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Cuiv, The Lazy Geek

Cuiv, The Lazy Geek

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@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
My Patreon: www.patreon.com/cuivlazygeek Download www.graxpert.com/ Graxpert video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKqhqayfmrzSmZs.html PixInsight Plugin Repository A: www.ideviceapps.de/PixInsight/Utilities/ Alternative PI repo: pixinsight.deepskyforge.com/update/graxpert/ Alternative PI repo (GraXpert as a process, but it didn't work for me): pixinsight.deepskyforge.com/update/graxpert-process/ Amazon affiliate: amzn.to/49XTx01 Agena affiliate: bit.ly/3Om0hNG High Point Scientific affiliate: bit.ly/3lReu8R All-Star Telescope affiliate: bit.ly/3SCgVbV Astroshop.eu Affiliate: tinyurl.com/2vafkax8
@CDigata
@CDigata 3 ай бұрын
the process interface worked best for me.. but still used gradient correction in PI, but its great we now have options
@andreya108
@andreya108 3 ай бұрын
Cuiv, I've managed to launch GraXpert process (under linux). The problem is hardcoded lowercase executable name in plugin. It searches 'graxpert' in PATH not 'GraXpert', so I've just created symlink 'graxpert' pointing to actual GraXpert executable (in one of directories from PATH). It looks not obvious why they've not added executable selection settings (like in script).
@user-ob3dt7xs8u
@user-ob3dt7xs8u 3 ай бұрын
If they add a deconvolution AI model to compete with BXT, that will be simply legendary)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yessss!
@possisvideos
@possisvideos 3 ай бұрын
Yes please❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@40Sec
@40Sec 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see that. As good as their software is, the prices RC Astro charges is not remotely reasonable. Maybe some additional competition will force them to lower what they're asking.
@mouseylikesnuts6437
@mouseylikesnuts6437 3 ай бұрын
If it could also put my gear outside for me when it's cold that would be even better 😁
@deep_space_dave
@deep_space_dave 3 ай бұрын
Competition is always good!
@michaellewis4732
@michaellewis4732 3 ай бұрын
Cuiv, you are an amazing asset to the Amateur Astrophotography community! Thanks for providing this info and comparison.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure Michael, always happy to help :-)
@hymanmj
@hymanmj 3 ай бұрын
I've been using GraXpert for a while now, but I feel this latest version is at another level. I'm not against purchasing software that does the job at all, but if it's free...... Great video Cuiv! Thank you. :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yes it's really impressive and nothing to lose since it's free!
@TheOriginalTommo
@TheOriginalTommo 3 ай бұрын
Wait....A Cuiv video that doesn't cost me anything?? 🥳 🎊 🎉
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Hey, my videos are free! What you do after watching is something else lol
@todddunnavant5984
@todddunnavant5984 3 ай бұрын
Note that BXT and GraXpert support GPUs using different approaches. BXT can be configured to run on Windows under CUDA. From the GraXpert 3.0 docs, we have the following: For gpu acceleration during denoising, please note: on Windows, we rely on DirectML which requires a DirectX 12 compatible graphics card. On Linux, we rely on CUDA 12 and libcudnn8. On macOS, we rely on CoreML.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating, thanks for the info!
@HighBoss
@HighBoss 3 ай бұрын
Oh that's good to know. Means we can use it with AMD gpu's in windows.
@bbroastro
@bbroastro 3 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes!! More software competition is what the astro community needs - not more endless refractors and built in computers into cameras! :D
@tubedude54
@tubedude54 3 ай бұрын
Or into eyepieces... might as well just call up a picture on the net instead of looking at an object thru your scope if that's what you want to see... I prefer seeing it with my eye thru whatever scope I'm using an seeing it live... then looking at the same object thru a different scope and seeing the differences ..if any.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
It's great to see this for sure :)
@kittywampus
@kittywampus 3 ай бұрын
I Just installed and tried this about an hour ago. I haven't moved up to paid software yet, so I really like this program with siril.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@bmur56
@bmur56 3 ай бұрын
I've purchased Noise Xterminator months ago and happy to see that, in most cases, it's still on top. This free noise reduction tool is close on its heels though !
