MINAMOTO IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD THESE DAYS - the 15% of stats from the second relic give him just the edge he needed, and his role for single target damage + debuff is hard to beat. SUBSCRIBE WITH NOTIFICATIONS ON SO YOU DON'T MISS MY NEXT VID. discord.gg/chisgule
@Crain-ce2sw Жыл бұрын
Can you do a max Nevsky joan vs Nevsky mina without equipment same buffs please
@capvongola6091 Жыл бұрын
Good job you took my advice 😊. This is your bread and butter. A very good video on one commander that is great. Now just do mehmed. Charles and others like mulan. Etc. you deserve a like foreal
@pound4pound380 Жыл бұрын
Chis we all know the top 3 open field commander pairings. I finally max my Honda today. What is his best pairing minus using the other top 3 commander pairings?
@shahanaahmed3441 Жыл бұрын
Corrections Mina has 60% not 65% stats And does 2600 overall
@Jan-is9fv Жыл бұрын
Im in kvk 1 and I play cav should I buy minamoto?
@XanderROK Жыл бұрын
It's really good that commanders like CM, Moneymoto, Mehmed, Ysg and some kvk2 commanders won't be completely useless especially when you invest in them and don't have a use in the end game I like the relic upgrade.
@XAND3R29 Жыл бұрын
Also thutmose for newer players who have him 5511 from keys is great choice he got huge museum buff so hes kinda mehmed but for archers
@puppythedog8197 Жыл бұрын
Edward is absolutely not in that "some"😂
@anthonywilliams6190 Жыл бұрын
I run scipio Martel I’m f2p t4 he’s expertise and I get 3to 1 trades all day
@anthonywilliams6190 Жыл бұрын
I’m in a C seed kd in kvk 6 right now
@XanderROK Жыл бұрын
@@XAND3R29 I forgot abt Thut he has an insane relic lol
@snakey6397 Жыл бұрын
POV: your f2p but you still watch this guide
@inlnewlife8091 Жыл бұрын
Yes bro 🤣🤣
@rokriml Жыл бұрын
💀
@xoxadxxad2198 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Noahac2 Жыл бұрын
Lol... Yes. I can't skip his video. He's that good
@kuutze8101 Жыл бұрын
You got me
@elcidcrosby Жыл бұрын
A minor correction on the "never" for rallying with CC as primary. For the kingsland fort rally event (lvl 10 forts?) it is beneficial to have CC primary since you are often racing to get a touch on the fort with how few there are and how many people are trying to get them in.
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
In early kvks, if you're racing, I guess that could work. In SOC the barb forts hit a LOT harder, so you'll eat a fat repair bill with a CC primary compared to any of the stronger counterparts.
@MrBradwcarlson Жыл бұрын
I have been a mina simp from day one he has the most kills and barb kills of all my commanders. I am definitely glad he got this buff he works amazing in a rally with nevsky now and still great to bring to field for his debuff.
@MrBradwcarlson Жыл бұрын
@@bankroll174 30% all damage for 5 seconds
@jimmydebus3717 Жыл бұрын
Should I buy him if I don't have any intention on keep buying his sculptures or using GHS on him and do I do a bundle of VIP
@MrBradwcarlson Жыл бұрын
@@jimmydebus3717 just finish buying him. If you are spending on wheels for other commanders mina is considerably cheaper and probably the best value of all commanders in game. Useful from day one until the end my friend that is pure value.
@jimmydebus3717 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBradwcarlsondo I go with VIP 3 or a bundle(just started a jumper)
@Richard-ll3ne Жыл бұрын
mina is one of my fav commanders cant get him expertise but still decent at 5411 in kvk 1
@vigneshrajaram1353 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new guide ❤ Alex does this debuff during his active skill everytime, he should deserve some praises too 😢
@davidw.5185 Жыл бұрын
Mina with Mehmed gives me a fourth t5 march now. I can't wait till my kd gets the Saladin buff. He will be paired with Aethelfled.
@stevenquijano3021 Жыл бұрын
Mina moto has been great this whole year for me. Since prekvk to kvk3 was great and now makes my 5th march can’t get better. Go Mina!
@capvongola6091 Жыл бұрын
Hoping to see more videos just like this. I can’t wait and my like will be there 👍🏾
@Doc_rok Жыл бұрын
Just want to say thanks… these videos are extremely helpful especially since there are now so many options with all of these relics/double relics. Always looking to have the best 5-7 marches possible. Much obliged.
