Erik Johnston Haha nice one. They look really nice. Hoping to get the Truggy out soon!

Same

0.5 mod but you can easily change to 48p using Losi Mini 8ight spurs.

The quality is awesome!

Cheers Troy

Hoping to get the Truggy out next week if the weather holds up

Thanks dude.

Thanks Mr Krab

Haha... hmm, skate parks... where RC’s go to die 🤣

Thanks Nathan

Thanks mate

If you can stretch to one of these..... I say go for it!

Definitely better than the LC

I mean LC is the better one

Do yourself a huge favor and get the LC Racing product!! I've gone thru TWO 144001's, those buggies were so costly to upgrade and they're CHEAPLY made and just aren't built too well. Too much stress, things just keep breaking!! LC Racing rocks, I just checked out their buggy, really NICE. Save yourself migraines in the long run. 👍💯

Haha... sorry dude. The 144 is still a good buggy, and as you may have seen with my speed run build... really fast!

@@TomleyRC Yes, exactly that was what made me buy another 144001 and the parts. Still waiting for the electronics, but looking forward to it!

Cheers dude

Thanks dude

Thank you :)

You'd be lucky to have it arrive by Christmas. When Banggood gives a future ship date watch out. Been waiting for an order over two months and another one over a month just to ship.

These were shipped the 16th Sept and I got them the 29th Sept (UK) 😎👍

@@TomleyRC great!! Here in Spain Aliexpress and Banggood are doing well. My last 3 orders took just 6-9 days to come!

Looking forward to running it!

I'm really looking forward to running the Truggy.

lol yup... Kevin (lets break stuff!) Talbot! same time I got no real dislike for the guy either, if you want to see how tough something really is through abuse to failure he's good to watch. sometimes pretty fun+funny too really.

Yeah it looks great, should be awesome, 37mph on 2s was just awesome

Yes, pretty quick!

Be good to see :)

Don't think so.

Yeah maybe. I'll have to have a closer look!

@@TomleyRC cheers

Night and day difference in quality.

I may have to get the Rally Car!

Yes, it's not always about sticking the fastest motor in and going for it. Motor, ESC, Battery, gearing.... it all has to be in tune to get the most out of it!

Cheers dude. The LWB will be good for your Speed Runs ;)

@@TomleyRC defo will be can wait to see you run it as I do like LC Racing from start. All my upgrade were mostly lc racing for my 144001 😁👌🏾 as like you said it what it base on so can only assume it be better. It a lot more price wise but I think it worth it. 👌🏾

The ION range from Maverick look really nice!

@@TomleyRC they're purely plastic which as you know is good and bad. The only issue is parts availability if things break. It also runs the same battery as the LC in your review and this one is brushed.

I had to laugh. I wrote my comment after yours but, before I read yours. Pretty much the same thoughts. Are you my long lost brother or something? 😏

Yes, but it is double the quality.... or more!

In Malaysia the wltoys can be gotten at about £50... but this LC costs £180. I am not contesting the quality, it does look amazing, but at 3 times the price... it's a different price bracket already 😅

@@hubertdouglas9509 true, on a budget you could convert the 144001 to being brushless, and give it a few other minor adjustments/upgrades to make it rock without spending over L100. spring choice, shock oil choice, wheel camber and toe alignment etc all add up for how it'll handle competing. sure the 144001 is a kinda "sloppy copy" as gotten but its still a pretty decent platform if you dig in a little (to your pocket, a little deeper!).

I could get three 144001s for the price of the LC. With all the upgrades you may spend a bit more, but then if you do want something of quality then the LC is the one to go for... although budget is not appropriate to be associated with the LC in comparison to the 144001s

I’ve not done a full run on the Nimh, but the Lipo is 20mins+

Yeah, certainly a little less lively!

Not sure, but certainly looks similar

I think so but their polarity seems to be opposite of the usual way. Didn't find an adapter so my rx is now Xt60...

Cheers mate. Gopro Hero 7 Black mainly. Recently been using the Hero 9. Also have a Session 5 & my phone now and again. Nothing fancy :)

@@TomleyRC cool im using gopro hero 7 Black first time today and really happy with the footage so far ,loving it! Looking forward to the next one!

