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Күн бұрынI stream on Twitch ( / andyvnguyen ) on Tuesday at 5:30 PM PT and Saturday 10:00AM PT. I stream on KZfaq on Thursdays at 5:30PM PT.
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Keyboard: Link65
Board insulation: Porous white foam, black poron foam
Plate: Pom, Alu
Keycaps: GMK WoB
Switches: Penyu Switches
Stabilizers: TX Stabs
Desk: Desk Haus desk with Apex Pro Max Legs and a 1.75" Walnut top. desk.haus/ code "WEENG" at checkout for 5% off!
Mat: I only use this randomfrankp x novelkeys mat because I can't afford another one.
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@kobb4467 2 жыл бұрын
patented shake test never do you wrong
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
knock test, shake test, so scientific
@2b2c1d2 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen very keybored like
@escapeism 2 жыл бұрын
respect for not just saying "buy this" and the honest review
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I’m tired of people avoiding the question and saying everything is good
@Oath3D 2 жыл бұрын
Your reviews always hits home. Honest and thorough 👌
@happylittletrees8130 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe too honest at times, haha 😅😅
@jonathansmith4737 2 жыл бұрын
I constantly appreciate your objective reviews, if I want a honest opinion of a new board without expecting a minor shill you are the one I goto.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the trust!
@wilou1945 2 жыл бұрын
Andy, I love your vids, thanks for always making the most informative keyboard content!
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
i'm glad that you enjoy them!
@fxystc 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! This is one of the very few reviews that is actually helpful!
@muCephei_ 2 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your honest and objective review!
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I try!
@scantrawn4096 2 жыл бұрын
This new thumbnail guy is really capturing my attention. He deserves a tofu.
@bugcapoo9310 2 жыл бұрын
an e-yellow tofu at that.
@camenskycameron8413 2 жыл бұрын
This video just made me want to get the tiger 80 lite more Feck whatever new owlab board he’s showing Tiger ROARS bro! 🐅
@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын
I might try to make a California role with the extra pcb
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
That would make an Amazing KZfaq short lol
@hide598 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review. Agree that the back is what the QK65 should be. So it’s either QK65, or go all out for Vega65.
@clackyzard 9 ай бұрын
great review man. Really appreciate the honesty as always
@MisfireKB 2 жыл бұрын
Meme cuts do nothing, shocked lmao. I think it sounds good for what it is, it's kinda just exactly what I expected. It's a keyboard
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
definitely a keyboard! it's crazy how similar it sounds to a qk65. in keybored's video it's just a tough less foamy sounding but it's just using diff foam
@brocky 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Respect for being honest! Totally not worth double the cost of a QK65.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely I’d grab the qk65 too
@bakeraus 2 жыл бұрын
Respect for the review and a honest review. Andy V for Mech President!
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Nono just let me be a governor or something they gonna try to take me out if I’m Prez!
@bakeraus 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen thought you were going to say make governer and take me out for pizza 🍕
@minahwd 2 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence for it, but the sound profile is a miss. I’m sure there will be plenty of 65% options to choose from down the line. Keep up the great reviews Andy! 🔥
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting something crazy but it was quiet and then just normal
@parkerlee5881 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the thumbnail getting created in the discord was hilarious
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
hahahah it was wildin in patron chat
@_silverword 2 жыл бұрын
glad we're getting a review from you before the gb
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
tryin my best m8
@bao1964 2 жыл бұрын
tbh its really not a bad buy at all, since a decent mid high-end 65% usually comes at that price range. But the thing is, it's not really that much different from all the other 400-ish 65% board out there. Yeah the design going into this board is insane, but in terms of practicality, it doesnt offer that much enhancement from, say the like of qk65, zoom65 and all.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah considering it’s not a full GB period it’s decent
@Havesomepizza 2 жыл бұрын
This board seems like a great proof-of-concept for the screwless design and the sushi-roll PCB. You can tune a QK65 sound to be pretty similar to this one. Appreciate the honesty in the review as always, Andy!
