Good analyzing

who’s joe

Not Rafael JOE MAMA

emo snail who’s joe mama?

That moment when that was his character in gossip girl too o.O

Carla Petcu erm you have almost 1k likes but no comments

@@bumsmacker4334 lol

Yep

… but, i think i know you

THISSSSSSSSSS 😂

BAHAHHAHA literally

aka every middle schoolers thoughts when they have crushes 😭

he said it later in the show

Aka, the guy who thinks everyone has crush on him

she literally got fucked by that window many times too lmaoo and its new york city!! there's people in the street at all times

and live in nyc for all places

not having any curtains is definitely weird in her living situation but I honestly don't see what's wrong with walking around in a towel in front of a window. A bath towel literally covers more skin than the actual outfits some people wear in public and who's really gonna bother to close the curtains every single time they take a shower??

It was part of her character,she was insecure and wanted to be seen

It’s like she asks to be stalked 🤦🏽‍♀️

Clementine Winchester The no curtains bothered me the whole season

Yeah, would be less irritating if she's on the 2nd floor and he has to climb a tree to spy on her.

i just had my phone stolen last week and i had no way to do that i hadda change all my passwords by hand and remember all my passwords with 0 help like geezus i honestly at one point just hoped it would turn up lol google doesnt help for nothin... and googles great.i cant imagine if i had frickin apple

@@pjslae I would have gone crazy without my phone.

After I saw this show I saw this show I got a number code on my phone to be safe.

"You wont sound like a stalker to me!" He probably doesn't even understand the word.

That's the joke in the film

Joe: what’s wrong with stalkers!?!?!?

Hes a yandere lol

Kinda the point they make that joke several times in the show

And better yet, the actor who plays Joe (Penn Badgley) doesn't try to justify the action of his character and keep reminding the fans that Joe's a problematic character.

Thanks for not saying 500 days, that movie already gets too much hate.

Exactly... They don't try to hide it...

Cough cough Miraculous Ladybug (show for KIDS) cough cough ...

@@roxaroo wait what’s wrong with miraculous ?

What is the problem lol he's just a.nice guy

Also, he makes his voice deeper to say "DEVILS TANGO" is just so funny😂😂😂😂

He also says that because people can get in trouble by KZfaq if they say that if they do not have exactly 30 million or more subscribers

And *Firetrucks* instead of fvck.

@@jamiestanway4530 yeah :)

Nice guy

The fact that this is an actual line

I mean, he might not be wrong...

I honestly enjoyed the show

@Burnt Orange because he treats men and women equally, he kills them both. Plus, he didn't let his love for beck stand in the way of her greatness

i don't get why this isn't getting any replies so...

also why we need to stay off of social media lol.. especially season 2

bijjeslikepeaches thats my thought. But then again I did have a neighbor across from me in my old apt complex that would change with her blinds open all the time.

Also y u needa private ur ig account

fried chicken the comments are so little

yeah lol, I think the irony of that is suppose to show how how he projects himself and his issues onto others. kind of like people will make fun of insecurities on others that they have themselves

@John John Uhh.. Joe is supposed to be the villain of the show, its not because he's the protagonist that he can't be a villain. And he's clearly written as a villain on purpose, you re blind If you can't see that

@@garciasymbiote3799 I’m about to finish season 1 and what I’m curious about is how they will end things for Joe. I mean obviously he’s the villain but he’s also the protagonist. I’m curious about what they’ll do. I mean a good ending for him is unsatisfying but so is a bad one? 😂

"another"

best comment over here.

Xoxo, Gossip Girl

The thing I never understood was, HOW THE FUCK DID LONELY BOY GET A GIRLFRIEND after literally saying so much shit about her and the whole gossip girl page on just them!!! Maybe, lonely boy is just as creepy as he is in you and it's the same person with just different names

HAHAHAHA

money you spoiled brat.

I mean there are different definitions for him...thing is,he's mentally ill,from all the trauma he went through as a kid,he doesnt think he's being bad,he's just too desperate for any love that he becomes delusional.

