Oh boy these comments about to get spicy 😂🥵

Michael Bay is the reason why a new generation of fans get to hear Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime.

Ultra magnus is underrated and needs to be in a live action movie

Whoever said Peter Cullen shouldn’t voice Optimus prime should really see a therapist

I'm a fan of the bayverse its what got me into transformers, then I started watching G1, a couple years later then prime, now im watching shows like unicron trilogy and a couple of siege episodes. I agree with you that people shouldn't bully others if they like something different. There's more to life than Transformers.

There needs to be more styilized designs for toys and cartoons characters, like transformers prime. The g1 designs are good but they need to be less blocky and a bit more sleek.

It's so refreshing to hear someone say G1 isn't actually all that good

You want a Hot Take? I'LL GIVE YOU A HOT TAKE! CLIFFJUMPER IS BETTER THAN BUMBLEBEE AND DOESN'T DESERVE LIVING IN HIS SHADOW!

I did not expect the bumblebee movie hot takes, I honestly really like the film and is by far the best transformers movie without a doubt, (At least in my opinion). If you come into the movie expecting cool action scenes and none stop fighting then you will find it disappointing. The cybertron scene actually hurts the film more then it does help. Also, Yes Bay prime is fucking cool but it just rubs me the wrong way hearing that since it completely defies what his character was supposed to represent. It hurts even more hearing the interview with Cullen's brother saying to peter to not be a hollywood hero which is what exactly what bay prime is.

I like the way Diamondbolt handled his hot takes: at least once that I know of, he walked into his room as "the opinion police" when he said that Transformers Prime's version of Optimus Prime was a boring character.

I think it's telling that everytime you spoke up to defend the Bay films, it was to praise the mans very real skill in shot composition, framing and sound design, but never once mentioned a personality or story element that clicked more than the comics or various cartoons. I agree, Bay movies are probably the best the Transformers will even pull off "looking real". Accross all the films, the only thing that permenantly added to Transformers stories was... The Allspark Cube. No character, event, or personality presentation has ever filtered back to become a new normal or recurring element. It's... a really expensive and disjointed rearrangment of franchise elements with absolutely nothing to add onto the series as a whole. At least Animated gave us Bulkhead and the link between Ultra Magnus and hammers that was a thing for like 5 years there...

Rotb wheeljack had a good design. It really worked with the robots in disguise, rather than Michael Bay's sporty cars. I like the concept, the voice and personality just kind of broke it for me and for the record I don't hate all the Nice cars Michael Bay used, we did get some good designs out of them.

FOR ITS TIME Beast Wars had revolutionary cgi but we can all be honest that it really hasn’t aged well (note: I actually like the animation) Then again its fantastic storytelling and characters is what’s getting people coming back to it all these years later

I have a weird one: transformers having the same name but having otherwise little in common is a staple of the franchise and shouldn’t be seen as a surprise when it happens. Other than Optimus, Starscream and Megatron, all characters have had incarnations that are completely different from the original versions, and this comes from way before the Bay films.

That burp after when you saw that comment after someone saying TLK is the best transformers movie is pretty much my reaction when hearing that from another human being😂

Excellent video as per usual but my only point of contention is the beast wars design. They’re among some of my favorites in the franchise. I feel like season 1 designs were the best and they slowly got worse with every season though

Rumble was one of the first Transformer toys I ever got as a kid. He was red. The cartoon naming confused me and felt like an error. Turns out it _was_ an error. if you look up the original cartoon design sheets, it even says the red one is Rumble. HOWEVER that being said, if you grew up used to the cartoon naming scheme and Rumble is the blue one to you that's cool too! Rumble is still superior to Frenzy no matter the color scheme!

I'd love to see another one of these videos sometime! It was really fun hearing your opinions on, well, everyone else's opinions, even the non opinions/poorly articulated/weak ones. Your editing really makes everything pop, and turns even the most bland screenshots into something interesting! Def one of the best 'hot take review' videos I've seen in a long time :)

FYI more people should read the IDW comics, Last stand of the wreckers and the solo Kup. Unrelated the new WheelJack is hated my Latinos since it is racist ( what is racist to ablation is not the same to someone outside of the culture). Skids and Mudflap the second coming. It is not the design but the personality that really pisses people off.

