Enjoy! And yes. it's okay if you don't agree with me. We'll both survive it 😂 Thanks to MKBHD for inspiring this video idea! / @mkbhd Subscribe for part 2 next week where I list some of MY unpopular Transformers opinions :)
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@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Oh boy these comments about to get spicy 😂🥵
@TyrannosaurusTheKing Жыл бұрын
Be careful of the bee man he doesn’t like to talk to people who think his film is overrated that it just saved a franchise from the last knight(but respect your opinion)
@SilentSniperF19 Жыл бұрын
This may sound crazy I am not really into the masterpiece figures that much not saying that I hate them far from it they look cool but if I bought one I would have no idea where to put it bc my bedroom has basically no more space
@icyhotflash Жыл бұрын
Can you do more shorts pls
@Squishyk9 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this counts as a hot take but the ROTB and Bumblebee movie have the best Bumblebee design
@MaxwellWurme Жыл бұрын
@@SilentSniperF19 I feel the same way I’d rather buy five generations figures
@hogunthegrim5464 Жыл бұрын
Michael Bay is the reason why a new generation of fans get to hear Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime.
@bradensmith8682 Жыл бұрын
I often wonder if it was any other director if Gary Chalk would've been the Live Action Optimus due to him being the character for the late 90s and early 00s. I wouldn't have minded it, but it would be very weird in comparison.
@ilikepigeons6101 Жыл бұрын
did the guy voice act other characters aside form the donkey from whinnie the pooh?
@anotherrandomguy8871 Жыл бұрын
I love both the movies and the g1 cartoon. If it wasn’t for the movies, I wouldn’t have been a fan and I might have wouldn’t have even discovered G1 if the movies didn’t exist.
@braydenpage1808 Жыл бұрын
Bayverse Transformers 1-3 were awesome (2 less so but it's not a horrible movie). 4 & 5 are ok.
@thomasjohnson1885 Жыл бұрын
Very true but also lead to a misconception to Optimus being a stoic kill machine not a kind gentle father figure that shoots basketball. Cullen even only does the movie voice not the G1 gentler charismatic one
@thelandshark7934 Жыл бұрын
Ultra magnus is underrated and needs to be in a live action movie
@weewoo695 Жыл бұрын
True
@thechevy1978 Жыл бұрын
That's not a hot take, it's a fact
@QuintheQuesadilla Жыл бұрын
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@bread4869 Жыл бұрын
YES WE NEED TRANSFORMERS TO ADD A DISGUISE AUTOBOT
@gazmanedits Жыл бұрын
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@Squiddy690 Жыл бұрын
Whoever said Peter Cullen shouldn’t voice Optimus prime should really see a therapist
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
😂 No kidding
@bjornzechariahgualiza8124 Жыл бұрын
Ikr the dude almost voiced optimus,the guy who said peter cullen shouldnt voice optimus prime is cuckoo crazy
@kagamiryo615 Жыл бұрын
REAL
@Darkstar431 Жыл бұрын
I hope the person who said that he shouldn't voice him steps on legos every day for the rest of their life
@papermelon10 ай бұрын
@@Darkstar431bro is stone cold ☠️
@MaxMax-ok1ek Жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of the bayverse its what got me into transformers, then I started watching G1, a couple years later then prime, now im watching shows like unicron trilogy and a couple of siege episodes. I agree with you that people shouldn't bully others if they like something different. There's more to life than Transformers.
@greendemon905 Жыл бұрын
You're watching the Unicron trilogy? Good luck! Energon to me is the bottom of the barrel for the franchise. A show so incredibly dull, I can't even remember most of the things that happened in it!
@MaxMax-ok1ek Жыл бұрын
@@greendemon905 I watch a couple of episodes so far I really like it.
@greendemon905 Жыл бұрын
@@MaxMax-ok1ek Glad you like it. The lifeless CGI models and the very existence of Kicker make me never want to see it again.
@Hankhawashere Жыл бұрын
There needs to be more styilized designs for toys and cartoons characters, like transformers prime. The g1 designs are good but they need to be less blocky and a bit more sleek.
@Voidbleak Жыл бұрын
*This.* I can't stress this enough, I learned to like and even love some G1 designs, they are iconic sure, but for the love of GOD, not everything NEEDS to be g1 inspired or have the same blocky shapes. The reason Transformers as a whole survived through the years is because they changed and adapted, but now all of a sudden everything is G1 this and G1 that. C'mon, we like variety too.
@bradensmith8682 Жыл бұрын
Legacy waves 1 and 2 are a great example of this. Hasbro knew they weren't cutting it simply G1-ing characters like Arcee and Knockout, and now they're beginning to add more curves and flares to figures like Animated Prowl, Skyquake, and others going forward.
@Kaiju-bm4ts Жыл бұрын
@@bradensmith8682 that's still not entirely good when tf prime figures of all things SHOULDN'T get g1 make overs. Skyquake as a g1 inspired figure works surprisingly well but he was better off looking closer to how he did in the actual show, same with animated prowl.
