You Are Fighting The Automatons Wrong Helldivers 2

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Welcome back to Downloadable Content, the channel that shows you how you can survive the Automaton Helldivers apocalypse. Today we are taking a look a tips to help you beat those difficulties 7,8, and 9.
00:43-01:57 Bring Correct Equipment
01:58-03:44 Use The Auto-Cannon
03:45-04:32 Exploit Weaknesses
04:33-05:46 Don't Sleep On Gas
05:57-06:33 Use Stealth and Scout Armor
06:34-07:14 Manage Bot Drops
07:15-08:19 Stop Pulling Aggro Often
08:20-08:40 Dismantle Bots
08:41-09:17 Know When TO Use Laser
09:18-10:00 Stop Wasting Renforcements
10:01-10:41 Coordinate Stratagems
#helldivers #helldivers2 #tierlist #player #tips

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@ChristophelusPulps
@ChristophelusPulps 2 ай бұрын
I prefer fighting bots. No Chargers outrunning and ragdolling me, no Stalkers, and no 10+ swarms of Hunters stunlocking me so that I can't play the game. EDIT: to be clear, I like fighting both, but I personally find bots easier and more fun.
@sugarplum3338
@sugarplum3338 2 ай бұрын
same don't forget bile titans
@Covey7342
@Covey7342 2 ай бұрын
Yeah with bots you actually get a chance to catch your breath, rearm and regroup. With bugs it’s almost constant waves of enemies from the first time you make contact.
@emufarm29
@emufarm29 2 ай бұрын
I pretty much only have done bots the entire time. I played bugs the other day for a bit and didn't even know how to do the fuel extraction mission cause I'd never seen it before.
@ninja55111
@ninja55111 2 ай бұрын
chargers my beloathed, such funny guys, but so deeply frustrating
@Chablar89
@Chablar89 2 ай бұрын
​@Covey7342 for some reason I read that as "make eye contact" and it made the entire situation sound incredibly romantic 😆
@rudesthazard5769
@rudesthazard5769 2 ай бұрын
This guy gets it. People think in a very binary way "I need heavy/I need horde clear" but bots have a glut of medium tier targets. That's why the Autocannon is so great against them.
@TheDownrankTrain
@TheDownrankTrain 2 ай бұрын
Bots have a very different balance. Their medium units are significantly more powerful, but their Elites are less oppressive.
@chrislevack405
@chrislevack405 2 ай бұрын
Autocannon is love... Autocannon is life.
@manboy4720
@manboy4720 2 ай бұрын
autocannon is great for clearing out enemies, but the shield backpack is amazing for survivability. or if there's people on your team who don't have shield backpacks, maybe use the shield generator relay? it's actually really helpful, especially if you're in an area that has very little cover (and using cover is crucial for surviving automatons).
@hawk4192
@hawk4192 2 ай бұрын
While AC is the best, I've been having great success with the Railgun. Might be a fun change of pace for some to try out.
@quigglebert
@quigglebert 2 ай бұрын
MMG is my preferred support, anything it cant kill, I have air superiority
@R0GU351GN4L
@R0GU351GN4L 2 ай бұрын
Stealth exists. The big mistake many players make is they run around getting spotted by everything and shoot every bot on patrol, sneak past them, only engage what you have too, makes missions 10 times easier.
@DeadEyeJedi
@DeadEyeJedi 2 ай бұрын
This. Everyone goes charging in and aggroing bases before having any kind of attack plan, and you end up in utter chaos because of it.
@outlaw0ftorn
@outlaw0ftorn 2 ай бұрын
No lie. I played with a guy yesterday that was just running around wildly and dying because he ran into a patrol.
@wiseferret4745
@wiseferret4745 2 ай бұрын
Looks like there's a bunch of bot sympathizers here.... I'd better report this to the ministry of truth.
@Drudicta
@Drudicta 2 ай бұрын
I have said "DON'T SHOOT." and "DO NOT ENGAGE" so many times over mic, only for them to wait a couple seconds and start firing.
@AsherH2O
@AsherH2O 2 ай бұрын
So many people shoot on sight and then try to kill every single automaton, and instead of dipping out of there they burn all their reinforcements😭
@APEGantz
@APEGantz 2 ай бұрын
"Once there's 10 dropships, 5 Hulks, a Tank, a Laser Turret, Berserkers and Devastators..." You ain't never lied. This is bare minimum on 8 and especially 9 with super uncoordinated teams just running around with their heads cut off.
@Jawsofhana
@Jawsofhana Ай бұрын
stay within 70m of eachother, and things are much calmer.
@MythMakerMusik
@MythMakerMusik 2 ай бұрын
This video should be titled: "Sarah Connor's Training Manual"
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@ThePimpShyGuy
@ThePimpShyGuy 2 ай бұрын
My ONE main problem with HD2 is the timer, I hate the timer because it makes me rush which in turn makes me make mistakes, HD1 didn’t have one but HD2 does and with a bigger map size, still I enjoy the game but the timer makes it less enjoyable. (Sorry for the long bitching about the timer 👍)
@rochlum
@rochlum 2 ай бұрын
Gas strike does corrosive damage over time, commissars can't call a drop while under the DOT (damage over time) of gas strike
@7fatrats
@7fatrats 2 ай бұрын
​HD1 also just fails you if you dont extract, period. You'd gain absolutely nothing if you diddnt extract. Maybe simply ignore extracting unless you need the samples?​ @ThePimpShyGuy
@Ahrone1586
@Ahrone1586 2 ай бұрын
​@@ThePimpShyGuy i think they will implement vehicles in the game, its just a theory, but the maps are big do maybe a motrocycle for two ppl are they key. The timer would have less importance if you travel more quick
@dragonstrike406
@dragonstrike406 2 ай бұрын
As a veteran of the Automaton front, you nailed all the tips to the letter. Good job. As for your gas strike tip, that's because the enemy is constantly taking stagger while within the gas and stagger will interrupt the bots calling in bot drops.
@hugosiu656
@hugosiu656 2 ай бұрын
Dunno about that stealth tip, i personally find stealth too tedious and prefer a direct hit and run attack
@aegisghost
@aegisghost 2 ай бұрын
@@hugosiu656both ways are legitimate, as long as you manage to complete the mission and extract.
@Divergent-ym3py
@Divergent-ym3py 2 ай бұрын
@@hugosiu656you just have to be extra strategic with the gorilla warfare. Perfect position to deal with any factories or patrols behind you. Which ones to strike first.
@jaydeleon8094
@jaydeleon8094 2 ай бұрын
@@hugosiu656 whats more tedious, crawling for 30 seconds or a 5 min gunfight in the middle of nowhere?
@Ace-Intervention
@Ace-Intervention 2 ай бұрын
@@hugosiu656 a direct fight is basically a hit and run tactic, go there do massive damage and disengage
@makebritaingreatagain2613
@makebritaingreatagain2613 2 ай бұрын
Gear: - 'R-63 Diligence' Marksman Rifle - Light armour with Scout passive - Impact grenade - Autocannon (Available @ lvl 10) - Orbital Gas Strike ('Bridge' ability) - Orbital Lazer (Only for objectives, Available @ lvl 15) Strat: - Be a sneaky boi - Ping enemies (Tap 'Q') - Try not to call reinforcements into a fustercluck - Let teammates know when you are about to use an Orbital Lazer
@RonnieMyers777
@RonnieMyers777 Ай бұрын
Scouting & tagging enemies 🙏 my man I run into so many tweaker crashdummies
@invictusaeternum
@invictusaeternum Ай бұрын
@@RonnieMyers777 I see we've met
@CrimsonTears415
@CrimsonTears415 Ай бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes....wait....
@KudaBear-jy1zl
@KudaBear-jy1zl Ай бұрын
Almost right. No impact grenades. Smoke grenades. No laser. Nuke and Railgun.
@lachsthesalmon1441
@lachsthesalmon1441 Ай бұрын
@@KudaBear-jy1zl you need laser for the bunker mission though otherwise i like bringing Quasar instead of autocannon/railgun since i get an extra spot for a nuke. imo autocannon is better but i just dont like it
@erikbuysbricks1562
@erikbuysbricks1562 Ай бұрын
I’m a solo player who jumped into his first bot match yesterday. The amount of struggle on medium was an eye opener. I usually don’t watch videos for games, but I knew I was doing things wrong, and this really helps.
@Linusidk
@Linusidk Ай бұрын
Same i remember that first malevelon match
@warrengdrum1
@warrengdrum1 11 күн бұрын
Honestly the bot matches are easier to me. You can get overwhelmed, but I think it's easier to have that happen w/ bugs, especially on higher difficulties.
@warrengdrum1
@warrengdrum1 11 күн бұрын
try that new SMG, it staggers, and helps a ton, as a primary.
@zackr8938
@zackr8938 2 ай бұрын
I usually bring in stun grenades so that Hulks become child's play if they get up close.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
That’s a good tip!
@GM-qi8pw
@GM-qi8pw 2 ай бұрын
they work well on tanks as well?
