😅😅

Yeah, but never underestimate the power of someone who understands bureaucracy. At times, at a stroke of a pen (or, in this case, typewriter), they can be more effective than any military unit. 😳

Considering he only fires one bullet in the entire movie... yeah i think he would.

Instead of Germans kill per minute he has words written per minute

The helmet?

And very reassuring!

Duty doesn't care about opinions

...and you don't need your typewriter but you need your helmet

Comforting you mean? Yes, definitely not! 😅

@@normturner4849 yes, comforting is a more appropriate word

850$*. Army likes to overcharge for the smallest things as an ultimate f*ck you. Like paying 45$ for canteens

Somehow, that figures. Good old military

$85 for 1944 is crazy money

$85 is fairly cheap for military price. I tried to order 10 lightbulbs for the boilers, it got denied. The lightbulb burned out on a daily basis, so 10 bulbs only last a few days. But then 10 bulbs apparently cost too much for them to approve my order.

​@@tavuong666not in 1944 it isn't lol

Never noticed this part until now and I totally agree

His name was Upham not Oppen.

"Oppen" lol. Average IQ of someone who thinks SPR was better than The Thin Red Line or that Spielberg is a good filmmaker. People actually watch entire movies and don't even comprehend the name of the audience stand-in character.

@@joelglanton6531 meh don't be too hard on them, we all get names wrong, they don't show his name in the movie so unless you're watching the credits you wouldn't know how it's pronounced. But well done on identifying the character as an audience surrogate. Not many guys who watch the film understand Upham represents them. They hate on the character because he loses it in the final battle and fails to help Mellish so they see him as a wuss without realising it's cos they hate themselves they hate him cos they'd be as useless in battle and don't like that reflected on screen. They want to pretend they're Reiben or Sergeant Horvath. Interestingly Ryan also has a mini melt down in the final battle but nobody ever notices that. And they also forget Upham ultimately got revenge for all of them when he killed the soldier who was responsible or in part responsible (we don't know whether he actually shot Wade directly) for Wade's death. So his arc is very interesting cos he's not a natural combat soldier like the others, he tries to convince himself being in combat is healthy until it happens and he realises it's terrifying and that he can't really handle it, then he's responsible for saving a soldier the rest of the squad were ready to murder in a heart beat but a soldier who goes on to kill the one man who let him live (Miller) and then subsequently is the only soldier Upham kills. The very soldier he'd fought to save. So there's a whole circle going on with his arc. But to others he's just a wimp.

@@user-et6pj4db9s This movie tosses my salad and so do you. Imagine patting yourself or other people on the back for understanding saccharine, Spielberg slop meant to entertain the lowest common denominator.

Just wait a couple months

Yeah, considering everybody in the platoon was dead by the end of the movie

Yes other typists didn't know French and German.. Sometimes your talents can put you in a spot...😂

Almost a year later: Ellison! You are being transferred to the 2nd armored division! One of the tanks needs a new bow gunner!

if you're not deaf or blind, better stay illiterate and most importantly, stay away from foreign languages!

"It's dry with notes of Bavarian and under notes of..... [smacks lips] American" lol

The boss asked him about his accent so he summed it up concisely. If someone asks what the wine tastes like and you say it tastes good they probably won't believe you because you should be able to summarise it if you are knowledgeable about it.

​@KayAteChef Yeah, I don't get these comments about his response about his accent. He was indeed asked about it and his response was fair and reasonable, concise and useful.

⁠@@MisterHowzatit’s the mannerisms and tone. He communicated effectively, but it does sound like a wine review. It’s a joke, not that serious

There's a region in Germany called Bavaria .. so little Americans know...

That's the way it is in the army or Marines. No matter what your MOS is ,you can still find yourself in harm's way.

In reality this wouldn't have happened due to his job being to make maps and interpret information.

​@Nerezza1 of course it would happen. There's a reason everybody recieves rifle training. Cooks will become riflemen when necessary.

@@winkoman3 When necessary means "when everything has gone to shit". You don't take someone with a rare skillset and put them with the regular expendable grunts.

@@Nerezza1 it's necessary when they are needed, and he was needed. This is a bizarre complaint.

Fuckin’ Upham

Still hate him no amount of explanation could erase my hatred to this guy

​@@Jupiter.141same. Only time he ever used a weapon was to commit a war crime.