@giovonniiclayton Жыл бұрын
@@Kaiju-bm4ts hasbro should’ve just made show accurate prime and animated characters instead of what we got because what we got was g1 washed versions of the characters that took away the personality of the characters
@lesterantenor1026 Жыл бұрын
The blocky designs are meh
@youtubewontletmehavemyusername Жыл бұрын
It's so refreshing to hear someone say G1 isn't actually all that good
@onitgraff Жыл бұрын
That’s like saying the Super Nintendo sucks compared to the ps5
@mrzirak792 Жыл бұрын
Same with TFP
@davidshramek635711 ай бұрын
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@idratherhidethat603311 ай бұрын
@@mrzirak792no
@youtubewontletmehavemyusername11 ай бұрын
@@onitgraff but pepole relise supernintendo isnt better then a ps5 g1 fans think g1 is better then eny thing
@CaptainFordoCanonizingCommitee Жыл бұрын
You want a Hot Take? I'LL GIVE YOU A HOT TAKE! CLIFFJUMPER IS BETTER THAN BUMBLEBEE AND DOESN'T DESERVE LIVING IN HIS SHADOW!
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
😂 okay I hear ya
@SirMemesLong Жыл бұрын
I did not expect the bumblebee movie hot takes, I honestly really like the film and is by far the best transformers movie without a doubt, (At least in my opinion). If you come into the movie expecting cool action scenes and none stop fighting then you will find it disappointing. The cybertron scene actually hurts the film more then it does help. Also, Yes Bay prime is fucking cool but it just rubs me the wrong way hearing that since it completely defies what his character was supposed to represent. It hurts even more hearing the interview with Cullen's brother saying to peter to not be a hollywood hero which is what exactly what bay prime is.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
A lot of people consider bumblebee the best TF movie, so you're definitely not alone. But I don't hate it for the lack of action, I hate it because the story and character feel like some of the corniest, laziest things put to film in the last decade lol. It's such an uninspired and cringy plot and character development for me.
@StormX6 Жыл бұрын
I really liked Bumblebee. People hate on it because it didn’t have as much action, but I felt like that was a positive. With the Bayverse movies, I felt like at times it was TOO MUCH action that kept going on and on. Bumblebee had a much more simpler story, sometimes less it more. To me, I also liked Charlie a lot, she had great development with Bumblebee
@thrusttheconehead5369 Жыл бұрын
Same here. But I loved the Cybertron scene. I loved the designs too even though it’s G1. I agree on your take on bayverse prime. Not everything has to be G1, but I did appreciate what hasbro has given us about it. I like both bayverse and G1. Edit: Regardless if Bumblebee’s mediocre or not, it’s better than the last knight.
@plaguefellow4956 Жыл бұрын
I love the bumblebee movie the bay verse movies annoyed me ever since I watched a video about how through a different perspective the deceptions were the good guys and how the human characters are some of the most insufferable parasites or creatures and it made a lot of sense to me and fixed most plot holes if you consider the autobots to be a untruthful narrator.
@raphaeldagamer Жыл бұрын
I like the way Diamondbolt handled his hot takes: at least once that I know of, he walked into his room as "the opinion police" when he said that Transformers Prime's version of Optimus Prime was a boring character.
@optimusprime-i5h Жыл бұрын
He also did that in the beast machines episode
@raphaeldagamer Жыл бұрын
@@optimusprime-i5h thank you I was hoping to find out what he meant by "not again" in the Prime one.
@dustinfelix3495 Жыл бұрын
I think it's telling that everytime you spoke up to defend the Bay films, it was to praise the mans very real skill in shot composition, framing and sound design, but never once mentioned a personality or story element that clicked more than the comics or various cartoons. I agree, Bay movies are probably the best the Transformers will even pull off "looking real". Accross all the films, the only thing that permenantly added to Transformers stories was... The Allspark Cube. No character, event, or personality presentation has ever filtered back to become a new normal or recurring element. It's... a really expensive and disjointed rearrangment of franchise elements with absolutely nothing to add onto the series as a whole. At least Animated gave us Bulkhead and the link between Ultra Magnus and hammers that was a thing for like 5 years there...
@swordigosung994 Жыл бұрын
I think modern Barricade and Blackout can count as Bayverse characterization that have become staple.
@Susi092 Жыл бұрын
One thing that unfortunately has become a staple from those movies is bumblebees radio voice
@swordigosung994 Жыл бұрын
@@Susi092 Forgot about it. I think it is a unique trait for a transformer, but maybe suit someone else better.
@bobbyfish4899 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the bay films are this fandom’s man of steel equivalent
@dustinfelix3495 Жыл бұрын
@swordigosung994 Oh, fair! I beleive Barricade was in the old War for Cybertron game and Blackout got art for Animated... did they show up anywhere else? Just curious at this point!
@amalgamorthefallenking11 ай бұрын
Rotb wheeljack had a good design. It really worked with the robots in disguise, rather than Michael Bay's sporty cars. I like the concept, the voice and personality just kind of broke it for me and for the record I don't hate all the Nice cars Michael Bay used, we did get some good designs out of them.
@The_Barroth Жыл бұрын
FOR ITS TIME Beast Wars had revolutionary cgi but we can all be honest that it really hasn’t aged well (note: I actually like the animation) Then again its fantastic storytelling and characters is what’s getting people coming back to it all these years later
@sharkydude9164 Жыл бұрын
Honesty it’s fine but in my opinion isn’t really worth going back to and there are many other cartoons with much better story telling and characters such as gravity falls that I would rather watch
@RetroDark2008 Жыл бұрын
@@sharkydude9164 Dude, its ok and worth it to go back. Not everything has to be the best. Don't limit your scope to the top teir modern cartoons. Also beast wars at times is better than gravity falls.