@ChristianoRonaldo1 Жыл бұрын
Even though I'm free to play I used this video to try make a guess of what other players have them so I could counter a tacket
@phatch5444 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!
@luisfernando23225 Жыл бұрын
tengo a minamoto 5115 y es buenisimo de secundario :D
@zerotofreedom8438 Жыл бұрын
If you are reading this, pls make a tier list including all the new relic commanders. I feel like even the likes of Thutmose, CC and Martel are going to be very strong on the field. All of them have more stats than even new gen commanders.
@eugenemyburgh7749 Жыл бұрын
I tested 5541 Thut with boudica as a 2nd and performed very much the same as ysg in a duel vs nev/joan. Not bad actually as thut march speed helps alot in the field
@faressos4032 Жыл бұрын
@@eugenemyburgh7749 Did you really spend gh on Thut ? wow What a waste of gh
@johnbill793 Жыл бұрын
@@faressos4032no 5541 is very attainable especially if they had gold keys saved b4 thutmose dropped
@subodhsukumar4680 Жыл бұрын
Yea man CM really good.. i think harold cm is awesome and cm scipio too,, Using cm primary in open field makes u a target since he is gold key commander so thats only downside
@eugenemyburgh7749 Жыл бұрын
@@faressos4032 i 5511 him back in kvk 2 as an archer player. Rest have been gold keys
@jamielane8696 Жыл бұрын
Pretty smart move by Lilith to make f2p and low spenders feel guilty in not working on Minamoto to expertise. This new double relic will make players feel even more incentivized to buy Mina meaning more money for Lilith. Sigh, if only they had the same energy to make people get Barca.
@hicria11 ай бұрын
Barca needs rework to be useful
@GrowmietheGreen10 ай бұрын
@@hicriaALOT of rework 😂😂😂 such trash, tbh
@Nazyairsengikar Жыл бұрын
If your showing character spec builds show them in complete form please.
@tjboylan20 Жыл бұрын
I used my Mina CC at my alter fight in HA, I traded even as a T4 player fighting imperium T5, my Guan Scipio, Boudica YSG both traded 1:5, Mina CC still slaps
@jonathanlopez5579 Жыл бұрын
how r u still t4?
@tjboylan20 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanlopez5579 my account is just over a year and a half old, I don’t have the speedups to unlock it, I don’t have the money to buy speedups
@dapidd9934 Жыл бұрын
So he aint good if i just bought the vip once n never buy it again?
@MimiDragoons Жыл бұрын
As F2P... This is extremely tempting! 🤣 Love from 2334.
@glenmcintyre72803 ай бұрын
But what order for us to focus on first on the last minamoto skill tree ?
@none_o_ur_bidnis Жыл бұрын
Best 2 cav pairs you can make from: nevsky/joan prime/xy/william/mina?
@Supreme_Mangu Жыл бұрын
Is nevski minamoto and Saladin William two good cav marches? I don’t have Joan yet
@theg.o.a.t1663 Жыл бұрын
What is the Best infantry civilization considering all factors such as open field and rallying?
@joemairena1644 Жыл бұрын
Do you think cao cao has a good relic and can ve used as a end game commander?
@brisk1858 Жыл бұрын
How should I upgrade baibars to be paired with minamoto
@Gamer948372 ай бұрын
I brought him yesterday
@palapaogaming944 Жыл бұрын
Well well I do cc barb fort rally as it’s a hassle to transfer aoo equipment from him to Mina =)
@georgetsamis89402 ай бұрын
Who is the best commander to play after 1m power
@michaeltrinh4394 Жыл бұрын
As F2P, my 1111 Mina is going to be tearing up SOC 😎
@ganjamaang303511 ай бұрын
Thats not ftp 🎉
@p3rran Жыл бұрын
Shame they can't just completely overhaul Barca so he could at least have some relevance and perhaps be in a similar position to Mehmed
@Runnin2Live Жыл бұрын
Should look at the all damage increase of Caesar
@TwoFace90 Жыл бұрын
Do you know which commander is the best one beside mina at the moment? One of the two new ones or one of the „older“ one? @chisgule
@brianhart9353 Жыл бұрын
Hey bro what armaments and inscription do you have on the novesky?
@dkavadas Жыл бұрын
XY-Mina or XY-Mehmed is better with the new museum buffs?