@zackr8938
@zackr8938 2 ай бұрын
@@GM-qi8pw I don't think so, at least when I tried last night.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
That’s cool also!
@Sygless
@Sygless 2 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea gonna have to try it out
@Daniel.Belas1
@Daniel.Belas1 2 ай бұрын
everyone came for the Starship Trooper fight, but the Terminator Salvation fight is kicking thier ass
@yurifairy2969
@yurifairy2969 2 ай бұрын
bugs are starship troopers, bots are terminator, squids are war of the worlds
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 ай бұрын
@@yurifairy2969 And while everyone's eying down south with suspicion, I'm glancing up north wondering what's gonna come that way.
@o0oWMDo0o
@o0oWMDo0o 2 ай бұрын
I think it should be a human rebellian, maybe colonies that have turned on super earth (helping/allying with bugs,bots or the illuminate) and need to be crushed/liberated...​@gratuitouslurking8610
@o0oWMDo0o
@o0oWMDo0o 2 ай бұрын
4 front war FTW....
@_Crystalmeth
@_Crystalmeth 2 ай бұрын
@@o0oWMDo0o4???
@tagguh1
@tagguh1 2 ай бұрын
Autocannon is a 100% must. Expendable Anti-Tank is a great addition for tanks/drop ships/ any heavier enemy. Pop and swap as needed.
@brilobox2
@brilobox2 2 ай бұрын
Autocannon, Grenade Launcher, Anti Materiel Rifle, Machine Gun, Quasar, Arc Thrower, all incredible.
@Th3BadThing
@Th3BadThing 2 ай бұрын
Expendable has become my favorite support, especially when facing Autos, purely because it's a breeze to destroy ships and Hulks, Tanks / Base Turrets, plus such a short CD so if you want to wage war, you can drop it multiple times during engagements usually.
@sgtrpcommand3778
@sgtrpcommand3778 2 ай бұрын
This is brilliant. Thank you. So many people say that the bots are harder… well, they are if you’re not changing your strategy to fight them. Even without the auto cannon, just changing how you play to be a bit more stealthy makes a world of difference. As for the gas strike at 5:30, it might be that the fact it does DoT stops them calling it in. If you wound a bot about to call in a drop, it’ll interrupt them as well, so I think (haven’t proven though) that any damage will interrupt it.
@Marlax-101
@Marlax-101 Ай бұрын
i dont really think bots require any strategy if your team isnt trying to force an objective for 15 minutes. The bugs you have to have waveclear, rockets, ect and you will be fighting. bots you can run full air strikes, or just snipe, you can fight face to face or just run quick. the number of missions i have seen with people just running mock 10 air strike a building and run off leaving others behind to get mulled by hulks is numerous. you could even have 2 people running 380 and orbital and pritty much kill every base on the map with them alone.
@hilkmeister1382
@hilkmeister1382 2 ай бұрын
As a lvl 50 who played a lot of bot missions here are some other tips for enemies Scout Striders - legs are weak to grenades and can be killed through the face plate with the shocker energy rifle Berserkers - Unarmored chaff designed to flush you from cover. Deal with them before they can flush you out Devastators - Shoot them in their skull face or waist. Both areas are unarmored MG - shoot of the gun arm or their backpack if you get behind them. Rocket - Shoot of the missile racks Hulk - The glowing red eye is a weak spot that can be shot out by an AA rifle or other such high-pen weapons, and if you can’t hit it then stun nades disable them long enough to get behind them. Additionally, you can shoot off the arms to make them no longer a threat. Tanks - Slow rotation speed makes for an easy kill with impact nades which can kill if you hit the glowing grill with them (takes 2 I believe) Shredder Tanks - Turret is less armored than the tank so just hit the turret with impacts until it explodes. Cannon Turret - PING IT FOR YOUR TEAM TO PREVENT SNIPES Grunts - All little guys can call in bot drops, not just commissars. Also armor with the explosive resistance is good if you do not wish to bring scout armor.
@GhostlyGhille
@GhostlyGhille 2 ай бұрын
Impact nades only take two hits on the turret the splash damage is enough to destroy from any angle.
@hilkmeister1382
@hilkmeister1382 2 ай бұрын
@GhostlyGhille I find that it is only true for shredders, but I can go retest it.
@GhostlyGhille
@GhostlyGhille 2 ай бұрын
@hilkmeister1382 the shredders actually seem to have a more protected turret
@hilkmeister1382
@hilkmeister1382 2 ай бұрын
@@GhostlyGhille Not in my testing, I could get kills just by hitting the plates of the turret with impacts.
@aleksiheija8170
@aleksiheija8170 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. Exterminator armor is Goated against bots
@bastetthecatgod
@bastetthecatgod 2 ай бұрын
As a heads up, you can call in extraction and leave the area once the ship says its landing. If theres nobody in the zone before it lands itll float above the zone and support you across the map long range until the mission timer ends, then itll do the 20 second countdown
@oohsusieq206
@oohsusieq206 2 ай бұрын
I love doing this and wish more people knew about this strategy. Just because you call it doesn't mean you have to immediately board it.
@Magnusfication
@Magnusfication Ай бұрын
I thiught it left if you exit the landing zone. Or do you have to wait for it to actually land before leaving. Wont that start the extraction timer and get everyone a failed to extract mission ending?
@oohsusieq206
@oohsusieq206 Ай бұрын
Just have to call it, wait for it to land, and then it will wait there. It won’t start the departure timer until either you board it or the mission timer expires.
@Magnusfication
@Magnusfication Ай бұрын
@@oohsusieq206 awesome thanks, imma try this out
@comradekenobi8146
@comradekenobi8146 Ай бұрын
@@Magnusfication IIRC The extraction timer only starts if: (1) Somebody's already boarded the shuttle, or (2) the destroyer you're operating out of has already left low orbit. You can theoretically land the pelican and have it just wait there the entire mission, as long as at least 1 Helldiver is nearby.
@Marcus-pt1je
@Marcus-pt1je 2 ай бұрын
I regularly solo helldives against bots. Other great equipment is the Anti material rifle+plasma scorcher. The scorcher is super effective against everything smaller than tanks and hulks, and the AMR will kill anything (including hulks) with 2 headshots. The railgun is also very effective against everything when in unsafe mode. I often use the shield generator as well, being able to absorb some rockets or a mortar round, and being able to pop out of cover for a moment can really be a game changer.
@ChristianCabralGDL
@ChristianCabralGDL Ай бұрын
Very good tips my man, I always run with the autocannon and light armor and clear objectives and jam right away with the bots never having been the wiser. Also the fact that you mention that we don't always have to engage bots is something that many newer players will find very valuable as I've been in runs that have ended because some rando decides to draw aggro unnecessarily lol
@aaronmccarty1390
@aaronmccarty1390 2 ай бұрын
Stealth two man ops on bots when shits clicking with your teammate makes you feel like a bad mfer. 😂
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Hell yea
@beardedzeus1337
@beardedzeus1337 2 ай бұрын
Did this last night with my step brother we were playing like MGS and we were just casually strolling through the mission on 8.
@hammerfist8763
@hammerfist8763 2 ай бұрын
Yea, I'm using the stealth armor and trying to get that style down. Any suggestions welcome.
@dozerroman4325
@dozerroman4325 2 ай бұрын
@@hammerfist8763 Slow is smooth, smooth is fast
@hammerfist8763
@hammerfist8763 2 ай бұрын
@@dozerroman4325 On one of my deployments I was assigned to a MOUT unit and that was our 1SG's favorite phrase. But yea, so true in so many situations.
@comradeanthony4120
@comradeanthony4120 2 ай бұрын
I would STRONGLY suggest doing EVERY side objective before starting the main objective. Other people have tested and shown that there appears to be a map wide "heat" where more scouts show up and more bots start showing up. One of the things that turns this heat level way up is completing the main objective. So clear out those bases, finish those side objectives, gather your samples and THEN finish the mission
@LukasKolcRacing86
@LukasKolcRacing86 2 ай бұрын
clearing bases raises up the heat as well, but it has lower threshold then doing main objective and extracting.
@comradeanthony4120
@comradeanthony4120 2 ай бұрын
@LukasKolcRacing86 exactly so like you're going to raise that heat level regardless, but no need to increase it that much so early on in the mission
@watchonjar
@watchonjar 2 ай бұрын
Also *stop getting into drawn out fights when you dont have to* idk how many times ive seen a run go south becuase people hunker down and try to fight the bots like the nids becuase they that they can win and all that ends up happening is a bunch of lost lives and samples. If you dont an objective its best to just run in most cases as the bots that are hard to kill are super slow and the ones that are hard to get away from are easy to kill on the run.
@MsBastard91
@MsBastard91 2 ай бұрын
@@LukasKolcRacing86and clearing bases is where you need to fight and make a lota noise. It’s easy when you do it first, but right after completing objectives it’s become way harder. Patrols coming from everywhere, bulks in reinforcements, bots keeps sending a flairs much often.