@MaxwellWurme Жыл бұрын
Rhinox makes me feel nauseous in beast wars I can’t freaking look at him
@Raziel312 Жыл бұрын
Beast Wars had the second saddest character death in Transformers history.
@bradensmith8682 Жыл бұрын
I've never cared for good graphics or high fidelity art styles, either in video games or animation, so BW will never turn me off. But I also grew up with friends who couldn't play anything if the graphics were "bad", and I always wanted the media I loved to be remastered so they could enjoy it too.
@lucasurquiza554 Жыл бұрын
I have a weird one: transformers having the same name but having otherwise little in common is a staple of the franchise and shouldn’t be seen as a surprise when it happens. Other than Optimus, Starscream and Megatron, all characters have had incarnations that are completely different from the original versions, and this comes from way before the Bay films.
@RealMisterWhite Жыл бұрын
girl skywarp supremacy
@SuperThunderbrain5 ай бұрын
Wheeljack and Battletrap in ROTB
@optimascrime5235 Жыл бұрын
That burp after when you saw that comment after someone saying TLK is the best transformers movie is pretty much my reaction when hearing that from another human being😂
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
The only correct response 😂
@Tyrellbateman Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as per usual but my only point of contention is the beast wars design. They’re among some of my favorites in the franchise. I feel like season 1 designs were the best and they slowly got worse with every season though
@selimtrev720 Жыл бұрын
I agree that Beast Wars has probably the best designs in this franchise. Although, I do disagree on them being worse each season. I absolutely adore the later designs like Rampage, Depth Charge, Optimal Optimus, TM 1 and 2 Megatron, TM 1 Rattrap, Silverbolt, TM Blackarachnia, TM 1 Tarantulas, etc.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoy the designs! But I can barely look at them because they make me cringe so hard 😂every family member/friend I've ever shown laughs out loud when I show them because they think it's a joke lollll
@Liquidplantium9 ай бұрын
I thought the TM design were cool when I watched it as a kid, even got quite a few figures from that series. However they don't age well, looking back, the only good one is probably red dragon Megatron. Wished I could have brought that one.
@shona-sof Жыл бұрын
Rumble was one of the first Transformer toys I ever got as a kid. He was red. The cartoon naming confused me and felt like an error. Turns out it _was_ an error. if you look up the original cartoon design sheets, it even says the red one is Rumble. HOWEVER that being said, if you grew up used to the cartoon naming scheme and Rumble is the blue one to you that's cool too! Rumble is still superior to Frenzy no matter the color scheme!
@minejack7773 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see another one of these videos sometime! It was really fun hearing your opinions on, well, everyone else's opinions, even the non opinions/poorly articulated/weak ones. Your editing really makes everything pop, and turns even the most bland screenshots into something interesting! Def one of the best 'hot take review' videos I've seen in a long time :)
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
This is a golden compliment, thanks so much man! I’ll hopefully be dropping part 2 for this next week sometime :)
@Jayz457 Жыл бұрын
FYI more people should read the IDW comics, Last stand of the wreckers and the solo Kup. Unrelated the new WheelJack is hated my Latinos since it is racist ( what is racist to ablation is not the same to someone outside of the culture). Skids and Mudflap the second coming. It is not the design but the personality that really pisses people off.
@selimtrev720 Жыл бұрын
The IDW comics are truly the best piece of media in TF. MTMTE is my most favourite comic series.
@bradensmith8682 Жыл бұрын
Live Action Autobots love appropriating human culture.
@adrianl7701 Жыл бұрын
@@selimtrev720 Same! Glad to meet another MTMTE fan.
@hiimnameless5520 Жыл бұрын
Here's some of mine; bayverse fans also suffer from mob mentality. There's a difference between enjoying the franchise and enjoying the characters
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
I agree, there's too many fans who just say "they're all great movies" as if we can't separate that statement into which ones were good. However I've rarely, if ever, seen Bay movie fans visiting other G1 topic videos and fan forums to trash on it and say "BAYVERSE IS THE ONLY GOOD THING IN TRANSFORMERS" the way G1 fans do. So while Bay fans can be annoying, they're not bullies.
@hiimnameless5520 Жыл бұрын
@papermelon and I have. countless times, I've seen bayverse fans bash other shows because the thought of redempeming the decepticons instead of killing them without mercy was entertained. Then you have the whole earthspark debacle, where people were saying a fictional character should die a horrible death because they're non-binary, with bayverse optimus being they're so called peak of transformers.
@hassanrao470 Жыл бұрын
Honestly my unpopular opinion is that rotb is trash. Rotb just feels like such a shallow, empty, and corperate movie that just has a bland story with bland characters I can't be bothered to carea about. Watching rotb made me appreciate how much of a master Bay was at creating that grand sense of scale and spectacle. I took that feeling of awe I got after watching a transformers movie for granted and only after seeing ROTB do I understand it takes a master to make you feel that way. Also I'm not on the more toxic side of the fandom so just going off my experiences but I think that people suck up to hasbro too much. It's hard to give a single criticism without someone saying "WeLl AcTuAlLy, BeCaUsE oF tHe BuDgEt LiMiTaTiOnS...". I understand there are usually reasons for compromises but that doesn't mean I can't point them out and acknowledge their existence. And I can get annoyed that a figure didn't turn out well or say that I don't like it. And lastly, I think ROTF (and AOE to a lesser extent) are very entertaining and fun movies. ROTF has that typical bay camp and AOE has some great moments and one of my favorite TF story ideas. Even if you don't agree about AOE, you ahve to admit that the forest fight and Shanghai scene are two of the best pieces of transformers media period.