Darc Hart94 and killing *

Most bad characters know they're bad and they love being bad. Joe however has the purest intentions and doesn't realize. I think he's not bad, he just does bad things. In the end, his motives are to help the people he loves (Beck and Paco), he just goes about everything the wrong way

Melodi Marston Man where have you been living? You honest to God think Hitler thought he was evil when he was killing Jews? You think he was doing that to become a super villain? No, every single evil person I the hero of their own story. The Hitler comparison is extreme, but it was to make the point that even Hitler viewed himself as a hero. Very few people do things because they think it’s evil. The same way terrorists bomb places in the name of God. Joe is a bad person BECAUSE he does bad things. His intentions are irrelevant.

Im fairly certain that situations considered extremely creepy in real life is 30% of all romcoms. I once saw a movie called The Lucky One where Zac Efron played a soldier coming home back from war, searching for this one girl he found a picture of on his dead teammate during the war and he considered a lucky charm. He moves across from the girl and keeps on spying at her through the windows, which I found creepy but the movie portrays it like its supposed to be romantic.

LMFAO FR 💀😂

it’s a tv show

Shit like this makes me glad I'm average-looking, ace/aro and have no interest in doing the old *devil's tango...* Not that it would stop creeps from creeping, but at least I won't fall for them and validate their actions. 😬

@@Safiyahalishah you'd be surprised how many predators were friends with their victim before they tried some shit.

Lmaooo

how you can love him?

@@lizbeth6141 well not LOVE him but hope he doesnt get caught

@@karensmith8911 what ???why??? I was queasy seeing him the whole time...

@@mugdhapataskar8013 IT SWITCHES- i want him to get caught but also dont at the same time-

Sick

Idk I know alot of parents who would. They respect whatever their child wants to called. It's their identity and they want them to feel comfortable. Stupid? Yes. Unrealistic? No.

My parents call me by my last name

No not really I know plenty of parents who do that

Some parents will use the nicknames, but more often, it seems like parents call you the one name you don’t use, that no one else calls you.

@@kimberlyoldschool This.

Crafty Club like damn chile

IK Like curtains cannot be that expensive

i can actually explain this!! ive read the original book the series is based on. Basically, a big part of beck’s character (explained by joe) is that shes an attention seeker. She LIKES the risk. she WANTS to be seen

Ally J that makes soooo much more sense. they should have explained that on Netflix. that scene literally pissed me offff. Like how tf u having sex with the with no curtains to cover. It was as if she wanted the world to know what she was doing, then act all surprised when she attracts a psycho. 😂

@@hanab4292 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdioasmEp93admg.html he actually says something like that, from 00:13

Simi B that’s pretty normal cos I think she was downstairs. No one thinks people will actually watch them

@@ComedyGlor nah that was her whole apartment as a whole

Abbyy Wabbyy it’s still pretty normal

@@ComedyGlor Yea ik but for me that ain't normal. My Windows and blinds are always shut especially at night cuz YOU is a good example of what happens when your window is just exposed so. For some ppl that's normal but for me nope. That's the exact reason shit started happening to shawty, she was mad open with her nonsense. Yea he stalked her but she made shit so easy for him.

Abbyy Wabbyy that’s ridiculous. He still would’ve stalked her whether she made it easy for him or not. Yh she probably should’ve got blinds, but the fact that she didn’t neither encouraged her stalker, nor made him into a stalker in the first place. Nice try trying to victim blame though 🙄

Gotta love being a woman.

Is he the same guy in ur profile pic

@@ahmedzahraoui2708 HAHAHAHA nope, profile pic guy is my boyfriend.

Step 1: make sure your living space has curtains :)

@@darkartsninja fair

So he actually did her a favor I mean atleast she wrote the book and got famous before dying lol

Peach would have lived atleast

@@shana-kaychin9458 fuck peach, she ruined becks life to begin with.

Isn't it funny first he saved her from almost dying and atlast he killed her himself...

@UCrkbSXpcIoutAOO18cWgTFw no, fuck beck, not peach

Because they're easy to hate but have depth and it's interesting to see

Same.. Even after s2

The characters were great

Cornelia S imma just say Delilah and Ellie were the only s2 side characters I could stand

I liked Love, Ellie, and Delilah. Hell I even liked Peach because the actress did a great job portraying her.