He didn't let them die, this is what morons say, apart from the fact he had no combat training and was only taken with them to translate he was quickly entering shell shock in the final battle which is exactly how you losers on the net would be if you were thrown into all that after doing nothing but sitting on the net all your lives in a cosy house. The only soldier that likely died cos of Upham having a meltdown was Mellish but um the others weren't coming to Mellishs rescue either. The point was they were all fighting for their own lives and you seem to be forgetting Upham killed the soldier who'd killed Wade. He didn't "let" anyone down. He represents how you would handle war if you were there which is why you hate him cos you hate yourself. Cos you're all weak as piss little cowards who would be crying for mummy yourselves if you'd been there. Truth hurts doesn't it?

​@@DavionX13 Considering the entire squad was ready to murder Steamboat Willy you can hardly isolate Upham for that.

My grandfather smoked like a chimney and couldn't pass a physical to save his life. He spent most of the war "defending", which meant smoking and playing cards.

@@cattysplat defending what?

My grandfather was in college as a journalism major when the US entered the war. Since he knew how to type he was stationed in England with a desk job for the whole war.

@@lyhthegreatHQ

Berlin

If it can go FUBAR, it will go FUBAR!

It never goes to plan. The enemy doesn't do what you want him to do ever

Bummer

​@@urbanobstaclesThat's why they're the enemy.

What are you even talking about?? 🙄

That’s true. He did say he loves typewriters in an interview with Ezra Klein 😂

Well, he had to pay for it I guess. Imagine winning a world war and when you go back home you are asked "But, where's your typewriter?" 😂

Don't know about '45, but in 1980..

​@@kyuubikitsune7022I know when I got out I was surprised at what they wanted back vs. what they didn't give two 💩's about.

There’s such a thing as a “field loss.” Doesn’t apply to everything, but certainly a typewriter. Go ahead and lose a 30 round magazine of 5.56 ammo…

During the D-Day invasion a lot of stuff was written off as a field loss. I highly doubt they would want back or care about the typewriter. You’re equating WWII Army with the hyper-bureaucratic paper pusher Army of today.

thats 🧢

​@@SP-ik6cc Right!? That's so stupid lol.

**⚠️ Warning, dark humor ahead Did the theater also cheer at the beginning as the landing craft ramp opened?

@@pootyting3311 whoa... Dude you're so dark and edgy

He was a soldier who had been through basic training and knew how to fire his weapon. He was qualified.

@@darrengilbert7438there’s more to fighting that shooting, he was prepared physically but not mentally, you would do the same thing because any sane person has difficulties killing people.

​@@darrengilbert7438Being a frontline soldier wasn't his job though the captain is at fault he picked a logical person instead of an actual soldier

@@kingseb2252unfortunately you are correct. The leader needs to pay attention to detail with care. He literally just picked a random “qualified guy” rather than picking someone who is brave to fight for his country and brothers in arms!

@@xxCelticFC his job was radio communications not combat there were hindreds of thousands of people at Normandy he could of pivked any soldier tjat spoke German or french but no it was his fault upom i forgot his name is brave but it takes alot to kill an actual human being even if you are military or even police

No wander kind of this movie not make anymore, too expensive.

tbh I didn't even notice that I just took it for granted that the background looked real... that's actually quite amazing.

The film overall is just a masterpiece

It's something you don't notice consciously, but your brain does, and makes you believe a bit more that this is reality. It wouldn't be the same if they talked in a bunker or something.

No at the end of the movie he became mature

Plenty of troops are nervous about going into combat it would be weird if he wasn’t afraid

@@julianputnam8290 afraid? Understandable. It's not being afraid. He's got no guts. He's not a killer. I was 10 when I saw this movie the first time and when they introduced upham I said to my dad he's gonna get someone killed. Upham is gutless, in the sense of he was probably drafted, wanted to complete his service without ever firing a shot at another soldier.

@@scottruch76it was his first encounter with war. Like Upham said he only drew maps and typed papers. So when all the fighting was going he was safe and sound every time. His encounters on this mission scared him to the point he was useless in combat. Your right that he shouldn’t have been on that mission and him not killing that German at the end costed his brothers their lives. But I do sympathise with him being petrified with the horrors of war. If they had the time they should’ve got a translator who has been in combat. I know in Upham’s case he had to at some point but this mission is too delicate for him to get proper experience.

