Your Logic 7 Audio is MEDIOCRE! Let's fix it. [Range Rover L322 Audio Upgrade Part 1]

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Here's part 1 of my Logic 7 Audio Upgrade on the L322 Range Rover.
The logic 7 system is good, but it's not great. Let's fix that.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro & Engine Follow-up
4:20 This video
5:20 Cars I've owned with good audio
5:58 I spent some KZfaq bucks!
6:15 Channel Memberships
6:55 Taking a baseline measurement
9:45 What are the problems with Logic 7?
12:45 Audison APK165 Kit
13:37 How many speakers in Logic 7 system?
14:54 AUTODOC PRIZE DRAW
15:51 Removing the old door speakers
19:20 Fitting the woofer surrounds
22:54 Wiring the tweeters
26:48 Sound deadening doors
28:02 Fitting new speakers
28:27 Quick test!
28:49 Reassembling driver's door card
29:34 Doing the passenger side
30:34 Audio demo with new speakers
31:50 Comparing old with new data
32:20 What's next?
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@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

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@tylerfriesen8466 Ай бұрын

Anxiously awaiting part 2...

@TheAudirob 2 ай бұрын

This has been a great watch, I have a 2012 Westminster and do think the system is poop at low volumes. If you turn it up it’s great. All speakers work etc, just doesn’t enjoy low volume. 😂

2 ай бұрын

Amazing, few days ago finished speakers in my TD5 defender, you know, 2 speakers is always something. In my L322 i have bass farting logic 7 speaker. I hope that this video will show me how to solve the problem

@user-uc5vr8le7y 2 ай бұрын

On my l322 i had to change the lower front woofers as the glue breaks on them. Once i did that i upgraded the subwoofer as the standard one cant keep up with the rest of the system. I also have that mic and use a dsp witha few amps in my p38. The mic works best placed between the headrest and the top of the seat as it needs to be located where your ears are to be accurate.

@neilwhite8131 2 ай бұрын

Darn it Sam, last week you made me buy a set of fan spaners and a couple of super wicked bottle brushes, before I watch this how much am I spending this week?

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

Glad I could help 😆

@johnomi 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic job!

@edpikestone6800 2 ай бұрын

I have a Disco 4 with a Maridian sound system that is experiencing the same issue and I think I will have do a similar process on it. Great content keep it coming!

@elliotthomas6768 2 ай бұрын

Nice upgrade. Very much forward to seeing what you do about the sub; the weak sub is something I am keen to address on mine.

@abdurrashid 2 ай бұрын

I believe you got a low reading on the highs is because many tweeters are directional. The mic was sitting quite low, if it was around your head hight it would’ve picked up the higher frequency. Tweeters and mids are best placed on the A pillar or on the dash if you really want sound quality.

@devil2005iscool 21 күн бұрын

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@axlebeastly 2 ай бұрын

Nice one Sam. I've copied almost every mod you've done on your Rangie. Although mine is the 5.0L SC 2011. I recently did the Idcore mod and I love having Apple CarPlay in my car. It's totally transformed it. It even changed my mind from upgrading to an L405. I agree with your opinion about the speakers being mediocre. New Audison speakers are on order! Sound matting is a good idea too. Looking forward to see what you do to the sub. Mine is very sub par.

@davidwalker72 2 ай бұрын

Does your supercharged not have the HD sound package?

@axlebeastly 2 ай бұрын

It has the Harmon Cardon Logic 7 sound system@@davidwalker72

@oleksandr9353 2 ай бұрын

that little wireless mic is certainly a good one (for my not very trained ear that is). and the upgraded car audio does sound much crisper. well done, thanks for an awesome video

@jimmyquinn9639 2 ай бұрын

Another good video Sam 👍👍👍👏👏👏⭐️⭐️⭐️

@bonginkosimthethwa7523 2 ай бұрын

Started watching your content last week and hey man you're doing a good job. You mentioned DPF and EGR was deleted in your vehicle did you do it yourself or it was done for you?

@a100267 2 ай бұрын

Interesting analysis. I always thought the mid-range was weak on the sound system in both the 3.6 and 4.4 TDV8. Hope your upgrade fixes that.

@peterwarner8541 2 ай бұрын

Good work Sam. I’m still toying with replacing mine in the p38 after putting the Atoto s8 in. It will need a bit more work as I’d have to bypass the factory amps and put new crossovers in. Perhaps I’ll wait for you to do yours and see how you get on!

@willlucy5810 2 ай бұрын

Interesting watch. Although a much older system it's amazing how much of the design is the same as the P38. I've just finished going through the ICE system on my P38, 1x tweeter, 1x mid and 1x bass in each front door, 1x mid and 1x bass in each rear door and 1x twin speaker sub in the boot. Aside from having issues with the amp most of my sound problems were related to having seized bass speakers in the doors. The cones wouldn't move freely making the whole system sound thin. The foam speaker rings on both my sub speakers had also completely disintegrated too so i sourced replacement foam rings and rebuilt them. But the way the speakers are mounted in the L322, even down to the base speaker mounts, are almost identical.