Here's some of mine; bayverse fans also suffer from mob mentality. There's a difference between enjoying the franchise and enjoying the characters

Honestly my unpopular opinion is that rotb is trash. Rotb just feels like such a shallow, empty, and corperate movie that just has a bland story with bland characters I can't be bothered to carea about. Watching rotb made me appreciate how much of a master Bay was at creating that grand sense of scale and spectacle. I took that feeling of awe I got after watching a transformers movie for granted and only after seeing ROTB do I understand it takes a master to make you feel that way. Also I'm not on the more toxic side of the fandom so just going off my experiences but I think that people suck up to hasbro too much. It's hard to give a single criticism without someone saying "WeLl AcTuAlLy, BeCaUsE oF tHe BuDgEt LiMiTaTiOnS...". I understand there are usually reasons for compromises but that doesn't mean I can't point them out and acknowledge their existence. And I can get annoyed that a figure didn't turn out well or say that I don't like it. And lastly, I think ROTF (and AOE to a lesser extent) are very entertaining and fun movies. ROTF has that typical bay camp and AOE has some great moments and one of my favorite TF story ideas. Even if you don't agree about AOE, you ahve to admit that the forest fight and Shanghai scene are two of the best pieces of transformers media period.

I found your channel like yesterday after seeing ROTB which reinvigorated my transformers passion and I love your sense of humor. EZ sub

Tf 2 was pretty good and I don’t see the twins as rascist

I personally use a fan term to refer to gatekeeping g1 fans. Those individuals are geewunners while everyone else who is a fan of G1 and doesn't gatekeep are g1 fans.

G2 laser optimus is peak optimus design

I like how bumblebee and rise of the beasts still sticked to the source material and had its changes btw g1 designs are mid (if u are dumb mid isnt bad its supposed to be in the middle)

Pretty much valid but the bumblebee attack is something I will not stand for.

Genuinely love the content you make mate. Please keep em coming, it's great to see such professionally made videos about our hobby!

My Hot Takes: -Energon wasn't that bad -We need more unique take on Starscream in future cartoons/movies (similar to Armada) -Hasbro should collaborate with Studio Trigger to make a Transformers anime series

honestly beast wars doesnt look half bad, i feel as if it adds to the show and it stands out. imo none of the transformers look bad (in beast wars), the humans though? oh boy thats awful

He took the Peter Collin thing seriously I love this guy. Also what’s generation 1?

This video is great definitely would watch a part 2

Hey I loved campiness and designs of beast wars! But true it didn’t age well.

When it comes to reviewers you and Emgo are the only ones I’ve never seen go full on hateful when reviewing a figure.

In today's movie standards, ROTF will be celebrated...look at how bad CGI are these days, comparing the CGI in ROTF, it is still miles better than current movieS CGI standards

My heart actually dropped on the Peter Cullen one 😭

TFA prime is the best Optimus Ever. he is the perfect example of how to change a character and still be true to the original, in the fact that he's young and Dosent know everything yet, But He is compassionate, He doesn't even kill a single transformer, instead shows them mercy, and at the end His character gets the "Matrix" Ans becomes the True leader.

I prefer the Dorito Starscream over his G1 design Revenge of the Fallen is literally my all time favorite movie The Decepticons were the good guys in the Bay Trilogy Hugo Weaving was just as good of a Megatron as Frank Welker War For Cybertron Trilogy Elita-1 is hotter than ROTB Arcee

Bumblebee is mid Rotf isn’t that bad Bayverse prime is the best prime G1 isn’t good

The "G1 fan" stuff you discuss is literally the same thing as people who say their favorite band(s) "sold out" or their "first album was their best album" and everything they made after that sucks.

6:15 I don’t hate Bayverse Optimus. I respect peoples opinions on it, personally I’m not a big fan. But there was a point where Bayverse Optimus made even Peter Cullens uncomfortable and that was in DOTM when Optimus said “We will kill them all”. That being said, I do agree that there are some fans that are too nit picky.

