It's insane how good of a setup u can buy with how much a 360hz monitor cost

​@@Pepo..yeah

are 30hz monitors a thing?

Literally

You can get a 165hz monitor for $130. I know that’s still a lot for some people, but it’s not as insane as everyone thinks about it.

You should go buy a ps4, and then maybe you will become one of those yourselves? they play GTA at 30fps and don't care, they think it looks smooth.

@@sens_120ms they play gta at 60fps

​@@sens_120ms fps isnt hz....you need to distinguish. Just to add to this...because at some point it becomes important to distinguish between the fps of your game and the refresh rate of your monitor. And to his test...you clearly see difference but tests with pros suggest: a.) You not get a pro with your monitor and b.) muscle memories for compensating input delay of that particular point seem to fade at upwards of 120 (better 144hz) to be negligable. Important is fps, other lags of hardware, etc. They completely lack the important point, how the response times are on the 60hz monitor. While naturally faster displays respond faster.....but important also is the response time itself...and that not grey-to-grey bullshit but actual, proper response timings. So, the test isnt really professional and lacks knowledge...BUT as said: Usually they are faster, but there are 240 or even 300+hz monitors with ceazy bad hardware, bad response times, etc.

@@MrStubbs8157 Damn the comment section, I know all about refresh rate, fps, response time, overdrive, pixel skipping and etc, Im not a console guy, dw, As you was explaining, I know 360hz is worse than 240hz if response time, g2g, ghosting and shit is better on 240hz, Its typically what laptops dont quite get due to the thinner hardware, though I believe 360hz has caught back up to 240hz recently.

@@marceloktavianus766 you're wrong, it's a whole lot more than just fps and refresh rate, I alr know the stuff.

😂😂😂

bro that's me I've been using my laptop for over a year and I only realised I've been on 60Hz this whole time (120 possible) 💀 Let's just say I'm enjoying the new refresh rate

it’s happened too many damn times

@@wesomefac2140how do you change it

@@OmaeWaGacha lol then the experience must be like buying a new laptop.

Yeah, gimme

I got a 1440p 144hz for 250. 27 inches might I add. What a steal hug

Sceptre has pretty good monitors for theyre price, ive had a cheap curved monitor i bought years ago and has been with me all around the u.s. and is still perfect even now, im just looking for something bigger for a sim setup i wanna try out but on a budget

@@MADED1TS link ?

Broke ass

🤣

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@@anonymousesper9564 good eyes

pmsl

He was

Yeah, nearly everyone has high Hz now. Midwits don't turn it on in Windows settings.

​@@VeroxusI still have 30hz

@@rudolfsgillsyour just stupid

​@rudolfsgills you playing on a Nintendo 3ds?

@@Veroxusme with 75hz:

how

​@@tigeriily5059Maybe his mobile only supports 30hz refresh rate 😅

that doesn't make a differnce

@@coolmanthecool603 I see 😅

npc response@@SV_TUNZ

The marginal utility of refresh rate is exponential but the base is not greater than 1. ;)

@@Zenovarsevery smart :D

The Koorui 24E3 is $108 and it’s a 165hz, 1ms Ips panel with 99% sRGB. It’s a STEAL

144hz is dirt cheap

😂

​@@noobs371WHAT NO FUCKING WAY

@@dooblom It’s back at $109 I would pick it up if I was you, I’m gonna buy it

your eyesight is way more accurate than a camera tho so you’ll notice the difference without needing the speed change

@@gabrielescaramuzzoTrue but you still notice it way less than in this video, 60hz is just fine if you dont have the money for better or just dont wanna spend the money on arguably negligible difference

@@SatanMcLovin the difference in responsiveness isn’t as dramatic, the difference in smoothness is waaay bigger than the video. at this point 144hz costs not much more than 60 so if you still need to buy a new monitor you might as well go for that one, assuming you’re not out of budget already

@@gabrielescaramuzzo I dont agree with the difference but yeah, youd probably have a harder time finding a 60hz monitor than a 144hz but if you already have a 60hz monitor i dont think its worth buying a new one until your old one either breaks or lasts long enough that its completely obsolete but thats just the anti consumerism inside me.

