Yup.. world has gone mad and its getting worse out there

If I came back to this I would like to return to death 😂

You didn't hear about it 15 years ago because the target was LGB people and Muslims. That didn't work so now they're isolating and attacking trans people. They're just being scapegoated to stop you realising who the real source of society's problems are. It's a methodology that goes back centuries. You only care about this issue in the first place because right wing media has told you they're coming for your kids. There were plenty of trans and non-binary people around 10, 15, 20 years ago. No one batted an eyelid. So if something has changed then what is it? There aren't more trans people now. Trans people are a bit more open about their experiences. No. What's changed is they've been targeted for hate and the media won't shut up about it because while you're looking at trans people choosing which loo to pee in you aren't looking at the real source of the problems we face as a society.

​@@greenfields1221Now just more so

I think this world has been taken over by a very sick and strange species and I didn't even have to die to get there.

That is exactly and precisely correct. The word ‘gender’ should be eliminated until such time it can be scientifically verified, which it never will be, because it was completely unscientific from the start.

Persona, dress style, demeanor....that's all it is. They want to define themselves out of reality, as some special new thing. I see it as yet another quirk of the human burden of consciousness and social pressures. E.g. supernaturalism/religions

Gender is a personality for people who never developed a real personality. Now they have a fake one that they can get woke points for and pull the victim card.

The psychological perspective is that they are referring to the terms feminine and masculine without realising it and calling it gender. A feminine gay man for example or a masculine gay woman. etc etc. A masculine gay woman would be the type to dress as a man and portray as a man if she were to be the most extreme version of masculinity imaginable.

Notice when he started to list genders, he started with asexual. Um that's a sexuality/preference. Temperament is also not gender. the whole gender term is so warped now!

Rabbi Schmuley!

Yes, that's Piers and Douglas's method precisely.

Murray: self hating hermaphrodite??

​@@edeledeledel5490no..that stupid reporter

​​@@edeledeledel5490duuuuuuh yep das Pierce and Douglas duuuuuuh yep!

Good question 🙋

In the past, we would have just ignored the village fools.

Exactly. Ignore them. They only want attention and to feel 'special'

We need to stop listening to them and accomodating their delusions!

ikr

😂 and she didn't even know what his book was about 😂😂😂

I think that was fair game, though, because he pointed out that she'd used an incorrect word previously. We all make mistakes -- even Douglas -- but pointing it out came across as rude and petty. That was why she hit back in the way she did. What's good for one is good for another...

She knew what his book was about (the supposed erosion of European ethnic identity as a result of migration from the Global South). Her timing was off in terms of the chronology, but Murray was part of the xenophobic mood music between the Referendum in 2016 and the vote in 2019.

How come all they can do is ask questions? They will never say what they actually think the answer is to anything because its "put them all in camps, 1 penny an hour minimum wage enforced on anyone without a doctorates degree, hang all non religious people, take away all womens rights and legalize grape" also none of you care about jeffrey epsteins list of pedos, every politician you like is on that list, i dont like any so thats not gonna work reverse kiddos.

@@leftforbed1041 Murray is a Chad 🥰

Absolutely. It was not that long ago that people WERE ostracised for believing this woke nonesense. How the world has fallen.

I'm not a "conservative" per se, but i agree with you 100 on this. Most in the middle do.

90% of teachers are woke psychos I am a teacher and everyday i get shunned for being normal and healthy

I agree.

Those people are dangerous but also morons, they argue with biology as it pleases them. And in the end they can't even give definitions - how many genders are there? what actually is a woman? I wish they'd all go hermaphrodite and f* themselves!

ikr

Yes 😂 Only thing better was him singing "Nooo Noo Nooooo" at 4:04

He’s a bad ass. Actually brings facts

Timestamp? Dont have the patience to watch the whole vid

What a rude cow!!!

Same here, I do not identify as man, I am a man.

well I was born a man with beans and a frank between my legs however like the boy in Matt Walsh's book , I identify as a walrus

Saying `I AM a woman' is the same as saying `I identify as a woman'.

@@michaellorenzen8200 and I am the Egg man 😂

The stupidity of saying "being asexual is an identity." I can't get over the gall of privileged people to characterize the experiences of millions of other people.