​@@scottruch76yeah I was there and stood up and clapped and everything

This is why the US has a volunteer force now. If a man doesn't want to be in combat then he's not as effective as a man that volunteers for service. This man was still doing his job. He was afraid, and that's ok.

Are most intel guys that timid?

​@@rifqitaqiuddin imagine you're a skinny nerd who was expecting to do your service breaking cold and drawing maps, you're good at that. You know damn well you're a coward and don't have the guts for combat. And now some ranger rolls up and Shanghais you one of the most dangerous jobs imaginable. Uppum had to be brutalized to become a killer that's the whole point of his arc and the tragedy of it.

​@rifqitaqiuddin not everyone in uniform is cut out for combat. It's not necessarily hard to kill someone but if you stop to think about it as most would. You'll get a bunch of people killed as Upham did.

@@rifqitaqiuddin not timid, but as intel, we’re cautiously aware of “what could be” 😂

@@iamlegion3093 i see. Its more of educated Caution. See, when i was making that comment, i had an image of a Marine S2 Begging to be sent on a mission he worked on. Like sometimes, not knowing the danger is somehow a better state for the marines, keep morale high up and aggression guaranteed.

Ok🙄👌

That’s because quite a lot of scenes from the movie, especially the beach landing, were taken from the memories of survivors of the D-Day invasion.

@@gregshock no, because we know where all the gun placements were its easy to try to move some guys on the beach in a computer program and watch how they get mowed down

@@erichvonmanstein6876 : I have no idea what your point is.

​@@erichvonmanstein6876an interesting take, but highly irrelevant in the context of the comment. Simulating moving soldiers up a battlefield is one thing. Trying to recreate the emotion and chaos in it is another.

and you are yust promouthed,.. you may consider yourself as a volunteer 😅 Sorry for bad english.

guys

​@@peakovacevic1533"volunteer"

@@phoonjzc Tnx

I saw a clip from a doc, Vietnam, a fresh lieutenant was in country for like 2 or 3 weeks before he was made company commander. He made it out somehow.

THE greatest

❤😂🎉

Who's the one?

​@@iAnasaziUpham, the guy he is talking about is the one that wanted to bring his typewriter

That’s a show but I get the idea

@@ReLax-ru2pk More of a mini-series. Since the episodes were movie length.

Absolutely ridiculous premise. What happened to communications , to radio a group that was closer or to Ryan’s Platon commander?

​@dilipanthonypinto1620 he little didn't have one the highest rank in his platoon there was a corpal they just made the jump so no radio buddy he wasn't in the best position

saw your comment and immediately knew that someone would respond with: „but Band of Brothers was a mini-series🤓“ 😂😂 dont take it as an offense 😅

the whole point of the movie is that the mission is absurd on so many levels. Captain leading a squad to find one paratrooper behind the enemy lines to send him home. Big officers make big mistakes (FUBAR missions), small officers make small mistakes (MG nest) and soldiers make "tiny" mistakes which are usually paid with their own life right then and there.

@@vitcermak7737 preach brother!

They dont have the luxury of being selective and picky. You get what's available and make do. Every soldier has to be prepared for the possibility of being on the frontline. Doesnt matter if they're a cook or a typist

@@ball3677 truth, happened to my great uncle in Korea. Was working on an aircraft carrier and was conscripted into battle

Sounds like this decision may have been made higher up. If so, Miller deals with the hand he is dealt. Not perfectly, of course.

You should make a one 🤔

I've been looking for a comment about who died thanks

Yeah, like in "Inglorious Basterds". Ask me for the link if you're interested.

@@MisterHowzat Actually, I remember that scene. OMG!

Bro, bavarian isnt an accent, it's a dialect. Having a dialect doesnt take agency from your language skills, it adds to them since a dialect cant be learned in schools traditionally. You have to either grow up speaking or live years in the community to be able to speak a dialect. It wouldnt expose you as a foreigner, it would let you pass as a local. I cant imagine why that would be lethal.

