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I think dehydration is the sneakiest and most dangerous risk when riding. Fatigue is a big one, but dehydration is super common and people often forget to prep for it.

Shoe laces catching the pegs is a legitimate safety issue. I had it happen ONCE just as I was about to put a foot down while waiting to take a left from a main road to a side street. In an effort to not fall over into the oncoming lane of cars, I gave up on turning and accelerated straight ahead instead right at the exact moment a car that had been behind me went to pass around me on my right. Luckily we didn’t end up knocking into each other, but boy was it nerve racking riding the yellow line with a now pissed off driver to my right and head on traffic to my left while trying to sort out my laces before reaching the upcoming red light. Not a great situation. Tuck those laces guys!

Ripping a Wheelie on an FJR launch is a boss move lol. Everyone wants to see that

Your dad has the right idea, The Dartford Tunnel/Bridge was the same, but bikes were cheaper. However a campaign by bikers who always stopped took gloves off gave the wrong amount, waited for change and receipt then gloves back on, well that help up traffic so much that, it changed to bikes being waved through, and eventually motorcycles became free

I disagree somewhat on what defines a UJM. The key element you guys overlooked, is riding position. UJM's never were a sportbike position, like a SV650. UJM's all had a flat seat, neutral foot positions, flat handlebars and devoid of fairings. While scramblers are more like UJM's of the past, most UJM's were on the bigger end of the spectrum. 500+ CC's were the norm for them. Myself, I had a Suzuki GT750, and it was a fun ride, but was stupid heavy.

I definitely have an embarrassing ride story to share. On a ride to work 2 years ago I stood up to adjust my pants while traveling about 70 mph and not sure if the wind caught me or just me being the cluts I am. I went off the back of my bike. Best part about the story is when I called the police after I got out of the hospital to find out where my bike was. The cop that answered happened to be working the day of my accident and told me he received a call from an old lady saying she was on the highway and a motorcycle passed her with nobody riding it. I will say though that motorcycle pegs can be really sharp because my rear passenger pegs sliced my leg almost severing my Achilles and when I got to the hospital the paramedic told the guy at the trauma ward “he has a big gash on the back of his leg idk if you’re going to have to take it off or what?” Which snapped me out of my concussion symptoms I was having to be like, nope you can take me back to where you found me. You’re not taking my leg. I think he was being humorous but I didn’t find it funny. I was fine though. Just needed surgery to clean everything out and stitch my leg meat back together. So now I have a nice scar (that looks like a shark bite) as a reminder, when standing to keep my hands on the bars, and watch out for them street sharks because they’re not as jawesome as I remember as a kid

This episode was just perfect. You guys are impressive in your deep thinking and articulate presentation. Thank you!

As a 5'6" rider, seat height on bikes is ALWAYS a concern. That said, I currently own a factory lowered '23 BMW S1000XR with the low seat option. It's manageable, but only because I wear DAYTONA M-STAR boots that have a 1.5" insole lift. They're quite spendy, but absolutely top quality and super comfortable. It felt a bit weird walking around in them initially, but now that I'm used to it they're absolutely fine.

1:10:00 that was me after college. Had to sell my Hurricane 1000 and was without a bike for a bit. Got married and had a daughter and really needed to ride! Bought a used Honda CB-1 and it was a blast. Loved wrapping it up in the first few gears, only to look down and see I was doing 35mph!😂 Eventually moved on to a couple Buells, an XR650, and now my 500 EXC and my Duke 890r. Really doesn’t matter to me, as long as I have something to ride!

glad you liked my little clip of the toll booth, sorry for the rampant mockery felllas!

I believe that people like watching others overcome difficult challenges because it's inspiring and because if you see how someone else succeeds you can learn to imitate that success.

Welcome to 40. You're previously unassigned ailment will now be assigned to you.. Again, welcome to 50. You missed one? Lemme help you out, here's _another_ previously unassigned ailment for you.

I just checked for the 407 toll highway in Ontario, Greater Toronto Area. No charge for motorcycles. YES!