She is typical . Nasty rotten woman. I hesitate to use the word bitch, what is the word for a female cat ?

She's a women haha double standards for them

She also whines like an alley cat about being interrupted, but the first thing she does is interrupt Douglas Murray when it’s his turn to speak, like all typical leftists do when they debate. Can you imagine the torture of being married to a vile creature like her?

Murray is a liar. He want you to beleive his lies.

Karl would be proud.

I usually turn off what I'm watching now, when I see her on a panel.

Well they both slandered each other so who lost?

@@LamedvavnikThe bitch who slandered first.

@@Lamedvavnik I would say the person who resorted to it first loses.

The question of who has a career is all you need To know

@@Lamedvavnikthe one who’s argument is not based on facts.

I totally agree, maybe she would like a fully in fact adult with a penis naked in a space with little girls she knows, or if it was her daughter. It's disgusting isn't it.

Duct tape needed 😂

@stellalavender-de6mt I was thinking more along the lines of some kind of anti brainwashing camp. I understand some women agreeing in person with Trans for safety reasons but doing it publicly, she is either getting paid, a pedo cult member, or brainwashed.

Women children and lgb rights. Time for this to STOP 🛑

She is too dumb to see the connection.

I really hope she has no sons

I hope she is not allergic to cats.

Who is she?

​@@rullangaarnobody important

@@rullangaar I looked her up she only appears to be famous for getting decimated on shows like this

That's because she didn't have one.

She has no serious point. All nonsensical tripe.

Seems like Ava's point was cut from this clip? Douglas refers to something she said that clearly wasn't included. Wonder why that is?

Women don’t belong in the workplace.

Well, she did try to blame Murray's 2017 book for causing Brexit...............even though the Referendum was in 2016................That's the level Murray is trying to deal with here!

What was once a dream, ended up in a nightmare

As ever, he hits the nail on the head. The stupid t@rt Ava shows why her views are minority and extreme.

he didn’t say anything reasonable in this video im not sure if you actually watched it

​@@_Tp__ok enabler

​@@_Tp__Can an orange identify as an apple? Or anything it wants? Does its delusion mean nothing if in reality its still an orange with a fucked up perception of what it is?

And he is debating [insert slur]! Douglas should be debating other serious intellectuals. Not people like Eva or Sylvanna or Peter. It is a waste of time. We should label people like Peter and Eva here as loona tics and not worth our time. I tried to make an analysis of Eva here based on this little debate and Peter is a kiddy fiddler it seems. We should toss them aside.

She is an embarrassment, but you can't deny she's kind of hot.

Not much intelligence is her problem.

shes hot though

She unfortunately, is just like the majority of modern women.

SHE is the person that is being rude NOT Douglas. She is an utter disgrace to real Women.

Of course he is!

🎯

"Won't somebody please think of the children" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

​@@jeffsuter344OK Groomer.

It's not their feelings that matter. What really matters is the truth. Denying the truth is denying reality which makes them schizophrenic. I think the left ideology can make people go nuts.

@@jeffsuter344 lol laugh all you want, there are teachers raging at students for disagreeing with the multi gender rubbish.

Exactly! Barefoot, Pregnant, Kept in the kitchen. Don't get me wrong I have the greatest respect and admiration for women

She has been brainwashed by the patriarchy 😂

that's why men bleed, are being mutilated and killed on the battlefields and not women!!

She is a traitor and collaborator. After the war, they get their head shaved.

She'd be one of the women in turquoise if this was the Handmaid's Tale.

he also says there is a limit but there is no limit

@@bogdanpopescu1401 He also advocated for PIE back in the day 😡

That’s because in five years time he’ll probably be saying there are 200 genders. doesn’t want to get tied down now, does he.

No-one has been able to define how many genders there are - if you follow this line of thinking, apparently there could be as many genders as there are people in the world.

Tatchell is an absolute arse,he always has been..i did laugh when someone punched the moron in the face..on camera!

Agree in sentiment, but heres the military perspective: The rubicon was already crossed, in order go get to the kids.

If your boy comes home and decides he wants to suck dick/has no interest in women, he wasn't indoctrinated. He's gay bro.

