played some dust2 games and decided this video was necessary go.dmarket.com/Voo

Conclusion: teamates problem not mines.

in the words of inotorious, "Dust 2 is just a giant 1v1 server anyway"

Those of us in low ranked pugs basically play d2 like deathmatch that happens to have a second win condition available.

audio cuts out from 5:17 - 5:19, thats my educational cs youtuber right there

Voo if you think you’re going to get people in pugs at literally ANY LEVEL to quit peeking mid with an awp you are delusional

I love the audible frustration at people doing dumb shit they've been doing since they picked up the game two years ago like waiting in long doors, or rushing long with terrible spawns. We've all seen it. Also been playing ages, but this is a good refresher for getting back into the game!

Thanks for making such educational video, ever since Dust 2 returns to the map pool, I had been vomiting blood playing with idiots that would sit on the same position the entire round, and doesn't know how to control middle as Terrorists.

I still love playing a ramp as a CT to defend short. It's such a power position as long you've long control. Especially as an awper. I know most play car with an awp but I've trouble hitting shots from there and you've worse cover. I'm used to hold a short from ramp with an awp from 1.6 and works great in at least non professionial level.

Thank you for adressing the "short syndrome" where one guy always goes short. And since I am playing dust before the extinction of the dinosaurs, I always tell my team, to fight for long and then go back to A if there is no one long. You have no idea how many players do not grasp this concept and blame the map.

12 flashes to take long… my math checks out here

As someone who has a few thousand plus hours in d2 3-1-1 is best, play spawns as ct for timing, the 3rd player on A after the first 25 seconds should play a filler role, either mid from short or early rotation to mid giving the mid player the freedom to go b, mid util is needed, long flashes from T should be thrown every round to keep the ct side spread wide, if you get stuck deep mid it’s basically guaranteed that a long flank will be played

"The problem with Dust 2 is that the map sucks" Preach

BRO you don't know how much I needed this, I've been playing dust 2 with a friend and everything you said in the video happens it's crazy, this definitely helps.

Although I was bad in D2 back in CSGO (52% winrate with 18avg) , I know a friend who was (60% winrate with 25avg) , this is 2.5k-3k elo faceit btw. On CT side : - He used the Awp most of the time , glass Awp and no utility over having m4 armor , prioritize saving the Awp over going for low probability clutches . - He consistently looked for early picks with short boost either to peek lower tunnel or top mid , he didn't believe in peeking suicide at the start unless he had the absolute best spawn because it wasn't a high probability duel he said . - If he had spawn he will always go for the long peek . - He is really good with the flashes , he knows if an Awp is holding him and how to get it off the angle , and also how to avoid flashes pretty well . On T side : - He also prefers the Awp over the Ak but it is a bit more situational , if the enemies are really passive and they're not giving him duel and the his teammates are weak he'll rifle. - If he has the long spawn , he'll go for it , otherwise , he'll play very passive and hold mid to cut off rotation while the team tries to take space elsewhere . - He's really good at clutching on the T side . - He looks for the trade immediately, it is like he sacrifice his pawns in a chess game to take space .

I love your style of comedy, great tips as always!

after this video i am so ready for the next series of elo hell. i am soooooo ready. inject that into my veins

Voo is so back, this was insanely informational and entertaining, thank you so much !

The way you describe it is how D2 used to be played in CSGO. But I think with the mid changes CTs can do a lot more with mid/tunnels control since you no longer have to boost short as CT to fight for mid. A single smoke to suicide and Ts lose all early mid control.

Nice video voo, but when you gonna make video how to play nuke?

Great Video! Would like to see more of these for all maps in the map pool! Other streamers/youtubers love to talk about people being dumb in their games but for noobs its hard to know why its dumb if that makes sense lol

@voocsgo when are we getting another podcast????

I got my first ace today, in Premier on dust 2. Pretty happy

I like what you said about casual mode. To me that's the essence of the issue, this map was made for a different time in CS history. It just doesn't translate as well as some to the 5v5 scheme. Furthermore because of its icon status its not likely to receive massive rework to force it to be more "competitively viable"

what if this map replaced mirage as my permaban?

Good info tyvm

Yeah that's why I hate when the map gets picked... Nobody knows how to play it properly but still want to pick it.

What's the tool you use to see the birdeye strat view?

When I play dust 2 I do spawn based gameplay I will Support long if I have the spawn and if not I rush lower and Control mid with the mid and short player

I learned a lot about Dust 2 that I will never use because the map is bad. Thanks Voo!

Dust2 is the only map I can still have fun in, since most people play semi randomly and only a few people have good utility

I've been hard stuck forever man. I keep losing games because of teammates that get mad at me for asking a flash out long...

I miss Cache, my fav map and CSGO Inferno :(

212 would also work but you play it a little differently. Send only 2 long at the start if they're able to keep control of long. Pushing long late is pretty hard without util because there are way too many angles to clear (it'll almost always be a get min 2 and then die situation), and chances are in normal ranked or even faceit, people dont run strats for it. Nobody plays short early. Instead the mid player calls A short push early and rotates to A if they push hard and one of the players on B can rotate to mid. If the mid player calls A short, then one of the long players holds short, and the mid player should be able to help out before the enemies push out onto site from A short. This is not something that'll work every time. It tends to work in most of the games I've played on D2, simply because there is usually very less team coordination in ranked for a map like D2. Also the most important thing when playing D2, is undoubtedly aim. I think a lot of players hate D2 because of the aim aspect too. It is very difficult to play D2 without proper team coordination (which is the norm in ranked) if you have good aimers on the other team. Used to play a lot of D2 in the earlier days of CS:GO and this is just something that worked then. For reference, I hit GE and faceit lvl 9 before I stopped playing as much. Hope this helps!