Ain’t no way he said that Peter Cullen shouldn’t voice Optimus prime 💀 Peter Cullen legit helped the line so much as voicing Optimus being strong,wise,Nobel,loving and caring which inspired many many kids with Peter Cullen amazing voice as one quote Optimus said that meant a lot to those was “Hold onto your dreams,as the future is built in dreams@

2:40 honestly, I've seen this kind of behavior from other transformers continuities. Like people immediately hated Legacy Bulkhead, Arcee, and Knockout just because they don't look like the Prime versions.

As a G1 fan primarily, I fully agree that the relevance in modern pop culture that Bay-era stuff brought to the franchise has worked out for all of us. More eyes on the brand means more incentive for them to pop out merch from all eras, rather than letting designs or characters just drop off. (I mean they still DO that, just less than they would, if that makes sense?)

2:00 we got a mainline Optimus that turns into a gun, but no Megatron lol.

i’m 17 and was first introduced to transformers when transformers prime beast hunters was airing, a couple years later i must’ve been somewhere from 8-9 i remember watching toy videos and asked my mum to sign up to youtube just so i could comment something like “transformers prime is the best looking ever” or something stupid like that and the amount of older men attacking someone who clearly talks like a child is still so wild to think about, ever since i’ve just stayed away from the comments on transformers videos and it’s sad to see nothings changed but also pretty funny looking back at how one comment caused such a big reaction and still does to this day

The twins aren't racist, They are portrayed as stupid gangsters, so you are racist if you assume they are depicting blacks 😎

You are by far the best channel I've found in 2023

I’m fine with G1 and Bayverse. Bayverse just focuses on the people more than bots, G1 was the starting ground so while I like the idea of respecting it, I’m fine with updates

The cycle of redos that are becoming increasingly common in Studio Series (Magnus this year, Springer next year, etc.) send a terrible message regarding variety in the line, especially when stuff like this is taking priority over TF4 and 5 main characters. It’s especially weird seeing how much better Legacy handles character selection and variety, by comparison.

Bayverse sucks, not because it's not G1 but because it uses the Cybertronians like prop pieces rather than the main characters. Bumblebee has been treated like a dog/pet through every movie. They waste so much on the human characters when THEY AREN'T THE TOYS THEY'RE SELLING US!

I found myself agreeing with like 80% of these but hating every prime that isn't g1 is stupid as hell

Honestly, i like battletraps design more that any other in the rotb

Hey man rescue bots is amazing enjoy the first rescue bots the rescue bots academy ehh not really

The reviewer comment really hits home. I can't make an honest review if I pretend to hate/love something, I agree some reviewers might be overly hyped or critical, but not all. Hell, I was told I was overly hateful for one critique in an entire video.

I would like a new show that is a brand new cast like Unicron Trilogy or Beast Wars AND make it the main toyline.

Hot Take, Im sick and tired of almost the same characters appearing in every show, I wish we could see more minor and obscure characters get more love in anything that Isn't the comics, im so tired of people just using the same rotation of characters to use in a show without doing anything interesting with them or having a unique take like Prime Soundwave or Armada Starscream.

Listening to some of the takes you agree with, I bet Godfather III was your favorite out of the GF trilogy.

I’m a huge Wheeljack fan and I love rotb wheeljack design I would of preferred a traditional look but I’m happy with what we got

My skin is crawling with some of these 😂

Hot Takes: Loving Bayverse and thinking it’s the best thing ever means you like it doesn’t mean it’s actually good on a movie storytelling level. I love those movies due to nostalgia G1 Season 3 cast had a better dynamic than the Season 1-2 cast because it’s fewer characters. Optimus Prime had lost his friendly personable presence to just becoming a stern action hero archetype missing everything Cullen wanted. Enough of the G1ification of designs, I just want the TFA designs in toy form Hasbro😢 Again, Bayverse fans complaining about Geewunners while also being as obnoxious about a movie franchise is just as bad. Learn to like something without making it seem like everyone else has to or just not critique it.

Earthrise gave us both the best Optimus and best Rodimus Prime figures. Also, for some reason, for me, Rodimus has always been the better, more substantive character and leader than Optimus ever was.