Children have been indoctrinated in schools for many generations now. Mine were taught about a mystical being that controls everything and must be prayed to for forgiveness, all without my consent. Fucking hilarious how them being told they can be who they like is triggering everyone.

Are they? I hope so, but I think the backlash, will have be a lot more serious, to achieve more than slightly slowing them down.

​@palpaladin315 the Rubicon was not crossed, it keeps retreating.

The crazy trans force the shits in the classroom

Same as men forcing their abortion values on women.

Hopefully they have no children.

A single adult in a classroom says something stupid, and it becomes the basis for fear it’s being done everywhere. That’s culture war. Just a few years ago we would’ve just ignored, now, the right wing is looking for every excuse to sensationalize these things, and more to create division and political support. Meanwhile, the important work in government has mostly stalled from the right way as they have no answers, or ideas about having improve the country, their agenda simply to on the libs. That’s not going to get us anywhere.

That's the thing for normal gay people like Douglas here he's seeing a backlash on gay rights because of the ridiculous gender propaganda a small minority are trying to push on everyone

So he can have sex with children?! 🤯

​@@thegreat7861Why else lower the age of consent...why else!

Why he is allowed on panels is a mystery , let's not forget he was a member of P I E (Paedophile Information Exchange)

'P' word....

I despise him

You don't know? Go see the numbers of homossexuals molested, killed... Why we need to judge sexual identity on thirds when the important it's their values, ideas, right?

Did you hear? Did you listen??? It is just simply not true!! What part of that don't you understand???

douglas murray et al were the creators and supporters of the lgbt movement. they dont like it today because they are being marginalized and excluded because the victim narrative of today prioritizes other people

@@bobbyy.7762 what do you mean?

​@@bobbyy.7762what are you banging on about?

Parents teach the children nonsense all the time. Just go to any church and witness the nonsense that adults teach children. Hell, lake of fire, eternal damnation, etc.

I, for the life of me, cannot understand how Peter Thatchell is still invited onto discussion panels on TV. Can no one spot a p3do anymore, fr?!

yes, they are 💯 Ridiculous! It's painful to listen to them😩

They tie themselves in knots with their garbage

@@lynnm6413 he should be in jail.

@@robkeeleycomposer at least they should investigate his computers and search his home...

Yup.

Talk about rude. She accuses Murray of being rude when she interrupts him. Plus she tries to school him about his own work which she hasn’t read deeply.

@@wolfhound1452 Im gay man... and I agree that the insane minority has taken over and is making it far worse for everyone... why is it always white women, like Ava, who feel they have every right to speak for everyone? Out of the 30 or so people in my circle of acquaintances and friends not one of us are on board with any of this gender nonsense... yet here's Ava using us to further her argument as she attacks Douglas' points.

Oh then called him hun. Imagine if he called her sweetheart.

@@sugarkane4830 Kind of passive aggressive, right?

​@@sugarkane4830calm down dear 🤣

Piers is a populist pillock.

​@@Yesindeed126ijjk

@@Yesindeed126 are you think what im thinking wink wink maybe we go after her JK :D

@@Yesindeed126 bit weird mate. You plan on stalking?

​@@Yesindeed126none of your business.

They are unbelievably stupid. The woman in incorrigible.

It is a headache. I do this all the time. Women operate on a less than logical fallacy with pretty much everything. It’s frustrating when you try to make a point and they just keep changing the point to something they can be right about.

You can tell see the gay guy and his logic starting to break down and he finally felt like he had slayed the dragon when he said “I disagree with the bbc on genders” and he got all smug as if he’d made a logical,point and had perhaps won the debate whilst looking like a fool. But he’s feminine so he doesn’t mind.

@@longsleevethong1457 There are two gay guys in this video. And that's not a joke about Piers, haha.

@@longsleevethong1457 Not put all women in same basket, nor men, but generally yeah most women are completely ruled by their feelings. If something feels right to her she will defend it regardless of logic.

Gay though, shouldn't preach morality, they are the first disobeying the word of god

Ok then... I start my watchguard of Murray tomorrow. You know by any chance where does he live?

I love him❤

@@NataliaMartan You love a proud Conservative Bigot. Only Peter Tatchell talks sense. Wake up.

does he really have to wear a rainbow tie, we know by just looking at you what you are

he lies about a lot of things.