@comradeanthony4120
@comradeanthony4120 2 ай бұрын
@LukasKolcRacing86 I have a suspicion about something, but I haven't tried nor do I know how to try to test it. From what I understand when you raise the heat level up scout units will head towards the direction you were at when their spawn was triggered. So say you took out a base and triggered a scout spawn, they will head for that base. What I SUSPECT, is when you finish the last part of a main objective those scouts head for the extraction instead. I dont know how many times I've finished the main mission, just to show up at an extraction point and notice like 2 scout groups waiting for me with another on the way.
@averagemobileplayergfs7383
@averagemobileplayergfs7383 2 ай бұрын
When I fight against them in co-op, I play as the support player. I use both the mortals! I use the EMP one and the artillery one. Not at the same time though! I only use one at a time, so o can also have one up. Just for those last min moments. I only use both of them whenever we’re about to get picked up. I also use the rocket backpack as my “support” weapon. Then the auto-cannon because someone is typically using it. I use that rocket pack to take down big enemies and the drop ships on the spot. It really helps us reduce engaging with them. That saves us *SOOO* much time! We do all the side objectives and blow up all their bases as well to get the maximum rewards. My last thing I use is the orbit strike. I only use it for tanks and to take out their bases. I rarely use it out of that.
@Cyceryx
@Cyceryx 2 ай бұрын
i recommend the orbital laser, it can solo entire heavy outposts + the cannon turrets + the hulks + the tanks within :3
@teneclarusslavicus5390
@teneclarusslavicus5390 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand people who don't like fighting bots. This experience is something special. It immerses you in this "robo Vietnam" vibe, where you constantly on alert in case somebody jumps out of behinds of trees or stones. And when they deploy artillery or tanks or both... things become full of fun. It's really active and challenging. I don't even know how to explain, but I personally fight automatons only
@Jawsofhana
@Jawsofhana Ай бұрын
Better than any Terminator game.
@Koranthus
@Koranthus Ай бұрын
It's the cheap shots, its not a skill issue or a tactics issue, its the fact that up until the last patch, you get 1-shot by rockets randomly due to the damage calculation and headshots ignoring armor. People don't like RNG deaths in a game about tactics, if at any point you can be 1 shot because you get hit from one of the thousands of projectiles coming your way, that immediately robs you of armor choice or tactical viability because the only tactic is hide behind a rock and chuck strategems over the rock.
@lachsthesalmon1441
@lachsthesalmon1441 Ай бұрын
@@Koranthus you still get 1 shot sometimes, you just have to avoid going into a bullet hell situation
@kellcifur6985
@kellcifur6985 2 ай бұрын
The “not giving all of your lives at the start of the first fight” is the best tip man. Too many people just get sucked into the fight and lose half their lives on the first skirmish
@RonnieMyers777
@RonnieMyers777 Ай бұрын
Dive into a swarm of enemies without time to call down heavy weapons, get rekt, run around like headless chickens, waste lives. 😅😅😅
@Grubilman
@Grubilman 2 ай бұрын
Smoke strategems are totally slept on. I bring Eagle Smoke on every single bot mission. Assaulting a bot position? Smoke it, and rush through it. It reduces the enemy accuracy, or completely disrupts their line of sight. Retreating in an open area? Smoke. Need to flank a tank / tower? Smoke. Teammate stuck behind a small rock and getting shredded? Smoke. Just let your teammates know it's smoke, or they'll run away from the red beacon right into enemy fire. lol
@Starshina200
@Starshina200 2 ай бұрын
I tried playing with Eagle Smoke, but didn't find it useful. 110mm rocket blocks or a bomb strike are much more useful. But I already liked the smoke grenade, they perform the same tasks and do not occupy the stratogem slot
@HolysMoly
@HolysMoly 2 ай бұрын
DUDE FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE USES THEIR BRAIN, SMOKES ARE INSANELY GOOD ON BOTS. Hidden Creek knowledge people dont know unless they use smokes all the time: Patrols HAVE to have LINE OF SIGHT to you in order to call in a dropship. Smoke breaks line of sight. You can still see the clankers red eyes through smoke, or through 3rd person when u drop it on yourself You can throw them on your teammates doing objectives to make them survive the NASTIEST helldive bots-gone wrong scenario because of the way bot aiming works rn.use them on terminals when shit goes wrong, or when you know artillery or mortars can kill you while on the terminal. Under dropships as they come in, if you mess up stealth. IF you do it right, the bots drop into the smoke and stand still without detecting you EVEN AFTER THE SMOKE CLEARS. from what we could find out on the creek they stay like that forever lol On the dropship during elimination missions to actually make it out on helldive when the clankers bring 90 million elites, like on elim missions Under yourself when on an HMG turret, but with smoke GRENADES not orbital. Its 3rd person anyways and you can see the red of clankers weak spots through the smoke while they miss EVERY shot Under yourself when on THEIR stationary turrets. You will not be targeted. Under yourself (smoke GRENADES r better for the initial spawn, smoke orbital is better if you drop a teammate onto an objective FULL of bots to use the hellpod) after hotdropping onto bot factories to run away or call another strategem Under yourself on helldive elimination missions where you sit and wait for enough elites to spawn in, and accumulate on one side in order to chuck a 380 barrage that completes the mission on its own due to the amount of elites/hulks that spawn On top of a tank while you are t-posing to assert dominance On top of tanks when you have NO other strategems, and no way to kill them, and HAVE TO push through an area where it sees you and absolutely WILL shoot at you if you peek it
@elijahyun8128
@elijahyun8128 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. Just did my first helldive with some friends and just as we were about to be spotted by a hulk and devastator patrol, one of them called for a smoke screen and we were able to crawl out way out undetected.
@mattocardo1002
@mattocardo1002 2 ай бұрын
Na my buddy used it and we got shot soo often right through the smoke that was unreal. I would rather be able to shoot back.
@fluxuous6907
@fluxuous6907 2 ай бұрын
​@@mattocardo1002I mean you can shoot back, the smoke isn't a wall, they're firing blind too, that's why their accuracy is so shit through smoke.
@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808
@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808 2 ай бұрын
Something I would add is to _stick together!_ The fact is, there's an exponential enemy growth mechanic in the game. The more enemies you kill, the more will spawn next wave, so a group of 3 killing enemies will just cause more to surround the guy who is going lone wolf on the other side of the map. 4 of us can take 200 of them easily, but it's harder for 1 of us to take 50 of them.
@stevengreen11
@stevengreen11 2 ай бұрын
So many people HATE the diligence but it's so good and is also my primary. Also, dope soundtrack from HD1 in the background. Love it.
@joea12
@joea12 2 ай бұрын
Ran the Battle Master heavy armor with the "Fortified" passive. Was able to brush off shots from rocket raiders and even survived a shot from a tank. Once their ability to one-shot you is removed, surviving bots becomes much easier with decent strategems and proper positioning.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Oh that’s awesome!
@GIAP11977
@GIAP11977 2 ай бұрын
So best strategy is either light armor or superheavy armor
@FulminicMantra
@FulminicMantra 2 ай бұрын
@@GIAP11977 There are light, medium and heavy versions of the explosive resistance. It really does make a world of difference when all that stuff doesn't one shot you anymore. Combined with the personal shield and I'm even able to go no deaths sometimes. The AMR is sort of ridiculously good vs bots as you can essentially 1-2 shot any unit, 3 shot tank battery. Use strats for bases and objectives only. Of course that's only with a 5% chance of no fog and being able to see more than 20m.
@Andyisgodcky
@Andyisgodcky 2 ай бұрын
Brasch Tactics is entirely correct: Cover, Courage, and more Cover. Get them. They can't shoot what they can't see, they can't hit what they don't have LoS on. Duck back, pop out, pop off a shot or two, get back behind cover. Heal if you have to. I also recommend NOT bringing shield backpack because it teaches bad habits. Its a great safety net, which means you'll do stuff that requires that safety net more, then get screwed when you don't have one due to bad habits.
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 2 ай бұрын
And thanks to the way LoSing bots works, you can duck behind one piece of cover then circle back around to a second piece they aren't shooting at to attack them both by surprise and with some extra cover for round 2.
@corruptedvessel9683
@corruptedvessel9683 2 ай бұрын
Rocket Raider/Devastator would like to know your location.
@corruptedvessel9683
@corruptedvessel9683 2 ай бұрын
@@Keyce0013 Unfortunately, no. If that was the case, Spotter Towers would not be able to keep the light on me when I'm moving behind cover.
@Keyce0013
@Keyce0013 2 ай бұрын
@@corruptedvessel9683 Spotter towers are weird. I've been "found" and then duck behind a rock and hunker down for a while, and it's eventually passed me over. Other times I've been spotted even though I'm tucked under the cliffs immediately below the base it stands on, out of its LoS. Best I can say is to either hide behind thick cover (like a rock or a hill) and wait it out, or just escape beyond its ability to see you. If it starts to call reinforcements down you'll probably be better off running away anyways.