@giovonniiclayton Жыл бұрын
After watching rise of the beast a second time and coming down from transformers hype the film is mid as hell and the plot armor is so blatant like the bumblebee movie and for some reason paramount can’t come out with it that it’s a reboot honestly I wouldn’t preferred it if 4 and 5 got redconed as a alternative time line after dark of the moon have Michael bay direct the action scenes and cinematography and have a actual good writing team
@giovonniiclayton Жыл бұрын
Even tho I didn’t like Aoe and rotf objectively taking off my nostalgia glasses. They had great moments Shanghai scene,forest battle,optimus vs grimlock,dinobot charge,and the fallen introduction at the beginning of rotf and the osts and scores for all five films are amazing to listen to. And the fandom sucking up to hasbro is too true the legacy prime and animated figures being g1 catered,rise of the beast taking 5 years with delays only to turn out mid and we only have inaccurate figures to represent these characters is unacceptable
@BurnPerimeter Жыл бұрын
I mostly agree, but I'd say it started to redeem itself in the fight scenes
@dracorexdatslatin4806 Жыл бұрын
I found your channel like yesterday after seeing ROTB which reinvigorated my transformers passion and I love your sense of humor. EZ sub
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Ah this warms my heart, welcome to the channel! Glad to have ya 😃
@Territrixy Жыл бұрын
Tf 2 was pretty good and I don’t see the twins as rascist
@selimtrev720 Жыл бұрын
I thought TF 2 was pretty bad, it quite literally had no script at all, and the Fallen was just a boring villain. For me, the only redeeming part of the movie is the forest battle which is my most favourite Bayverse fight scene. Also, the Twins were probably not seen as racist by TF fans, but regular movie goers like families and such thought that it was racist.
@aidanconnor2274 Жыл бұрын
You might not see them as racist, but two characters who speak in ways stereotypical of “black gang members”, while Tom Kenny voices one of them, who have large ears, eyes, and golden buck teeth seem pretty damn bad
@Daniel_G_2003 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, having the two black coded characters in your film not being able to read, depicted with sterotyped voices and appearances was not racist at all...
@rexfortoast1777 Жыл бұрын
Smells like nostalgia ☠️
@Kirby666. Жыл бұрын
No yeah it’s a pretty good game. I don’t see how it’s racist. Maybe demo man can be a little iffy but overall it holds up well.
@ihatemegatron216 Жыл бұрын
I personally use a fan term to refer to gatekeeping g1 fans. Those individuals are geewunners while everyone else who is a fan of G1 and doesn't gatekeep are g1 fans.
@jacobthecarno433 Жыл бұрын
G2 laser optimus is peak optimus design
@Bluethedino0 Жыл бұрын
I like how bumblebee and rise of the beasts still sticked to the source material and had its changes btw g1 designs are mid (if u are dumb mid isnt bad its supposed to be in the middle)
@geomeopeoleo174010 ай бұрын
G1 designs were interesting, Bumblebee when he became Goldbug literally just changed his color to gold. I love bumblebee so much, but Goldbug is really funny.
@hersryanimations1095 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much valid but the bumblebee attack is something I will not stand for.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
😂
@biojosh398 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely love the content you make mate. Please keep em coming, it's great to see such professionally made videos about our hobby!
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Such a nice compliment, thanks man!
@jarakotsu Жыл бұрын
My Hot Takes: -Energon wasn't that bad -We need more unique take on Starscream in future cartoons/movies (similar to Armada) -Hasbro should collaborate with Studio Trigger to make a Transformers anime series
@omgepicjesh4990 Жыл бұрын
honestly beast wars doesnt look half bad, i feel as if it adds to the show and it stands out. imo none of the transformers look bad (in beast wars), the humans though? oh boy thats awful
@ilikepigeons6101 Жыл бұрын
Beast wars is amazing, tho i feel like it took a bat to its kneecap when it introduced the transmetal designs to the autobots lol, why do the bad guys always look cooler lmao
@omgepicjesh4990 Жыл бұрын
@@ilikepigeons6101 I don't think transmetal was that bad, but the season 1 designs are definitely best. optimal Optimus is awesome tho
@trashboat5388 Жыл бұрын
@@ilikepigeons6101 Some of TMs look really cool like rattrap and cheetor
@user-iz8qc3yj5o9 ай бұрын
He took the Peter Collin thing seriously I love this guy. Also what’s generation 1?
@NoGoodDirtyRicer5 ай бұрын
G1 is the 80’s cartoon and movie, the original TF media.
@giovonniiclayton Жыл бұрын
This video is great definitely would watch a part 2
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@giovonniiclayton Жыл бұрын
@@papermelon your welcome but you were right on the money with the bumblebee movie that film was overrated just like the 1986 movie
@pizzathehut2264 Жыл бұрын
Hey I loved campiness and designs of beast wars! But true it didn’t age well.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@d.sblack5900 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to reviewers you and Emgo are the only ones I’ve never seen go full on hateful when reviewing a figure.