@@ZaydDepaor Name one.

@@thebeatcreeper First, that is total rubbish. Holohauxing is both a true thing and statement - it's also rubbish.Just like implying Jews had a choice in the holocaust, a true statement but also entirely - rubbish. Try again.

I completely disagree that he's "Honest". He contorts truth to suit his narrative just like any other great linguist. He is incredibly convincing, he's very assertive and does make strong statements, supported by evidence usually. However, you can't read through Neoconservatism; Why we need it, without realising that he's a bit like the man with the mini moustache. Very charismatic, very driven in his opinion, but only able to pull the wool over your eyes if you already had your head buried in the sand. He's a bigot, with an oppressive personality and some misanthropic ideals to match. But still the most respectable member on this panel. 😅

Who is he? He's clearly so deep in the closet he's best mates with Mr Tumnus.

She's an asylum patient

Ava is upset that men don't want to breed with her. I would personally rather have a baby with Lucy Letby.

She's clearly unhinged with a pathological hatred of men, at best she's a "Craptivist"!

Imagine being trapped in a lift for a couple of hours with her.

some quo feminist producer got her on and scares away decent amount of the audience.

Probably spoilt as a child, got everything she wanted and still clueless!

Her only reply was she made the same money.

I just love it when she gets offended! Sign of a job well done by the guys 😂😂

I'm a woman & she doesn't speak for me

You transphobe! How dare you misgender her as a woman! She (or It) identifies as an idiot!

From a fellow teacher, I send my support. I was told by a controversial colleague, "Keep your head up."

When people ask 'how do you know it's not just a handful of teachers', this is how. The ones who refuse to participate in this are driven out of the profession and the ones currently graduating with education degrees are being trained to teach this stuff. How can you sit there and claim it's a handful when we're replacing traditional teachers with 'progressive' ones by the thousands every year.

Good for her.

That's terrible, your wife has been treated very badly. Its shocking what is going on in schools.

Good riddance to your wife. What difference did it make to her to go along with the wishes of a child. Should have just concentrated on teaching.

Yet so typical of the left!

This journalist chick its a joke of a woman 😂😅

100%

She's a moron

She has no couth. It was satisfying to see her make a fool of herself while Douglas remains composed. He's brilliant!

Silly cow ain't she!

That's what feminists and liberals do, throw out accusations bc they can't debate w facts instead of feelings😢

What's her name. She's awful

All these sinister lefties do the same thing. I had Left wing “friends” who would do the exact same thing, when they were losing an argument they’d get personal.

Typical

Humanity reached its heyday in the 80s and is now degenerating and going backwards as society becomes ever more feelings and emotionally engrossed that reason, science and statistics are discarded.

​@@greyman6353Grammar was better in the eighties, too.

Everything I learnt about my high school teacher's private life made me want to puke.

I used to think teachers are human beings who were put on earth just to teach children. Didn't think they even had families. Not that I was taught that but it's just how impersonal our relationship with teachers was.

I still remember bumping into 2 of my teachers who had been to the local pub by my grandfathers after a rugby match and they were plastered. I didn't care, they were usually happy and approachable in school as it was, so them just being more happy seemed not out of character. But the next Monday when I saw them they apologised to me and asked that I not mention it if I could as it looked bad and they wanted to set a good example for their students. There was nothing they did that was really bad in any way, they were just happy for a Welsh win against England, and who wouldn't be (bloody English lol), but they still wanted to keep their personal lives out of school and help educate by example as well as their subject matter (Maths and English in this case). How far things have fallen since then, they want to lead by example, bad example and of a way to personal nature that has no place in school.

He was to sharp for her and it showed.

I felt embarrassed for her. I thought to myself, what planet is she from?

"Women" is plural.. honestly, can't anyone write proper English anymore? By the way, I am not a native English speaker

@@kotsaris87 Are you a grammar snob or troll? ^_^ ah well, good luck with whatever the case may be.

She couldn’t properly refute his statements so she merely resorted to calling him a fear stoking bigot. These people cannot withstand any legitimate form of criticism simply because their ideological views are so horribly irrational and distorted in their very nature.

