2fl1l4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe spend 140$ on 8 chinese injectors and sort the best ones.
@tomharrison67623 жыл бұрын
How reliable would they be.$K just to screw it up.
@mach15532 жыл бұрын
If I'm that hard up I'll rebuild junkyard injectors. Chinese may make some good stuff, but in the automotive field it's a huge gamble - Their bearings are total trash.
@user-ue2ps1kh8hАй бұрын
What about pop pressure how do they compare
@JLMEALER20007 ай бұрын
Where was that Autool machine manufactured?
@TheBrakelyn Жыл бұрын
Hello, where do i buy new genuine BOSCH Injectors for Diesel BMW's?
@DIABLO_4_Tester_Sacramento2 жыл бұрын
I drive stock 2011 chevy camaro SS, could you please advise, are Bosch fuel nozzles preferable than ACDelco?
@tomharrison67622 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@tomharrison67622 жыл бұрын
What do you think,'you get what you pay for'!
@DIABLO_4_Tester_Sacramento2 жыл бұрын
@@tomharrison6762 i think that rockauto shows 44 different brands)
@GordianGarage3 жыл бұрын
So if you have the need for 2200cc injectors that means you must have spent some coin on your motor be it’s 4,6,8 cylinder .why would you skimp out on injectors which will lead to the death of your motor.
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
i seen them on sell for sooo cheap i wanted to see if they were any good
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
Exactly, why would anyone do that. Fuel system/injectors are not to be skimped on, tires maybe. For testing, no problem. And, if someone sends him a set of the injectors he mentioned at the end of the video, then he can test some of those. Otherwise, I would not complain, and let him test what he can afford.
@stevardm26944 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@YostBuilt4 жыл бұрын
thank you
@z31online2 жыл бұрын
Your test is not a good test. These injectors (genuine or knock off) are too large for your injector tester to have 4 hooked up. If you noticed, the 2 center cylinders get the most fluid amounts because they are closest to the pump. I have the same tester as yours and performed the same tests with the same results for both knock offs and genuine. The fluid pump in your test cannot handle that large of a fuel injector size. You need to test one injector at a time for a valid test. Do this by unplugging all the electrical connectors and plug in one at a time. Also, understand what the functions do for each setting. It's very obvious you are just pressing buttons and spitballing what you think. You clearly don't know what you're doing.
@802Garage4 ай бұрын
Huh, that's a good point didn't think of that. Have you by chance done a similar comparison with your methods?
@robertbairt9283 жыл бұрын
Why would you run them when they are to long/tall, they don't fit🧐
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
There is equivalent sized long/tall genuine Bosch. The test results is still the same.
@orlyrx7CanutoUltra73 жыл бұрын
Like the info dem, thanks.
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
Dm me
@djp1lly830 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I knew these china-shipped injector, supposedly the same brand as what i need, were fake! They sell 4 of them for less than the price of 1 genuine supplied one! So glad i found this video, fake boxes and labels, typical of CHY-NAH! :)
@remotaurog8 ай бұрын
Why not just test them with a pico scope?
@roccom59883 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me what bosh or ford 4 hole injectors fits for my jeep wrangler yj 2.5 -4 cilinder -1991. All info is welcome. Greetings from Belgium.
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
No sir ..i would not know what injectors fit ur jeep sorry
@precisiont5188 Жыл бұрын
How much does that machine cost?
@TEAMPHY6 Жыл бұрын
Around 500-600 on amazon/aliexpress
@stevenbelue54962 жыл бұрын
These fuel injector testers are about the same quality as the cheap injectors they test. Fuel pressure is erratic, fuel rail has no loop, most fuel pumps are not adequate. Most are cheap China made and if your gonna test for quality get a good quality tester not a 300 dollar unit off e3ay, but I will say there is good and bad with Chinese made stuff just like everything else. Just about everything we have here is made in China and a lot of it is good quality but they don't have the quality control to cut out the junk either so there's good and bad and it reflects in the price. You have to pay for quality no matter where it's made.
@adamserafini69459 ай бұрын
No Maybe in your world .Everything is not made in China. China makes copy's and always has .Junk copy parts .Some dangerous .What happen when you lift restrictions! Japanese parts are well made if your speaking import or global sell outs .Buy American !
@E5mma_combat2 жыл бұрын
Don't ever buy cheap China injectors off Amazon or Ebay ETC the safest bet though at times a expensive one is to purchase them from your vehicles manufacturer,Ebay/Amazon fuel injector are made in China and these sellers buy them at wholesale price dirt cheap in bulk so your 60-80 injector set actual price probably 2 or 4 bucks each per wholesale,So no quality control no OEM specification test nothing,I learned the hard way trust me lol
@toddrhine76482 жыл бұрын
Hey Melvin, have you found any other reputable places online for True injectors? Jeep does not carry mine 93' GC I6 4.0
@mardighakimian Жыл бұрын
my man were can i buy injectors for a suzuki jimny 660cc?
@DZ1105 ай бұрын
conclusion: buy genuine parts
@DanCBoyle3 жыл бұрын
Little late to the punch here, but at the end you mentioned doing a broader test; is that something you have done yet?
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
Not yet ..ive been focused on getting cars together and dyno tuning
@randomlife7182 жыл бұрын
Ha, read that as broadcast test. Wondering if he was going to see how they dispersed across the yard... Lol
@csgperformance3 жыл бұрын
Why the machine cant Kero 3bar Constant?
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
I had to mod it ...and later the pump needed swapped out
@H4rriz3 жыл бұрын
@@YostBuilt tell me more please, i want to buy the same tester :)
@beachboardfan95442 жыл бұрын
Kinda test fluid foams like that?