The last bit was actually funny😂

I am a G1 fan, But I’m just saying, I don’t hate on other people for liking bayverse, and other shows/movies. In my opinion, I think that most transformers media is pretty good. Anyways love your vids Man! Thanks for the awesome Content

Energon was a pretty good show to me. The concepts in it were great, Megatron is at his most evil, and it was really the last time Rodimus was treated with any kind of respect.

Evry time i see ironhide die I'm crying

the awkward scene in AOE was the whole movie.

Micheal bay pulled a Spielberg with these little toys

Sorry for being a late subscriber; it started with me watching your shorts to binge watch your videos. I love your content. I can't wait for more.

I'm still recovering from the person in the intro who commented that Optimus should have stayed dead after the 86 movie. *Words can not describe the hate I feel.*

Give it a decade year's ROTB Optims prime will be a kid's genartion version of Bayverse prime

it is crazy, these are some hot takes lmao, I never thought that people would ever think that the movies are better than everything else. I guess its just cuz they look cool? all the animated series, comics, and games have so much rich lore and characterization to them. No hate, I'm just amazed cuz I've been watching some TF content creators for a while and I've never seen so many movie glazers lmao

I agree with the bumblebee movie, rotb wheeljack, aoe, and the skids and mudflap takes

I didn’t expect to be featured here it was nice, and I like somewhat knowing how others feel about figures like this

Rescue bots > age of extinction

I completely agree with how Transformers works best in a animation format. especifically the "Super Robot" ones That being said i really just want a new Transformers anime like we had in the 2000s

I wish people would stop saying the Bayformers movies brought Transformers back into relevance. That implies that Transformers lost it's steam and disappeared for some time which hasn't actually happened since the end of G1. Beast Wars is what brought Transformers back into relevance and there hasn't been a gap since then. I can prove this as a fact. Transformers G1 ran from 1984 to 1987. There were reruns that ran longer into the early 90's but the last real new episode was in 87. Beast Wars started in 1996 so that's our only real major gap. The show ran till 1999 and was immediately followed by Beast Machines which ran for only 2 years before being cancelled. That was immediately followed by RID2001 that ran for another 2 years. Then we have the Unicron trilogy of Armada, Energon, and Cybertron which ran from 2002-2003, 2004-2005, and 2005 to 2006 respectively. The first Bayverse movie came out in 2007 the following year. No gap what so ever. Not only that but even if we didn't have the live action movie Transformers Animated also premiered in 2007 and ran till 2010 so Transformers would have still been relevant even if the movie never existed. Beyond the shows, if you look at the toys, again the only real gap was between the end of G1 and the beginning of Beast Wars. And the gap in toy sales is even shorter than the gap in cartoons because toys were still on store shelves even when there wasn't a show to promote them. Headmasters, Target Masters, Power Masters, Pretenders, all made it to store shelves after the series had already been cancelled. There was still a gap before Beast Wars came out though and also that toy line hit shelves before there was any advertising for a cartoon... and the cartoon ended up being very different from what the toy line promised considering Optimus and Megatron were originally meant to be the same characters from G1. Anyway, again there has not been a gap since Beast Wars started... in fact because Hasbro has typically had 2 or more toy lines occupying toy shelves at the same time a lot of the different toy lines from Beast Wars till now have over lapped with each other. The 2007 movie line and the Animated toy line hit shelves at the exact same time. Bayformers did not save Transformers because it didn't need saving. Transformers would still be around, and I honestly think it would have been even better without the influence from the Bayverse. Also just to ad to this fact... Bayformers would never have happened in the first place if Transformers wasn't already so popular before they made it. No one would agree to green light that movie if they didn't think there was an audience for it so the movies did not save the franchise Beast Wars did over a decade earlier.

I think what people tend to forget about Bayverse prime is that he has been fighting a war for an EXTREMELY. LONG. TIME. And if you ask me, any person would get sick and tired of constantly fighting a war. Oh, and for the people who accuse Bayverse prime for "committing war crimes" even if you're right, that's still NOTHING compared to all the insane war crimes the Deceptions have committed

Not sure if this is a hot take but I gonna say it. Transformers Animatet is, fore me personly, the best incernation of Transformers. It has the best Optimus, the best Starscreme, the best Prowl, and most importent, the second, maybe even best version of Megatron. I fully admit I am biased as heck here. Animatet came out just when I realy got into Transformers so I have a genuine deep attachment to it.