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
if you have lots of marches, the mina debuff is really valuable. This also lets you shift the mehmed somewhere else. That said both will be great with XY, I don't think anyone has tested sufficiently to tell you which is better, but suspect XY-Mina is a much better swarm and XY mehmed is better for field due to the AOE.
@TAETO1585 Жыл бұрын
*quietly changes barb fort preset*
@sirstan4897 Жыл бұрын
So glad i bought him and spend extra money to upgrade him and get extra stars to upgrade him only for them to do 3% each time🤔
@DeejayMontelora Жыл бұрын
I pair him with my xy. Stats go crazy
@Faded3738 Жыл бұрын
should i use mina for pve or pvp? which talent tree should i use? i just got him
@teeee85347 ай бұрын
yo dude, im a returning player from rise of civilisation era, ya know which era was :D so is minamoto still worth to max out in 2024? im beginning as a fresh account
@dadinescu8 ай бұрын
Should we put Him on Ranger or Iron Guard ? and where to put CaoCao 😢 ? what position master ! Please help me out 🫡🥷🏻
@paulwalsh8469 Жыл бұрын
My mina is 1111. Wonder how he go as secondary? 😂
@cheeseman_jones Жыл бұрын
Chisgule, since April fool's is around the corner you should make a April fool's prank video dedicated to Hannibal Barca and why he's "OP"
@HK-eo1ns Жыл бұрын
Do the museum buffs still carry over even if the commander is secondary
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
Yes
@PlunderFairy Жыл бұрын
This vid Makes me feeel better about deciding on my two cav marches being 5435 nev/mehmed and 5245joan/mina since my William is only 5511. Thanks for the great info as always. Hope to send ya a sticker next live stream bud.
@ChickensEntertainment7 ай бұрын
Is the museum not a thing anymore? What level do you need to be if it's still around
@ChickensEntertainment7 ай бұрын
nvm lol
@thecxkilla7812 Жыл бұрын
ok, so I skipped XY and have joan P, Nevsky, and Mina maxed along with 5551 William and Saladin. Would the play be to keep Nev and Joan together and do Mina with William?
@mikeystanford1984 Жыл бұрын
And going to get another buff 🎉
@ulisesfabian3217 Жыл бұрын
Only talents for the primary commander are in affect right?
@joeybeast7729 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Vhakor-Gaming Жыл бұрын
Very good video, but now im more confused then before^^ Currently i'm running Xy/Mehmed (double relic), Nev/Joan, Sala/William and Guan/Scipi. I'm also working on my 5th march (Boudicca 5521 with Ysg). Any advice how i can improve my marches with mina maybe? He is maxed out and on the bench lul. Thanks in advance :)
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
I'd swap out saladin for double relic mina.
@Vhakor-Gaming Жыл бұрын
@@Chisgule like you said in your video, William first, mina second? Cause I'm afraid of using mina first he gets melted in seconds ^^ Beside this, what about sala if he gets his relic buff in the near future? Thank you very much :)
@XanderROK Жыл бұрын
@@Vhakor-Gaming I would wait for Saladin relic I wouldn't do Mina just focus on 5551 or expertise Boudica
@thinhle1466 Жыл бұрын
@@XanderROK Maxing Mina is about money, you can't use gold head on him
@leeeo576 Жыл бұрын
I would let him stay on the bench 😂
@BlgEd Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this kind of content. I have nav, joan n william, how would you pair them with Mina, Mehmed n Saladin for 2 cav pairs?
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
Nevsky Joan, Mina William
@BlgEd Жыл бұрын
@@Chisgule Thanks so much! love your content and appreciate helping us understand ROK better 🥳❤
@Rodgers65 Жыл бұрын
I remember trying minamoto as a primary when museum came out and it was a bad idea😂
@gordoneaton564 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I can never max him. I used 15 of his sculptures at some time. He's 5,5,5,4 , as I cannot max him. What is the skill would you recommend being 4.
@david.p240 Жыл бұрын
How did you "use" 15 sculptures on him so that they're lost?
@ryaneckalook4486 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he means he used Mina heads as stars and cannot get anymore Mina head cause he bought them out, jus a thought 😅
@joeybeast7729 Жыл бұрын
3rd skill
@strat3g1cal41 Жыл бұрын
Ok I’ve got a bone to pick well 2. 1: You’re advocating to max Mina and get his museum relic upgrades but only have 1 unlocked and have enough MORE than enough for 2 why not both? 2: You said Latent Power effects only DAMAGE OVER TIME but CLEARLY SAYS: Increases skill damage by %? If that was the case why isn’t it worded that way because to me and hearing and reading it. It’s my special move whether has damage over time procs or not.