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Very close indeed!
@bbroastro
@bbroastro 3 ай бұрын
Essentially though, those that purchased Noise Xterminator (and the RC Astro plugins in general) were founders and supporters for the progression of these things! Competition only happens from those that start the initial path and we, by purchasing RC astro tools, have helped that path along 🙌
@ChristianPsencik
@ChristianPsencik 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video man. This is really an incredible leap by these guys! Geniuses indeed! 🎉
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
I agree! And it's free!
@lukomatico
@lukomatico 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting mate, that looks promising!! Great video as always 👍👍
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Luke!! Have fun playing with this tool as well!
@AlexisABermudez
@AlexisABermudez 3 ай бұрын
Viva FLOSS! many thanks for such comparison. Was still in my trial period of Noise Xterminator... just in time!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yesss! Enjoy comparing on your side as well!
@astrohops7183
@astrohops7183 3 ай бұрын
Great video Cuiv. Thanks for sharing this information. Seems to be a real alternative for those on a limited budget.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yep, for sure! I'm actually not even sure whether I'll use NXT or GXP for denoising now!
@mdnt_astro
@mdnt_astro 3 ай бұрын
Just tried it out and love the results. I'm dealing with some awful blotchy backgrounds with my 294MC Pro and while the gradient removal doesn't seem to do much better than ABE, the noise reduction is really awesome.
@lenn15
@lenn15 3 ай бұрын
I just bought a PI License! This comes just in time ! Merci !
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Congratulations! Enjoy the learning curve and the results you'll get in the end!
@GhostSenshi
@GhostSenshi 3 ай бұрын
I love this community. The ai bg removal tool has been game changing. Eager to use this plugin
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Fully agree! Those guys are amazing!
@davidletz9123
@davidletz9123 3 ай бұрын
This is great! I really need something to remove the noise from THE CLOUDS in my subs!
@TheOriginalTommo
@TheOriginalTommo 3 ай бұрын
...and the moon!!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Ha! Yeah that would be nice...
@ballashoes
@ballashoes 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic results for being free
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@seanod42
@seanod42 3 ай бұрын
Hi Cuiv great video as always good to see free software not everyone can afford paid software as we all no this hobby is expensive i am a supporter of young people coming into the hobby so anything free is excellent i do have all the plugins and feel very happy with them and i will get graxpert new noise exterminator it's always good to have a option
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
GraXpert paired with Siril can really be very powerful!
@siegfriednoet
@siegfriednoet 3 ай бұрын
Great video Quiv, I've been using Graxpert since it was released and it's only getting better every time. Hope they will introduce it also in SIRIL, maybe then a good competition with PI
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Having GraXpert in Siril would be amazing!
@heavyjohnny
@heavyjohnny 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you Quive, Graxpert is a close runner up. I think graxpert came out above with the sunflower nebula. But, you nailed it by calling out the higher contrast with Xterminator in the other two images. I think it is 6 in one hand and 1/2 dozen in the other. I have both, as an early adopter to blurX and NoiseX. As well as topaz dinoise. It’s all close call in all respects. At this stage in the game though, It looks like BlurX/NoiseX is going to have to step up the game if they still want to charge the $$$…. Thanks for a great review. As always great job, from one gijin to another✌️
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
BlurX I think is still safe, but yeah NoiseX might not be!
@davebillybish
@davebillybish 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for yet again a superb video. I think your software comparison and processing tutorials are up there with the best on the subject.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@davebillybish
@davebillybish 3 ай бұрын
Credit where credit is due 😊
@desbarry8414
@desbarry8414 3 ай бұрын
Im still gonna buy Blur Xterminator but after watching this Cuiv, I will now pass on Noise Xterminator and use Grad X pert for denoise, thanks for this great video.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Enjoy the tools!