@josephemeraldt3350
@josephemeraldt3350 2 ай бұрын
Bro they shoot through cover all the time. I’ve seen rockets come through solid rock and hit me in the face
@WollknaeuelSockenbart666
@WollknaeuelSockenbart666 Ай бұрын
Great video! I agree that fighting the Automatons in Helldivers 2 can be incredibly frustrating. They feel way overpowered, with endless reinforcement waves coming at you relentlessly. And the weapons available don't seem potent enough to really counter them effectively. But the worst part is that engaging the Automatons doesn't allow you to experiment with fun metas and unique strategies like you can when fighting the Bug enemies. Against the Automatons, you're kind of forced into a specific playstyle that isn't as enjoyable. The Bugs at least let you mess around and try crazy combos just for the fun of it. Hopefully the developers will rebalance the Automaton encounters to be more enjoyable in the future!
@rainthesomber
@rainthesomber 2 ай бұрын
I love fighting the bots and it makes me so happy that you're preaching the same loadout I use, hopefully it encourages people to take advantage of what they need to, to fight the good fight against those bots!
@nocounterplay2966
@nocounterplay2966 2 ай бұрын
With the current influx of players moving from bugs over to Automatons it's really easy to spot players who just have not put the time on this side of the map yet. Played today with a lvl 50 player rocking the guarddog rover backpack, always splitting and engaging with bots 1v1 wondering why they seem to be able to always hit him and win the stat check. As someone who started to play the game with Automatons it was such a culture shock for me to see how agressive and in your face you can play against bugs. Eventually I realised you can even aggro 20 of them and just systematically kite them out with the right gear. This type of thing however would never fly with bots. If you engage too long you get surrounded and die...
@toesniffer9452
@toesniffer9452 Ай бұрын
I’m still an aggressive player on bots but definitely have to do it differently. I run quasar cannon, cluster bomb and orbital laser and shield pack so heavy’s and drop ships are gone pretty fast. Then I rush in and take out the normal troops/ mediums
@Marlax-101
@Marlax-101 Ай бұрын
rovers can work fine verses bots if you are rushing and killing the small targets quickly. the only major issue with bots is the attack aircraft and the hulks and most things on the bots you can just avoid. bugs you cant really avoid and if your in a long engagement you will get overrun with titans. both factions are decently the same but i would say bugs are more challenging. bots are just more frustrating in the sense that you have a hard time fixing things your teammates start. because they will let the bots horde up then keep throwing your respawn in the middle of 4 hulks while they run off. against the bugs someone throws you in the middle of a horde you got a shot to survive for some time. against the bots no matter what you do eventually you will get caught on fire or hit with rockets and rag dolled. that being said with the right strategums you can avoid a lot of the bots engagement and run off but that doesnt work with hulks ect if they are on top of you unless you have the EMS. which sadly no one uses but is probably one of the best strikes for bots.
@mylesdrake2949
@mylesdrake2949 2 ай бұрын
I'm a anti-mat rifle kind of guy. The only time I take the auto cannon is during defense missions. Gas and smoke breaks line of sight and if enemies don't have line of sight they don't call reinforcements.(Why I use the anti-mat) Bots hear you nids smell you, it's how the devs make sure you don't stay safe. Also another friendly tip, smoke screens from the eagle can destroy fabricators while also providing the ability to run in and grenade the rest before the bots can respond effectively. As for rocket devastators which kill more helldivers than anything else, their pods don't have much armor, so stay at far range behind cover and shoot them out and then go for the head. Mavelon Creek vet here, hopefully this stuff helps as well.
@double-n-glenn
@double-n-glenn Ай бұрын
Yup! AM one shots everything but hulks (2 shots to eye), tanks and turrets. You can shoot from so far away that the bot's can't triangulate your position until you take multiple shots. Downside of AM is that it can't help you destroy fabricators, but it does free up a backpack slot. The Senator revolver also 1-shots devastators if you aim for the face. Two other faves are EAT-17 for its fast recharge and the EMG Emplacement because it shreds and you can keep calling them in across the map (drop near objectives that you want to come back to later and they will stay there).
@DisasterEXE
@DisasterEXE Ай бұрын
Thank you for spreading democracy and battle tactics
@KudaBear-jy1zl
@KudaBear-jy1zl Ай бұрын
Best weapon for bots, hands down.
@joshuazarate9780
@joshuazarate9780 Ай бұрын
As an autocannon guy, I regularly see you guys on the same vantage points. Thank you for spreading democracy. Cheers to Liberty!
@ozcalavera1667
@ozcalavera1667 Ай бұрын
we wont forget what you did there
@krlst.5977
@krlst.5977 2 ай бұрын
I joined two days ago and already doing my part :) And after a few missions on bugs i went to fight against automatons because it' more challenging for me and thus more fun. Yesterday it was my final 2 in the Draupnir's liberation progress bar :) That was cool to see after your mission that the planet is FREE now and bots got some what they deserve. Thanks for the tips, now i am going to get this auto-cannon too.
@OliTaylor
@OliTaylor 26 күн бұрын
Try the AMR too if you haven’t already mate. Absolutely slaps and can two tap hulks.
@belinskiparadox7687
@belinskiparadox7687 2 ай бұрын
A lot of people try to fight the bots with the same stuff they use to fight the bugs. Some strats and weapons are just better against bots than bugs and vice versa
@zacfor4454
@zacfor4454 2 ай бұрын
I think a big problem is some people over value the shield backpack then come over to bots and die to 4 rockets hitting them in the face and say it's unfair. That backpack really seems like a cruch for not having good positioning and game sense. At least in the pubs games I've played
@gtaveteran
@gtaveteran 2 ай бұрын
i have pretty much just played against the bugs since getting this game but tonight i’m going to do my part in helping with the bots for the major order… going to have to trial some different load outs to find what is best for my ( lack there of ) play style lol…. People are going to be angry with me lol
@juliustaylor9920
@juliustaylor9920 2 ай бұрын
​@@gtaveteran😂😂😂
@LeonDegrelle14
@LeonDegrelle14 2 ай бұрын
@@zacfor4454yeah its a super selfish strata that adds zero value to the team
@orionstokesweiss2344
@orionstokesweiss2344 2 ай бұрын
​@@LeonDegrelle14You sound like a reinforcement guzzler who drains team resources alone lol. Defensive stratagems that stop players from dying have high value, and there is a reason most players use them.
@ShinobiNeon
@ShinobiNeon Ай бұрын
I just got the Combat Technician armor last night, and it's really nice. It's medium armor so you can still take a hit or two, but has the Scout ability which makes you harder to spot, and shows enemies on the map wherever you drop a pin, which is really nice for keeping track of patrols or scouting your next objective. I would highly recommend that armor set. You can get it in the normal "Mobilize" battle pass.
@MilliardoVT
@MilliardoVT Ай бұрын
Solid advice. I like to run solo dives against the bots and the autocannon has been a mainstay. For those who haven’t unlocked the Diligence, the Punisher does good work against bots; pulling off box drills against closing berserker pairs feels super cool. I’ve been running the EMS Mortar but I’m going to try swapping it for the Gas Strike next dive.
@jdp3578
@jdp3578 2 ай бұрын
Actually dove in to my first fights against the bots. Teamed up with some guys that told me about some of these tricks. I decided to keep my distance with the anti-mat rifle, while my teammates had autocannons, and the new weapons that are tailored to fight bots. Also smoke screen let us just fade away when things got bad.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
The smoke is ok, but honestly the gas should replace it. The smoke does block their vision somewhat, but also yours! The means you can accidentally run into another fight!
@jdp3578
@jdp3578 2 ай бұрын
@@DownloadableContent yeah gas seems like a good alternative. I just used the smoke to get away from a fight when we got overwhelmed.
@MrAsh1100
@MrAsh1100 2 ай бұрын
@@DownloadableContent The smoke blocks your sight but doesn't block your map pings. No really, that radar can detect anything and everything around you. One thing I always noticed is that people don't check their radar. I always do at intervals during a fight to know where am I and where the enemies are. Smoke is a godsend for disengagements.
@gabzsy4924
@gabzsy4924 2 ай бұрын
​​@@DownloadableContent the thing is, smoke is great to dismember a fight. The melee units will rush forwards and are going to be easy picks while you can take a break from the enourmous amounts of rockets and bullets. Once you've dealt with half of them, the other half becomes much easier. Also, generally you want to use it to disengage, not engage. So not being able to shoot back is not really an issue and if you can retreat and break line of sight, you basically won that encounter and saved a bunch of resources too.
@anom2619
@anom2619 2 ай бұрын
I bring Orbital Lasers to melt the heavy outposts, Orbital Railcannon to quickly dispose of Hulks/Annihilators, then EMS Mortar and Shieldgen pack to shield me and make taking out the medium/light outposts a lot easier. I'm using the Blitzer shotgun and the Revolver along with Incendiary grenades and I'm able with this setup to clear level 7 bot missions with relative ease and I'm having a lot of fun on Vandalon IV right now. The snow makes it easier to spot Automatons from greater distances.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Yes the orbital laser will make quick work of major bases and objectives
@Trepanation21
@Trepanation21 2 ай бұрын
Shoutout Blitzer! It's one of my preferred primary weapons as it occupies a distinct niche of infinite ammo + stunlocking and armor/limb breaking.