@ShinodaRonin Жыл бұрын
Im a f2p player- now I want to spend money to get Minato now
@callmebeanos1321 Жыл бұрын
All I’m saying is Imhotep does minamotos warlord debuff but in a circle to 5 targets
@filippomacutan266 Жыл бұрын
Chis I have a question: When you’re in season of conquest, with museum buffs already unlocked, and you migrate back to a Kvk 2/3, when you gain again access to season of conquest your relics are already unlocked or they will be locked again? Thank you!
@chriscrockett787 Жыл бұрын
Unlocked. They will be locked until you return to SOC.
@filippomacutan266 Жыл бұрын
@@chriscrockett787 thanks a lot 💪🏻🙏🏻
@RohanZockt Жыл бұрын
sorry my english is not so good, do not understand everything, should I buy the rest of the VIP boxes for Minamoto in kvk3, I think I bought all but the 40 money +, so not too much missing
@cryptomontana92357 ай бұрын
Bro is that your account 😳 your a beast
@victorloboruiz8572 Жыл бұрын
XY(5 5 1 5)/William(5 5 5 1) or XY(5 5 1 5)/ Minamoto (Maxed with upgraded Relic) ?????
@shirohige9376 Жыл бұрын
XY should be maxed his expertise is insane
@josiah8429 Жыл бұрын
Is Joan of arc (epic) good with mina for open field as primary
@bobbob15517 ай бұрын
Is mina sun tzu good? I seem to be getting better reports than my mina baibars cause sun gives 20% extra skill and 10% damage reduction and aoe rage gain helps with mina cycle
@Chisgule7 ай бұрын
It’s a fine combo to start, sure
@nickpham6526 Жыл бұрын
More videos about mehmed please😋😋😋
@tvaudits Жыл бұрын
What about infantry pairs using berserkers brooch artifact?
@ElectricVRoom Жыл бұрын
If I want to rally a fort in the end game, I guess one can use minamoto maxed. But as primary? With whom as secondary? William? XY? Nev?
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
best BF rally is still mina CC
@madasama1724 Жыл бұрын
5512 Mina viable in end game? Was going to to do XY with Mahmed but seems raw stats on Mina/Mahmed would be more decent.
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
The XY Mehmed would be a much stronger choice than the 5511 mina mehmed. You're missing the debuff and a lot of active skill damage at 5511. You certainly can use it as a double relic, and for barb forts it'll still be great, but at that point the expertised XY is certainly a noticeable upgrade.
@dw_nick_8299 Жыл бұрын
Hey chisgule!
@CarlosLopez-tl9cd Жыл бұрын
Chísgule which combo is stronger Nevsky & William or Nevsky & Minamoto??
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
William > Mina in group fights. Mina > william for rallies
@Euj1 Жыл бұрын
Pov: your an f2p And suffering while watching this vid
@jerrylarios6398 Жыл бұрын
I'm a cav main so what should I do? I got nevsky5555 joan5515 XY5515 William5551 saladin5555 chandra5555 mina5555 cc5555 mehmed 5513 and aethel of coarse and I got 4 really good cav sets plz help ❤
@caliGee Жыл бұрын
hannibal barca and Card king are competing for RoK #1 cash grab reward
@Lucas-tu7yl11 ай бұрын
Is it worth putting recourses into minamoto if you are a very low spender (only spend 5 euros, and not planning to spend more)
@painakatsuki525610 ай бұрын
Well you won’t be able to upgrade his skills so for fighting others he won’t be doing anything
@granddaddypurpz6795 Жыл бұрын
Have anyone ran Chandragupta with Mina or have any output about this match
@leechen34658 ай бұрын
Will Mina and YSG work in KVK 1 as a pair? Thanks for answering
@Chisgule8 ай бұрын
You could, although it’s best to use cav commanders with cavs and archer commanders with archers
@tomross5638 Жыл бұрын
When will Alex get his buff?
@formersimp-v9g13 күн бұрын
5-1-1-5 1.2% chance letsgo
@gummibear2793 Жыл бұрын
I currently run Guan/Alex, Sargon/Scipio, Boudicca/YSG and Nev/Mina. I wanted to go for Joan, but now since Mina is actually decent it seems like a waste to me to bench him. Any advice?