Truggy video hope fully next week

@@TomleyRC Looking forward to it,Got one on order now-you convinced me-please see post on facebook regarding connectors!

The 144001 is really good for the money

be aware, it's more a racer than a basher, and may fail with hard bashing.

@@modelnutty6503 thanks for the heads up,I don't bash too hard,I don't have skate parks near me or anything like that,I mostly run my rc in parking lots or on baseball fields,there are a couple little league fields close to me that aren't getting used right now

Yes, 12mm hex. Although may be a bit big

Not sure mate

Yes it is.

Yes... but a lot more expensive lol

Very good question... and one I can’t answer 😅

@@TomleyRC I've done a side by side of my mini 8ight buggy and a 144001 and the similarity is there

Cheers dude. I'm waiting for good weather to get the truggy out, hoping to get it on a dry BMX Track!

@@TomleyRC I'm going out in a bit with mine. I converted it to a long wheel base monster truck with a JConcepts body for the mini e revo.

It seems really bad. Try Aliexpress or Banggood. Next to nothing. Unless you're in the states where you can get parts from Nitro NCX, the parts option is terrible. This isn't put into consideration.

Double the quality as well. I really love the 144001, but the quality of this is something else

@@TomleyRC I can Believe that you bashed it pretty hard. Banggood is being stupid on a couple orders presently. Over two months after paying and has not even shipped. I doubt I will order anything that has an estimated ship date from them in the future. your vid...your vid was fine thanks.

@@robertredzich7292 oh you don't want to know about my experiences with BangGood STUPIDITY... got LOTS of stories about "customer service".

WLtoys is 100% worth every penny. As I mention more than once in this video, if you can stretch to this then it’s way above the WLtoys for build quality and quality of components. I still rate the 144001 as the best bang for buck 😉 I’ve torn the 144 down in another video and had it over a year... get an LC Racing in your hand and you don’t need to tear them down to know

The Truggy :)

Yes it is a decent make

tried heat treating the dog bones? get them glowing a good orange and drop them into a tin can filled with some nasty old used motor oil can case harden those parts .006 or .007 deep (at least). true the 144001 is a little racer, not a basher, its going to break if you're bashing it. suspension needs to be soft for racing means 3/16-1/4" down from full height at rest so it has positive+negative suspension travel.. while a basher wants to be almost full height on the shocks with thick oil in them to land those TOO HIGH jumps. I can tell you get racer vs basher too.

Try to tell the guys on the 144001 group the LC Racing cars are better and they will whip out the pitch forks and torches.

@@slick2500 all of us we bought the 144001 because is nice looking and look like an lc racing, is fast because of high gearing and is cheap. But in rc hobby grade models the less cheap the worst quality in parts and more often you see damages. I know in rc hobby cars that they brake some time especially when you drive it hard and you do roll overs or crashes, but man the 144001 is to sensitive. The rear end part that attach on the back wheel , brake in the point that the rounded head screw, screw on the rear end. Rear end is the name of the part if you google it, it also says it in the manual. So this rounded head screw destroy the threading on the rear end part every time the model do roll overs when roll over with the wheel's. And the axles bend so easy because the metal is low quality on purpose. Also if you crash in a straight line in the middle of the model in the bumper, you can bend very easy the centre drive shaft, i have bend it one time and i know that. So buy two three spares for replacement. Also i have lost move from the front gear box completely. Generally the 144001 are not made for many crash, if you drive them gentle without do roll overs especially with the wheel's , it will last. At least is cheap and you can fix them easily, but from a point and then if you like hard driving it will make you to park in the room and use it after some days or weeks or months. For me guys buy a smaller motor in diameter and that means also a smaller pinion gear and you will controll it much easier because now it to fast. Smaller pinion gear means, less top speed , but better controll. Just try it and if you like it keep it like this, and every time you like speed put the 540 motor with the gear and do high speed driving.

The 144001 buggies cost next to nothing and are aimed at newcomers. Amazing value for money when you think about it. You can't please some people....

@@madaxman72 yup definitely what you would expect from a $80 rc car.

Yes, plenty... eBay has a fair few as well.