Hey now... the Burgman 650 is a nice bike, but unfortunately no longer sold in the U.S.. We do need a Honda 650 Burgman, it'd be nice.

Honda CB 750 Nighthawk was a UJM that ran until 2003. I had an '01 and I never should have sold it.

Glad to hear you celebrate my '88 Honda Hawk GT.

Over here (UK) we usually don't pay tolls,Mersey crossing,Mersey tunnels etc,also on the Mersey crossing you don't have toll booths,it's all done digitally,your registration is recorded with ANPR,there's no stopping,constant flow no matter what vehicle your using.. We used the term UJM to describe mainly aircooled IL4's,Honda CB550/750/900,Kawasaki Z650/Z1000 & GPZ 550/750/1100,Suzuki GS550/750/850/1000,Yamaha XS1100 then XJ550/650..The first,more sport orientated Japanese bikes I remember were Honda CB1100R & Suzuki's Katana's.

90's standards: Suzuki Bandit 600/1200, GS500, Honda Hornet (in EU, but super popular there), Honda CB1000, Nighthawk 750 (CB750). All of those were very well known except for the CB1000.

Around DC there are EZ Pass lanes that are free for motorcycles. I commute 80 miles a day on them and if I was in the car I would pay close to $100 per day

1:40:38 back in the 80s, my brother had a VFR Interceptor 750. Super cool sport bike. About the time I was graduating high school, my dad purchased for me a Yamaha Fazer 700. If you don’t know, that was an early naked sport bike, meaning that not only did it not have fairings in the early days of full fairing sport bikes, but it also had a Genesis 5 valve 4 cylinder engine. Beat the snot out of my brother’s interceptor multiple times, and had her up to 140mph! It was only made for 2 years, but you can still find them on marketplace. It’s competition at the time was the Honda Nighthawk, but that couldn’t keep up. Not the status of the Ducati, but at the time I had never heard of Ducati!

Thanks for answering my question about ctxp. Stay safe!

@zach Please do a directors commentary, or similar, for the CTXP episodes. 56:00 Or something like behind the scenes, just a general long discussion with Ari, or the production crew, or whoever was involved most. I just want to hear you guys talk for a few hours about everything that went on. The trips are so cool, there must be tons of stuff to discuss, from the planning to return. It was really cool seeing the Ari bit of refurbishing the CT90. Can't wait for the next one, thanks Revzilla

My last job, I sold Triumphs. I was used to liter-class sportbikes. My retiremnet bike is a Honda CB300R. I call this my "speed limit bike," and frineds with "real" (?) motorcycles can ride with me, as long they ride at the speed limit. Why a 300? I wanted a "Goofy 250" because they are so much fun to throw into corners. At 286ccs, I didn't over-shoot by much.

Spurgeon perfectly described what it's like to have Type 2 fun during his time stuck in a sand wash. Type 2 fun is miserable while it’s happening, but fun in retrospect. It usually begins with the best intentions, and then things get carried away. Thanks for being awesome guys!

This ujm evolution is a phenomena in bioloical evolution also. The observation is cladistic change (many new species branching out from some innovative and successful original) vs phyletic evolution (a long gradual change in a single creature). Think the many recently evolved south american hummingbird species vs the very ancient, kind of unchanging horseshoe crab. Very successful lineages often go through these bouts of "adaptive radiation." While other lineages can be more static in form and function and sometimes become extinct. Japanese bikes are the hummingbirds of today, american bikes are the horseshoe crabs of today, and the many british bike species from the early to mid 20th century are now in the motorcycle fossil record.

Another awesome podcast episode, just awesome. Guys keep up with great work and this year you should definitely get here to Europe and ride our great roads in the Alps ❤❤❤.

The Tailwind garage door controller works great for me & my bikes. It starts opening my door when I get to the bottom of our driveway, and by the time I'm at the house, it's open and I ride straight in. The app allows me to open/close either garage door remotely, from anywhere. Not too expensive, easy to install, and great functionality!