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it definitely held itself together! no HUGE issues but i think we can do moar
@MrScabbyballs 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Mr Suit and a Spring, the Link65 doesn't sound different enough for me to consider though I gotta say that alu plate and pcb foam typing test sounded siiiiick
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
that's a pretty fair assessment!
@ee1yd 2 жыл бұрын
Some cool innovations, would wait to see other offerings they bring out and passed the 65% phase awhile ago
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Qk60 looks like a great buy to spice up the 60s market
@IronCan88 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andy awesome honest and thorough review.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
you can count on me!
@jackiexu8 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic review. love it. keep it up!
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@ChiefBrianIrons 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review I always wanted to get a owlab keyboard since I missed out on jelly epoch and Mr suit. I will save my money and wait for next keyboard that owlab release
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they just keep it simple with gasket socks!
@tophrii 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this review. I always assumed that the flex cuts would make for a fairly thin/loose sound, so adding foam would be something that could be done to offset that. But then adding foams would negate the flex cuts anyway. Haha. Overall, I think it was a nice experiment but I don't think this is it for me, chief.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
On the build stream as soon as we put on the plate, since there’s no flex cuts the line up with the pcb.. it just has the regular flex of a plate (much less) and the muted sound of flex cuts
@sn1krep1 2 жыл бұрын
mmmmm that sushi roll of a pcb, add that extra finger grease and we have a paaaaartaaaaayyyy!!!! :wicked:
@jalexanderc 2 жыл бұрын
oh my... got a little violent with the mods in that first typing test
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta type like you mean it
@springpocket6941 2 жыл бұрын
yeah that spacebar is a deal breaker, sounds like the gmmk pro where it's just weirdly loud and metal-like
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
i tried to plug the butt and work around it but man.. it's gonna haunt me
@boysick 2 жыл бұрын
nice review btw what is the colour ? is it silver ?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Silver
@boysick 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen thanks bro
@ElChubaNebre 2 жыл бұрын
always trust the andy keyboard review. thanks for the content my guy
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
thanks benny!
@bigbenmk4873 2 жыл бұрын
Best patina work ever bro😂🤝
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
That’ll be $150 because it’s now a 1 of 1
@nmadden02 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, thanks Andy! Yo where can I buy the QK65? I agree love the look of the link but those finger prints are a deal breaker. I just cannot for the life of me find the next round for the QK65
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
they should drop again soon i think? i haven't kept up. join the owlabs disc to find out more discord.com/invite/owlab
@IronCan88 2 жыл бұрын
Earliest will be 2023 , I am guessing q1 or q2.
@Akeynote 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a miss from owl labs on this one. Great review Andy, that intro was hilarious lol.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
i'm glad you liked the intro! i wanted to use real sushi and make a joke about that but .. didn't want to waste food or be degenerate
@brian2113 2 жыл бұрын
Cool thumbnail cooler review
@Agent_Alpha 2 жыл бұрын
great review as always, thank you Andy! and btw, about the 1.2mm pcb requiring shims to put TX Stabs on, i thought TX provides 1.2mm TX Stabs ? i bought them for my friends Ikki68 r2, which also uses a 1.2mm pcb
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I used my last 1.2 on my angle and it was soldered so last second I had to use my 1.6 with shims. You have to plan ahead and buy the right thickness
@Agent_Alpha 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen ouch, yeah i was planning to buy an Ikki68 r2 pcb for my Ikki68 r1 to increase the flex, but due to the multi-layout hotswap sockets, it doesnt have any space to put on the shims, and i dont wanna give up on my Staebies so i'm still staying on R1 for now
@d-floe 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Is it just me or is the PCB Foam you mentioned at 6:08 actually Plate foam. I thought PCB foam was the foam that went over the PCB like the PE foam mod
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Pcb foam and plate foam are both names for the thing that goes under the plate. It’s usually thicker. PE foam is what goes directly on top of pcb as a thin layer
@robinson5526 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to do a silent build, maybe with spring swapped silent U4s. Think this would be good for that? Ignoring the sound, was the typing feel very bouncy?