Paavani Lal Das i can’t 😂

Paavani Lal Das I read the book yet never watched the movie

_heart of gold_ _heart of gold_ ??? yellow *red flag* _heart of gold_ *red flag* *red flag* *red flag* _regular heart_ *red flag* Can't wait for season 2 😂😂

How to Groom 101

That’s the point

Nuuuuu paco 😭😭😭

and I love that

Zero Nava There we go

Yeah but its Pacos mothers fault. She failed a lot

uhhh spoilers

That's the point. You see into the eyes of the stalker/killer, and they can justify absolutely everything they do, sometimes so well that you actually sympathize with THEM over their victims.

Thats a FACT

I think he’s a fun character. Obviously he’s a bad person, but if people are stupid to the point that they can’t tell the difference between enjoying a fictional character and a real human being, than I don’t know what to say.

@@someblonde5289 stfu, Joe is a homie

Hated the character even with the narrative.

I honestly don't know. At some parts of the series I loved her, at some I hated her, and I always sympathized a lot with her because of how often she got hurt all while being stalked and manipulated by a psychopath who she thought was the person she could trust the most. So I just appreciate her as a character who isn't black and white, but very real and flawed.

It's a slow descent for me. At first I really liked her, but then she slowly built up her L meter and by the end I was not a fan of her at all. It would probably have been a different story if they did monologue scenes like Joe but they didn't so...

I mean....they also never made anything exclusive either? Lol. But when they did and she cheated that was wrong.

I didn’t like her but I felt really bad when she died. She’s a very realistic character and her life was messy but Joe didn’t have the right to do what he did

She was a realistic character. She had so many flaws, but right to the end I was hoping she’d get better. I think she was very well witten

@Paulo Eclectik there you go CHAMP 😂

Sounds like New York to me

LMAO I-

Amen. She wanted to be seen at that point wtf

@Content Corrector lol its new york. people do that in the park all the time

NIce guys are really creepy. that's why they finish last

@@herohour6496 true

She had lots of issues too, but she never realised he was a stalker during most of the time, so it's not like she was dismissing his stalking because he was hot. But he certainly had a creepy vibe and even forgetting the creep he was, his intense and 24/7 presence in her life trying to please was just too overbearing.

Yeah its so sad because he's fine but um a little crazy 😕

@@herohour6496 Lol and bad guys will beat the shit out of you. 😂😂😂😂

Joe is me when I try to diet and tell myself I'm a changed person and will not eat edibles and hit up Jack in the Box at 11pm

@@juliannehannes11 😂😂😂

I know!! Like he is literally a psychopath and people are just like "aw he's so cute". I will say though I love how the actor responds to comments like "I want a Joe" and he just goes "no. he's a psychopath and a stalker. he's not the good guy, stop."

@@petrarajewski5255 sociopath*

@@petrarajewski5255 everyone who says they want joe deserve what's coming to them when a joe in real life gets attracted to them. They missed the entire point of the character (which is hard to do because getting the point of joe is literally the purpose of the show).

Kristy Bleh what do you mean? He was such a gentlemen. Beck was trippin

He was a bad guy but unlike every other bad guy he doesn’t know he’s one. He have pure intentions and does everything for the people he loves so in one way I kinda want him to get better but he definitely should get caught before he keeps killing people

Yep, especially after the mid season episode.

Idk there is probably something wrong with me but I feel like he makes an amazing bf

I mean yeah he fucks up but he's hot and Intrested and loves her he does what he thinks is right for her

@@Louise-kl7ow I think he's toxic af, imagine your bf killing/threatening people he thinks aren't good for you. He would be super controlling and dangerous as well, stalkers never make good boyfriends, they are absolut creeps and nothing more

He did to Paco the same the old guy did to him: Brainwashed and manipulated him to become a perfect "son".

I disagreed with light from the beginning. Not so much for killing criminals because to be honest I think we are waisting way to many resources that would be better allocated someone else keeping these very dangerous people alive. I more so hated his goal of becoming "God".

@@petelee2477 right he did choose to use the book to feed his god complex so I totally agree. I don’t think I finished death note when I typed this comment 😂

@@aak173 you didn't need to finish. The first episode he talked about wanting to be the god of a new world. Literally 5 seconds after picking up the book.

