Haha you fool I already know my two favourite characters aren’t all that great but that will never stop me from destroying my enemies with the power of cuteness and sales combined.

Goldmary is actually the best hero in the game hands down, no discussion. The outfit is the only evidence required.

As a clanne enjoyer I'm numb to hearing this ngl 💀

I think playstyle also plays a major role. Some people like to turtle while others like to poke. Some would rather Cloe be tankier on Griffin while others want her to have that bit of extra strength of Wyvern. Some people prefer to PP and others are all about the EP. For me, I loved using Luis and Jade because I like playing a slower game of routing and brickwalling the enemy. I never got into Panette even when I “played her right” because all that strength meant nothing when she never hit the enemy at the critical moment. I also found myself preferring Anna as a Warrior so she had more bulk to EP for more gold with her skill.

I kind of half agree. With the way the game is designed, it’s next to impossible to really judge a unit without any investment.

Totally agree. The only characteristics unique to units that I feel make a unit great are magic and speed, high enough of those and the unit one rounds every regular enemy in the game. Outside of these, everything it's decent, might have a very specific niche good match up, but nothing more. These units basically are there to pick a kill with their engage attack or gang up to beat a single rouge unit. They range from useful to mediocre.

I kinda agree. I wish personal skills and special classes would be better.

Adam unit shaming me. This is the quality content I subscribed for 👍

I told you Alfred wasn't that bad after all !!!

Please keep making this kind of content I'm not the biggest stream enjoyer too much time

I think the real argument when it comes to Engage is how much investment does a unit require to get good. At the top of here, we have Chloe (not !Wyvern Chloe though, Chloe's Strength sucks you get a better unit by reclassing Lapis, Kagetsu, or Merrin to Wyvern, which is also much less investment then dumping all this EXP into Chloe, who may be good now but does not have mid to late game potential in this class line.), who is good while you get them to the necessary offensive benchmarks they need in the mid-game to late-game to one round with the Levin Sword. On the opposite side, we have Anna who requires you to use Micaiah because their bases are so bad she can get one rounded by enemies on her joining chapter and at the end of all that, you could of invested into someone else and there's also Citrinne who is incredibly similar to Anna, just being slower, which is a pretty easy flaw to fix in Engage (unless your Louis). So yeah, that's my take on it.

This is some real perspective! Emblem rings are where strength is found in this game

The best example of this I can think of is Alfred. During my first playthrough he was horrible, but one my second playthrough I gave him Fensalir with the Dawn emblem engraving and he is doing great.

you’re telling me Clanne is terrible? Incomprehensible

That all true, but for example bonded shield falls flat if your units don't have enough speed. Obviously you can speedfix almost everyone, but why do that if you can just use fast units instead with op skills. Also i don't understand what makes Celine and Chloe special. Chloe has nothing going for her without a Ring. She just flys and is fast and super disappointing even with the most exp earned in my first run in lategame, cause she can't kill on playerphase with that abyssmal strength (without dlc or well). And Celine can't decide whether she wants to deal magic or physical dmg, making her super trash as soon as advanced classes show up, again without a Ring her unique class passive is also a super joke. It's funny cause you did the exact same thing to both of them, even tho they just suck as much if not more than any other characters without emblems. The only characters who are actually op are Kagetsu, Pandreo and Merrin, cause u can use them without rings and they are just as useful as the Ring holders. Panette is only useful on player phase and gets obliterated by anything without Ike, Hector, Roy or a dedicated skill build. Also Sandstorm is a unique thing and it's perfect for the Offtank Timerra is, cause most other tanks don't kill on enemy phase. Timerra can do that every third attack and she can get 2 or 4 chances with bravelance on player phase and 2 chances on Enemy phase against A LOT of enemies with her speed alone. Stat boosters and skills aren't even necessary, they just give you a higher frequency. You only need Ike to make her op or Leif to make her viable if you want more speed rather than defenses. Both rings that you ranked to be trash tier. So very low investment for a great unit 5 levels after her recruit chapter. If i had to choose between Chloe and Timerra, i would take Timerra every time, cause her only replacement is goldmary and well she doesn't have the unique skill to kill or Louis and he gets destroyed by every mage in the game and well i gave Chloe a better treatment than Timerra and she was just trash lategame, while Timerra never fell off. Like for real try using Chloe with a non-forged steel weapon and without an Emblem ring and you get disappointed FAST. Also all the rambling about fixing everybody is just not true. Alfred is the perfect example. I made an all Royals run and fed him everything i could, and he still was just a worse Louis on join chapter. Actually all of the 4 early game Royals suck. Alcryst deals no dmg without Luna against nonflyers (which here is a problem, cause he is a player phase character, not enemy phase like Timerra), Diamant has fine bases, but drops off for some reason, i didn't figure out yet probably the lack of good rings for him after chapter 11. He's probably the best of the 4 tho. All in all Units should get ranked on needed investment. And imo a forged steel weapon this early on for Chloe is VERY HIGH investment for the mediocre outcome you get lategame.