@PotatoWhyKid
@PotatoWhyKid 2 ай бұрын
Great video and visual of your methodology. Subbed
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@danielhuebner5597
@danielhuebner5597 Ай бұрын
Thx for all the tips. Very nice
@whisper4714
@whisper4714 2 ай бұрын
The orbital gas strike canister can destroy fabricators. Perfect for the light outposts which only have one fabricator and a few guards. Drop it right on the fabricator, the canister destroys it, and then the gas mops up the bots, leaving it free for you to go loot. The one minute cooldown on the gas strike means you can do this repeatedly as much as you like. Additionally, instead of lasers, I prefer the 380MM HE orbital barrage. I use it on any primaries or heavy outposts and it's a guaranteed clear. Ever since they tightened the spread it works wonders, and you can use it more liberally than the laser. Just get a running start before throwing it so that it lands right in the center of the objective/heavy outpost.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
I still have had zero luck destroying fabs with the gas 😅
@whisper4714
@whisper4714 2 ай бұрын
@@DownloadableContent Orbital scatter modifier will make it impossible to actually hit it. Otherwise, it just takes some practice learning how far you can throw!
@cgmaster2
@cgmaster2 2 ай бұрын
Throw it so it lands right beside it or throw the stratagem inside a vent. Their also great for throwing ontop of bot drops as it'll wipe the smaller guys and weaken the bigger ones.
@LeonDegrelle14
@LeonDegrelle14 2 ай бұрын
Almost every single time i play with people who use the barrages(god forbid more than one dude has em) it just turns the game into a team kill simulator. Then im fighting back the schizoid sperg rage for the rest of the round to attempt to keep it civil and keep the ball rolling lmao.
@Blackthorn869
@Blackthorn869 2 ай бұрын
Or you could run the armor that gives an extra 30% throw distance. I've played with just about every set but I always find myself going back to that extra throw distance.
@roam3d151
@roam3d151 2 ай бұрын
I found that crouching is such a key tool for not getting detected whatsoever and get hit way less. Smoke stratagems are even more important when running as a full team. Good smokes saved so much time as in not engaging and maneuvering around big targets/assets. I rather prefer a Punisher, or Slugger once unlocked, it really gets rid anything that gets too close for comfort in 1-3 shots.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 2 ай бұрын
When running bots I almost always run Eagle Smoke. A line of smoke can easily halt bot AI's shooting and force them to close in, leaving them more susceptible to hard-hitting close-ranged weapons or grenades. Just be careful as smoke can screw with your own turrets.
@Cyceryx
@Cyceryx 2 ай бұрын
i run the diligence and autocannon so i hate it when they get close xD i much prefer to fight them at longer ranges
@JBBrickman
@JBBrickman Ай бұрын
Really interesting to hear people prefer the bugs. I got the game about three days ago and my first 10 hours were probably spent fighting the bots, so then when I went and fought the bugs, I liked it a lot less. I didn’t think it was all that interesting compared to fighting the bots.
@michaelwestmoreland2530
@michaelwestmoreland2530 Ай бұрын
I'm just glad we have more than one enemy type, and totally different yet equally satisfying combat and experiences with them.
@florentdonnet7825
@florentdonnet7825 2 ай бұрын
I've been running 110 and 380mm barrages against bots on difficulty 8, and it's fairly good. Since they do not move that much and that their bases are exposed, it can do some major work in softening or outright destroying entire bases or clear out an accumulation of bots due to a previous mistake. I highly recommend giving it a shot. Plus, loud booms are cool.
@arturogregory1595
@arturogregory1595 2 ай бұрын
My dude, you are in EVERYTHING!!! You saved my Oculus Quest from being forgotten and now with Helldivers 2 content??? You did my day!!!
@PeterPan-vt6sy
@PeterPan-vt6sy 2 ай бұрын
Have you tried legendary tales?
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Happy to be there
@arturogregory1595
@arturogregory1595 2 ай бұрын
​@@PeterPan-vt6synot yet. I play a lot of Blade and Sorcery and The Forest (which, I COMPLETELY RECOMMEND to play with VR.Last time I played The Forest was 2020... But now... And on VR? I'm always scared and powerful while playing jaja
@lthrneck7118
@lthrneck7118 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video and advice. Thank you.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@crenzz8051
@crenzz8051 Ай бұрын
This was a great video! Thanks brother!
@VisualOrchestra
@VisualOrchestra 2 ай бұрын
Termanids have a 'smell' mechanism, while bots have a 'heartbeat detector' mechanism. Both require them to be within a certain range but don't require line of sight.
@beardedzeus1337
@beardedzeus1337 2 ай бұрын
If crouched/prone with the 2 light armors that reduce detection(though prone with any armor will allow you to prone up behind any bot) you can get right up beside a bot from behind or even get within 10 meters of a bot looking right at you.
@VisualOrchestra
@VisualOrchestra 2 ай бұрын
@beardedzeus1337 Just like not all Termanids can smell, not all bots have the heartbeat detector. This is similar to not all enemies being able to call breeches or bot drops.
@siveonfarcloud4190
@siveonfarcloud4190 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a bunch of BS. They just spawn nearby and come to your general location.
@theendofdays5311
@theendofdays5311 2 ай бұрын
AP sensor ye
@PerfectDeath4
@PerfectDeath4 2 ай бұрын
I feel like it could be something unique to "patrol" type enemies who spawn 100m away as a patrol that crosses through your area. Those seem to detect you at 10m even through walls. Meanwhile static enemies or just the regular ones roaming around an objective seem like you can stealth melee them.
@FersPlaysGames
@FersPlaysGames 2 ай бұрын
The gas strike damages robots because its caustic. It literally melts them.
@Br0ck3n
@Br0ck3n 2 ай бұрын
So it's acidic gas? That's definitely an interesting stratagem.
@AlluringSpy
@AlluringSpy 2 ай бұрын
cool I never used it thinking the bots were immune to it
@genericnamehere7602
@genericnamehere7602 2 ай бұрын
​@@Br0ck3nYou can even give it a cool yet ironic name. Kirchewasser. Holy Water.
@PplCallMeGhost1
@PplCallMeGhost1 2 ай бұрын
​@genericnamehere7602 if it meant to be german then it would be Weihwasser if it wasnt meant to be german just let me know and ill delete the comment ^^
@genericnamehere7602
@genericnamehere7602 2 ай бұрын
@PplCallMeGhost1 It's a rough translation. Kirsche is Cherry, but it can also be construed as "pure" or "holy".
@bretkent2369
@bretkent2369 2 ай бұрын
Pro tip for solo play - drop directly onto a light fabricator. You smash it when landing on the planet, and can stealth/run away sometimes without aggro. I pretty much only play solo against difficulty 7-9 bots. I dont even carry a support weapon, I run a slugger which can one shot snipe devastators from range, and carry airstrike, 500kg, and orbital laser to almost every map. Other slot varies on mission type, though I favor orbital laser strike for turrets or hulks. Guerrilla warfare the entire map, stike with stratagems and run to next spot, weaving to lose aggro behind you. Key is learning how to pace the strats. I joined a random team on ICBM launch mission, broke away and did one of the primary objectives, 3 of the secondary objectives, and cleared all outposts on 3/4 of the map solo without a death in the time it took the 3 man team to secure 2 primaries. Speed is your friend against bots, hit and run. You dont need that autocannon, you just have to stop acting like a sledgehammer against them.
@cakeinparadise
@cakeinparadise 2 ай бұрын
If you want to take out fabricators and turrets at a range easily, I'd recommend one team member bring the spear. It's only useful at the bots, and helps avoid going out of the way for smaller bases and lets you take out the turrets well before they are ever a problem
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Spear is awesome, but it has lock on issues
@ThatOliveMrT
@ThatOliveMrT 2 ай бұрын
No. Spear is F tier till the lock on works. I've been in clear sight of targets and it won't work. It can't even one shot bot drops like EAT-17
@cakeinparadise
@cakeinparadise 2 ай бұрын
@@ThatOliveMrT fair opinion. I find the lock on to work fine for the tasks I use it for, tanks, turrets, and far away factories, but I get the frustration of it not locking on or locking onto the wrong thing
@emufarm29
@emufarm29 2 ай бұрын
​@@ThatOliveMrT I've used the spear a lot and some missions it locks onto everything perfectly and sometimes it just won't lock onto shit the whole time. But I will say it works more often than it doesn't. Spear is good
@az-kalaak6215
@az-kalaak6215 2 ай бұрын
or, since updqte, bring one or two quasar. it one shots dropships, can ricochet into the fabricator, can do heavy damage against pretty much anything and has the courtesy of having infinite ammo. it allows you to still have a backpack (shield / jump pack usually). the spear is awesome against bots, but people tend to forget that spear have a hard time locking in mist conditions. you have to have a clear shot (clear meaning: no mist, no tree, no fence, no ennemy, no smoke). you can wipe out entire bases with it without the automatons even triggering the alarm. but you have to get into correct positionning, check the weather etc... as an example, the spearvon troost is aweful, as this is a planet with a lot of fog. it is incredibly powerful on the creek, as the creek usually don't have fog. also, never waste spear ammo by firing at turrets or ennemy units, your targets should always be fabricators. if you can't lock one, relocate, ask someone to destroy any obstacles you may have (again, quasar,binfinite ammo, you can clear quite easily the obstacles for your spear friend). once you killed every fabicator, drop your spear and go use another stratagem weapon someone'll drop for you as it is now pretty much dead weight.