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

Very cool! I may do a similar upgrade on my own P38 if I end up keeping it.

@Montrey2 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video. Very informative. I need to replace the speaker in my door that is right next to the door handle. Is that one replaceable? Do you have the part number?

@antking8847 2 ай бұрын

I think the original oil recommended by LR was due to the cars being used in all climates - if you live in a really cold climate then maybe avoid changing from recommended - in Ireland and the UK - you are far less likely to have an issue with the change

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

Possibly... although the winter rating (5W) is the same for both oils, it's just the hot oil rating that's higher viscosity, which wouldn't really be affected by the weather. I think the main reason 5W30 was chosen was for economy and environmental reasons.

@Rugbyman269 2 ай бұрын

Not sure if this applies to your Range Rover but on Christian and Vera’ LR time channel he talks about oil and the different types used , some of which are different for older engines

@neilwhite8131 2 ай бұрын

Nice vid Sam, on a std Logic 7 without the fancy HD dooor cards, would you still only make the same changes as in this vid? or would you have changed the centre door card tweeter for a midrange? Cheers

@ganolemoine Ай бұрын

Hi Sam. Thank you so much for your very detailed and informative videos. Quick question - we have a 2009 RR Sport, and the drivers side treble speaker is loose from the door / window frame. As I pull it away a bit, I can see that the trim "button" / press-in anchor is broken. I don't know how to remove the treble speaker assembly to replace that one clip. Thinking you probably have some insight considering your speaker replacement experience. Do I have to remove the whole door card to remove the treble speaker housing assembly? Or is there simply a second button / press-in anchor lower in the assembly - such that I can pry / pull the assembly and get it away from the door pillar - to then change the broken "button" / press-in anchor? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

@martinfinlayson4135 2 ай бұрын

Agree with all the coments about mic placement as higher frequencies are very directional and easily absorbed by all the soft furnishings in the L322. Having said that though, it only matters if you are taking absolute measurements. If you are simply doing A/B comparisons, providing you keep the mic in the same location the comparison will be valid. Presumably you are running the system with the Logic 7 surround setting switched off? In that mode I'm pretty sure the system doesn't use the centre speaker in the dash or the speakers in the rear pillars. It also messes with the stereo imagery in a way that doesn't always improve the experience, if you take my meaning 😉 The amp frequency response should be pretty flat so speakers and their installation will make the biggest difference. Typically the subwoofer is a compromised affair in any estate type car but particularly poor in the L322. More a case of here's the shape it has to fit into, now how can we get an amp and speaker in there!? I'm very interested to see how it can be improved without filling the boot with an old wardrobe fitted with a couple of 18's! 😄

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

Cheers for the input! The tweeter height is actually at about the same height I had the microphone positioned, although they do fire upwards slightly. I also took some measurements from ear height and the difference in measured response was negligible, so I decided to use the easier position to measure from. It was done with Logic 7 turned off as that’s how I tend to listen to music (vast majority of music is recorded in stereo, and I don’t find the surround adds anything really.)

@robaskew2278 2 ай бұрын

Thanks

@Birmingham_racing Ай бұрын

Funny enough apk 165 see what speakers I'm looking at next for my golf. I've already got the apbx 8 inch passive sub

@davidwalker72 2 ай бұрын

As an L322 owner that has the "HD" logic 7, You should do a side by side comparison of each! It would help me know whether to upgrade what I have. Also i'm really looking forward to seeing your subwoofer upgrade as that's the weakest part of the system IMO. Thanks for making my L322 ownership so much more enjoyable!

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

I’d love to do that! The 7 HD has quite a few improvements over the standard logic 7 but the subwoofer is the same, so it probably seems even weaker in the HD system. Thanks for watching 😎

@DaleSteel Ай бұрын

Best systems I've had in cars... e92 M3 individual sound 850 watt. Bmw m4 Harmon Kardon. RS3 B&O. C63s BURMEISTER.

@alexanderstefanov6474 2 ай бұрын

Sam, did you do a DPF/ EGR delete? How much power is the engine making now after remapping?

@StreetMotionUK 2 ай бұрын

Hey Sam, where did you get your roof rack? I'd love one like you have for my L322

@pcat1378 Ай бұрын

You should do a video of how much you have spent so far on the beast Sam. Parts and accessories etc

@SamsMotors Ай бұрын

Cheers for the idea! I’ve already done 2 “totting up” videos but I’m long overdue for another one. Sam

@pcat1378 Ай бұрын

@@SamsMotorsIts a bit selfish of me but I am seriously considering buying a 2012 Westminster and I am confident enough to do many of the jobs you do but its nice to know where you buy parts from etc and the cost.