Modern UJM? Z900RS. Simple As

A timely topic! Consider dedicating an episode to exploring fatigue, its identification, prevention strategies, and effective

UJMs didn’t go away. They morphed into my DL650. 😊

Y'all gotta get Dork in the Road for a motorcycle in video games podcast. That man has been using Excitebike as a theme for ages. :D

To me the modern non-retro UJMs are the 17” wheel ADV looking bikes. Super comfortable ergonomics. The new standard motorcycles. Versys 650 and 1000 in particular.

the GS500 ran from the late 80's until mid 2000's - definitely a Suzuki Standard bike, possibly a UJM - and the old Ninja 500 alike.

i loved that game road rash lol I always had a Bluetooth system but i got a new bike with a big fairing, I wanted to change to a half face maybe. but don't know how that would work. omg id love a toll-free ride. NJ sucks, I get messages that my toll tag didn't read

Our EZ Pass tags here are thin stickers, so I just pulled the "wind screen" (if you can call it that) off and stuck it to the backside.

It seems to me that the UJM was displaced primarily by faired sport bikes. The VFR Hondas come to mind. After that the classic basic motorcycle seemed to fall out of favor. Lots of other niches seemed to develop after that.

50:00 I always ride with cliff bars and a huge thing of water, and sometimes a Red Bull. Always. You never know when you might end up on the side of the road on a hot day for hours without shelter.

Free garage parking -- hats off to the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville FL for free motorcycle parking. Almost makes you look forward to getting a check up. When I took my car I had to pay the attendant 5 bucks. Rode in on my bike and the attendant waves me past and points to the bike parking right by the first floor entrance!

I agree with no tolls for motorcycles. The reason being a little different I used to pull a racecar trailer with a duallly truck. They charge 3 axels for the truck and then another 2 axels for the trailer becouse of a axle to them is every 2 tires. But I live in Hellinois every thing is taxed almost as bad as California but they can split lanes.

I’m in the middle on communicators. I like to use them between my wife and I when on long trips, but I much preferred the wired intercom we had originally. The wired intercom finally died and it wasn’t cost effective to repair so we bought a set of Cardo Packtalk Bolds. I find the BT units to be a pain. Yes, you can hop off the bike and walk around without dealing with a cord, but I find they occasionally lose the connection to my phone, occasionally lose pairing to my phone and or GPS, they didn’t have enough horsepower to drive the JBL speakers loud enough to hear them at speed, require charging every night and occasionally run down before a long riding day is over. We finally got earbuds speakers to replace the Cardo/JBL helmet speakers and that helped tremendously with sound clarity, but now we have to deal with cords again every time we remove our helmets and we have to insert the earbuds. This is far more of a hassle than was plugging in the cord to our original BMW headset units. I sure wish it was still possible to buy corded headsets.

A video of installing a full Magura brake set would be nice.

Com systems are for music, and rider/passenger communications. Or perhaps to communicate between just a couple of riders. Once you get too complicated with them they become a PITA.

The current UJMs are the dual-sports.

We don’t pay tolls in Virginia, so this is already implemented somewhere.

Great Wall is huge! We had a lot of their Toyota Hilux (OG model) trucks in Iraq. My security detail said the company literally bought the tooling from Toyota to make exact replicas of the 2.0L NA Diesel, 4-door Hilux from the 80's also known as the most prolific military vehicle in the world. IT is such and exact copy almost all the parts are interchangeable. Only sold in SE Asia, Africa and some of South America...all places where refinement was not a benefit, but durability and reliability are.

Bring on the Burg episode!

I have a K1200LT and a KLR650. I have loads of fun on both even though they are about at opposite ends of the spectrum from a perspective of high end parts, performance, etc. I bought my LT new in 2007 and my KLR new in 2017. I bought the KLR partially to have something that wasn’t as costly to maintain as the BMW and also to have something to ride on back roads and ride when the BMW is down for maintenance. For example, when I do a valve check on the BMW, if I have to do a clearance adjustment I am generally down for 10-14 days waiting on new buckets from BMW. In the past, I had nothing to ride for that time, but now I have hop on the KLR and soldier on.