@deep_space_dave
@deep_space_dave 3 ай бұрын
Great video Cuiv! This is a nice free software that can go along with other free softwares like Siril. No longer do you really need to spend a lot of money just to process your images :-) This lowers the entry point for new astrophotographers that don't want to spend too much money when getting started 🙂 Clear Skies!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! And maybe one day Siril will have all the main features of PixInsight! :)
@terrybertrand7159
@terrybertrand7159 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I just installed it. I already have all of the RC-Astro 'X' processes, and also Graxpert background extraction. But I find that more options are better as on some of my images the RC-Astro processes work better and on other images the Graxpert processes work better.
@thewarhenk
@thewarhenk 3 ай бұрын
Wow, Cuiv! Just spotted the new addition to Toolbox today!
@ciskje71
@ciskje71 3 ай бұрын
* simply impressive about the number of video, I use today Topaz Denoise with Clear model, but now we have a free solution!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yes! I don't really like Topaz Denoise as it tends to add details that truly don't exist and have a certain artificial look to the image (I can usually spot Topaz Denoised images fairly quickly on FB or Astrobin), so I hope you try this one out as well!
@ciskje71
@ciskje71 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Also in Clear mode?
@viksohal
@viksohal 3 ай бұрын
Cuiv, I think you are the Apex of informative astrophotography sites :-)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ninjanekonico
@ninjanekonico 3 ай бұрын
I've just tested (yesterday) noisexterminator, I think i'll give graxpert a chance !
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
You definitely should!
@ninjanekonico
@ninjanekonico 3 ай бұрын
I tried it, it performs really well, I'll stick with graxpert !
@stephanep1330
@stephanep1330 3 ай бұрын
Great video! You're so prompt with these new tools! You did not share any thoughts on the time needed to denoise, is it comparable to NoiseXterminator with CUDA acceleration?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
It was actually quite similar on my PC, so I didn't even mention it...
@Andrey_Gapulenko
@Andrey_Gapulenko 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video!
@wanderingbrummie
@wanderingbrummie 3 ай бұрын
In my experience I’ve found that the PixInsight DBE process usually does a better job than GraxPert, particularly with tricky/ complicated gradients, although it admittedly demands a lot more user input. Haven’t tried GraxPert noise reduction yet, will give it a go.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Agreed - although there are some gradients from poor flat calibration for instance that I think GraXpert actually handles better...
@Fossbear
@Fossbear 3 ай бұрын
thinking that this is their first version of denoising- they are on an excelent way
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's very impressive
@dumpydalekobservatory
@dumpydalekobservatory 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Cuiv looks like another great tool for processing I shall try it out right away!!
@rawhead909
@rawhead909 3 ай бұрын
Regarding the new Gradient Removal tool, I've found that it works much better with my comet images (did a lot of Pons-Brooks imaging), where GXP would almost always subtract some of the comet tail regardless of smoothness settings.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting! In the end I think if GXP doesn't work I'll probably still go with one layer of ABE followed by starless DBE...
@cjmenagh882
@cjmenagh882 3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Great video and very helpful.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@franks2725
@franks2725 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for another helpful video!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ssrattus
@ssrattus 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Cuiv!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@alessandrofioretti2526
@alessandrofioretti2526 3 ай бұрын
great video
@TheArizonaman1
@TheArizonaman1 3 ай бұрын
I wish I saw this video several days ago before I bought Noise Exterminator!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
NXT is still excellent though, so no regret!
@tvanpeer
@tvanpeer 3 ай бұрын
Great video again. Comes in very handy to denoise my first drizzled image 😊 How about processing time, is one tool (significantly) faster than the other to remove noise?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
At least on my computer, they were roughly the same!
@clarencemumphrey
@clarencemumphrey 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Amazing.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
It is!!
@Joel.DeepSkyForge
@Joel.DeepSkyForge 3 ай бұрын
Hi Cuiv, thanks for the video. I'm the author of GraXpert Process for PixInsight. You mentioned that process didn't work for you. In fact, there was a problem with non 32 bits floating point photos. I just released the fix. You can give it a try. Please let me know if you still have an issue and thanks again for all your videos.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, will try later today!