I mean even before Light went on his whole crazy killing spree (disguised as a justice spree) it kind of was already obvious that he was not a good guy even from Episode 1.

Exactly, and I think that's what makes this so different from other shows, because the protagonist is essentially the antagonist but because it's written from his POV, the audience kind of sympathizes with him, even if what he's doing is so wrong.

@@Lena-zn4re You can't be the protagonist and the antagonist at the same time. The protagonist is simply the main character. The antagonist is simply the person who opposes the protagonist. There is no good/evil component in their definitions in regards to media. This is literally taught in middle-school English lol.

he is both. he opposes himself @@ruberipi6811

@@hulietmoreno5851 Lol no. The protagonist cannot be both the main character and not the main character. I think you should go back to grade school English 😂😂

what are you even talking about dude? "the protagonist cannot be both the main character and not the main character" my dude, he is both a protagonist and an antagonist. going by your definition of what those are, he's a main character, but he also opposes himself. JESUS

sfkakathatkid I was like, this girl is a lost cause. Dumbass didn’t even have curtains

Thirstae For Tae it could easily happen to anyone unless you’ve already been in an abusive relationship

Glox Ali It could easily be able to not have curtains what I’m confused

@@zahrah8512 well she OBVIOUSLY didnt know that she was gonna get stalked cos most people dont you weirdo. And i'm pretty sure he looked up her house address or something so nothing she did at that point would've mattered

Jim Johnson At most, a exhibitionist lol

Yes this!! This is why I liked the show so much. I enjoyed watching in horror and fascination as Joe went further and further away from redemption but still got to see why he thought his actions were justified

Joe will love you beck (as in back, get it?) 😱

Yeah I saw that from an other comment

nah at this point y’all reaching

But I don’t want his love

Or... You Will Love Joe ! :o

Hair? He said air!

@@JOEL-mm7th hair

Oh I love that part 😂😂😂😂

Ikr

Love ur profile picture im pan too

Nah you should watch the show. The we end up rooting for Joe is because even tho he is a crazy stalking sociopath, he isn’t heartless. He “tries” to do the right thing. He won’t kill a child or have malicious intent towards them, and he helped the little boy because (spoiler warning) he himself was abused as a child. There is no ulterior motive with children. That’s what makes him great cause he’s not a one dimensional villain - he has some humanity which is what has stopped the audience from hating him.

@@Psych0He4d I have watched it and it doesn't make him any better to me

@@Ireallyneedamanlikeyuta9163 fair enough

Joe isn't a psychopath. If you seen season 1 and 2, you can easily say that Joe is a man who crave for love, a person who has the need to be loved but he can't be loved, because never felt love. Joe didn't kill all those people because of his own pleasure, he did them because that was his definition of 'Love'. Love is when you sacrifice yourself to protect the other. And that's what Joe did apparently, he just took it too literate. An average psychopath would just kill a person for their own pleasure, what Joe did was kill people for protecting his "lover". His twisted definition of love is what drives him crazy because he never experience actual love and when Beck tries to address what actual love is, he tries to acknowledge it but easily fails in season 2. He is more like a sociopath who think's highly of themselves, who thinks they are the only suitable people for his love interest.

@Rain spirit sounds like you need to re-read what I commented because I just only stated how he isn't a psychopath but a sociopath

Jjajaja lets face it...some curtains wouldnt have stopped this psycho

aristides s none would’ve lmao

Nah. It would have been harder for him but he would have stalked her still

Adventurous Allison if joe didnt stalk her she would die way sooner from the train so no matter how you look at it beck was dying

That wouldn’t have stopped him 💀💀💀

I KNOW RIGHT I was like dude what do you think your doing? You really think it's different?😂🙃

Chelsea Bishh I mean... Thats literally a part of his characteristics, the scene portrays it.

ASPD, the mental gymnastics are insane, he doesn't have any guilt because he's the one that's "right"

lol thats what makes me kinda see this as more of a Dark comedy at times. Cause obviously we all are gonna think "you're doing the same thing" which was pretty funny.