I love your description of Timerra aha! Although in my first 2 maddening playthroughs she hard carried as soon as she got sandstorm and I kept her paired with Ike. Gave her all my def & res stat boosters and she could tank and sometimes delete whole hordes of enemies (when sandstorm triggered which was pretty frequent) while the rest of my team dealt with the survivors. Sidenote Clanne has been an mvp in all my playthroughs. My main issue with FE Engage is the availability of master/second seals in the early game & the reclassing feature should have worked like in 3 houses where once a class is unlocked you can always go back to it without expending a seal

First!! Also I busted my new run wide open with less units deployed than ever! Thanks for the tips!

Totally agree. Almost any unit can be great in Engage. The game, even without the DLC, gives you so many tools. I don’t get the intense debates over tier lists.

The characters are an empty canvas while the emblems have all the fun stuff. Gonna make a sage Diamant now and give him as much magic as humanly possible through boosters and skills.

"You favorite unit is trash" Average normie units: "No, you don't understand, you just need to feed her every kill and all of your state booster and she might not get doubled by the end game" Average trainee enjoyer: "Yeah, we know."

i do not agree on the whole if u put stats booster on any unit u can make them good i think that like in all fire emblem game some characters can snowball if they get certain stat boosters early because this way they can meet some important benchmarks and some time it might be better to give a speedwing to a character that really needs it rather than giving it to somebody that will cap speed in lvl anyway.

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Partially agree. Characters in this game are probably at their worst in terms of uniqueness in recent games, possibly in the whole series. Three Houses had mostly unrestricted reclassing, but characters still had unique spells, combat arts, and abilities, and these would hugely effect how differently they played. Bernie plays nothing like Ignatz, and neither plays like Ashe (assuming you even play with Ashe :P). Besides stats, Engage has personal abilities (and even the better ones rarely effect how you use them), and their Weapon Boon. While Weapon Boons can be important (Letting Heros use Tomahawks or Spears, letting Warriors use Silver Bows, having A Staves on Sage, being the big examples, alongside Wyverns only being able to use Brave Weapons with a Sword/Lance/Axe Boon), they don't help THAT much. However, the stats ARE important. Boucheron being a Myrmidon disguised as a Fighter is pretty darn cool. Hortensia being speedy but with low magic and only B Tomes contrasts her strongly with Ivy being slow but with good attack power. This also determines what Emblems they get to round themselves out. Ivy wants someone like Lyn to fix her speed, while Hortensia is happy being a support unit until you get Celica back, with her bonus Magic and Seraphim Tome (which is effective against almost all end-game enemies). Hortensias stats mean that she makes better use of a less contested emblem, and this would be true even without her really nice personal skills. A units stats determines what it 'costs' to fix them. Chloe benefits HUGELY from the well and early Sword Power 3, if you can get it, as she's fast enough to double most enemies, and those skills hugely improve her damage output at a decent cost-effectiveness rate. However, mid-game Emblems aren't big on boosting damage, so if she doesn't get either of those skills early (or some Energy Drops) she'll be lacking in damage output. Amber, on the other hand, already has lots of strength (and the build to wield heavy weapons without being slowed down). You can get him Lance Power, of course, but you could also just grab Speed+3 for a measly 500 SP and some Bond Fragments. Or Speedtaker which can give up to 10 Speed for 2000 SP, instead of the mere +4 damage he'd get from Lance Power. Chloe isn't quite as good in the mid-game without good investment early on, until Eirika shows up to reward her speed again. But characters who need Speed get Lyn, Lucina and Byleth, alongside Speed+3, cheaply inherited from Lyn. This is an advantage Amber has over her. Chloe needs Sword/Lance Power 2 or 3, but Amber just wants the more widely available mid-game resources. And that affects how you use them considerably. So characters do stand out, it's just a lot more subtle than they did in the past. And you're not wrong that this game lets you fix just about anyone, if you really want to.