​@@MisterHowzat I remember the bar scene because of the way he ordered the three glasses

@@williamsoares500 Oh yeah!

apparently that was improvised

maybe. Quite often while making movies actors are teached to not stop acting if something unexpected happens or they accidently do something not in script as the recorded scene may become the best possible one, very hard to repeat because of registered some natural reactions. For example during making scene, unpredictably a cat appears in frame. An actor may intuitively grab him and cuddle for a while and let him go then continue to act following the script. It may turn out that fits very well to scene and the outcome is very natural. :) This is why no actor should stop acting untill a director says 'cut' :)

​@@Corleone007yeah like that cat scene in godfather, also as your yt handel name suggests

*Voluntold

You're in the army now. Son.

Pencil ✏️ but yes, funny as hell!😅

He's a fucking soldier first, what about that don't you understand?

@@dustinasher9643 well that should be the case but obviously during ww2 everyone joined up, total war is another matter. Its obvious upham wasn't assigned to a combat role for a reason from the beginning.

Many soldiers were civilians drafted and were not ready for war, most were killed, there were civilians that used to the war, some others that couldn't

​@@dustinasher9643found the guy who never served

​@@magicstix0r what are you on about? Everyone who does basic training is trained to be a "soldier first". Only then do you move on to your specific trade training

That is not a bullet, that is a pencil

@@zulutania ahhhh my eyes were always bad until lasik, I always internalized that as a bullet saying "get your gun." But to both points then, it's still him as a patient Officer wordlessly informing his new translator that a pencil will suffice; thank you for changing that 20 year memory for me.

@@busterdog321 No worries:) I enjoy these kind of revelations myself, so I wanted to give you one:)

@@zulutania he killed 3 guys... with a fucking pennnncil

Yeah but some people think they’d be like Rambo if they were really there for D-Day because they completed COD on veteran mode.

I wonder why you read this comment and just repeated it like a brainless beta lemming

One of the reasons why Americans won was that they were more desperate and determined then Germans were as evidenced by what you've described.

I served in the US Army as an Armor Crewman. This is still very commonplace. If uncle Sam thinks your job isn't rly needed, he'll find you a different one. A good example is this guy I knew who was an infantryman. He deployed to Afghanistan, and after coming back (and nearly losing life and limb) he said "I'm never doing that shit again" and reclassed to a non combat MOS. So he goes through AIT for this different job (CBRN specialist), shows up to a different unit a couple months later thinking he'll just run the CS gas chamber or whatever. Come to find out that unit was also about to deploy to Afghanistan and they didn't really have a need for CBRN specialists as much as they needed Infantrymen. So they made him an "honorary grunt" and threw him in an infantry platoon, with which he then again deployed to Afghanistan, doing the same shit he tried to escape from by reclassing. 😂

Well, Captain Miller is an Officer. It’s his duty to look after his men like that.

Excellent! Didn’t think of that.

It is young awkward people who are the ones that learn to develop an insurmountable amount of patience to deal with those taking issue with everything under the sun, including people just a little more awkward and slow.

Absolutely...that scene was well nuanced!

which logical questions ?

Quite a few American soldiers could speak and understand German in those days. There were no shortages of interpreters then.

Basic soldiers theme to live by is never volunteer for anything. In his case he should have undersold his languages. Eg: "yes I speak them but it's really shitty and I've been told I almost got people killed". That should work!😅

Thank you for reminding me to watch it as well,,,,I was a Marine grunt and I never want to take anything for granted. I'm kind of but job,,,I'm always observing some of my beloved fellow Americans acting so entitled as if they'll always have everything. Bonne continuation mon ami vive la France et Les États-Unis !

I meant to say nut job 😜

You are speaking way too much sense lol!!!👍👍

That's facts 🎉.

Well said. Very well

I’ve heard that as well.. love this movie

That goes for only for the Western front, if you want the best movie that shows you tbe Eastern front then it would be "иди и смотри"/"come and see" which is also regarded as the best portrayal of how horrifying war is as an anti-war movie

Yea after let his friend died slowly

MOS meaning please ?

​@@jrgraugnard6901Military Occupation Speciality.

@@jrgraugnard6901 Military occupational specialty. It's your "job" in the military.

No, me and alot of other goobers who enlisted understand the need to protect the goober to your left and right more than your own morals. If you ever enlist you feel a natural bond to everywhere asshole who wears that same unifrom. You feel it even more when you get out or see combat

Keyboard warriors signaling to everyone how brave they are when in fact they have no clue how they would perform.

I feel that upham is very much a character that sort of presents the audience. Most men are not Rambos in combat, but get scared and mostly just try to survive.