@97Syahmie 2 жыл бұрын
That back side really leaves behind all the evidence
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta make sure you clean your hands before and after!
@97Syahmie 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen 😩😩
@saucyg6371 2 жыл бұрын
To minimize the sound lost to flex cuts, what would be your ideal flex cuts (amount and where at, or per switch and such). I’m personally leaning more towards two or three long, horizontal flex cuts to have a bit of flex, while mainting a good sound signature
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
half plate no flex cut pcb
@sxnthwave 2 жыл бұрын
I like foam/silicon but only when its up to me what to use and what not to use.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@tremolo_truong 2 жыл бұрын
You absolute chad. Be wary of my presence next stream.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
DIS FOo
@channelnamehere1402 2 жыл бұрын
Disregarding sound, would you say this keyboard's typing feel is considerably more bouncy/flexy than premium gasket mounted keyboards? I'm 90% sure I want to buy it mostly for the typing feel and look, but I want to be aware of what to expect. Thanks for the video!
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Nope it feels the same if you’re gonna use pcb foam or case foam. The mounting kind of averages out to typical flex after you put the plate on. It’s most flexible when it’s just the pcb lol
@TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf 2 жыл бұрын
Plate: POM or FR4 (and its amazing cuts!) ...? Thoughts?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I’d go stiffer plate so fr4
@_iboji 2 жыл бұрын
Oof with just over twelve hours left to decide I’m firmly on the fence. I want a leaf spring board since I missed out on the salvation (and need the arrows) but here there are a number of compromises
@Marco-gd5cl 2 жыл бұрын
tiger80 is pretty nice and cheap imo. if it had an external weight, it would probably by worth 400+ easily
@DesolationPhoenix 2 жыл бұрын
How did you set up your stabilizers for this build? Also, I’m surprised you were able to get such a clean sound on spacebar with Penyus. I’ve always had trouble attaching spacebar on long pole switches because the stem sits higher than the stabs at bottom out. Any tips for this?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
1.6mm Tx stab w shims on top of pcb and wedges for the stabs to hold it in. 205g0 on wire and housing. I haven’t really had an issue it just has a diff sound
@benjihuh927 2 жыл бұрын
is the link65 pcb compatible with other 65% pcbs like the voice or bakaneko pcb? It seems it's greatest weakness is simply the sushi roll and changing it out for a 1.6mm FR4 pcb might drastically change the sound profile.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
not at all, it uses this weird ribbon cable situation
@Nebrida23 2 жыл бұрын
So if I already have a few 65% boards, a Mr suit, and a Jelly, is this something that I should consider or just wait for another 65%? Maybe the think 6.5 v3?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Another 65. Try a top mount maybe? Or gummy o ring
@MisfireKB 2 жыл бұрын
Success
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
u tried m8
@10throwfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the awesome cable in the second half of the video from?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
the cables i use are from cablemod, link here www.andyvnguyen.com/affiliates
@kaeroseon 2 жыл бұрын
how can this ever compare to the legendary e-yellow tofu and the shark65 with the shark suit and soju mod
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
nothing can compare to those
@MeoGari 2 жыл бұрын
Should I tape flexcut on PCB of keyboards? Will it help making muted boards sound louder and better?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that typically makes the board louder. Better is subjective and sometimes it doesn’t help. My mod taped ark68 and ended up taking it out because it sounded worse
@MeoGari 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen I tried on my board. It made switches sound a bit better but also a little bit like tape mod, a bit poppy and "creamy". Maybe because tape is not hard material, it creates vibration.