@Joel.DeepSkyForge
@Joel.DeepSkyForge 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek just in case, do not use new denoise AI model 1.1.0 else GraXpert will report an error. This AI model requires GraXpert 3.0.1 which is for the moment in Pre-Release.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
It's working! Thanks!
@KingLoopie1
@KingLoopie1 3 ай бұрын
On my phone they look so close as to be indistinguishable... I saw a few differences but they looked like maybe you just slid the sliders just a little bit too far and could be made even more identical with a little more experimentation... Cool product!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yep, very close results!!
@WhittleAstro
@WhittleAstro 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
You bet!
@chrishill4903
@chrishill4903 3 ай бұрын
Just curious if Russell from RC Astro has chimed in on the comparison between GraXpert and NoiseX? I have been using GraXpert for quite a while and have noticed that it depends on the image as to which product works better. Have you thought of doing a compare with the PI Gradient tool and GraXpert or have you already done this and I missed it? Great video as always.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
I don't think Russel has chimed in yet - but I'm sure he's following what's happening!
@dereksmith4517
@dereksmith4517 3 ай бұрын
Grate vid.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jimmurphy6095
@jimmurphy6095 3 ай бұрын
Looking at the Pacman makes me want to hit the SCNR green button so hard. 😄 Nice job Cuiv. Excellent side by side tests. I would drop the Graxpert NR to around 7.75 and see how they compare for contrast and details.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yep, sounds like it would be a good compromise :-) Also I actually love the colors of SII OIII, that poor teal :-(
@timmoody7600
@timmoody7600 3 ай бұрын
I had to go into the Advanced panel to select the Denoising AI Model before it offered to download it.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks for letting us know!
@leonidtalas696
@leonidtalas696 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! At what stage in post-processing do you apply denoising?
@Neanderthal75
@Neanderthal75 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for a cloud removal. Also throw in a Moon removal please! 😂
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
And localized atmosphere dismissal!
@Neanderthal75
@Neanderthal75 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I think I'm gonna build a rocket and shoot my telescope into orbit. I will use Starlink to stay wifi-connected to it 😁
@P00P2OO
@P00P2OO 3 ай бұрын
I wish that Graxpert would develop the deconvolution AI similar to BlurXterminator, so that it could be 3 in 1 strongest AI app for astrophotography lol.
@tomhoskins4913
@tomhoskins4913 3 ай бұрын
Noise-Pert
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
DenoiseXpert? :)
@astrophotocologne
@astrophotocologne 3 ай бұрын
hehe
@cratervanawesome
@cratervanawesome 3 ай бұрын
The new version also properly detects support for and uses my GPU (2080ti) under linux! Huzzah!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Oh wow that's impressive! Also impressive that you're using NVidia under Linux, standard recommendation is AMD haha
@cratervanawesome
@cratervanawesome 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I've used both. The AMD i was using was a bit older. Upgraded my gaming rig (mostly used for sim racing) to a 4080, so the 2080ti got dropped into the linux (Arch) box I built mostly for PixInsight, Is a Ryzen 5950x CPU and 64GB of RAM so it screams through integrations and such. Support across each was fairly similar. Nvidia you get more goodies for acceleration with CUDA compared to AMD cards. I don't game on it so maybe its a bit differing from that perspective.
@mevansmrichard
@mevansmrichard 3 ай бұрын
I received a different error initially about selecting AI from the Advanced Panel on the right hand side of the application. Might want to include that =)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip! For me it was all automated from the main screen...
@ricardoabh3242
@ricardoabh3242 2 ай бұрын
Free AI tools are impressive … Is there an AI astro processor that can take, the prestack + dark + white frame?