@ravan85 Жыл бұрын
In today's movie standards, ROTF will be celebrated...look at how bad CGI are these days, comparing the CGI in ROTF, it is still miles better than current movieS CGI standards
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
I rewatched ROTF last night and couldn't believe how stunning the CGI looks. What a spectacle
@mikwinner_beats Жыл бұрын
My heart actually dropped on the Peter Cullen one 😭
@God_Speed_Solos Жыл бұрын
TFA prime is the best Optimus Ever. he is the perfect example of how to change a character and still be true to the original, in the fact that he's young and Dosent know everything yet, But He is compassionate, He doesn't even kill a single transformer, instead shows them mercy, and at the end His character gets the "Matrix" Ans becomes the True leader.
@_Vaal_Hazak_ Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Dorito Starscream over his G1 design Revenge of the Fallen is literally my all time favorite movie The Decepticons were the good guys in the Bay Trilogy Hugo Weaving was just as good of a Megatron as Frank Welker War For Cybertron Trilogy Elita-1 is hotter than ROTB Arcee
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Hot dog these are some spicy ones 😭
@BurnPerimeter Жыл бұрын
ROTB Arcee's voice just doesn't suit right for me. Also WHY the hell do they all have such goddamn corny ass lines????? I just could not take them seriously for a good portion of the movie.
@Arrivederchi683 Жыл бұрын
Bumblebee is mid Rotf isn’t that bad Bayverse prime is the best prime G1 isn’t good
@FunnyMichael69dyourmum Жыл бұрын
ROTF is shit, no matter your opinion on it. It's only good for spectacle. Also there's like a bazilion other Optimus' better than bayverse.
@tonyfiorilli2270 Жыл бұрын
The "G1 fan" stuff you discuss is literally the same thing as people who say their favorite band(s) "sold out" or their "first album was their best album" and everything they made after that sucks.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
My gosh this is such a good comparison 😭I'm using this lol
@twister107 Жыл бұрын
6:15 I don’t hate Bayverse Optimus. I respect peoples opinions on it, personally I’m not a big fan. But there was a point where Bayverse Optimus made even Peter Cullens uncomfortable and that was in DOTM when Optimus said “We will kill them all”. That being said, I do agree that there are some fans that are too nit picky.
@Godzilla_allday5 ай бұрын
Ain’t no way he said that Peter Cullen shouldn’t voice Optimus prime 💀 Peter Cullen legit helped the line so much as voicing Optimus being strong,wise,Nobel,loving and caring which inspired many many kids with Peter Cullen amazing voice as one quote Optimus said that meant a lot to those was “Hold onto your dreams,as the future is built in dreams@
@krimsonklaww611 Жыл бұрын
2:40 honestly, I've seen this kind of behavior from other transformers continuities. Like people immediately hated Legacy Bulkhead, Arcee, and Knockout just because they don't look like the Prime versions.
@MaxwellWurme Жыл бұрын
No seriously that’s a good point those toys aren’t to bad for what they are
@Tyrellbateman Жыл бұрын
I think it’s completely different things tbh. We’ve had rehashed G1 designs for a decade and a half at this point so someone upset that a new toy isn’t spot on with its G1 design is bonkers bc there’s been at least 3 other toys in the past that have probably all been centered around that character from G1 but with Prime and some other continuities, as soon as the shows over, we never get those designs again. So to offer the designs back but make them nearly unrecognizable from the shows they’re from makes it pointless to bring them back at all
@HereAlex Жыл бұрын
Tbf, having prime characters and then g1 ing them while the g1 toys look like from g1 and then having toys from other continuities actually look like from those continuities feels like a slap to the face and further empowerment of g1ers This is coming from a Transformers Animated fan btw. I have the legacy prowl and think he’s real fun but I wish/hope future Animated toys look like they came from Animated since I missed out on some as a kid. To have an Animated *anyone* in my collection would be awesome, but if they’ll just be made to appeal to g1 designs while other continuities get their accurate representations feels a bit crumy
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
I agree that all groups of TF fans can get too intense, but G1 fans are the only ones who will literally bully and harass other fans that have nothing to do with them. TF Prime fans were angry at the Legacy figures because they were supposed to be TF prime designs, so it makes sense that they were upset when it wasn't done properly. On the other hand, G1 fans will infiltrate videos and topics that have nothing to do with them just to hate on that topic.
@giovonniiclayton Жыл бұрын
@@papermelon facts my favorite transformers show is transformers prime so to finally get modern engineered figures to only appeal to g1 fans was a huge slap in the face
@versebuchanan51222 күн бұрын
As a G1 fan primarily, I fully agree that the relevance in modern pop culture that Bay-era stuff brought to the franchise has worked out for all of us. More eyes on the brand means more incentive for them to pop out merch from all eras, rather than letting designs or characters just drop off. (I mean they still DO that, just less than they would, if that makes sense?)
@krimsonklaww611 Жыл бұрын
2:00 we got a mainline Optimus that turns into a gun, but no Megatron lol.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
True, but let's not pretend like anyone would be satisfied if that was the type of gun they turned Megatron into lol.