@precisiont5188 Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, the money sign comes before the number. Like this. $450
@cadplast24803 жыл бұрын
Are the 2200cc injectors stainless inside?
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
They say yes on the ebay ad
@2011trdyota4 жыл бұрын
Almost did the same comparison
@Sergio78753 жыл бұрын
Amigo, good video 👍 But I advise you to ditch this test bench. It’s ok for occasional use in the garage. But not for real serious work like you do.
@lowkeylee13943 жыл бұрын
For the money, you can't really do worse. Going to cost big $ for a professional machine. I am not talking about an Asnu. I do recommend using stoddard solvent ( aka mineral spirits) . The higher quality stuff is close to gasoline in viscosity ( density) and not nearly as flamable. You would have to really try to light off stoddard.
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
I was just showing how bad fake injectors from ebay are !
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dougyeargin58043 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tests show inconsistencies in favor of the chinesium? 20 secs for medium flow genuine bosch and only 10 for the chinesiums? So, at most it's running a risk of a rich condition?
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
yes sir
@tylertruitt3773 жыл бұрын
where'd you get the real ones?
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
my old tunner
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
I would recommend racetronix for real ones, but you can also find the real ones on ebay, you just need to know how to identify the real thing to fake ones. Personally, I bought one real injector from racetronix so that I can compare the real thing to what I buy on ebay. Doesn't match up in quality from a visual inspection, then it's not the real thing. So far, I have not been disappointed with fake being passed off as real... knock on wood.
@lowkeylee13943 жыл бұрын
Looks like fun. have been eyeballing one of these machines for home use. I work alot with fuel injectors in my career. What fluid are you using? I def. Recommend Stoddard solvent, aka, mineral spirits. It is close to gasoline in viscosity ( higher) so dependeing on the injecto design, may flow more or less. Stoddard is flamable, but you almost have to intentionally light it off. Just keep your vapors contained.
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
Its a great tool to have at home...the fluid i use was what company recommend with machine
@DavidJones-wq5fx2 жыл бұрын
Best testing machine brand is ASNU
@_dirtyfab37104 жыл бұрын
We’re the link
@brownwrench3 жыл бұрын
"Unbranded"
@baesex2 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@brownwrench3 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for.
@byronap58142 жыл бұрын
Machine setup, use and test method is completely flawed... do it properly which is 1 at a time on a junk machine like this.
@adamserafini69459 ай бұрын
Better off getting them from the bone yard testing and cleaning them . They are junk. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@CoreMaster1113 жыл бұрын
These fake ones cost almost as much as good quality ones for my car. lmao
@tomharrison6762 Жыл бұрын
You're testing on a 'micky mouse' test bench and testing junk Injectors from China How much is it today for an engine rebuild?I rest my case!
@Turboboob Жыл бұрын
Dude…. You can’t accurately flow test those injectors with that pump in that machine… you have almost zero fuel pressure in a lot of your tests…
@olveramelinda2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist he is the seller 😆 jk
@damnitdang3 жыл бұрын
Injectors are loud lol
@robingroeneveld41693 жыл бұрын
The fluid you use is not what it should be. Way too much foam.....
@tomharrison6762 Жыл бұрын
And no it's not a professional machine, $400 is $ store quality.Spend $8000 on an Asnu test bench to qualify you as a professional!.You are 'shade tree' at best.
@user-sf5iq2fl1l4 жыл бұрын
Why would you cheap out on injectors? 70 vs 450$ Please if 380$ is nothing for u can you make me a donation?
@MrRcarney20103 жыл бұрын
thats easy $70 injectors and lets go lean and melt a piston $380 vs $5k engine rebuild $380 = nothing in the bigger picture
@robertbairt9283 жыл бұрын
We're they $70.00 each or all 4? What happens on a used car lot when the bottom line is Amaz/eBay, by CCP slave labor. Wouldn't trust the copper winding for long🔥Thanks for Trying 🤐
@copperkeyracing61673 жыл бұрын
$70 injectors are for a $700 project car. $450 injectors are for a $4500 project car. Pretty simple. Some might say $4500 injectors for a $45,000 project car... but I wouldn't. You can't get better than the 2200cc Bosch injectors. Get twice the amount of injectors per cylinder, and double the entire fuel system, for twice the power. Still not going to cost you $4500... and that's the entire system... Ok, maybe on a modded Hurican Performante... oh, but, that's not a $45,000 car, now is it.
@MrLukedanger8 ай бұрын
My truck uses DENSO injectors Toyota want 600 a piece not including tax these cheap nock offs are 500 for the set
@andreasanai35423 жыл бұрын
So you used an incorrect setup on a crap testing machine (yes, i have tested It and It Is a crap).....and made a video making statements that have no sense. KZfaq....
@YostBuilt3 жыл бұрын
My machine works great now that i fixed its leaks ...and the point was to show how bad the knock off injectors flow
@tomharrison6762 Жыл бұрын
What we are seeing is Chinese plagiarism in both the test bench as well as the Injectors themselves.Thank you for the waste of time. 'Man up and buy a professional test bench'. The results will be different but still junk Injectors
@tomharrison67622 жыл бұрын
Junk !
@TRAXRIPPER10 ай бұрын
Id say the real problem is they are Chinese knock offs but not really! Hence the package says it was actually manufactured and made in Germany! So it seems to me that the results say more about the current state of "German Engineering" and is on them more then the Chinese! Not at all saying the Chinese aren't responsible for some real crap but when you are crap broke plenty of times the Chinese options have resulted in getting me back on the road cause i didnt give myself false hope and knew what i was getting was what i paid for! The Germans to me should be the ones who take this L on the mr chin! Lol IMO but i dont see where im Wong! Lmao