The only thing that I will genuinely argue about is when people deny that Bumblebee and Rotb are in a rebooted timeline. They are. The timeline straight up makes no sense if they arent.

Hot take: *the g1 designs arent good, youre just blind to nostalgia.*

*"Mean robot succ"* -Skids & Mudflap

8:36 as someone who thinks wheeljack is one of my favourite autobots, I love Pablo

I have to agree with the bumblebee comment after watching your 2nd hot take video where you mentioned how low our bar is for good stuff. Initially I thought it was the best live action, but I was just seeing minor things I wanted in other movies and then thought those parts made the whole movie great

My biggest hot take is the Bayverse fans who talk about the movies as the best of TF and everything else sucks is just the other side of the coin than "GeeWunners." If your opinion is, "My corner of the franchise is great, everything else sucks" you're the problem, PERIOD. I've seen many Bayverse fans act this way, oftentimes while simultaneously putting down GeeWunners for doing the exact same thing. Like what you like, but accept that others will like other things, and we'll be much better off as a fandom. Even better, open yourself up to other parts of the fandom, you'll probably be better off for it. I spent the beginning of July rewatching all of the Bayverse movies after having a lukewarm to negative reaction to them. I came away understanding why some love them, finding things I liked in all 5 of them, noticing their flaws, but overall, enjoying the Hell out of myself. I don't think they are the best TF media has to offer, and I certainly would place some of the cartoons above them in terms of quality, but to say they're all horrible isn't fair either.

Bayverse prime in the first 3 was perfect.

I didn't realize this was uploaded really recently, now my opinion(s)... As a Geewunner you might expect me to be a "cult" member but I'm not. I LOVE G1 and even though I'm in my teens I still grew up on them. However I do know that is has some flaws, granted I overlook those flaws considering it was a saterday morning 80's cartoon made to sell toys. I do like the designs of some of the Bayverse transformers, I also think that beast wars had excellent animation. (probably because it reminds me of toy story, a movie I hold near and dear to my heart) I actually have started to like armada as much if not more than G1! Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion, but everyone's opinion is still just an opinion and not necessarily fact. Also I would love to get a gun megatron. He was going to stay a gun but the G1 toy was ''too close to an actual gun" and the toy had to be changed.

The take on reviewers makes me laugh because many complaints I've seen do hate on them for being nitpicky, but just as many complain that reviewers just praise the toys and never mention any negatives. So either they are too nitpicky or too praiseworthy, it really seems people can't find a middle ground.

This was a really good video! I’m a little late but I really enjoy your way of handling hot takes

Someone made a great point years ago that stuck with me. Bayverse is more accurate to G1 than anything in the Unicron Trilogy.

The High Moon Studios designs are my favorite designs for the transformers

I kind of got one: Revenge of the Fallen is the biggest waste of time. You can cut out all the parts where Optimus Prime is dead, and you wouldn't miss a thing!!

ngl, i agree with the bayverse tiktok one cause in those comment sections its very likely you see someone dismiss the whole cartoons and franchise as childish just because its a cartoon and act so high and mighty, its the same sort of fan like a geewuner, both horrible

Here's a Hot-take on Transformers! As disappointing and controversial as the reveal of Blitzing being the Decepticon who attacks Bumblebee and not Starscream was... I freaking loved Blitzwing's design! Even if it wasn't true to its g1 design you gotta admit it's one of the best seeker designs in live action along with Nitro Zeus and Thundercracker. Also, I believe that every villain that has come after the Micheal bay movies is honestly cooler.

0:10 this man needs to be on several watchlists

we NEED a optimus prime solo movie

RotB Wheeljack's design is fantastic, just call him something else

Transformers 2007 was a movie.

Thanks for reviewing my comment! Can't wait for more hot take videos since there are endless opinions to choose from. Absolutely loved the skit at the end too

Tfp actually makes the bayverse so much better and yes i count it as canon