She always does that. I think Piers and certain others have her on their panels because they make such fools of themselves they demolish their own so-called arguments.

Not only shocking, it is disgusting. Unfortunately it is going on for decades!!!

Exactly

(We need much more reasonable people like Douglas Murray) Good luck with that. Schools and Uni's are hot beds of woke and trans extremists, including the school & uni chancellors and administrators.

@@rawforyou5514 As Douglas warns, the self-destructive nihilistic nature of the Trans Activist movement is already seeing public support for gay marriage begin to wane as more and more pedophilic examples and blatant misogyny are exposed to public awareness. I can see where Jim Caviezel is coming from when he suggests the "pride" flag was chosen as an improper rainbow because children like, and like to draw, rainbows - and because rainbows signify innocence (which is very much the opposite of what the pride flag signifies today).

it is too late for reasoning its time for actions!!

HAHAHA precisely, and it's rude to call her out on it and makes you a bigot for doing so.

“She” certainly seems to have an abundance of male energy, a very unattractive trait.

I thought its first mistake was trying to identify as human. Clearly a Fembot though.

She's a professional clown.

😂😂😂😂

And now she’s whining that she might continue the career that Douglas very correctly told her didn’t even exist.

She looks like she was going to break down at 2:49

She also hates men, and I mean hate. Full of hate.

He's a whiny moron. People who don't see that are nothing but children.

Eva has discovered her talent finally victim what a pos love Douglas

Still CPS is involved today. Its just they will come after the parents not the pedos.

For the majority it still is child abuse.

@@JG-us9lu that is true it’s just a matter of getting the people in the positions that enable this garbage out of those positions. The silent majority really needs to start speaking up even more so and crush this is fast as possible.

It absolutely IS child abuse and it’s way past time this ideology was stopped. What happened to child safeguarding and adult responsibility?

CPS is corrupt and incompetent

The issue is marxism and the notion that it's okay to target children with all their mindbending theatrics.

One now needs a “woketionary” to keep up with the squads of pronouns and other oddball words. Fringe words like binary, cisgender, heteronormative and transsexual have broken the bounds of perverted academic and philosophical thought.

@@CertifiedSIMP-ef4oo think I'll save my money on that dictionary 😅

@@CertifiedSIMP-ef4oo Perfectly said! Woketionary, that’s it. I know I can’t keep up with this Orwellian word fuckery. It’s exhausting.

LGB paved the way for this madness. Homosexuality should be made illegal. Let states police as they choose.

He should have been sacked with immediate effect, disgusting that these morons are allowed anywhere near kids..it's abuse of the highest order.

The teacher should be sacked instantly

The issue is Universities. They are hot bed for this nonsense. They are pro socialism/communism they are pushing woke, hard left politics and eventually these students go into the real world and spread it. This is exactly what that whistle blower ex KGB agent said would happen.

This sort of crap has been going on for decades, the left are experts at infiltrating schools and brainwashing youngsters.

​@@stevedawg9588I was talking with my mate who's had kids about this and questioned whether it's the teacher fault or whether it's part of the syllabus they're told to teach by the state

We all know that Piers Morgan doesn't need a panel to discus issues, he is the fount of all knowledge and the others just take up time better used by Piers to educate us.

@@davidtuer5825 Sounds like he drive you nuts as much as he does me. The guy is grifting as much as the other two. It would have been better if he set aside he playground level debating skill and just let Douglas destroy these fools.

Arguing for objective reality is easy work lol. Mental gymnastics takes time and effort.

She was probably put there to talk over Douglas.

Totally. But he still won the argument imo - easily.

​@@greglp970there's a difference

If more gay people where down to earth like him, I’d fully support them but sadly they aren’t

@@hansjones5708he’s gay? Lol who knew 😂

@@jacobbrumbaugh6928because his entire life doesn't revolve around his sexuality or identity.

@@jacobbrumbaugh6928 yes he is gay if you need clarification

It makes me sad that so many women are worse misogynists than men.

She is the feminist PC brigade the type that treats men like shit and gets away with it she is the reason why the world is in this mess today trash like her have destroyed so many children with this gender crap

The alphabet mafia always knew they could play to the female by having males try and be females. At first it was an ego boost and flattering but now they are established you are seeing negative outcomes for females. It’s almost as if straight males had told you from the jump that this would happen but you called us all ‘bigots’ for trying to warn you.