Make Panette Wolf Knight everyone you won't regret it

I can tell this will be a very popular video....truth hurts.

The Lapis experience is like me with Etie on my first playthrough. Gave her Lynn. She DESTROYED everyone. Never used her since lol

My love and care made Etie and Lapis great

So I can make Boucheron into an S tier character even if he's reclassed to a Royal Knight, got it

Nothing is bad if you know how to funnel resource into max stats, with proper exp funnel you can solo entire game with alear only does that make everyone else bad? The only problem with this game is characters uniqueness came from unique class not themselves which is sad.

some characters are better than others, for example every character is better than Amber because they dont make me want to turn off the game everytime i hear his voice. same with Hortensia and seeing a annoying clown girl ( that has a great skill/unique promotion still i rather use some one less annoying) or idiot that keeps howling and barking.

Joke's on you, the units you mentioned are the exceptions, are All of my favorite characters sans Zelkov.

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i know amber and fogado are bad, but i love them and will force them to work, i could probably put their kit on other units and make them work better but here me out, amber is amber

I did a Etie run and she had 31 strength by the time Pennette joined. As a warrior I think.

So what hear is your favorite is only good due to you utilizing mechanics which the game balance around. If take mechanics which game balance around away they be bad. Which makes sense.

Jade and Goldmary Supremacy I Will Not Tolerate Disrespect 💯💯💯

I've noticed Etie is one of the fan favourite characters yet she is my least favourite to use

Well good thing I like Ivy Kagetsu Hort Chloe They’re always on my team 😂…

I completely disagree. Character growth rates make a huge difference in what they will be able to accomplish in a particular role. I've done 2 different maddening runs that included a Great Knight equipped with Ike. Goldmary was nearly invincible in that role and I was always able to depend on her to hold a front. Jade was often a liability to my team.

Chloe makes chapter 11 so easy.

Luna makes alycrest pretty good

TL;DR, if you like them, then you probably put a ring on them.

How dare you say that about Céline!

It's more accurate to say all the units in this game are not good by their own merits. If I were to make a tier list, it would be based on how much investment would be needed to "come online" and then be capable of keeping up if not dominating the game. This is Fire Emblem, and the universal truth across all games (with very few exceptions) is intentionally focusing EXP on a very small group of units makes your playthrough vastly easier than if you spread the EXP throughout your 10-12 units. The topic of dicussion then becomes how much resources does a unit need to become a hard carry to your playthrough. It's only doubled down on this game because Engage's Jaegen is extremely bad and can only carry the game for about three chapters before the stat gap no longer exists and he starts getting destroyed. So you have an extremely limited amount of maps before he falls off. This is very much unlike Marcus, Seth, Titania, and Frederick who can be used through the entire run and are in fact some of the best units in their respective games. Maddening Mode Engage gives you units that can do their job but not in a stellar fashion. Literally every single unit in this game wants a forge, an emblem ring, etc. With exception to, perhaps, Seadall, who is the resident dancer and dancers are always good. This is not a bad thing, and I don't think it should be framed as a bad thing either. This is just how Fire Emblem is and always has been.