Honda Goldwing has the option of adding homelink to open your garage door.

Dehydration on a dry 98 degree day is a real issue. The other thing I’d say is when I got my Bluetooth headset I loved the music and answering the phone but hated the real time chatting. I realized the last thing I want is someone else’s thoughts and chatter in my helmet when I’m riding.

These are some of my favorite episodes of HS/LS! Isn't this normally listener comments not questions? Sad that it means only one more episode in the season. However, a new season, I'm sure, will be coming soon! Sorry to say Spurge but that's another shirt for the bonfire! More cylinders = more gooder! Holy crap, I just realized the front end of the Africa Twin looks like the continent of Africa! I can't believe I never saw that before! Careful with that Spurge, after all there's room for all of us under the bus. And here I thought I was the only one still telling people to go pound sand lol! Most modern day garage door openers can be activated though an app on your phone so no need to have one installed on the bike. I'm assuming Mike owns the BMW so buying a different used BMW probably isn't the answer he is looking for here Zack. I think Mike should try to find something along the same lines but from a Japanese manufacturer so the up keep costs aren't as high. Perhaps something like that FJR 1300 from earlier in the episode. Lesser doesn't always mean worse Zack, look at a Royal Enfield vs a Triumph. The R.E. may not have the TFT or ride modes but is it worse for not having those things? I was young, better looking, and had hair akin to Spurges so, YUP lets bring back the 90's! Guys the answer is "as much wood as a woodchuck could if a woodchuck could chuck wood!" This is a motorcycle podcast not a scooter podcast. Sorry Zack but a scooter is not a motorcycle its a scooter. Never happen, American companies are far too greedy to let motorcycles not pay tolls. Daxa free is a political distinction not a financial one lol! Is Spurge drinking a Bartles and Jaymes out of a plastic cup? Knowing Chases' sense of humor I'm guessing its a first gen Ducati Monster. Well, right idea wrong bike lol. Ya got me Chase, ya got me! Bummer the last episode of the season is up next. Eagerly awaiting season 9 and the EAST COAST LIVE SHOW (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) lets make it happen guys. The Wellmont in Montclair N.J. is a perfect venue for it, just saying! Great show as always old sports see in 2!

“Farther away” was correct.

LOVE the show! Keep at it!👍🏼

IMO best current representation of UJM is Kawasaki Z900RS

RE 1:27:25 possible counterpoint to skip getting hung up on the "motorcycle for non-motorcyclist" would it be better to approach it from "practical vs passion" because the bike that first came to mind when you read the question was the Honda NC's with DCTs because it seems like the design of that bike is nothing but practical. Yes that NC rider is still a "motorcyclist" but they are not a "Harley dude" or someone that commutes daily on there MV Agusta. It really all hinges on that point that Zack made @ 1:29:22 about Bikes that are compelling on paper but no one seems to "want".

I always tuck in my shoe laces, but have had the pants legs catch on the foot pegs before. You really need tight cuffs. Riding pants normally have Velcro enclosures.

Many businesses often claim their employees are like 'family,' but it's usually just talk. At Revzilla, though, the folks really do feel like a family.

After a good seal of research, I bit the bullet on a GWM double cab truck and its sweet ... 30 000 miles in and its a real contender, for a change.

I've caught both pant legs and shoe laces on footpegs - even those thick, rubber pegs on early '80s UJM bikes. Thus I don't ride any more without zipped boots, with my trouser legs tucked inside - which incidentally also keeps my trousers cleaner, now they don't have road grit and such flicking up at them off the front wheel. Keeps the wife happier. 👍

I’ve got the same experience as Zack on a Yamaha event while making a wheelie on a T7 Extreme during a test event on a street where nobody except us was… Maybe it’s a Yamaha thing… 🤷‍♂️😅

Driving sleepy is worse than driving drunk. Not saying, drink and drive. Just saying, if you are tired, stop. I went from a Trhuxton R to a KTM 390 Duke cause life went to hell and you adapt or die. The trick to me was to get something different than just cheaper. The KTM was cheaper back then but is extremely fun. And really easy to work with. So, think about what else than being fast is fun for you to do.