@y.680311 ай бұрын
i’m 17 and was first introduced to transformers when transformers prime beast hunters was airing, a couple years later i must’ve been somewhere from 8-9 i remember watching toy videos and asked my mum to sign up to youtube just so i could comment something like “transformers prime is the best looking ever” or something stupid like that and the amount of older men attacking someone who clearly talks like a child is still so wild to think about, ever since i’ve just stayed away from the comments on transformers videos and it’s sad to see nothings changed but also pretty funny looking back at how one comment caused such a big reaction and still does to this day
@soundblasterreviews376 Жыл бұрын
The twins aren't racist, They are portrayed as stupid gangsters, so you are racist if you assume they are depicting blacks 😎
@GreggoryMiller Жыл бұрын
You are by far the best channel I've found in 2023
@nettythepenguin3971 Жыл бұрын
I’m fine with G1 and Bayverse. Bayverse just focuses on the people more than bots, G1 was the starting ground so while I like the idea of respecting it, I’m fine with updates
@dootimusmaximus0810 Жыл бұрын
The cycle of redos that are becoming increasingly common in Studio Series (Magnus this year, Springer next year, etc.) send a terrible message regarding variety in the line, especially when stuff like this is taking priority over TF4 and 5 main characters. It’s especially weird seeing how much better Legacy handles character selection and variety, by comparison.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
True, I’m starting to really get PO’d at how many G1 redoes we’re getting in Studio Series when there’s still dozens of movie characters who have yet to see the light of day 🤦♂️. Redo as many characters as you want AFTER covering the basis first.
@madcrx3070 Жыл бұрын
Bayverse sucks, not because it's not G1 but because it uses the Cybertronians like prop pieces rather than the main characters. Bumblebee has been treated like a dog/pet through every movie. They waste so much on the human characters when THEY AREN'T THE TOYS THEY'RE SELLING US!
@weewoo695 Жыл бұрын
I found myself agreeing with like 80% of these but hating every prime that isn't g1 is stupid as hell
@w.d.gaster114210 ай бұрын
Honestly, i like battletraps design more that any other in the rotb
@roxannemathews3178 Жыл бұрын
Hey man rescue bots is amazing enjoy the first rescue bots the rescue bots academy ehh not really
@TFanPage101 Жыл бұрын
The reviewer comment really hits home. I can't make an honest review if I pretend to hate/love something, I agree some reviewers might be overly hyped or critical, but not all. Hell, I was told I was overly hateful for one critique in an entire video.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Exactly. What's frustrating is that nobody actually cares whether you're "too harsh" or "too easy" on a figure: they just get mad when you disagree with their opinions on something. I promise they wouldn't be getting made if they agreed with your complaint. It's gotten to the point where it's literally toxic positivity. People yell at you no matter how constructively you give any criticism, and it's just because they disagree. For example, I reviewed SS Scourge and mentioned that his limbs were really loose and floppy on both my copies (and I clearly showed it on camera). I got DOZENS of comments saying "Shut and stop complaining! that was obviously just a QC issue on your copy, mine is fine!!!". Like bro chill, I wasn't reviewing your copy 😂
@tonyjackson4078 Жыл бұрын
I would like a new show that is a brand new cast like Unicron Trilogy or Beast Wars AND make it the main toyline.
@starpaladingoldbug228210 ай бұрын
Hot Take, Im sick and tired of almost the same characters appearing in every show, I wish we could see more minor and obscure characters get more love in anything that Isn't the comics, im so tired of people just using the same rotation of characters to use in a show without doing anything interesting with them or having a unique take like Prime Soundwave or Armada Starscream.
@onitgraff Жыл бұрын
Listening to some of the takes you agree with, I bet Godfather III was your favorite out of the GF trilogy.
@itskingjwffttv Жыл бұрын
I’m a huge Wheeljack fan and I love rotb wheeljack design I would of preferred a traditional look but I’m happy with what we got
@calebreardon87072 ай бұрын
My skin is crawling with some of these 😂
@thomasjohnson1885 Жыл бұрын
Hot Takes: Loving Bayverse and thinking it’s the best thing ever means you like it doesn’t mean it’s actually good on a movie storytelling level. I love those movies due to nostalgia G1 Season 3 cast had a better dynamic than the Season 1-2 cast because it’s fewer characters. Optimus Prime had lost his friendly personable presence to just becoming a stern action hero archetype missing everything Cullen wanted. Enough of the G1ification of designs, I just want the TFA designs in toy form Hasbro😢 Again, Bayverse fans complaining about Geewunners while also being as obnoxious about a movie franchise is just as bad. Learn to like something without making it seem like everyone else has to or just not critique it.
@SirMemesLong Жыл бұрын
in my most humblest of opinion. TFA designs are just not pleasing to look at. I really only like bee/wasp and the seekers. its the fucking chins man 😭🙏. The story is absolutely phenomenal and is a great what if story.
@setaside29 ай бұрын
Earthrise gave us both the best Optimus and best Rodimus Prime figures. Also, for some reason, for me, Rodimus has always been the better, more substantive character and leader than Optimus ever was.
@M4yh3m.11 ай бұрын
The last bit was actually funny😂
@Justiceforcliffjumper4 ай бұрын
I am a G1 fan, But I’m just saying, I don’t hate on other people for liking bayverse, and other shows/movies. In my opinion, I think that most transformers media is pretty good. Anyways love your vids Man! Thanks for the awesome Content
@MegaManDBZX Жыл бұрын
Energon was a pretty good show to me. The concepts in it were great, Megatron is at his most evil, and it was really the last time Rodimus was treated with any kind of respect.
@Ironhideproduction5 ай бұрын
Evry time i see ironhide die I'm crying
@squish6191Ай бұрын
the awkward scene in AOE was the whole movie.
@ForTheFREEMAN Жыл бұрын
Micheal bay pulled a Spielberg with these little toys
@francisbanana2047 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for being a late subscriber; it started with me watching your shorts to binge watch your videos. I love your content. I can't wait for more.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Never too late, welcome to the channel man!