The problem with FE:Engage is that the characters are held back by class stats cap. Also you can't carry over class skills you've learned is kinda weak. Jade is my favourite character but I need to put her on Warrior cuz General is such a liability as a class. They really don't want General Amelia again 😜

One of biggest charm of FE is to take characters and try to make they work - that's problem solving and building your army. So unless you are doing Min-Max speed run or LTC, "character list" really don't mean much. It's just people like to talk about. Tho there's a big exception in FEE - Vander. He's a puzzle you won't have a solution, to make him stay relevant.

Honestly in the end, it comes down to RNG and the Growths to really judge (and can you SERIOUSLY judge "Predictions" since that's what it comes down to! I mostly judge characters on Base Stat/How well they do in their introduction chapter and future potential by their natural Growth Rates, more specifically in the scenario the Random Number Goddess decided to say FUCK YOU) But people almost ignore "other factors" and get fooled abit if Base stats and RNG is good to them (Something I noticed in Fates when Ryoma was getting PRAISED to hell, seeing how he REALLY felt those hits when he DID take a hit which is RNG even with low hit chance! So evade tanking isn't something that shouldn't be relied on! They see him melt enemies early on and dodge that they go abit to far in overrating him....then you become like me those years ago who sees HIM get melted compared to Xander who I see TANKING like a Great Knight and only really having to worry about Tome/Magic Weapon users. And Frankly I leaned alot more to Xander then Ryoma) I love Lapis sure, but I acknowledge you have to work alot to fix some of her issues! Such as if you stick to Swordmaster with her! You have to deal with her Crt to make up for lower damage (made worse by the fact if you activate her Personal for Avoid and Hit, your going to suffer a decrease in Crt) Between her and Kagetsu, I can comfortably give him a forged Wo Dao and he'd do fine. She does great with a Killer Sword because her GODLY high Speed Growth means she'll likely get more Speed increases that the decrease by her low BLD to it's Weight will be ignorable.....or maybe not if RNG hates you! Also doesn't help that I'm not heavily keen on the Starsphere as I've been weary of Growth Rate increase skills since Fates (where they realized making it an equipable skill made it broken so they "wielded it" to the "Villager" character as their "personal skill" starting with Cyril and now currently Jean) and I tend to only give skills that "make sense" (Meaning as a Traditionalist, I refuse to see Canter/Canto on Non-mounted units.....IT AIN'T RIGHT! As you can guess I'm a "Role Player" type of gamer where I won't budge on giving characters abilities/skills/weapons that don't make sense for them narratively wise! Weakens me, sure. But It's how I play and I have fun with it! Game Breaking is for my "I don't care" run next playthrough for fun) Basically "investment" has many factors to them. One being "how much they do well even if RNG screwed" and how much less you have to invest into them! And as said, cause of Growth rates, you have no insurance that they'll come out well if RNG hates you! Then you have Stat Up Items! I usually save them till I have the character in question then give them the relevent boosters EARLY, People have to face it, if your destined for a RNG screw! At least lengthen the time before it becomes an issue anyway! The free Boot goes to Alear no questions asked (Alear also NEVER leaves the Dragon Child/Divine Dragon class, same as Veyle in her Fell Child! Nel and Nil, well it depends, but one of them is sticking to their Fell Child Class so I have "three Dragon Style Units" as Bismix would say it! The other if I use them, I coin flip per playthrough which twin I will use! Will get Second Sealed into a relevant class that they're good at! Like Berserker for Nil or Halberdier/Spear Mage Knight/Spear Griffin Knight for Nel) Going back to Lapis, I give her a Energy Drop to patch Strength for abit And frankly by the same token JAGENS can still be relevant with the right "investment" as well! Vander's ain't killing anything on his own player phase wise! But I found making him a Great Knight and giving him smash weapons does WONDERS on Enemy phase as he's pretty much "wounding" the enemy enough for others to "Devour that sweet XP" and by the time you get to Level 15 or higher enemies when he CAN start getting XP normally! He's already at Level 2 or 3. Helps with the right Ring, you can boost his relevance (Since Veyle is a mainstay, he is the placeholder for her position for half the game, then replaced till she joins officially) What I like on this video, is frankly it invalidates all the idiots who love to start flame wars with "My character is the best, any who disagree are idiots who's opinions don't matter" Especially as I had a run in 3H where Dimitri no joke had MAGIC grow more then Strength, and I never put him in Magic Classes to increase that growth. Had to resort to Magic Spears to get damage. But it was this one time as future Blue Lion runs, I only saw it go up a Level up like THREE Times by the time I reached Azure Moon end game. Found it silly about the fights (especially Lapis vs Kagetsu, if Pairing others was a thing! I'd pair them both! I also like using Kagetsu from time to time! Seeing what other classes he does great in so I don't have to change Lapis out of Swordmaster or whatever! Frankly I always assure other then Staves and Arts, I have one character in a S weapon Rank Class for all the other weapons! So someone is able to use them! Afterwards, any remainders can be whatever class I'm lacking, Seadell and Hortensia are AUTOMATICALLY in my line ups like Lapis because Hortensia is the BEST Staff user in her Exclusive, no point removing her from that class and Seadell is the only Dancer! So he is ALWAYS in his class) And realistically it does make sense! Anyone play Live A Live, the Ancient China Arc had your Sifu MC collect three students! And you train them, but the student who becomes the Arc's "main character" is the one you choose to give "the final training" which is even if you balanced training between the three, the chosen of the three will get the "last training" before the school is attacking and the other two who are unchosen are killed. Frankly speaking, those chosen and have focused attention on tend to flourish better then those who weren't. It's RARE someone is able to "on their own and without help" become experts or reach beyond their potential just by themselves!