I would say that bikes don’t have garage door openers because most houses in Europe nor Japan have garages. That’s my guess at least

I’ll go riding with you Jesse!

I would argue most modern naked bikes fill the UJM role. Especially the upper middle class, i.e. street triple, MT09, Z900, Duke, Monster/Supersport as well as the new Twins (Hornet, GS8X, Tuono/RS) are everyday bikes that do handle track day riding (and with the twin cup have their own racing series) as well as touring and can be modded into a scrambler - just like the original UJMs.

For the garage i just attach a wifi controller (bluetooth will also work) and connect to my phone. I use voice control or thru the app to open it.

Regarding the garage door opener. Um why not make it voice command, the MyQ is a smart opener. I put my id card in my left sleeve to be able to ppen the gate when i get to work.

I compared prices for quad lock from revzilla and Amazon about same price and I’d rather support you guys.

I agree about the garage door openers on bikes. Gimme.

I agree that the Z900RS is today's UJM. Interesting thought about ebike riders could be tomorrow's motorcyclists...

Great video mate !!!!!!

Tolls are waived for motorcycles on some of the express lanes here in the Denver area. That and lane-filtering that becomes legal in August (I definitely have NOT been doing this for a year now, of course) is going to make commuting so much faster in CO.

When I had a street bike I wired an opener to the horn button. All I had to do is roll up to the door and hit the horn to enter my garage.

2024 KTM Adventure 790 no need to lower for lower bike options for Dan.

The s2000 looks like it’ll be a nightmare to work on

Spergie...(spurgie?)... Comms... great, fantastic. from a safety point. Gravel on the road in a corner... leader ripping it around a corner and animals on the road. I live in BC, on Vancouver Island . Lots of tight roads great for riding (as we all know).. communications are good. The group I ride with .. ex-military.. there is usually a constant barage or abuse flying through the headset. Sometimes it gets to be a bit much. Until.. something pops up and I need to alert the rest of the group, (because I lead the group.. ) If you don't want to hear the drivel spewing from your riding buddies.... ride alone, or turn your volume down.

A Motorcycles in video games episode would be awesome. Cyberpunk 2077 would provide great material.

That’s easy. what caused the death of the UJM? The sportbike in the mid 80’s. Even for me to be able to tuck behind a cowl and get out of the wind was a godsend. When the sportbikes hit the market the Japanese manufacturers went to war each year trying to out do each other as UJM’s were forgotten. Over time people realized that sportbikes were uncomfortable on the street and manufacturers started taking fairings and clips on off and the naked bike was born… well really the UJM was resurrected 🤓

@1:08:32 RE: cut costs while still feeling opulent. I completely second the notion of getting a scooter. If you want to feel classy pick up a modern Vespa. Super reliable, very vast aftermarket, looks good and even with the brand premium they are cheap to run. And if you really need to save even more pennies then you can skip the Italian brand tax and get a honda (those cubs are sweet)

Was the Suzuki Bandit a UJM?

I love this podcast

Regarding the group ride question… I mostly prefer riding alone. Group rides never really excited me as much as the solitary aspect of riding.

Why when we talk about Seat Height, do you forget suspension sag? The seat height when putting your leg over the bike is not the same as when sitting on the biike and putting your foot to the groumd.

Regarding tolls, I recently rode from Milwaukee to Tennessee through several tolls around Chicago. I put mat IPass in my jacket chest pocket and it worked as expected. I was on a Harley street glide so I was sitting upright. It may not have worked on a sport bike. Most sport bike riders relocate their license plate so the toll cameras can't capture their plate and blow through tolls without paying. I think it's ridiculous for motorcycles to pay tolls. A big fat couple on an overloaded touring motorcycle may weigh a combined 1500 pounds. They are doing close to zero wear to the roads and pay the same tolls as a 6000 pound truck. You can make the same argument regarding fuel taxes. Most fuel tax revenue is used to maintain roads.