@finalbossgamer54812 ай бұрын
I'm still recovering from the person in the intro who commented that Optimus should have stayed dead after the 86 movie. *Words can not describe the hate I feel.*
@optimascrime5235 Жыл бұрын
Give it a decade year's ROTB Optims prime will be a kid's genartion version of Bayverse prime
@lamelev4 ай бұрын
it is crazy, these are some hot takes lmao, I never thought that people would ever think that the movies are better than everything else. I guess its just cuz they look cool? all the animated series, comics, and games have so much rich lore and characterization to them. No hate, I'm just amazed cuz I've been watching some TF content creators for a while and I've never seen so many movie glazers lmao
@Burrito_Bandito0000 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the bumblebee movie, rotb wheeljack, aoe, and the skids and mudflap takes
@lunarfireyt8316 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect to be featured here it was nice, and I like somewhat knowing how others feel about figures like this
@JamDaLegend22 Жыл бұрын
Rescue bots > age of extinction
@bradensmith8682 Жыл бұрын
This checks out. There are no Age of Extinction figures in Legacy yet, but there is a Medix.
@Thegojira1998fan Жыл бұрын
No💀
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Literally everything > age of extinction
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
@@bradensmith8682 dawg what 😂 Legacy is for generations characters not movie characters
@GiantShoutmonTM4 ай бұрын
I completely agree with how Transformers works best in a animation format. especifically the "Super Robot" ones That being said i really just want a new Transformers anime like we had in the 2000s
@RialVestro Жыл бұрын
I wish people would stop saying the Bayformers movies brought Transformers back into relevance. That implies that Transformers lost it's steam and disappeared for some time which hasn't actually happened since the end of G1. Beast Wars is what brought Transformers back into relevance and there hasn't been a gap since then. I can prove this as a fact. Transformers G1 ran from 1984 to 1987. There were reruns that ran longer into the early 90's but the last real new episode was in 87. Beast Wars started in 1996 so that's our only real major gap. The show ran till 1999 and was immediately followed by Beast Machines which ran for only 2 years before being cancelled. That was immediately followed by RID2001 that ran for another 2 years. Then we have the Unicron trilogy of Armada, Energon, and Cybertron which ran from 2002-2003, 2004-2005, and 2005 to 2006 respectively. The first Bayverse movie came out in 2007 the following year. No gap what so ever. Not only that but even if we didn't have the live action movie Transformers Animated also premiered in 2007 and ran till 2010 so Transformers would have still been relevant even if the movie never existed. Beyond the shows, if you look at the toys, again the only real gap was between the end of G1 and the beginning of Beast Wars. And the gap in toy sales is even shorter than the gap in cartoons because toys were still on store shelves even when there wasn't a show to promote them. Headmasters, Target Masters, Power Masters, Pretenders, all made it to store shelves after the series had already been cancelled. There was still a gap before Beast Wars came out though and also that toy line hit shelves before there was any advertising for a cartoon... and the cartoon ended up being very different from what the toy line promised considering Optimus and Megatron were originally meant to be the same characters from G1. Anyway, again there has not been a gap since Beast Wars started... in fact because Hasbro has typically had 2 or more toy lines occupying toy shelves at the same time a lot of the different toy lines from Beast Wars till now have over lapped with each other. The 2007 movie line and the Animated toy line hit shelves at the exact same time. Bayformers did not save Transformers because it didn't need saving. Transformers would still be around, and I honestly think it would have been even better without the influence from the Bayverse. Also just to ad to this fact... Bayformers would never have happened in the first place if Transformers wasn't already so popular before they made it. No one would agree to green light that movie if they didn't think there was an audience for it so the movies did not save the franchise Beast Wars did over a decade earlier.
@bobbyfish4899 Жыл бұрын
Fucking preach
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
The movies may not have "saved" the brand from death, but it's only as relevant and well known as it is because of those movies. It revived everything with fresh designs and widespread audience appeal. It turned transformers from a niche fan group to a household title. It may not have saved the brand at the time, but I strongly believe the franchise would currently be near death if it weren't for the movies.
@Himblebee11 ай бұрын
I think what people tend to forget about Bayverse prime is that he has been fighting a war for an EXTREMELY. LONG. TIME. And if you ask me, any person would get sick and tired of constantly fighting a war. Oh, and for the people who accuse Bayverse prime for "committing war crimes" even if you're right, that's still NOTHING compared to all the insane war crimes the Deceptions have committed
@neptuneplaneptune33679 ай бұрын
Not sure if this is a hot take but I gonna say it. Transformers Animatet is, fore me personly, the best incernation of Transformers. It has the best Optimus, the best Starscreme, the best Prowl, and most importent, the second, maybe even best version of Megatron. I fully admit I am biased as heck here. Animatet came out just when I realy got into Transformers so I have a genuine deep attachment to it.
@ILikebread704 ай бұрын
The only thing that I will genuinely argue about is when people deny that Bumblebee and Rotb are in a rebooted timeline. They are. The timeline straight up makes no sense if they arent.