@featherchasing2490
@featherchasing2490 3 ай бұрын
So far I have tried it with two separate images and the score is Topaz Denoise 2 vs 0 for graphpert don't get me wrong for free it's great but Topaz Denoise is still holding a lead. And a newer version is in the works
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
I'd be very interested in some before/after with Topaz Denoise - back when I was using it, I was having so much trouble making sure Topaz wasn't adding some pretty details that don't exist. The end result looked awesome, but a large part of that was the added details...
@user-lq8en4bo1z
@user-lq8en4bo1z 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Cuiv, great video. Just one question. I have Graxpert and GraxpertDenoise in Scripts Toolbox but Graxpert-all-in-one doesn't shows anywhere. Is any additional download or installation needed?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
GraXpert AIO is a separate script - you need either GraXpert AIO or GraXpert+Graxpert Denoise, you don't need both!
@user-lq8en4bo1z
@user-lq8en4bo1z 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks for reply. Yes it is all I need, but still for a sake of trying it out, would you know the link to the AIO script? Thanks.
@cliveroberts415
@cliveroberts415 3 ай бұрын
I hope they integrate it with Siril
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yesssss! That needs to happen!
@robj144
@robj144 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek The RBF algrorithm in Siril is the GraXpert algorithm. When the GraXpert API was released a couple months ago, I thought Siril would put the whole thing in with the AI algorithm. But, I talked to Cyril (the main developer) on Cloudy Nights about that and he said they weren't going to do it then. Maybe this will change their mind though.
@_TK-421_
@_TK-421_ 3 ай бұрын
i dont use Pixinsight (way to complicated for me) what would the workflow be like if you used Siril?
@dalel2112
@dalel2112 3 ай бұрын
Hey Cuiv, I use Affinity for processing. Does Graxpert plug in to it? Like your videos.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Nope...
@grahamprescott9426
@grahamprescott9426 3 ай бұрын
I've had no luck with the background extraction. I seem to get banding everytime I take it back to Siril. Any ideas? I do send it back unstretched?
@mikepaling4736
@mikepaling4736 2 ай бұрын
Hi ... I have an early version of GraXpert on my Win10 Computer .... do I have to completely remove this version before loading the latest version. If the answer is yes .... can you remind me what is the best way to uninsall it?
@IceyJones
@IceyJones 3 ай бұрын
when the AI backgroundextraction fails in graxpert, i just switch back to normal method and place samples. then it works fine again
@projectnightshift6488
@projectnightshift6488 3 ай бұрын
It's giving me an error when I try to update it after adding the repository link. It says unknown code signing identity " Joel Javier"
@projectnightshift6488
@projectnightshift6488 3 ай бұрын
I figured it out through a quick Google search with it's AI response. If you get the same error message, go into program files > pixinsight > src > scripts > toolbox > then delete the XSGN file for GRAXPERT.js and GRAXPERTDENOISE.js. then it will work
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Try renaming Graxpert.xsgn and GraXpertDenoise.xsgn to something like Graxpert.xsgn.old in C:\Program Files\PixInsight\src\scripts\Toolbox and try again!
@projectnightshift6488
@projectnightshift6488 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I found something on Google that said just to delete the .XSGN files for each of them, so that's what I did and it worked.
@skynick77
@skynick77 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek had the same problem, this trick worked for me as well ! tnx
@banday78
@banday78 3 ай бұрын
It is giving error when denoising
@AmatureAstronomer
@AmatureAstronomer 3 ай бұрын
Neat.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@timmoody7600
@timmoody7600 3 ай бұрын
I see GraXpert and GraXpertDenoise under Toolbox, but no GraXpert-All-in-One under Utilities
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
I should have been clearer - it's either those two processes or the AIO process, you don't need both
@craynerd
@craynerd 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I am the same. I think he is saying we can`t see the "All-In-One" under utilities as you have shown and I`ve updated the repositories. Which repository is it that specifically provides the All in One tool? Thank you so much for all your videos!