@averagejoegaming1045
@averagejoegaming1045 2 ай бұрын
Something I noticed you doing consistently that’s dope was breaking LINE OF SIGHT and forcing the bots to funnel into your gas/aoe from auto cannon. That and don’t sleep on your secondaries. Awesome tips bud
@Pettywyze
@Pettywyze 2 ай бұрын
Great tips. Thank you.
@DelinquentChibi
@DelinquentChibi Ай бұрын
Even with the nerf, I find the slugger is still really good against the bots, at least for my more reckless shotgun-happy playstyle. A good shot or two on a Devastator's head can still kill it, and it deals strong enough damage that you can take out a few Berserkers if you're patient. Plus, the round reload means you that you can stagger reloading between shots, though that does mean you can run out quickly if you're not careful. I don't even fear the Rocket Devastators anymore because I can just pump slugs into their rocket pods. And having the autocannon means I can one-or-two tap the chicken walkers if I don't feel like sprinting up to them and pumping a round into the driver.
@nathannowatzke6015
@nathannowatzke6015 2 ай бұрын
Facts. I'm a RR main, so I tend to specialize in heavy and trash clear. My AC buddies do most of the heavy lifting on bot missions. Don't underestimate clusterbombs against bots either. Bots tend to group up, even more than bugs, and a well aimed cluster often nets me 10-30 kills depending on the situation. Now that doesn't usually kill mediums or heavies, but it will kill everything that can call in a bot drop. Additionally, the pelvis is a weakspot for berserkers and scout striders. When I'm not on RR duty I like to run the AC (good for all those mediums), smoke grenades (for breaking contact), breaker and machine pistol(for clearing out berserkers), orbital rail cannon strike (for towers or heavies I can't flank), airstrike (for smashing bases), and clusterbombs (for thinning out hordes and softening bases). This seems like a good well-rounded loadout to me. Although I often find myself missing my liberator for medium range engagements. I also think the MG and Stalwart are slept on a little bit. I think the MG needs a slight buff... probably a slightly larger drum and to replenish more than 1 drum per pickup would probably make it feel really good. Anyways, the suppression effect of the MGs works really well. Additionally, rocket devastators will not wind up to shoot their rockets while they're taking damage. The MG has the ass to punch through that armor and basically stun lock their special attack. The Stalwart doesn't punch through armor, but it does suppress and makes short work of berserkers and other trash bots. When it comes to basic tactics, my group prefers to fight as buddy teams. You're just less likely to be detected and are much more agile as two people. Two people can also bring enough tools to handle pretty much any tactical situation. Occasionally all 4 of us will collapse on a single objective, like a detector tower or stratagem scrambler, and make short work of it. Happy hunting, all.
@Andres33AU
@Andres33AU 2 ай бұрын
The biggest thing I got from this video is buy the Autocannon, so that's the first thing I'm gonna do! Also, that ricochet shot into the fabricators' port holes is a game changer, thank you for showing this!
@hook357
@hook357 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the help! Subbed!
@johnandersonii
@johnandersonii 2 ай бұрын
This is one of the greatest things about this game! Two enemies means alternating between two play styles. Well, 4 if you count multiplayer/single and bug/bot. This video is pretty much the exact same way I play against the bots, and I do pretty well.
@personno.6.9billionth70
@personno.6.9billionth70 2 ай бұрын
Been playing against bots recently with some solid success. I find Armor with the anti-explosive traits to be pretty handy, helps you survive random rockets from devastators or marauders which is a huge boon, especially in low vis situations (plus added bonus of surviving friendly explosives). On top of that, mortar turrets are excellent for sentry players as they can fire from cover and soften up targets while approaching bases (added with the anti explosives armor, it really helps if you accidentally approach too quickly and not get yourself or your teammate killed). Walking Orbital Barrage is an excellent orbital choice, does solid damage in a decently tight radius, excellent for bases and softening any of the hardier units there. Also great in entrance to choke point areas as well. Finally, this worked for a teammate of mine, Servo Assisted armor is MAJOR here, being able to throw grenades and strategems at a further distance is surprisingly powerful and safer, especially if you are running mortars (including EMP), they become easy targets for any orbital and eagle, even with mutators that increases deployment time.
@FusionshadowXJ
@FusionshadowXJ 2 ай бұрын
The Scorcher counters 90% of bots. It can take out everything besides Hulks (it can even take out Hulks if you just get in close and circle behind them). It takes out cannon turrets too. Impact Grenades take care of Mortars and Tanks easily. Most bases you can just take out with a single Orbital Laser call in. Orbital Raincannon is my go to "I need this tough high priority target dead now". 110MM Rocket Pods can do that too - though they don't always 1hko the Hulks. Lately I usually run EAT against bots, though Railgun is still a great option. Being able to reliably take out Hulks goes a long way. I use the Uzi pistol for Berserkers. I dont understand the hate against bots. They are much more enjoyable to fight over Bugs. Bots you play with cover, peak out for shots, you can actually take advantage of stealth better, etc. I hate fighting bugs - it feels like it's just nonstop fighting against a massive zero. I feel like my brain turns off when playing against bugs
@adrianpiedramendez5744
@adrianpiedramendez5744 13 күн бұрын
Great stuff, I do love the Gas strat. Mad stuff. But I did get nice ideas. TY.
@mikeljareno6995
@mikeljareno6995 2 ай бұрын
What I like about fighting bots is that once you get used to automaton missions, fighting bugs and bots feel like completely different games.
@weeblekeneeble8018
@weeblekeneeble8018 2 ай бұрын
Scorcher is a very strong main weapon, it can kill every bot with little issue. The only issue is that since you can kill everything with it you will have massive ammo issues. My standard bot kit is light medic armor, scorcher, rover or shield, mortar turret, eagle air or 500, wildcard for mission.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
That sounds like a fun kit!
@TheRodentMastermind
@TheRodentMastermind 2 ай бұрын
I unlocked the Scorcher tonight and it just feels SO good against bots.
@weeblekeneeble8018
@weeblekeneeble8018 2 ай бұрын
@@TheRodentMastermindits great against bugs too, just dont use it carelessly around hunters and stalkers.
@norrecvizharan1177
@norrecvizharan1177 2 ай бұрын
As someone who mains the plasma punisher, I feel your pain. All fun and games until it gets just a little too close.@@weeblekeneeble8018
@TheRodentMastermind
@TheRodentMastermind 2 ай бұрын
@@weeblekeneeble8018 I think I prefer the Sickle against Bugs, it's really very accurate and the fact you don't run out of ammo helps a lot against the swarms. Also the fact you can use it at close range without the possibility of blowing yourself up.
@redacted5752
@redacted5752 2 ай бұрын
Just hit 100 hours yesterday, I’m mainly a bot scrapper because I find hunters and stalkers annoying as shit. Anyways here’s some tips fellow helldivers: 1. Like the guy said the diligence is the best bot gun right now. It 1 shots all smaller bots, 2 shots devastators in the head, and can 1 shot walkers if you take the time to aim a little above the shield to hit the top of their head. Next best gun is the punisher slugger but it basically does the same damage the diligence does with way less accuracy and range. 2. You can 1 shot hulks with impact grenades. Just aim slightly above their red eye so the arc goes over them and hits the top of their vent backpack. Gotten me out of so many sticky situations. 3. Use the SPEAR as much as you can it’s amazing. If the spear decides to be a bitch and not lock on, that’s when you use your stratagems. I got the under 360 seconds achievement on Search & Destroy with everyone equipping eagles and spears. Blitzkrieg’ed the fuck out of them. 4. Use the anti material rifle. Almost same stats as auto cannon but it allows you to carry a different backpack but something useful like shield generator, jump back, ammo, etc. It can also kill hulks by shooting their eye. 5. Best armors right now are the eradicator one that looks like a Kashyyk Trooper from Star Wars or the juggernaut one that looks like a badass Spartan or something. -50% explosive damage comes clutch with eradicator armor and the 2 extra grenades on the juggernaut come in clutch when you’re running impacts. These are my main 2 but more amazing options are using the gold armors that use the 50/50 chance of not taking damage or any armor with the scout ability to sneak around the map. 6. Orbital laser is your best friend for taking out heavy outposts. 7. The ammo boxes that spawn around the map give you 1 spear rocket per box so if everyone’s maxed on supplies and you see some laying around then top off your spear ammo. 8. You can 2 shot tanks with impact grenades. You don’t even need to get a direct hit on the vent as long as it’s close enough it does damage. 9. You can also kill anti aircraft, mortars, and turrets with 2 impact nades. 10. 500kg can kill any base, tactical objective, or emplacement with a direct hit. Been times where my team was struggling on this stubborn ass detector tower so we chucked a 500kg instead of waiting for the hell bomb and got it.