Are you coming to Tucson!? I'd love to show you around and ride with you.

To me it's actually somewhat ridiculous that someone has a problem going down to a lesser-spec bike. I enjoy lower displacement bikes a lot and I prefer having less tech features on my bikes. These days, even the 300-400cc class has plenty of power for all my daily needs.

I wonder if this giant Chinese Gold Wing is following their design language where passengers in the backseat of automobiles need the most legroom and space possible. The either seem to go super efficient and compact or gigantic and opulent with anything transportation they make

re: modern UJMs- I wonder if there's an argument that GY6 scooters are the modern UJM. Or Ebikes. They fit some of the characteristics, cheap, readily available, under many various brands, questionable/varying quality, upright seating position, not too fast/"fun"/sporty, not really in "demand". I can see if someone says no, they're too low quality, or not fast enough/practical enough, not reliable enough, etc. My thought was Rebel 500, maybe 300. They are the forgotten vanilla bikes for me. Or any cruiser like that. Maybe even the 300-500 starter bike category - it doesn't matter too much what you buy, and the "fun" you have on them will be more related to the ride, rather than the machine (not that some aren't fun or good machines, but they get replaced/outgrown for a reason). I was thinking 401/701, but it isn't really generic; just has the seat. Maybe made in India bikes? Like RE, or the lowly BMWs. There's probably hundreds of UJM models in Asis/SEA - maybe the argument is the UJM moved to poorer areas, and Americans chose more frills, sophistication, and unique properties. Maybe "dirtbikes" fit some criteria. Or the DR650/DRZ400/tw200, or any of the 250/300 dirtbikes. Whatever you want to call dirtbike/adv/agricultural. Maybe you could argue the sportbike evolution/competition shadowed the UJM in some ways. I can see why people would say no though. I think there was a podcast with a Triumph dealer (decades ago, in the early day, or heyday, I forget), discussing the infancy of that. I don't know enough about motorcycles to make any real argument. I'm trying to think of what would have "dorky" bmx-style handlebars and a comfortable seating position. It's fun to think of what categorized a UJM. For me it'd be, underpowered/not-overpowered, flat seat, neutral/upright/comfortable position, not afraid to be "dorky" or practical, "sporty" but like Stock Honda Civic on all season tires to a 16 year old sporty, not special/good enough to spend $1000 on, outside of sentimentality.

Do we finally get Keanu Reeves for the final episode of this season or what? 😄

Comment 2# i think the interceptor 650 is also very comparable to the honda 350 he mentioned

Damn,commenters and suggestions beware. The vinegar is being spit in this one.

Dumb stuff you’ve done, what a great question. good of you to share your worst. I have several, dropping a VFR 1200F and having to have a youth and a passing motorist (female) help me pick it up was pretty bad. The worst was having someone help bump start a bike that I had turned the ignition switch off - I never confessed this to Barry the Butcher - he ha a set of very sharp knives ! BTW I’m in the UK but always buy MOTUL products to support your show which h is excellent

2025 Triumph 660 Slippery Sam Excellent Motorcycle!

I second dehydration & fatigue. Also, sunburns! Riding the length of Vietnam and any exposed skin will absolutely get owned.

Maybe Ilan is a big talker and his friends just want to enjoy their ride and not chat the whole time. Maybe. I've never used a com device, but I don't usually ride with anyone. If I had a small group I can see how it would be nice to be able to communicate.

The current UJM are the 800 twin cylinder bikes

Yeah I have a question. Number one: how dare you!

I understand why Honda went from a boxer four to a boxer six. The six can be statically and dynamically balanced whereas the four cannot. What's the benefit going to eight? Has anyone complained that the Goldwing lacks smoothness? An eight cylinder motorcycle is interesting in the way a video showing bowling balls dropped onto trampolines is interesting. I can't avert my eyes but only because I'm drawn to silly things.

Indian has integrated garage door openers on some of their bikes.

Spurge ya want my 1090 for 6k?

Nice