@@TomleyRC Thanks, I’ll have another look. Was looking at the Arrma Typhon but this looks like a cheaper half decent alternative. Less extreme may suit the family better? What’s your opinion?

Think I prefer the EMB-T

Also.. I think they are lil high in price this lc racing 1/14 scale.. with out the aluminum swing arms suspension..

Yup I believe so too . shock towers are s different design on losi though .

I have been thinking the same thing qhen I was searching for the Mini 8ight-T. Not sure who did what, but they look very very similar. I notice Losi doesnt do the Mini buggy or truggy anymore, so whether someone else is just using that design, or Losi had just bought the rights to them before like they did the DBXL, Im not sure.

Almost, but pretty much the only parts that will swap over from the Losi to the LC is the spurs, and slipper pads at least that is all I could get to work anyway.

@@slick2500 i wonder if they are same OEM tho, and changed ever so slightly. Chaiss layout is very similar. I know theres you could say a lot of chasis design are, but this looks like an OEM thats had parts changed just to make them unique.

The Losi quality is a hundred times BETTER than ANY of the WL Toys, the Hosim brand, Eachine racing and many more of the Chinese direct brands. I mean their good for a little while, then in no time, the problems start. 👍💯

Yes hopefully

It's a little 'out of control'... must be from the 'Evans' side of the family 😅

@@TomleyRC I couldn't possibly comment.

Yes, I believe so

yup, because 36-37 just isn't fast enough for a 1/14... /s (still be fun to see it do 50)

LC Racing is pretty well known. Not a cheapo brand :)

Oscar Oliu this is a brand name

I think they do

You can order them with clear shells

Did you buy the Shocks for the 144? The LC Racing ones are not the same, look well built...but time will tell if they will hold up!

@@TomleyRC Visually they seem the same as on the 144001. You can buy spares of the same make on aliexpress. One of the first things I did was dump out the undefinable black oil from the factory and put in brand oil. It handles better, but they still leak a ton.

RackwitzG Yeah the LC ones look the same, but they are not. Slightly smaller in diameter, and look/feel a little better quality

Oh wow, talk about a keyboard warrior. Please tell me you are not trying to bash a company because the - and I quote "they look the same." Based off a picture you're looking at over the internet. You sir are not worth dick cheese on a cracker.

Yeah, really easy

maybe even from zero lol

there are parts available in Michigan,US location

Hello, could you tell which model of redcat brushless you mean?

RC Masked Master Well not all the WLtoys suck haha. They offer people a cheap entry in to RC. You love Banggood really...... deep down..... I know it 😅😍

Tomley RC 😂

Yeah, this video wasn't a comparison to the 144001... more a review of the EMB MT. I will sit them side by though at some point

Play at the wheels is about the same on both and it is do to the steering drag link. LC Racing diffs come oil filled with 3,000k diff oil iirc, mine were spot on when I opened them up, the gears could use a good shimming but in the past 2 years I have only lost diffs do to the pinion coming off the output shaft. Anything else you would like to know?

@@slick2500 finally someone with an honest mouth. So its literally the same as wltoys apart from the type of plastic used and maybe better metal for gears. It's got all the play in all the same areas? Would that be fair to say? And would you say the wltoys is worth buying despite you owning and lc racing?

Me Him ‘honest mouth’... that would imply mine isn’t? Lol. I never said in the video the 144 is crap, I never said in this video not to buy the 144 or that it is not worth the money. I simply reviewed the LC Racing and said it’s better quality, and to buy one if you could afford it. It is better quality, but the 144 is worth every penny. I have 2 of them, I big my original one up all the time as it’s still going strong after about a year, but these LC Racing are better, no question about it. Thanks ‘slick2500’ 👍🏻

@@TomleyRC Tomley let "slick2500" take over from here. If you felt I've implied something then do a better job!. plastic break no matter what company. The main drive train still being sloppy and needing shimmed Worth it? The play in the wheels and steering drag link till being the same as wlyoys. Worth it? None of that is worth the extra money if you've still got to shim here and there. So where is the quality for money in the plastic? In the same aluminum chassis? The 2 shouldn't be compared even if the 144 is a knockoff.

Where is Traxxas made?