The Bad News: Most units in Engage are terrible. The Good News: Emblem Rings can make your favorite unit great with the exception of Vander who also needs the DLC, all of the stat boosters, every support possible, Forges, Engravings, SP Books, and anything else I forgot that can me him "great", at least for one playthrough. For me, the units that are a tier above everyone else are Seadall and Hortensia, and below them are Alear, Chloe, Ivy, Kagetsu, Pandreo, Panette, Merrin, and the last recruit as they either have ridiculous combat in most classes with essentially no investment for their join time or they have access to unique classes that make your army as a whole stronger without replacing any of your other trained units given how deployment slots are handled in the late game.

the problem is people see cute anime girl and think she is the bestest ever. louis is amazing early game.

Honestly? Alfred has some insane bases... . . . . . . Insanely bad bases, that is

Finally you admit that lapis and yunaka are mid as fuck

Totally agree! For most people and I think everyone thinks that Alfred is bad. But I like him, he’s the small Dimitri. And he’s my only cavalry until the end🤣 And since I’m a girl I really have a standard when it comes to girl units. If guys like Chloe, Yunaka, and Goldmary, I really don’t understand why. Probably because of some certain aesthetics LOL. But especially Chloe, she’s really weak to me. Maybe I just play them wrong. But again since I don’t like them I don’t want to invest anything on them. But I like Pannete and Merrin those are my fave girls. And for aesthetics reasons Celine, Ivy and Hortensia have the looks that girls like too. Even though they let me down sometimes not one of them can nuke as hard as I wanted them too. I’ll try mystic Anna soon I guess, or Pandero maybe. I’ll see if it’s worth the hype.

People just need to start doing runs without rings and then we can learn who is actually best.

So.... In essence the only good units are good for base stats, the personal skills like lunar sol or jeans have little to do with with whether or not the unit is good. Also the growths are irrelevant just the base makes them good. Let's ignore that Anna has the best base game magic growth out of every other character or that jean excels in every single class.... Got it

Anna, Jade, Alfred and Goldmary are the real Broken characters of the game