@iscpack 2 жыл бұрын
so what would you recommend for a board that’s around the price of the link - 400$?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Go down to qk65. But ginkgo extras are up. Vega extras should happen soon. They’re all kind of quiet from the gasket mounting but louder than this imo. I just wouldn’t buy a $400 board. I’d go up to $500 or $600 to get the top tier- merisi sessacantique type boards. The availability is where link wins but if that’s the only thing.. go down in cost and save moneu
@ryu3921 2 жыл бұрын
what’s the fork looking thing used to insert switches at 3:21?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
plate fork, you can 3d print your own or buy from feng studio
@keagan5379 2 жыл бұрын
Now we only need sushi roll tofu
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
i just need the sushi i'm hungry
@dedy4862 2 жыл бұрын
Tiger lite 🔥
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Big flames
@AIizs_ 10 ай бұрын
Make it plateless
@93ksj 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the PCB at my local sushi place before
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
damn they must have gotten a proto
@raychoi7037 2 жыл бұрын
Great! I do like your video. How can you answer all my questions without asked me? LOL.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
we're the same person, ray. obviously.
@2b2c1d2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank the lord I wasted my money on the promise87 instead of the link65
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
lol it's all disappearing regardlessssss
@2b2c1d2 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen bro when I grow up to be 30, I'm gonna regret all my life decisions
@danjan7405 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest. How hard do you type that you need that flex ?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
my fingers bench 315 lbs tyvm
@br0s1ve32 2 жыл бұрын
How is this compared to the Sangeo65? Very disappointing release but I expected it. Trying to be too unique, top mount/o ring/geon style still wins. Don’t see the hype in just another gasket mount with foam.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
This is more flexible. I keep hearing builds non sp star builds in sangeo 65 don’t slap
@br0s1ve32 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen I only tried jwks and mx blacks in my sangeo before I sold it, think mx blacks sound a bit worse than your sp star build. Only 65s I want is haus and kohaku, maybe mc65
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Kohaku is where my favor goes but Haus and merisi sessacantinque are solid runner ups
@br0s1ve32 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen fish keyboard spacebar is top tier, but 65s not my jam
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
same i just use my korn. using it rn spacebar could use use some tuning but it's so loud i can ignore it hahaa
@MisfireKB 2 жыл бұрын
Just kidding
@weesh4010 2 жыл бұрын
nice greasy hands. crushed. I hope that shoobs doesn't get his crused hands on one.
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I swore my hands were just medium greasy but this board making me doubt myself
@IronCan88 2 жыл бұрын
Andy went wild lubing the entire board
@WoahItsRuka 2 жыл бұрын
is this board from the Chinese GB or is it a prototype sent to you by Owllab for the upcoming GB?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Upcoming gb proto
@WoahItsRuka 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Damn thats really sasd to hear. Was seriously considering getting this but after this review? not going to. thanks
@KevinChoii Жыл бұрын
I really like the case aesthetics of the link65 but QK65 sounds much better imo. Unfortunate there isn't a combination of the two..
@micarta1556 2 жыл бұрын
Where da Weeng65!?
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
isn't that what the sangeo65 aka shark65 was? i dressed up for nothing?
@user-qn1zj5bs5p 2 жыл бұрын
i would buy this if they have link80
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
that much flex in a tkl might be too wild. notice how my vertex angle just like dove into the back of the case
@user-qn1zj5bs5p 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen personally i dont mind the flex at all , i just want the screwless style , by the way great video as always !
@minhduybui7676 2 жыл бұрын
so fingerprint you can wipe but sweat is meh 😅
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
No you have to erase fingerprints even
@minhduybui7676 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen yeah but when I use stuff with this material, fingerprint goes away but sweat does not 😭 have to wipe very hard
@Blasphemy4kidz 2 жыл бұрын
It looks pretty and I appreciate the attempt at innovation, but there are some glaring issues with the board - and for $400 it's not acceptable. This is a miss for me :(
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah last year every board was just poron gasket 65… so this is at least different but it’s really odd they went SS for the bottom case
@qtakuma9395 2 жыл бұрын
Notice me senpai
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
WITNESSED
@michaeljames1334 2 жыл бұрын
8th
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
did you eat 9?
@xkingmarti 2 жыл бұрын
first
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
WINNA