@@SatanMcLovin it all depends on what your priorities are tbh, some games feel completely different on a high refresh rate monitor, some not as much. If you’re just browsing its obviously not worth it even though still very noticeable. And btw a high refresh rate monitor will last you just as much as a 60hz one, so easily 10-15 years, i wouldn’t really say you can’t still say fuck you to consumerism while enjoying the extra smoothness lol

And that's why I'm not gonna buy a new monitor until I have a good PC. Nowadays I'm happy with my 60Hz

Team 165hz!

Exactly

fax i got a 165hz monitor about 2 years ago from a 60hz tv and its a life changer

I dont care about frame rate as long as its more than 15

My friend keeps on saying that because our eyes can only see up to 30fps it's the dumbest thing I've heard

@@b0wking119 wtf 😂 thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard

@@redacted999 ikr 😂

​@@b0wking119I think it's 60? Then its like smooth. More and you won't see a difference, but there might be less delay. Less and you can probably see it isn't smooth

@@Qtuberbutnot you cant put human eyesight at a definite fps cause we see faster than any frame rate

right, it's simply a constant delay

I think he meant to say significantly or substantially ☝️🤓👍

Otherwise there will be no visible difference. What a stupid video xD

Because you watching this at your 60hz phone. That's why its get slowed. It's so obvious

@@MyFearGear I think you forget that KZfaq video compression also caps the framerate even if watching it on a 120hz phone. Also if you tried it in real life, you would notice the lag is actually a lot less perceptible.

@@chenghoetan1920 well, if you get used to 120hz+ you will def start seeing 60hz as the new 30fps

@@redgfxr4095 depends. Some people can't and thats why they forget their monitor refresh rate is at 60hz in windows. If it was that obvious people would have noticed if their display was defaulted to 60hz. Some people can see the difference.

I got a 240hz monitor too, it's a night and day difference.

I moved from 30hz to 240hz. My eyes are soo happy.

Got to try a 144hz monitor at my friend house once everything feel so god damn smooth

@@ricelordalt9183 144hz is the goat

is it worth it for a non-gamer? i play but casually and not so often. I mostly do office work.

@@noc427 it's worth it, you can get a 1080p 144hz monitor for 100 bucks

Especially when you go back to 60hz

disagree. I have a 4k 60hz, 1080p 75hz, and another 1080p 165hz and I personally prefer the a "cheap" 4k tv at 60hz over my 1080p gaming monitor at 165hz. 165hz only looks better when you're moving your mouse around. For gaming, it doesn't make that much of a huge difference unless you're playing competitive games, which I do not.

@@thelonercoder5816u understand u, i used to have a 165hz monitor sold it to buy a 4K 55” nanoled tv best thing i did (i only play single player titles w controller)

@@thelonercoder5816bravo well said, your mouse is really the only thing that looks slow, and anyone’s gonna run full graphics, so it’s not that much of an issue

@@thelonercoder5816bruh

This☝️

And your personal response time matters as well. 600fps won't help if you have the reflexes of a sloth

And also if have bad ddr memory timings and frequency it will cause latency problems on all monitors and refresh rates. For example you cap your fps to your refresh rate and get 120 fps on both systems but they aren't the same 120fps if each frame is slightly delayed by bad timings. You could basically make the same looking video with both monitors on 120hz but one with optimized RAM and one without.

Tbh, I think it's kinda subtle. I have a 144hz and there's not of a difference compared to the 60

Whats the difference

there us a huge difference

There will be no difference if your game runs at 60FPS or less.

@@p00lkingMake sure you actually have your monitor set to 144hz, I see people all the time that say this and then it turns out they never changed the setting to actually make it 144hz.