He’s delusional. The scary part is there are people like this

I wanted to hate him and I was disturbed by what he was doing, but whenever he got close to getting caught, I got really nervous and hoped he'd find a way out

@@DwynTwo I know, right?! It's such a weird feeling!

It call good looking’s private people getting blindly when someone is hot they shouldn’t choose a good looking dude like him to play a psycho

I like Joe he's relatable

Fr

H OH MY GOOD ME TOO!

I cried like serious laughter tears

H. Same. I laughed way too hard

Impossible to keep from laughing when Benji gets hit and that squeaky toy sound comes out!!!!

Same

come through wow you pretty much nailed it

Nailed it❤️ and that’s why I like this show

So... it's a show about a nice guy, and his crush. Or what internet leads one to believe those are like.

@@cyryl3827 anyone with a brain would know he's not a good guy lol, he's clearly manic...

@@ComedyGlor "nice guy" A guy who claims to be a nice person, often claims only assholes get chicks, and himself is a total shite

Lol

Hehehehehahahahahhahhahahahahaha

I can already smell the merch

Oh peach.. she gets hers

I haven't seen it, I can tell I would hate them all equally.

@@tamil8108 at least one of them is redemabable

Maybe so, but from the clips, the dialogue is just horrible. My gripe from the little I have seen is they make the surrounding characters more insufferable to make the killer appealing. It's what they do with plenty of these serial killer shows. If you're going to make a show about a killer, don't pussyfoot into it, go balls out. Make the protagonist the killer and show why you should hate him. The victims should be the connection to the audience from the killers POV and the killer should be hated. Enough making douche bag victims and cast. Make them real. Empathetic with fucking natural dialogue. Lol hearing the psuedo-intellectual shit like Gone Girl dialogue with so much pretention, it just turns me off.

@@tamil8108 I just binge watched the show in one night and if I hadn't perhaps i'd be saying the same thing as you. However after watching it, I realised it is quite incredible and genius and that's because we're no meant to see his victims. Too often does media grow fond in showing us psychopathic killers as the be all or end all of the crazy. These victims being taken out by a mad person, but our fascination comes in exploring the wider world of poor mental health. It is not often that you get a show that so accurately portrays a sociopath, which is the reason why the show can be uncomfortable and unflattering to the victims, because if you don't watch it from his POV, then you're going to miss the type of psychotic that he is. Contrary to your opinion I think the show goes incredibly balls deep into the mind of a killer, the mind of a textbook sociopath, he can't see beyond the face value of those around him, he can't follow social norms, he lies and decieves, he can't make long term plans etc. The way he sees people, and in turn the audience sees them, is the key to his true horror. There's an episode where he does switch perspectives with Beck and in that one episode you really understand that she's normal, the audience gets a break from Joe's psuedo-intellectual prattling and you get a sense of quiet sanity for the audience. I think that episode is executed perfectly, because you truly realise how much noise, analysing and unnatuarly strong opinions Joe has. It's the unbridled crazy of a sociopath, that will never be justifiable. Regardless, of what others say the show does not glorify Joe, or make him any less of a horrible killer, in fact it very much expresses his awful actions and though there is some good in his actions to the boy Paco we must understand that they are self-motivated and not once does he actually feel a desire to 'help' Paco. Yes, we get a moment of sympathy seeing him chained as a young man in the cellar of books, and although those moments imprinted some very dangerous and strong opinions into his mind. His reactions are less than normal. My point is, there's an actual depth to the show and it is well executed. I believe you should give it a chance before you put it down to 'douche bag victims and an empathetic killer'.

Saàme haha

I want a shirt with his animation and a caption of "DEVILS TANGO"

Ouch

LMFAO

Welp time to go jump in that hole I dug

I love the show, "You".

Russ Singh but I mean when u think about it that could make it worse cuz u know the show is about a man staling a girl he likes..... that’s a yikes😬

Hahaha

🤣🤣🤣

He probs killed serena after they married

Lmao

Haha

Creative Dreamer yeah but the difference is that although we’re supposed to sympathise with Joe it’s very clear from the beginning (or at least from the end of episode one) that he is a creep and genuinely a bad guy. In twilight Edward is presented as a (read: THE ULTIMATE) good guy.