The real question is, do they have children themselves or are they trying to do it to other people's children?

She brought up they were both getting paid the same for that show aswell, iam sure he would do it for nothing.

I wouldn't call projecting your own feelings against a movement citing an unrelated study to support your view as a rational basis of debate.... but any who....

That's how they debate. It's why they're so easy to crush in an argument. It's like dealing with toddlers.

as a woman from asia, i find her and most western women humiliating... its disappointing that the world has ended up with all this nonsense... i support the lgbtq+ thing but forcing sociopolitics onto children is where i cross the line. politics and especially sociopolitics should never be fed to children, if they wanna be gay then let them, but dont force them! everyone has a right to choose their sexuality (and yes its sexuality not gender, there are only 2 god given genders and if you dont like it then take it up with GOD), but nobody has a right to force their own ideals, worldviews, or politics on anyone else. edit: i dont agree with that old fart, sex and gender is the same damn thing. hes confusing sexuality for gender, which it isnt.

Typical liberal woman here; whines about being interrupted, but both times Douglas speaks she’s running her mouth interrupting him.

That's Morgan for you. I wish he'd have just shut up and let Douglas loose on these idiots. But then he's only interested in himself... I don't think he even cares about the subject matter.

@babbycatt1017 Oh wow is that Peter Tatchell the P.I E. supporter?! I'm American so I have no idea what he looks like but I've read some of his writing. Absolute creep.

@@NMemone Yeah that's him. Started off with good intentions around gay rights, but if ever there was an archetypal example of St. George in retirement syndrome... he's it.

ikr

Exactly!

Yes, why don't they see it.

She does not seem well read. Her remarks always seem to have been structurreed via short cuts and click bait and a title sentence. That does not make a person informed or educated on a topic.

She's typical, talking over everyone and being aggressive. She's a delusional idiot, believing that simply because she's a woman she is right and justified.

She’s going to embarrassed of herself later on.. I don’t always agree with people like Douglas, in fact it’s rare, but the backlash he speaks of is real. Especially here in the states. We’re all sick of this stuff dominating debates. And it’s already changing laws. UAB in Alabama used to be a regional hub for trans healthcare, now it is illegal. It went on for years and years with no problem, even with public funding, until the culture war made everyone hyper reactive. This obsession is bad for us all, especially for LGBTQ+ whatever it goes by now.

She can't respond to the topic so she attacks Douglas for things that have no basis in reality. Really Stupid.

Well, in her defense, she is a blonde.

typical libtard

She's works on a Political youtube channel that simps for labour

Im gay man... and I agree that the insane minority has taken over and is making it far worse for everyone... why is it always white women, like Ava, who feel they have every right to speak for everyone? Out of the 30 or so people in my circle of acquaintances and friends not one of us are on board with any of this gender nonsense... yet here's Ava using us to further her argument as she attacks Douglas' points.

just a quick one so you can be concise in future. It's called "Ad Hominem"

@@jackgallagher4146

Just off!!

They're not invited on to present arguments. They're there to help Sky News stoke the culture wars & get a rise out of imbeciles like you.

She’s wrong, but Douglas is a absolute bellend. Insufferable little man

Yes, she always gets furious if someone disagrees with her.

Well he did say she didn't have a career 😂

She is vile with equally vile views !

"you haven't even built a career, have you?"

not even a Blonde

She said on twitter she wanted to castrate white men.

Ava is terrible

"you haven't even built a career, have you?"

@@domingorodriguez3077 That is a defense. Not the same as an attack.

​@@domingorodriguez3077she hasnt

@@domingorodriguez3077 She wouldn't even look sideways at you Domingo no matter how much symping you try do for her lol

@@rpotuathail9471 bruh who wants her? you? im good. go back to taking selfies in your mirror

Typical modern woman. Masculine belligerant behaviour but then plays victim when called out

Exactly it, there fumbling over themselves with simple questions, they are not that hard to run into the ground in a debate sense

Didn't get a chance to with Piers interrupting him with stupid questions. Why is this random guy being beholden to one random article from the BBC? Stupid.