Just overclock the 60 to 75

I once had 75hz and made an impactful experience from me, now I'm back to 60hz as 75hz gave up on me :(

Yes I have one that can go to 74.98hz

I miss my 75hz experience, don't have the budget to upgrade my monitor! I'm using a television that has 1366x768 as a monitor for 7years 60hz btw @@stevie-g-123

@@Sequkoloverclock your 60hz to 74hz

Lmk how 165hz feels imma get one too in a week from now

@@noobs371 bro its a big change, i had the 75hz for a while and i thought it was okay but then when i went from 165hz games ran smoother, and i have a 1ms response time so it feels much better it’s definitely worth it

of course it is i bought asus tuff i had 60 hz samsung and the display va panel fullhd and 120hz feels great@@joker12th

@@joker12thcan you set it at 130 and tell me if you notice any difference between that and 165? I’m wondering if I’m missing out on anything getting 130 only (120 base but it’s over clocked if you’re wondering about the weird refresh rate)

Trust me if you can, buy a 300hz

he was trying his hardest out there

This why affordable OLED monitors need to become a thing. I watch most movies on my phone because the colors and black levels are sooooo much better than any LCD in my house.

Most lcd gaming monitors are 1ms or 0.5ms response time. OLED has a much larger delay hence why it isn’t used for gaming monitors

@@loganmoynagh1109 The opposite, OLED has instant response time tied to the refresh rate (sample and hold blur), LCD has sample & hold blur plus the LCD crystals that blur the image.

It’s because it’s slowed down footage

@@flipdry look at the ktc m27t20 its a mini led which has comparable contrast to an oled monitor but its $450 on newegg

😂

understandable

because you never felt above 75hz after you tase 120above you never want to go back

@@arfianwismiga5912 i saw 120hz, it looks smoother,but 60 is enough

​@@arfianwismiga5912 welp only if you play completive games then maybe. But I only play single player games so 60hz is still plenty for me.

i agree for this but i think this man uses 2 the same monitors but its not logical if he downgrades the refresh rate that its latency goes up. he must doing something like setting the monitor on energy saving mode to higher its latency

​@@kanalkanali The 2 panels are the same, I think windows is automatically in a constant state of vsync ever since win 7. So think of it like this. The duration between frames at 60 hz is 16.66667ms and 144hz is 6.944445ms. When you move your mouse there is an equal chance to start moving the mouse early in that 16 ms than not. And if you did, the panel isn't drawing anything new until the NEXT cycle. But the 144hz in the second panel has the time to draw 2 complete frames in that time span. But on the OS side of things, windows is also synced to the faster refresh rate, not the slower one. Sooo it is actually registering the physical movement in between refresh rate cycles of the 'slower' monitor. Making it look like not only is the image smoother, but quicker latency too. Although if you've used a phone with variable or multiple refresh rates you might actually notice that different modes also effect colour reproduction and subsequently latency too. So EVEN with the exact same display. Latency could be drastically different depending on the refresh rate set. Being optimised for one doesn't mean the other doesn't intrinsically leave the panel with the same latency. And the latency is never perfectly (1000ms/hz), that's just the absolute minimum. With all that. TL:DR yes, changing JUST the refresh rate changes latency on the exact same display/s.

Lower refresh rate itself means higher delay, a 60hz monitor will show you a new picture in every 16,6666ms, while a 144hz one will do it every 6.94444ms, but it’s the same delay as you saw in monitor specs, that one is the time which the monitor need to show a picture it already got from the graphics card. You could have 2 60hz monitor with different delays, I had a setup with an old 1080p 60hz tv and a fairly basic 60hz monitor, you could easy tell just by looking at it that the tv had like a half second delay compared to the m because the electronics in the display have to process the data from the gpu, can’t simply just show it as it is

don't agree, wasting money on "low latency" 60-90Hz monitors is useless, better to get a regular 144Hz one, will feel way smoother, and still have lower latency

@@M1szS you could also get a 144hz monitor with higher latency, you might not feel it as much, but if you want to play any kind of kompetetive game, it matter a lot

Absolutely different parameters. A 120hz va can have much worse ghosting than a 60hz ips. Overshoot is dependent on the correct overdrive setting. And input delay... Well, that's another thing.

strobing your backlight can help reduce motion blur

Why so I should not get one. Because I play almost only story games. And there the motion blur stays on.

ive got too much network lag to be properly worrying about gpu to screen lag lol

​@@lulu111_the_cool Motion blur can still be on, but it won't be as egregious. It will just feel more realistic and less confusing. Motion blur on low refresh rate panels is vomit inducing for me, but it's great on high refresh rate panels.