Twilight is just an example were the stalking and manipulation worked.

I wouldn’t go THAT far haha

Have you read Lolita? The villain narrates the story, and it almost makes you think that the events portrayed there are romantic or cute, when they are not, same thing here, You is obviously not nearly as good as Lolita, but the way it’s written, makes you simpatice with the bad guy, even though they don’t hide the fact that he is the bad guy, in Twilight, the vampire is an abusive stalker, but even the writer thinks that he is a nice guy, the Prince Charming.

Danny Martínez Lolita is such a good example of this! Such a s good book

SAME

-Euphoric love killed 3 (the ones we know) She killed Delilah, Candace, and Sophia (Fourty’s girlfriend from when they were young)

I literally stood on my bed and screamed when I found out Love was crazy as shit too!!!!!

FUCKING SPOILERS

SPOILERS MAN UGH

Anhedonian Nugget dude it’s been like a month you should’ve watched it by now

No same

OMG YES

Joe's little commentary every now and then is hilarious!

No, you're not

when i watched the first season i'd pictured the show going a whole different path if joe said what he was thinking

Really?

She's a nice person, an "intellectual" who I guess is supposed to be smart, and she's pretty. She ain't special or anything, but it's not too far fetched for guys to be drawn to her.

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 She isn't a nice person, btw, she cheated on Joe, she is annoying and full of herself, she lied about her dad to all her friends ¿ the only reason i found is bc she is pretty and somehow friendly with people¿

@@Mar_422 I didn't know that. Idk I guess what I mean is that she seems nice when you first meet her. I haven't watched the show yet.

No one loves her. Her character is pretty blander.

Queen Maknae yeah my dads actually dead so that irked the living shit out of me, but that might just be me

Honestly, can you blame them?

If I knew her, I would give her some curtains for Christmas..

beck literally hates privacy i dont blame them for complaining about the lack of curtains

including yours.

Isn't Ellie the Paco in that season. Season 3 was Henry and Juliette to an extent. Now Season 4 will have Nadia.

Faith Destiny YEAH! it’s so weird because it’s like, you want him to get caught cause he’s an awful person, but like, at the same time, YOU DON’T

It's this that actually makes it hard for me to decide whether I love or hate this show. I love how complexly it manipulates the viewer's emotions to the characters from a technical standpoint, but at the same time, I hate that it does this in the context of such a creepy psycho.

It’s called the tragic hero. He is a villain yet he makes the audience seem like he’s the victim. It’s like Shakespeares hamlet and how even though hamlet is slowly going crazy and killing people for revenge the audience sees him as the hero of the play because he’s the victim

It’s called the tragic hero. He is a villain yet he makes the audience seem like he’s the victim. It’s like Shakespeares hamlet and how even though hamlet is slowly going crazy and killing people for revenge the audience sees him as the hero of the play because he’s the victim

Honetstly that's my pet peeve when it comes to characters XD "Oh hey this character is a creepy murderous stalker, but hey this benji guy is a walking stereotype so our stalker isn't as bad eh?"

It's also a disadvantage because then I sound like a stalker to everyone who asks what I'm watching lmao

Omg like: hey so do you watch something like a TV series, anime and stuffs Me: yeah, I'm watching you...

@@kendra5781 hey so you watch Wanda vision right? I know very random question, it's annoying, was just asking

@@ikeepscreamingbutgodwontan3132 I watch Wanda Vision as well lol

@@randomgirl9048 lol I think it's pretty famous so most of us have already seen it

I'm at episode 7 and I literally forgot her name was Guinevere and I thought it was Rebecca and Beck was a short form...

This

I was thinking this😂

DasPikachu same lol

@@99xara99 pretty sure her name was Rebecca in the book

CoinOpTV true 😂

He looks like his character is just as blah too...

He is 32 I m pretty sure that is young

@@MA-yc7pz not in Hollywood lol

CoinOpTV love that

Kit Kate I DIDNT THINK THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE THAT SAW DAN THE WHOLE DAMN TIME

Funny thing is he was the GOSSIP GIRL making himself popular.

This is definitely who Dan would grow up into. He was the worst.