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
Stick with Nevsky Mina for now and use the sculpture savings to make a 5th march. That 5th march should probably be cavalry and could include Joan Mehmed. You could also go Nevsky William + Joan Mina. Unless you're waiting for the new archers to land in a few months, which would also be a super reasonable choice.
@Davor707 Жыл бұрын
@@Chisgule would Sala Mina work at all? Hesitant to put Mina primary since he’ll get targeted open field 😅
@XAND3R29 Жыл бұрын
@@Davor707 b4 soc its a good pair in soc its becoming not that great but still
@nzoy3534 Жыл бұрын
Hey chisgule! you should check out PJ04 in kingdom 3045, hes Nephisto 2.0. hes currently at 500 million power per kvk 1
@ronaldramo3 Жыл бұрын
Calling anyone the next Nephisto shoukd be treated as a slander
@cassio8741 Жыл бұрын
would you recomend XY/Mina(double rellic) over XY/Willian(5551)?
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
Hard to say. William buffs are really good.
@simonforget7274 Жыл бұрын
Trajan mina with all cavs and cav gear
@pppp0830 Жыл бұрын
hi chisgule, i have minamoto, nevesky, joan prime, atila, takeda, CC. what should be my two pairings of cavs march? please answer me
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
Nevsky Joan, Attila Takeda.
@pppp0830 Жыл бұрын
@@Chisgule thank you so much!!!
@mczkygamingofficial7 ай бұрын
This video is purely for whales and spenders not f2p's or semi spenders(please clarify that in your title since I know,there is still some new players in ROK that doesnt know that) edit: 3:16 you say free to play?(correct me if Im wrong) it is free to play right? so why call yourself a free to play if you spend even 25% of cash in a game for vip? No f2p's will spend a single centavo in a game. and even a 1% f2p/spender cant bought all those sculptures of mina,my friends even gave up for that. I spend 3% on mina(vip) and I stopped in my early days so stop saying " Free to Play" because minamoto(moneymoto) will never be a f2p/spender friendly. it will take 45% of your cash before you can max him out. thats why he is purely for spenders and whales only
@jesusispacking4 ай бұрын
What is a whale (im spender)
@DeejayMontelora Жыл бұрын
Would joan mina work though?
@david.p240 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@michaelrudd8518Ай бұрын
Okay I seen it here
@imdinee4551 Жыл бұрын
is 5111 minamoto is good?
@mikeystanford1984 Жыл бұрын
Yes it works well
@mojitobaba98106 ай бұрын
best minamoto duo ?
@JLaze187 Жыл бұрын
New meta
@agentlostxx7558 Жыл бұрын
Mina William better then Saladin William? 🤔
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
I would use mina william over saladin william, yes.
@seanbray7933 Жыл бұрын
When do you get the museum?
@maximilianstormoennylnde69693 ай бұрын
That what i am trying to find out
@fredotufangavavlu4479 Жыл бұрын
He is Really good
@davidwhittamore29548 ай бұрын
Minimato and Belarus
@Birbus_ Жыл бұрын
Got Minanoto for 4 bucks in 2022
@ryanforgo3500 Жыл бұрын
@chisgule i can still se mina replacing xy, mina debuff is more unique, his damage covers a bit for the aoe advantage of xy. But he is much tankier with all the defense he gained.
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
I would certainly say that if you have mina you don't need to invest in the XY, save sculptures for a future meta. If you have the XY already I think you use it.
@30Cal-Cam Жыл бұрын
Really? Mina3.0 is better than xy?
@dweintoys8068 Жыл бұрын
F2P/low spender better get CC only and wait for Saladin.
@issaraie9801 Жыл бұрын
Lilith should buff season 2 kvk commanders
@Doc_rok Жыл бұрын
Chandra/Mina or Mina/Chandra as 3rd Cav march? Favor Chandra/Mina…. Thanks
@Laiquelleion Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I am running this as well
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
Chandra primary should ensure mina does extra damage.
@michaelrudd8518Ай бұрын
Minamoto should you use him in the end game
@michaelrudd8518Ай бұрын
@chrsgule
@ollimikkola7168 Жыл бұрын
Minamoto is imo clearly better than saladin
@niikkoo4048 Жыл бұрын
Minamoto can be used with MehMed II ?
@Chisgule Жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. Mina primary.
@niikkoo4048 Жыл бұрын
@@Chisgule Can you help me with skills for Mina and Mehmed please ? If you can, because, always find alot of skills but no one helps to me :/