Our eyes can almost always tell the difference between 60hz and 144hz I have i'd say decent eyes and i can notice a slight stutter when i compare a 144hz to 270hz its just hard to say "our eyes can only see this resolution" or "our eyes can only see this much hz" because we are way more complex

youtube videos cap at 60 fps, if you were seeing them side by side in person there'd be no need

@@fatphokingloser if you like wasting money, sure. Theres 120hz players on leaderboards on pretty much every competitive game, let alone console mfs on 60hz. 240hz wouldn't make as big of a difference as you think it does.

@@fatphokingloser it’s a minimum, *for you.* I can also tell the difference between 120 and 240, but I don’t get headaches at anything under 100 lmfao. If you genuinely get headaches under 100, and you aren’t exaggerating, you need a doctor bro. I’ve been gaming for like a whole decade and a half, mostly at 120hz, even then I really don’t mind gaming at 60, is it a bit annoying at first? Yeah but I get used to it in like 5 mins.

The single player games in question: Geometry Dash, and uh Geometry Dash

@@HyperNova808 well obviously by single player games I meant graphically intensive casual story based games, but even with Geometry Dash, there's no real need to go past 120.

@@Qwty163 I was making a joke anyway and you’re mostly right, but many people do upgrade (myself included) to make the game more responsive

True AF, I want a good panel but I want a high color accurate monitor too though

facts. i wanted to buy the new samsung m8 cuz it‘s perfect looking but 60hz..

funny thing is that 4k monitors are easy to get personally i couldnt find gaming monitor which would have 4k and 24 inch while there is asus tuff 28 inch 4k but 6o hz

Maybe wouldn't go as far as say it doesn't matter but it does for me at least, matters less in non competitive single player games. I'll take higher graphic fidelity with 60fps in single player games. However I do think 30fps is too low.

I’ve seen people say you can’t see above 24 fps so no people definitely say it doesn’t matter

brother, I overclocked my 60hz laptop display to 90 hz, the difference was insane for me as well. If you haven't experienced a higher refresh rate monitors then don't talk shit

its so expensive and i wont spend all this money on a monitor... like... there are better stuff to buy

That's why footage is 25% slowed down

and it is really true. When you see screens with a refresh rate higher than 60, you actually do not see a refresh rate higher than 60, but it is a quick response to actual movement, and to be logical, play with a frame rate of 60 and keep your screens at a refresh rate of 144hz You will see a very choppy image, but lower the screen refresh rate to 60hz You will find the game fast and smoother

@@Drawi.560 What about 60fps on 120hz it should be ok. At least on 60hz monitor 120fps is ok but for example 90 or 80 gets choppy. On 144Hz monitor try cap fps to 72 and see if it works better than 60.

Not unnecessary, it is always more comfortable for brain to follow smoother framed animation, but it is not worth it, more Hz requires also more FPS, so the whole system will cost a lot, but regular player will not get as much of benefit for the price he will pay for such hardware. If simplify.

You only need it if you are a hardcore in fps games lmao, its not that we are going to watch a movie at 300 hz 😂

It has some appeal but 60 is still the standard it's hard to get used to 240hz when you mainly see it on Fortnite or CS and then you go to Cyberpunk or Alan wake 2 and not even a 4090 can achieve those frames on high settings. Given on steam survey the most average gpu is the 3060 yeah I can't recommend people buy above 144hz

You nmonky need 120hz or higher in faced paced games. Games like minecraft, or gta, which don't require much camera movement, high refresh rate won't give much of a change.

Some people can't afford at least 144hz monitor, then saying 60hz is enough. I am using 144hz and when I try going back to 60hz, it is giving me eyesore and migraine.

You are right. 30 the way to go

My guy commenting his monitors specs individually 😂

100%. For competitive gaming though it’s recommended/necessary to have 120hz after that there no point of going higher refresh rate

LOL yeah it's fine for chess

@@Blox117chess 240 fps superior 😊

I get sick moving a cursor under 240hz

it isn't important for playing games at all

What the fuck are you talking about

Who even plays on mobile lmao

​@@Josher_C.fr that shi aint fun

High refresh rates monitors are mostly for competitive games anyway that can push upto hundreds of fps on mid range PCs.