Great video enjoyed it

If you have a premade heres a thing that works surprisingly well.... Fake B split into A exec or.... B split with him.... Just dont sac him long for no particular reason and you're good :)

Excellent video Voo, by far the second best CS2 KZfaqr!

To me in CS2 dust2 turned out into a different map. Because the opened skyboxes, jumpthrow consistency and nadecam have opened so many more options.

Very good vid. Unfortunately no ones going to listen to me unless im in a 5 stack.

I think ancient feels like dust 2.0 in that in my pugs people literally have no clue what to do on the map, and constantly die from mid and jaguar T side because they have no clue what to do

The problem with solo que T side is trying to convince the guy with the best long spawn to actually run straight there 😂

So close voo, in reality I suck at it because I refuse to play it!

Im kinda glad me and my friends are all in silver wtaching this :)

When is the definitive guide to improve in CS2 dropping ?

I’m so glad I never watched your videos when I used to have fun in csgo

matchmaking is always spamming A, basically if you're defending you always hold long control or with a good spawn aggressive door holding, if you're attacking you also go for the doors and if it's fucked just wait for the push, it WILL happen, nobody can stop the urge to push doors when defending

My favorite map. I will always suck like most ppl no matter how much play lol

This is amazing, but are we (ct) just giving up mid (after 20 seconds) ? I find short quiet hard to hold.

great Video!

3:10 What do you do if this happens, aggro short ? Edit: never mind that's what you're saying next

lmao my long flashes are better. i figured out a counterflash to long pushers. especially if they flash long. its ridiculous i will have an entire team blind. the only annoying part about it is that i get dumbass teammates where ill say dont look at my flash when i flash and they just mosey and get flashed. with a proper teammate 2 holding long is enough with my counter flash technique. and yes the flash is after t's enter long doors :)

Are you ever gonna do a video about Snax?

The funny thing is that in Premier and Comp when you're not some 20k rated player, the opponents often rush B lol

I was 23k (now below 20k) CSR premier, currently level 9 faceit, no matter where i play, i always top frag, i always lose, u may think i'm baiting my teammates, but i also have the highest impact in game, multifrags, most damage, utility, and moral support. I can't play this game anymore, i started balding at 19 due to high stress, and for my health i believe i should just stop and never play at all

You start 3-1-1. You play 3 A to start. 1 cat 2 long. If they don't go long you have the 2nd guy long rotate early to CT/Mid and the mid guy go to B door/window

on god you need to make this type of vid for every map, it's so frustrating especially when people have thousands of hours or were carried to their rank. Like, please, you have played for so long and yet, you don't know a single nade

I don’t even know what long means, when I watch these videos I feel like I listen to gibberish.

You used a demo from 9z, I'm argentinian and, therefore, proud of this ♥

Bro was FINGERING

might need to reupload this video, a few editing mistakes are in here

Actually I suck at Dust2 cause I suck at CS2.

I'm a solo dust2 global and I make a lot of these mistakes lol

thx

i really hope for you and the whole scene there are more possible sponsors than these skin and gamblind ghouls

Hey voo, me again. Still haunted by that cadian+elige thumbnail

this is only relevant to people who have a regular team cuz people dont talk let alone work together. then you got to get past all the cheaters when you do.

3:10 lmao

The problem with all these elaborate ways of playing e.g. long, is that this will just go over the head of most players if you try to get your teammates to play like this.

I see what you're doing here voo, optimizing the upload time for european viewers smh

every time I play dust 2 I think it's such a shit and flawed map but I still love playing it

No clue how faceit lv7+ still dont know how to play Dust2024

Getting teammates that won't just run out and speedrun a gunfight only to lose man advantage 15 seconds into the round every time is more rare than a knife

After that 1st clip dare I say DustSTEW

Dust 2 is the map where I leave my tactics to myself because no-one cares and just want to run and gun :) And it can be fun at times

Imagine playing CS2 in 2024

Moral of the story: permaban

"a delayed long rush, so what a delayed long rush is" its not a rush... "its when you delay and then go long" yea... so not a rush... lol

I play Dust 2 only because for me it's the most balanced map. I often find myself in situations when I'm the last one alive, but with less kills than that dead cod players named teammates. You know what comes next.

5:15 what does he say here?

doesn't dust2 play like Vertigo Withe the hole 3 ramp 1 mid and 1 b but 1 b player isnt viable most of the time

True

sooooo rush b?

i'm not learning shit about d2. its just a placeholder map until the next big update happens. i'll just keep banning it until then.

Dust2 GOAT map

One of the things that grinds my gears are people exclusively playing any sites. If pls learn to play spawns.

my teammte rayyan ndela sar play like this

15years ago i was 3

5:16 what?

Dust II is the greatest map ever made

I ain't doin all that dawg, P90 rush b it is.

3:10 WHY DOES EVERYBODY DO THIS ITS SO FUSTRATING! 😢

i hope my future teammates have watched this video. i highly doubt it...

very VERY helpful, i've always hated fuckin DUST 2

the most fun map of all time

Not sure who this video is for, but it’s not for coordinated groups, and it’s worse than completely useless when people don’t comm. Seems like it’s full of antiquated strategies to a style that suited to how YOU play dust2. Honestly if you don’t have a dedicated group leader that coordinates the group or if you yourself can’t motivate people to play whatever strategy you call, you’re way better off just playing spawn based positions. Your conclusion just go mid every round? Jikes. Even the pro’s peak mid all the time, how you expect pugs not to.

dust2 Sucks on one key round u either gamble for long rush or B rush - u either win there fighting or just save without

abomination of a map

I hate dust 2 for competitive so much

5:18 graph not starting at zero detected, pure garbage.

Dust2 is map of pure skill best mechanical at game wins there