@buttsmcgee50
@buttsmcgee50 2 ай бұрын
Slugger is just a better version of the diligence.
@corruptedvessel9683
@corruptedvessel9683 2 ай бұрын
Impact Grenades are not that good, man. Grenades overall can barely even kill even the weakest of enemies.
@GhostlyGhille
@GhostlyGhille 2 ай бұрын
​@@buttsmcgee50 it isn't. Slugger isn't mag fed, and vs bots being able to clear hordes when your strats are on cooldown (complex stratagem mapping) it one shots everything if your aim is good and since you should be playing using cover you can take accurate shots and clear clusters of them as he said you can 2 shot devastators from ranges where they don't even aggro back when hit.
@buttsmcgee50
@buttsmcgee50 2 ай бұрын
@@GhostlyGhille slugger has the same range and does more damage. It not being mag fed is better, because you can partially reload and have better ammo conservation. It also can interrupt attacks. It's just better.
@GhostlyGhille
@GhostlyGhille 2 ай бұрын
@buttsmcgee50 slugger has ranged damage fall of as does pretty much every other gun in the game. The diligence is capable of two shooting devastators from 100 + meters out and ammo conservation isn't as big an issue when you have 8 mags of 15 shots 120 total vs 60 in the slugger litterally double the ammo per resupply. The lack of scope on a slugger once again requires you to be closer.
@hunteruhuruazrael
@hunteruhuruazrael Ай бұрын
I started yesterday. I hated the bugs, loved the bugs, been using the sniper, I learned how to deal with bots fairly decent for a noob, had some guidance too. This helps, I'll enjoy it
@qwefg3
@qwefg3 2 ай бұрын
Always nice to get more advice or possible gear tips on how to deal with annoying foes.
@TyTy-ep8pe
@TyTy-ep8pe 2 ай бұрын
Had this dude repeatedly do things I told him not to do in hell dive difficulty against the clankers. The guy realised every time why I said not to because it always ended up in a bot drop and at least one of us dying. On one particular time, I pinned a small group of automatons and said "Crawl past them, there are too many there and we don't have the lives to take on a full army right now" I crawled past and one of the two remaining alive teammates crawled past. This guy, once again, refused to listen and sprinted right past them. Needless to say, we had multiple bot drops on us. So I told the dude "Told you so" and he killed me, which resulted in the host kicking him. Either way, he compromised the mission by alerting the clankers and killing me. Moral of the story: Avoid randoms in Hell Dive.
@maxdong3514
@maxdong3514 2 ай бұрын
He shalt be sent to the re-education center to be educated in how not to be a liability
@peterpain6625
@peterpain6625 2 ай бұрын
@@maxdong3514 He'll probably also do great in the latest batch of soylent green ;)
@user-fh3im9xe9u
@user-fh3im9xe9u 2 ай бұрын
That guy was definitely one of those no-good oil-bleeding clankers in disguise.
@johnnance7607
@johnnance7607 2 ай бұрын
Most players don't seem to realize that sprinting increases your detection radius by 20 or 30 meters (more?). That, exactly as you said, if you just... walk, let alone crouch walk, you literally walk directly next to most of the bots (unless they are directly facing you). A little bit of stealth goes a very long way. The squad also has to stick together, at least on higher difficulties. You will get overrun if you don't focus fire, flank, and move through the map as a group. The Localization Confusion booster also makes a world of difference against the bots. The main thing that gets annoying at the high difficulties is the instantaneous dropship flare as soon as you shoot... anything... sometimes the infantry bots shoot it off before they are even agro'ed! Feels like the sensitivity to this needs to be toned down a bit.
@samasoku
@samasoku Ай бұрын
great video, I didn't know many things, like for example the red spots. I thought its just so they look cool. Thanks
@revanmoto6261
@revanmoto6261 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for this. I was beating my head against a wall on some of these missions. Can’t wait to try these tactics out
@Admiralofthedeeps
@Admiralofthedeeps 2 ай бұрын
I just played a fantastic bit mission. None of my strategems came with me to the mission for some reason so, no support weapon, no air strikes, etc. Only one team mate. We collected whatever support weapons we could find on the map (anti material rifle and expendable anti tank) and engaged in guerrilla warfare against the bots, destroying what we could and hitting hard before running. Against all the odds, we completed the mission and extracted. Was awesome.
@antfayden4559
@antfayden4559 2 ай бұрын
The bots have a stratagem jammer tower. If you load in and cant use them then look for the outpost with a big radar looking tower
@Admiralofthedeeps
@Admiralofthedeeps 2 ай бұрын
@antfayden4559 I know all about it. It actually wasn't the tower. It was as though the strategems weren't there at all, like I hadn't chosen them and just headed into the mission (when, in fact, I had). It was probably a bug, but it turned out to be pretty fun.
@Melmaster3
@Melmaster3 2 ай бұрын
I’ve watched your VR content for a long time, but i didn’t think I’d get this good of helldivers advice from ya in my feed man. Thanks!!! This is gonna help a tonnnn
@Sinkatze
@Sinkatze 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, great video
@MyCorn
@MyCorn 2 ай бұрын
These tips are very helpful. I started out the game playing bugs (killed 800 of them the first day or two as I learned the game doing missions). Then I went to malevolon Creek and got absolutely wrecked. But now I love bots. I love the difficulty and the challenge. Bugs are boring by comparison now. That said, these tips are helpful, for I play on difficulty 7 and higher and get wrecked frequently.
@TgsMaverick
@TgsMaverick 2 ай бұрын
Another really good option besides the auto cannon is actually the laser cannon. Like the auto cannon it can deal with all automaton targets, it just can't be used to destroy fabricators. However, it doesn't require a backpack slot so you can use that for a backpack (I'd recommend energy shield). Pair it with the Sickle and you can use one while the other cools down, so you essentially always have a weapon up without the need to reload.
@SapphirosCZ
@SapphirosCZ 2 ай бұрын
I have only one reason i dislike fighting bots. Its called Rocket Devastator.
@thescaledstranger5644
@thescaledstranger5644 2 ай бұрын
I really can't recommend the slugger highly enough for bots. It's a little clunky at super long ranges but it's superb at mid-range combat, one shots any devastator with a headshot, can damage the heat sinks of tanks and cannon turrets, can blow off the doors on storage cabinets usually found at the base of those cannons, makes anything hit by it that doesn't die and isn't a hulk/tank/walker flinch for longer than it takes to rack another shot. AND it's shell loaded, so you're never wasting a partial magazine. It even penetrates medium armor, contrary to the description of the weapon in game.
@cipanpoke
@cipanpoke Ай бұрын
My tips fighting bots is dropping near extraction point and follow the outer perimeter and move either clock wise or counter clock wise. That way you know behind you is a safe space to fall back. Stay out of LOS and scout before strategicly drop your strategem. Each level increase means increase in difficulty to go head on.
@renzobautista9790
@renzobautista9790 2 ай бұрын
Got the game last Friday. I was fighting exclusively against bugs because i was traumatized when i joined a party fighting bots when i was level 5, but when i hit level 10 and got my auto cannon, breaker and mortar sentry, that was the first time i felt that i had a chance fighting against them. I'm on level 6 difficulty only so it may not be as hard as what you guys tackle.
@Cyceryx
@Cyceryx 2 ай бұрын
im level 21 and i usually play on level 5 xD
@octogorb9853
@octogorb9853 2 ай бұрын
Auto Cannon is a good pick, the AMR is also a great non-backack alternative to the Auto Cannon which retaining similar profile (1 shotting Devastators, 2 tapping Hulks). Only downside is being weak against tanks and cannon turrets.
@dorkasaurus_rex
@dorkasaurus_rex 2 ай бұрын
it's not that weak against tanks and cannon turrets since you can empty a full magazine into their weakspots very quickly
@octogorb9853
@octogorb9853 2 ай бұрын
@@dorkasaurus_rex thats the thing, you're just mag dumping. Sometimes i've had moments where i had to dump a mag and a half. Even if im not shooting tanks/turrets im usually a bit low on ammo due to needing to snipe Devastators. So i often just throw 2 impact nades. If theres surplus ammo though i do go for the mag dump.
@dorkasaurus_rex
@dorkasaurus_rex 2 ай бұрын
@@octogorb9853 I've never struggled with ammo but I've made a habit of spamming resupply the second it's off coolfoen
@LabrnMystic
@LabrnMystic 2 ай бұрын
Fair points. Originally I hated fighting the bots over the bugs, but now I prefer to play solo missions against the bots. Make it to me it always felt inconsistent, but now hearing that they want you to keep fighting them instead of running and coming back, it makes sense why I had troubles when I did. Level 16, 32 hours into the game. The first level 4 solo mission I did, the first fabricator base I landed next to had two cannons two tanks and by the time I was clearing it up a third tank had spawned. I had gotten the auto cannon but only had a basic eagle strike and the orbital shot to help with the big guys. But equipping the scout armor, taking my time and going in as a stealthy sniper, I've been doing much better with the "running hide if it gets hot" As for my own case of the box cheat, I was walking through a stream, using the scout armor I had a blip out to where I was marching and then I'll move it forward to make sure my path is clear. And as I am walking you suddenly hear the bot voice, and a patrol of robots is now standing in the water where there was none. No blips of a patrol marching in, they literally just spawned behind me.