​@@alieffauzanrizky72021440p 240hz is for my 7900xtx. Pushes like 200-400 fps in most games. Most ridiculous gpu I've ever bought

@seethe72 well yeah, if you have a 1050ti you probably shouldn't be buying a 240hz monitor unless you only play light esports titles. But anything above a 3080, you should probably have either a 4k 60hz or 1080p/1440p high refresh rate monitor, otherwise you're just wasting your gpu power.

I prefer framerate over graphics. Just a personal preference

Went from a TV to running 1600x1200 at 85hz on a 21" IBM trinitron CRT. Sadly the flyback went out so now I'm running a 144hz mini led monitor. Feels Fantastic and looks stunning.

True but still some people think it's hard to notice the difference because they never tried it

Now I've started using OLED Smart glasses. 120hz with 0 pixel lag. No ghosting and colours are even better than CRT. Best thing is I get to use it anywhere. Now I can play on my laptop in any position with the lid closed and using wireless. literally lying flat in bed under the covers to keep warm with the exhaust blowing warm air at me with a nice cup of tea and a purring kitty ontop. Best fucking feeling on earth.

it's called a TWO monitor setup. But ok ig.

Go to work man.

@@wizwille2146 IF I COULD I WOULD IM FUCKING 14

@@_Q9-you could work at mcdonald’s rn

​@@_Q9-you can, you're just a lazy child. When I was 13 I was going to the tomato greenhouses to work there.

@@GroteGlon hahahaha i wish i could find a job, i live in a big city there are not much options for me basically none and how do you assume that im lazy thats just a cocky thing to say

It's slowed to 25% to show what's happening to your slowed to 25% brain.

It's to show you the difference....

@@angelaizen2231 Ad nominem isnt a good argument

it’s just to highlight the difference for the video. if youre gaming, 60hz simply doesn’t cut it anymore, it’s also not like 140hz monitors are significantly more expensive.

yea bc hes gonna show the difference between 240hz and 60hz on a 60fps video

You’re kinda good forever, all you really need is 120-144hz after that the difference is minimal so 240hz is pointless really unless you’re super competitive

@@noobs371 between 1ms and 4 ms there is many differences for competitive game like valorant ?

​@@ktn772no but be aware thoose manufacture specs aren't accurate,there are tech reviewers that do test them in realistic scenarios like Hardware Unboxed for example that's where you can get some real answers and not spec sheet bollocks highly innacurate

​@noobs371 165 to 240 is absolutely a noticeable difference to me, not necessarily night and day but I can easily tell them apart.

That's what i want. I only have a 3060ti so I don't want to overspend on a monitor that I won't be able to get the most out of. It's either gonna be 4k 60hz or 2k 144hz (maybe 120?)

@@JakobeOG I got two 27inch 1440p 144hz monitors and it is wonderful (upgraded from 1080p 60hz) I wouldn't chose 4K monitor unless you have really good graphics card. and don't go more than 27inch monitor on 2K resolution.

would you say a 144hz monitor is worth it for office work ?

@noc427 no why would anyone need more than 60hz for office work? The cost for 144hz is almost double for what 60hz monitors go for

@@JakobeOG I've heard that the higher the refresh rate, the more restful it is for your eyes or something like that. I've never used a high-refresh-rate monitor so idont know

You can get a 240 hz monitor for less then $200 these days. Spend a couple hundred more and you can get a pretty premium experience along with it. Displays are dirt cheap

Prob havent even set it in the settings

Of course you have all those high refresh rates and still prefer 60 hz very true

You need to set your refresh rate to max after plugging in 😂😂😂

sure bro

Odd, I can instantly tell 60hz from 144hz just by using it for 5 seconds. 60 just feels and looks choppy and much less smooth. It's the biggest leap in look and feel

​@@RemedieXfr

You're the type of person why these video's are needed

You can still tell the difference even without slow motion

120hz is enough if you are not into eSports(which most people aren't)

over a youtube video that caps at 60 fps yes

He slowed down the video

Damn, my phone has more hz than that 😅

I have 120 hz

You can set playback yourself. But anyhow, since KZfaq only plays videos at 60 frames per second, you wouldn't be able to see the difference.