Love all your comments here.

a ton of intelligence exists at the small unit level who do you think sends it up and provides the intelligence to the shooters on/off the battlefield

@@supercoolguy43 so would they answer to the Battalion S2 or what? Would they be a part of a headquarters company or a like, separate intelligence unit?

Well he is a part of battalion HQ i believe. Regimental or higher would be much bigger in terms of organisation. What Upham's MOS was a part of translating a document that actual intelligence brought back or make the map based on captured map

@HamburgerTime209 Usually part of a separate intelligence unit. Any intel that needs to be passed up to the top is just briefed by higher ranking members of the intel unit. In the modern US military, what you usually see is either an intel unit directly connected to a combat arms unit or intel soldiers/marines/airmen/sailors from separate intel units temporarily assigned to those combat arms units.

I've always wondered if it was Upham who made the map that Miller probably used to go into the mine field?

Why did they say never to be this guy?

@@abijithp92 that we should always make sure and be ready for real combat. That we are soldiers first, not map makers. Just because we have a cushy job doesn't mean that we can relax and let our guard down. They didn't want anyone going through mapping school, and coming out and getting people hurt or killed.

That's why all Marines are riflemen first and your MOS is secondary to your primary function.

You're proof that perspective is everything. He was asked how his accent was. His response was fair and reasonable. But thanks to you, we get to see another perspective.

It happened a lot during the war, the US had over over 290 thousand combat fatalities, 1 million total casualties. Replacements from the US are an ocean's voyage away. This isn't a cliche, this is a reality of War. It's no good saying there's a guy in a training base in Virginia who speaks 5 languages and is a specially trained in urban warfare, he's on another continent and they need to leave in 5 minutes. So food for thought with "oh they'll be in a uniform, they'll be in the combat zone... but no one will actually expect them to fight, will they?"

Yeah because we have never seen a kid character before SPR in a war movie. *roll eyes*

Yeah obviously they needed a "weak" character and enemy sympathizer to make stuff happen later in the plot. Screenwriting has kind of moved on from this thankfully.

The reason Upham is brought along is, as Miller stays, linguistics. Miller has no soldiers in his unit that speak French. Therefore he needs a man who is familiar with the language.

@@williamlydon2554 my point is that after seeing a brief inventory of his disposition and characteristics as a soldier he wasn't ideal and would have been better to look elsewhere for another candidate. Look at it in a modern sense in today's recent wars would Rangers randomly grab someone on base that knew Pashto and Arabic that had no qualifications other than Basic training and AIT to accompany them on a mission behind enemy lines? Simply put it's problematic Upham is a prime example why no matter what the circumstances they don't take randoms on base on their missions unless they can keep up and meet a certain standard. Again 175,000 troops have landed on the Normandy Beach head I'm sure that another few hours of looking they would've found a more capable interpreter. That's all I'm saying

@@wg1751 In Generation Kill, they do exactly that. The First Reconnaissance Battalion is assigned a Kuwaiti interpreter before they invade Iraq. The dude isn't a trained recon Marine. Of course there were probably soldiers better suited for the mission then Upham. Infantrymen who could speak the language. However time was critical and I doubt a company Commander would easily part with them.

Excellent comment. The only thing I can think of is that the combat infantry units to not have men to spare. So he had no choice but to take a p o g. But yes it seems farfetched that there are not two line infantry soldiers available who could have translated either French or German

Considering the guy had a typewriter I would say they probably far enough from the frontline

@@DiegoMorales-zl9ri nah saluting in country is insane

Yeah but he made it count

​@@magicstix0rBy murdering a POW? Well done... 🤦🏼‍♂️

@@granitesevan6243 it was a legit kill under the Geneva conventions so fucking cry more. The fact that the soldier went back into rotation instead of surrendering made him executable as a spy.

Yes, back when we had to write rather than type, we didn't make the kind of spelling errors as much as today. It's "than", not "*then". And "typewriter" is one word, not two.

Rather a pencil, a fooooking pencil!!

@@bikigcc2007 I carry a pencil and a pen with me at all times.including now, as in right now typing this ,and I have a square copy page folded up in my phone wallet.. a sharpened pencil is better then a pen too 👍

@@RobertOtoole-jo5bg yup, cant agree more!

Oui, ça c'est le bon français 🇨🇵 !

Just tosses it lol😂