@jmoreno6094
@jmoreno6094 3 ай бұрын
Graxpert has to be used ONLY before stretching ?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Ideally yes, since the AI was trained on linear images - but denoising can still be attempted on stretched images
@sjpp71
@sjpp71 3 ай бұрын
Ok, forgive my ignorance, but my understanding is that Graxpert gradient removal tool. Is this equivalent to what BXT does? Maybe (most likely, lol) I'm missing something. Please explain. Thanks!
@robj144
@robj144 3 ай бұрын
BXT is a convolution so they are completely different things.
@johnsmith-rd9rr
@johnsmith-rd9rr 3 ай бұрын
Uhm...shouldn't you use NoiseXterminator AFTER a stretch?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Not really - NXT is optimized to work at any point in the process
@giampieroiannone9202
@giampieroiannone9202 3 ай бұрын
I bought NoiseX (and BlurX), shall I delete them immediately?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Keep BlurX for sure!!! That thing is still unparalleled. And keep NoiseX to compare :)
@IAMDRREMULAKK
@IAMDRREMULAKK 3 ай бұрын
I wish GraXpert worked with Windows 8.1. I definitely don't want to buy a whole new computer just for GraXpert.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Your PC doesn't support windows 10/11? It's good to note that Windows 8.1 has reached end of support by Microsoft so ideally you should only use it offline!
@davidemaino7868
@davidemaino7868 3 ай бұрын
What about a comparison with DeNoise in the Ez Suite?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Probably not - it's not the same league tbh
@mikehardy8247
@mikehardy8247 3 ай бұрын
How do you download the AI models?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
For me it was automatic, but you might need to go to the advanced panel on the right hand side!
@JeffHorne
@JeffHorne 3 ай бұрын
Both have their strengths…maybe I’ll start running both oh them at half of the strength that I’d normally use if I were just using one. Just get an average of the two 😂
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha or you can use both of them at normal strength on an image and its clone, and then merge them via Pix insight
@saundby
@saundby 3 ай бұрын
I haven't got to the denoise part of Graxpert yet, it keeps crashing on me when I change background sigma levels. I'll keep trying.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Oh no - I hope you can report that to the dev
@ManOfKent1066
@ManOfKent1066 3 ай бұрын
just downloaded for Mac but will not load due to security concerns!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Seems there are workarounds: www.astrobin.com/forum/c/equipment-forums/steffen-hirtle-graxpert/graxpert-for-macos-x-not-working/
@tommy8644
@tommy8644 3 ай бұрын
hey cuiv, do you know why it doesnt ask me to download AI model after clicking lie you did? :((
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
No idea :-( you should probably report that to the dev...
@jesuschrist2284
@jesuschrist2284 3 ай бұрын
Graxpert is free?
@FrancoGrimoldi
@FrancoGrimoldi 3 ай бұрын
Very
@jesuschrist2284
@jesuschrist2284 3 ай бұрын
@@FrancoGrimoldi im a noob and assumed it was a paid plugin for pixinsight :(
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@JVRost
@JVRost 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion they are still children compared to Topaz de Nois
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
I really don't like Topaz Denoise.... I find it very hard to make it denoise without inventing additional details to the image and the results look very artificial - I can usually spot a Topaz Denoised image straight away on Facebook or Astrobin... So to me, Topaz Denoise is the child :)
@JVRost
@JVRost 3 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek This is cool,)!! Everyone has their own children)
@chrisoriordan6975
@chrisoriordan6975 3 ай бұрын
The AI is just going too far - the link between the astrophotographer and the final image is nearly broken
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 3 ай бұрын
I disagree - denoising (and deconvolution) and painful and tedious processes that can murder your image, and I don't feel any closer to the images because I spent hours denoising and yet the image is now a mottled mess... Or manually creating star masks, ugh... I think those AI tools are incredible and when well built (like the RC Astro tools or Graxpert) they are just part of the flow.
@robj144
@robj144 3 ай бұрын
Highly disagree. Who's taking the hours of subs in the first place? Who's stretching the image?
@spammeforever9586
@spammeforever9586 3 ай бұрын
Where does one download GraXpert All-In-One?
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