@Birmingham_racing Ай бұрын

I love mark levinson car audio in a Lexus

@markdean4762 2 ай бұрын

Did you do anything with that poor AUX port DAC that is provided with the IDCORE system? The sound quality is poor when compared with the L322 factory installed sound system, even after playing with equaliser and phone volume. Not sure I'm up to replacing the speakers without a fix for this. Be good to know because that is the thing I dislike most about the IDCORE system. You were spot on in your review of the IDCORE system in pointing this out.

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

No, I haven't. As a workaround, I've been using my Invery iPod socket bluetooth adapter for music, which can still be done while the phone is connected wirelessly to the Carplay module. It works and gives good audio quality, but it shouldn't be a concern on a system that costs as much as it does.

@HiruS22 2 ай бұрын

Sam, the Archers was on on a Sunday morning not afternoon 😁

@chubbstep 24 күн бұрын

I just noticed you didn't use the crossover for the woofer. Is there any reasoning for that? I'm mounting my speakers with crossovers.

@CedoNulli88 2 ай бұрын

Same audison APK165 kit should then also fit the rear doors, since the mids are in fact also tweeters?

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

I’ve not confirmed it but theoretically yes.

@stevewoodmeuk8933 2 ай бұрын

How do you have the audio balance set up on the IDCORE system ?? I had to max mine out to get any where near a listenable sound. Did IDCORE ever get around to doing a software update to cover that issue ?

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

I’m not using the IDCORE for audio any more - I’m using the Invery iPod/bluetooth adapter as it’s far higher quality due to the horrible DAC in the IDCORE unit. I don’t think they can solve it with a software update unfortunately.

@richardhunt1384 2 ай бұрын

3:50 I wonder if a 5/40 C1 grade would be a good compromise, thicker oil but still complicate for DPF emissions equipment. 🤷

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

It would be great, but alas it’s pretty impossible to find in that combination.

@piranhascot Ай бұрын

buddy, im still waiting on your delete and chip video!!!!

@wezzla 2 ай бұрын

Amps are usually very linear. Those big leather seats may act as traps for a specific frequencies that with a less than ideal mic placement can cause a dips in the graph. I would not worry though, the human brain compensates very good for such frequency imperfections.

@firstnamed1501 2 ай бұрын

This couldn’t be more apt. Not watched yet but I have been looking at Focal 6.5” replacements. Can’t wait to watch on….

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

The Focal kits are extremely nice - a little out of my budget for this project, but I would love to give them a listen!

@firstnamed1501 2 ай бұрын

@@SamsMotors I’m going to get a price on these Audison as well and if a good compromise, I might well be following in your footsteps. Great video, can’t wait for the sub woofer video. My kids love watching DVDs in the headrests of my Autobiography and the bass is tremendous at times (Boss Baby) just like being in a cinema but fear I’ve blown the fronts with too much Luke Combs 🤠 😂

@firstnamed1501 2 ай бұрын

Sam, where did you get your roof rack from please? Also is it standard fit into the roof threads or custom? Thanks

@richcodesweb 2 ай бұрын

Hi Sam, when you did your baseline tests did you reset the built in EQ to a completely flat EQ curve?

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

Hi, I did, yes! Good point which I forgot to show in the video. -Sam

@richcodesweb 2 ай бұрын

To be honest, as long as you didn’t change the EQ between the 2 sets of tests the results are technically equally as valid, but as you said, age takes its toll too

@paulheyes653 2 ай бұрын

How is the sound deadening in the l322 ? Maybe some sound deadening would reduce the road noise even further ?

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

It’s pretty good but more always helps for audio!

@TheKnightstar13 2 ай бұрын

Am ex Car audio tec, you need a parametric equalizer, but good luck integrating that into the range, so 😊😂

@DaleSteel Ай бұрын

What audio system would a 2011 autobiography have?

@SamsMotors Ай бұрын

Should have Logic 7 HD (1200W) I believe

@DaleSteel Ай бұрын

@@SamsMotors oh nice

@DaleSteel Ай бұрын

@SamsMotors is that a good system? I have a 2008 m3 with individual audio (850w) it's good but I find the newer 2014 system better quality but only 600 watt

@jackdeltr9701 2 ай бұрын

Audio ? Why upgrade what is wrong with my AM radio and its speaker , sounds like a big waist of money

@SamsMotors 2 ай бұрын

😂

@jackdeltr9701 2 ай бұрын

Well it’s worked fine for me in the last 40 years and has been there since 1951 yes I had to replace the speaker in 1993 a rock into windscreen and rain but a new 6 inch speaker was easy to put in with no screen . I just can not see any reason to fix what works just because it’s new