@RogueAgentKorasi
@RogueAgentKorasi 25 күн бұрын
"There's no reason to call two orbital lasers in at the same time." It looks really cool.
@merrickc1876
@merrickc1876 2 ай бұрын
I dont have the auto-cannon yet just started but since there is a major order on bots side im there right now. I tried Grenade Launcher it worked well for me when I play solo but there are downsides. from what i saw in the video the auto cannon might be better but it may be just a skill issue on my side that I find it hard to predict where the Grenade launcher will land on long distances so i fight at mid range only but it makes me more vulnerable to bots fire. thanks for the awesome tips ill try it out when im able. 34hrs in game helldivers 2 is awesome
@MrVelociraptor75
@MrVelociraptor75 2 ай бұрын
Try the antimaterial rifle too. Very accurate at range (although, has a misaligned scope, so it hits top left of the square... FYI) has enough punch to take any bot down through the weak points, leaves you a backpack slot. It's quite decent Grenade launcher is better against bugs in my book, for clearing the hoards.
@merrickc1876
@merrickc1876 2 ай бұрын
@@MrVelociraptor75 I'll go and try that as well. does it work against the bot fabricators as well? You should try GL at bots its kinda fun. i use them against their walkers and the range units. when too many are spawned i go halfway around a mountain outside their view and once they pop out to attack I fire. they tend to cluster around a corner when chasing it helps clear quickly. It doesn't work on hulks tho, i learned that the hard way yesterday so I might try both the antimaterial rifle and auto-cannon soon when i have enough requisitions hahaha.
@MrVelociraptor75
@MrVelociraptor75 2 ай бұрын
@@merrickc1876 No, sadly the AMR doesn't do anything against fabs. I tend to just airstrike them though, so don't really notice. That is a big plus for the Autocannon (and GL) GL is definitely good against the bots, just, I consider it "better" against the bugs. GL is just an excellent all-rounder, but, it can leave you wanting against the heavier armoured guys. So, depends what you find you struggle most dealing with, then arm accordingly - For eg, I found I was having issue with Devastators and Hulks, so the GL wasn't helping much for me, the AMR deals nicely and can still handle the rest just as well Either way, was just offering an alternative while you don't have the AC, as that's another great all-rounder, but can deal slightly more with armour, slightly less with chaff
@merrickc1876
@merrickc1876 2 ай бұрын
@@MrVelociraptor75 thanks for the suggestions i appreciate it
@Cyceryx
@Cyceryx 2 ай бұрын
autocannon has much better single target damage, grenade launcher has better swarm clear
@itsthelepto
@itsthelepto 2 ай бұрын
I like how you found a way to tell the playerbase in the kindest way possible that they're bad 30 seconds into the video. I applaud that.
@dannyhesq
@dannyhesq 2 ай бұрын
Fello Helldiver! theLOG is my name and I loved this video! Been fighting the Automatons for a while and love to see the support! Lets wipe out the scourge!!
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@Cuiasodo
@Cuiasodo Ай бұрын
It might seem obvious but always always ALWAYS remember your cover! Bugs are bad news if you stay still too long because they'll surround you, but bots get really bad when your only defense against getting shot at is to run around the map. Finding something to hide behind and peak out of to return fire often works better than trying to strafe around the bots when there's a hail of lasers.
@rennenb
@rennenb 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been using the Orbital Gas and Auto Cannon and I’ve been having a blast with it I noticed the Bot drop tip and the Auto Cannon to destroy outpost this video is great glad to see someone else doing what I learned too
@furiousfowl2468
@furiousfowl2468 2 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across this in my recommended - but I really wanted to take the time and say I really love the way you formatted the video. All the information you go over is very informative and useful, and there's absolutely no fluff or filler in it! It doesn't feel like a chore to watch, and I think it's really standout when compared to some other videos like it. Please keep up the great work! :)
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@ryvius555
@ryvius555 Ай бұрын
New player here, just wanted to say thanks for the autocannon recommendation! Its my primary weapon now against the bots and nothing is as satisfying as punching holes through whole columns of the rust buckets
@Raynis1
@Raynis1 2 ай бұрын
I needed this!!
@Liteflo97
@Liteflo97 2 ай бұрын
Solid video. I'm honestly surprised by the disparity in where players want to fight. I honestly struggle with the bugs and find the automatons very manageable.
@Cyceryx
@Cyceryx 2 ай бұрын
SAMEE
@StormerWindfall-qz5tn
@StormerWindfall-qz5tn 2 ай бұрын
Aye, very useful tips, I fight the Robodumbos all the time using strats similar to what you suggest. The atuocannon is great against bots. Guten Tag!
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! The autocannon is the great equalizer
@StormerWindfall-qz5tn
@StormerWindfall-qz5tn 2 ай бұрын
@@DownloadableContentAye it is lad. I honestly didn’t know that the gas would do anything to the Robots since well, there robots lol. But now I know.
@suspect1996
@suspect1996 Ай бұрын
I can't wait to try this loadout! I'm still grinding to get that scout armor but this does look op and fun especially since I love to try and solo.
@lt-elhew5838
@lt-elhew5838 Ай бұрын
Great information!
@Pygex
@Pygex 2 ай бұрын
Gas disabling reinforcements for enemies is not specific to gas. Enemies that can reinforce do it if they are alerted to player presence and feel "safe", that is, they have not been staggered or damaged within a time window. Because gas deals damage over time they will never feel safe while it is in effect. Yeah people always go in guns blazing which works against bugs but against bots you just gonna face tank rockets that way. Bots require a slower play style, you have to stop and think how you are going to engage and most people seem to be unable or unwilling to do that.
@xenovita
@xenovita 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this comment, I played a couple of games like you said and it was brilliant now I am getting teams of level 50 guys going guns blazing only to fail all objectives. It's really frustrating
@RonJeremy514
@RonJeremy514 2 ай бұрын
Guerilla tactics + accuracy is what defeat bots. And of course it’s all part of democracy, that’s why we are the best!
@DarkShadow84
@DarkShadow84 2 ай бұрын
Unable. It is unable. Just think about how dumb the average person is and then remember that half of them a dumber.
@Lord-Phantom
@Lord-Phantom 2 ай бұрын
As a Creek Crawler 1 member of every squad must have auto-cannon, 1 scorcher is always welcome but not necessary scythe and blitzer go to, most orbitals and eagles are good. Things to avoid: No Mechs you are sitting ducks for tower cannons, no standard mortars the bots swarm you all the time mortars are friendly fire, final and most important never bring increased reinforcements over flexible reinforcement budget 4 more lives is minsc-meat 30secs on cooldown if it’s that bad is godsend.
@SkateEverythingProject
@SkateEverythingProject 2 ай бұрын
Killer video dude!
@JJsiN84
@JJsiN84 Ай бұрын
The past week I’ve been getting very good with fighting these things. This is very helpful as I will admit, we don’t use stealth as much as we should.
@itsBAY35
@itsBAY35 2 ай бұрын
My favorite bot loadout that I just discovered by trying out random combos the other night is as follows: EMS Mortar Autocannon Eagle Smoke Strike Eagle 110mm Rocket Pods EMS on objectives for CC, Autocannon to take out Hulks, Devastators, and even Tanks (3 shots to the rear vent destroys them, easy to do if you can have a tm8 draw aggro, or if EMS hits them), Smoke Strike for when you realize you're starting to create a reinforcement feedback loop. Toss slightly ahead of you as you retreat and it will cut off LoS and they will stop chasing you (don't have to fight everything, just pause at that location and go do some side objs), 110 Rocket Pods for fast and unlimited deletion of heavies. Works extra well if you have a teammate who also runs an EMS mortar, to double up on the CC at objs and extract
@chrislevack405
@chrislevack405 2 ай бұрын
This was a very accurate assessment. Thank you for doing what i do over voicechat but in youtube format. You are the man.
@nuclearsimian3281
@nuclearsimian3281 Ай бұрын
One recommendation. Try using the Orbital EMS strike paired with the gas. That'll take out entire spawns and they both have the same cooldown and last about as long as the other. Also, quite amusingly, almost all of these Autocannon tips work great if you take the Quasar too, its just you have to be almost a tiny bit more precise because it takes you longer to refire.
@DownloadableContent
@DownloadableContent Ай бұрын
Another great tip!
@zachroland2398
@zachroland2398 2 ай бұрын
Running a quasar cannon or two in addition to some autocannons, can be a great addition. They have infinite ammo, are capable of knocking down the drop ships, and one shot hulks and tanks, if aimed into the weak point. In addition, if you hit a Hulk and its vision vent, that small red slit where it's face is, you can kill it in one shot as it's charging you.
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