@@cutielol0 maybe in the show but not in the books. Dan was never intended to be Gossip Girl and if you go back there are tons of reasons why he couldn't be, mainly because of plot

😭😂

Good point! I think that's why she spotted right away that Joe was a creep. Of course she felt jealous and all because she was obsessed by Beck and would do anything to trash talk him to Beck, but at the same time I think she spotted him and that's why she was always so suspicious of him. He's her male version.

you just blew my mind

Lily G I like the way you think

I’m going to be one hundred percent honest with you... I thought that Peach and Joe would end up together since they’re both stalkers and well...IDK, kinda seems like something that would happen in a show like this...

I thought they were going to do stalk games kinda. See who can outwit the other.

Alucard ReavaN Yup, but this isn’t a romance. It’s a satirical thriller.

white guy of narnia It can be both things. Romance is the force driving the plot. The satire hides in Joe’s narrative musings and the implicit social commentary the show makes. So I’d say both genre descriptors are fitting.

white guy of narnia Oh sure, they’re often used to display how conceited, arrogant, contemptuous, narcissistic or deluded he is. That’s the design behind them. But sometimes, in my mind, they’re also used to satirise both his behaviour and social biases; when Joe’s forced to hide behind the shower curtain of Beck’s bathtub because she nearly catches him spying in her flat, he says “I’m not gonna get caught. I’ve seen enough movies to know things like that don’t happen to guys like me” (comments like that fall under satirical meta-commentary); when he’s commenting in his mind on something her friends said he thinks “Sometimes I think I’m the only feminist you know”, which frames him as the classic, unself-aware Nice Guy TM; when he spots Peach spying on Beck taking a bath, while he’s doing the same thing, he muses “Look at her! She’s invading your privacy! That’s disgusting”,which is the writers’ way of satirising his hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness. There are probably plenty more examples, but I haven’t seen the show in a year, and my memory sucks.

white guy of narnia 😊

Personally, I think it'd make the show better Can you imagine? You look outside and just see Danny DeVito.

Tania Scheuermann your so right I mean all joe did was kill a few people once in a while 🙄🙄🙄

They try to label her as somewhat intelligent but she was extremely dumb and naive throughout the whole show.

Joe found his ultimate victim.

Do not could not agree with you more, she was oblivious to joe and peach manipulating her and yet she is called the smart one! Oh please peach was so much smarter than she is, she knew instantly that joe is a psychopath (because lets face it, she is one too)

The amount of victim blaming there seems to be around this show(haven't watched it myself) is terrible especially considering the majority of the fandom is women. No wonder it was the way it was for us for centuries.

Watch Dexter

Is it really a trope? I hardly ever find a good show where the protagonist is a bad guy. I mean its always some anti-hero bullshit.

Watch Death Note as well, does the trope really well

@@Jebu911 he tried to seem anti hero but towards the end he gets worse. Ditto death note loved that too

Idk about it being a trope. Joe doesn't really struggle with morality very much in this show. There is no slow descent into evil like in death note. Joe is just fucked. Especially in the book. If I remember correctly the little boy he gives the sandwich to doesn't exist in he novel. Joe is given even fewer redeeming characteristics in the book

Wrong, she catches him.

she literally met him once, who the fuck remembers someone they only met once?!

and its new york, u bump to peole

I have the worst memory when it comes to faces. There have been instances when people have approached me because they recognise me and I have no idea who they are.

she catches him bro 1 time

Noisselleh yup theses already “us”

Noisselleh Taylor Swift’s new single 😎😎😎😎 I’m so sorry.

And I can’t wait to see “us” even tho it been out for awhile

is this a coming out joke? if it is, it's genius lol

And don’t forget “them”

Damn it.

FRICC HES CHASING MEH

No u... Too.... Hey I'm a blind KZfaqr and I make comedy vids, please check Em out!

@@officialsatoshi9120 Oh noes

WHO TAUGHT YOU TO SAT FRICK!?!?!?!?

you’re so right!!

@@stxphrose haha thank you!

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I can't believe that part of the dialogue😂😂😂😂

Tiara Cortorreal i don’t get it 💀

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12 y/o look like THAT now