@S0n0fG0D Жыл бұрын
Hot take: *the g1 designs arent good, youre just blind to nostalgia.*
@StephenDurnan Жыл бұрын
*"Mean robot succ"* -Skids & Mudflap
@CarnoReviews4 ай бұрын
8:36 as someone who thinks wheeljack is one of my favourite autobots, I love Pablo
@buberoini9 ай бұрын
I have to agree with the bumblebee comment after watching your 2nd hot take video where you mentioned how low our bar is for good stuff. Initially I thought it was the best live action, but I was just seeing minor things I wanted in other movies and then thought those parts made the whole movie great
@NeilBlumengarten Жыл бұрын
My biggest hot take is the Bayverse fans who talk about the movies as the best of TF and everything else sucks is just the other side of the coin than "GeeWunners." If your opinion is, "My corner of the franchise is great, everything else sucks" you're the problem, PERIOD. I've seen many Bayverse fans act this way, oftentimes while simultaneously putting down GeeWunners for doing the exact same thing. Like what you like, but accept that others will like other things, and we'll be much better off as a fandom. Even better, open yourself up to other parts of the fandom, you'll probably be better off for it. I spent the beginning of July rewatching all of the Bayverse movies after having a lukewarm to negative reaction to them. I came away understanding why some love them, finding things I liked in all 5 of them, noticing their flaws, but overall, enjoying the Hell out of myself. I don't think they are the best TF media has to offer, and I certainly would place some of the cartoons above them in terms of quality, but to say they're all horrible isn't fair either.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
I do agree that everyone needs to chill out. Just because it's your favorite doesn't mean everything else is bad. However, the difference between G1 fans and bayverse fans is that G1 fans bully and harass bayverse fans even on videos/forums ABOUT bayverse stuff. They'll go to a movie topic video and comment stuff like "wow you guys still like this trash??" for no reason, when it doesn't even concern them. While Bayverse fans can mock G1, they don't ever "invade" G1 topics and videos just to trash on those people. Every group needs to take a breath, but G1 fans can often be straight up mean to people for no reason. They need to STOP.
@GarrettIngallJrАй бұрын
Bayverse prime in the first 3 was perfect.
@Iron_hide_ Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize this was uploaded really recently, now my opinion(s)... As a Geewunner you might expect me to be a "cult" member but I'm not. I LOVE G1 and even though I'm in my teens I still grew up on them. However I do know that is has some flaws, granted I overlook those flaws considering it was a saterday morning 80's cartoon made to sell toys. I do like the designs of some of the Bayverse transformers, I also think that beast wars had excellent animation. (probably because it reminds me of toy story, a movie I hold near and dear to my heart) I actually have started to like armada as much if not more than G1! Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion, but everyone's opinion is still just an opinion and not necessarily fact. Also I would love to get a gun megatron. He was going to stay a gun but the G1 toy was ''too close to an actual gun" and the toy had to be changed.
@NeilBlumengarten Жыл бұрын
The take on reviewers makes me laugh because many complaints I've seen do hate on them for being nitpicky, but just as many complain that reviewers just praise the toys and never mention any negatives. So either they are too nitpicky or too praiseworthy, it really seems people can't find a middle ground.
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
This is SO true haha. I've seen an equal amount of comments hating on reviewers for being too "critical" and then the other half complaining for not being "harsh" enough. My short reviews go through the exact same thing. People ultimately just get mad when you don't agree with them, they don't actually care about a "middle ground" lol.
@MintTea200511 ай бұрын
This was a really good video! I’m a little late but I really enjoy your way of handling hot takes
@RacoonCityPizza2 ай бұрын
Someone made a great point years ago that stuck with me. Bayverse is more accurate to G1 than anything in the Unicron Trilogy.
@rexosaurus3610Ай бұрын
The High Moon Studios designs are my favorite designs for the transformers
@killer92173Ай бұрын
I kind of got one: Revenge of the Fallen is the biggest waste of time. You can cut out all the parts where Optimus Prime is dead, and you wouldn't miss a thing!!
@ignite5329 Жыл бұрын
ngl, i agree with the bayverse tiktok one cause in those comment sections its very likely you see someone dismiss the whole cartoons and franchise as childish just because its a cartoon and act so high and mighty, its the same sort of fan like a geewuner, both horrible
@codyfox210 Жыл бұрын
Here's a Hot-take on Transformers! As disappointing and controversial as the reveal of Blitzing being the Decepticon who attacks Bumblebee and not Starscream was... I freaking loved Blitzwing's design! Even if it wasn't true to its g1 design you gotta admit it's one of the best seeker designs in live action along with Nitro Zeus and Thundercracker. Also, I believe that every villain that has come after the Micheal bay movies is honestly cooler.
@spacegoji1954 Жыл бұрын
0:10 this man needs to be on several watchlists
@aperson8209 Жыл бұрын
we NEED a optimus prime solo movie
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
BEFORE anything happens to Peter Cullen 🤞
@Noveler00 Жыл бұрын
RotB Wheeljack's design is fantastic, just call him something else
@bradensmith8682 Жыл бұрын
Would've made an amazing Beachcomber.
@selimtrev720 Жыл бұрын
Or Perceptor if they really insisted on keeping the goofy goggles on, and repaint him red, blue, and black.
@Thegojira1998fan Жыл бұрын
No💀
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
I can sympathize with this, they ultimately should've just named him someone nobody cares about.
@Gio_my_hero Жыл бұрын
Transformers 2007 was a movie.
@cyberreatronprime Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing my comment! Can't wait for more hot take videos since there are endless opinions to choose from. Absolutely loved the skit at the end too
@chaoticmoron-zl6nv Жыл бұрын
Tfp actually makes the bayverse so much better and yes i count it as canon