Your Planer Sled is Backwards | Ditch the Hot Glue

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Keaton Beyer Woodworking

Keaton Beyer Woodworking

Күн бұрын

We all don't have a jointer, and you don't need one, as long as you have a planer. Here is a how to guide teaching you how to build a planer sled and the proper way to use it. Hint, there is zero hot glue needed.
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00:00 Intro
00:17 Making the sled
02:08 Shimming a board
03:56 Using the sled
05:57 Final tips

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@stvnrncmn5066
@stvnrncmn5066 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for your video! Super clear and informative.
@christopherjohnson7501
@christopherjohnson7501 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Doing floating stair steps and I am new at all of this and you made it perfectly clear how to do it! My frustration is gone! Cheers!
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 2 ай бұрын
That's great! Awesome to hear and good luck on your stairs!
@BigBrotherIsTooBig
@BigBrotherIsTooBig 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for 😀
@vladorlovsky6623
@vladorlovsky6623 2 ай бұрын
That’s why pretty clever. Thank you for the tip.
@chipmeister111
@chipmeister111 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@buildingmodern
@buildingmodern Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! We’re going to have to build one of these jigs soon! Great work!
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was using it last night and I realized I too need to make a new, smaller one. Lugging around a 5 foot stretch of melamine quickly gets old!
@mr.purple1549
@mr.purple1549 Жыл бұрын
Board in front makes perfect sense. Thanks
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking Жыл бұрын
Happy to help. It makes this process so much easier and faster
@texdentist
@texdentist Ай бұрын
I have seen numerous videos showing a sled with the raised edge at the back. That never made sense to me. Your way is the way common sense told me it should be done. Thanks for explaining!
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking Ай бұрын
Totally, those fences in the back make sense on a jointer or table saw where person power pushed the wood through, but not on a planer
@gregfraser3852
@gregfraser3852 Ай бұрын
Thanks!! I have been jointing this way for a long time now and I notice other with the block at the back ? I and though I was wrong and it made me think about it again
@AaronGeller
@AaronGeller Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a 30” sled and then a larger one since that melamine or MDF can be heavy.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking Жыл бұрын
Good idea. My smaller one, still 46 inches, was way lighter, but it bowed. This new one I'm storing flat on the wall so it hopefully won't bow again, but I needed a 5 foot sled for the project I'm working on. It is a beast, especially when loaded with a 5 foot 8/4 walnut board!
@ericcsinger
@ericcsinger 10 ай бұрын
Still need to get my first planer, but I’ve been wondering about a sled with some clamps might mitigate the shims. So picture a the same sled you built, but have a moveable fence in the rear that could “clamp” the board to the front fence. I would think if the clamp pressure was tight enough, the rollers couldn’t compress the board, and it would mitigate the need for shims. Hoping to try it out once I get a planer.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 10 ай бұрын
That would work to some degree but you'll still need to shim. The rollers on the planer push down so hard they'll flatten the board as it goes through the cutter head. But that's a good idea to hold the board in place to make it easier to operate
@andrula
@andrula 10 ай бұрын
Thx. Also a good idea to use a pencil to scribble over the board so you know for sure the planet has got to all parts of the surface. 👍
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 10 ай бұрын
Great tip!
@stanfordsimon4771
@stanfordsimon4771 Жыл бұрын
If its this easy, gota try this to see for myself.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking Жыл бұрын
It is. You can do it. It's easier this way than using a jointer for wide boards too
@j.frankparnell3087
@j.frankparnell3087 5 ай бұрын
I have found that with heavy boards I can usually go without glue. However, with smaller, lighter boards the shims would sometimes vibrate out of position. I use hot glue to stabilize these shims.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 5 ай бұрын
That definitely makes sense. The biggest thing is to turn the sled around and put that fence in front and not behind the board. But I agree, this works well for bigger boards and glue is good for the small ones.
@michaeldequatro1012
@michaeldequatro1012 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip, but I have a question. Most times when I'm feeding a board (doesn't matter if it's flat or not) the board starts to turn before it's finished. What am I doing wrong? Thank you.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking Ай бұрын
Some boards will do that. If the wood is more dense on one side (say one side has less dense sapwood) or one side is a little thicker the machine will cut faster on the less dense/thinner side and the board will start to turn. Or say the planer hits a knot the knot will slow the machine down but particularly in that spot and cause the board to shift. On the out feed side you can help guide the board and keep it aligned as it exits the machine.
@michaeldequatro1012
@michaeldequatro1012 Ай бұрын
@@keatonbeyerwoodworking Thank you
@mundlkalli4396
@mundlkalli4396 2 ай бұрын
Either I missed it or you didnt show the flat/planed side. ?????
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 2 ай бұрын
At the 6:00 mark I showed the board after it was flattened and mentioned it's ready to be flipped over and run through the planer to flatten/parallel the opposite side.
@atwong713
@atwong713 10 ай бұрын
Does this work with longer boards? Like around 8 feet?
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 10 ай бұрын
Yes it does, you'd need an 8 foot sled for it to set your shims. Having a flat panel like this wouldn't be the best at that length either because it will bow when you pick it up so I'd suggest using hot glue in that instance to glue everything in place to help keep the jig flat as you move it and the shims in place. At 8 feet the jig and board will be pretty heavy and hard to control so you might want a second person to help you out. Mine's 5 feet which is unruly but manageable, I'd prefer shorter but I needed it that length for a project.
@alans1816
@alans1816 10 ай бұрын
Usually when hot glue is used, a fence is too. The hot glue plays the role of your shims, but won't fall out. Some use wedges locked in with hot glue, but some just use the glue.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 10 ай бұрын
The major point is to put the fence in the front. I usually see the fences in the back which really isn't doing much. If you want to hot glue the shims so they don't move that's great. I find the glue slows down this already slow process
@alans1816
@alans1816 10 ай бұрын
@@keatonbeyerwoodworking You are completely right about the position and need for the fence.
@peadookie
@peadookie 2 ай бұрын
Hey, just want to let you know you’ve got organic vapor cartridges in your respirator :)
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 2 ай бұрын
Totally did. I have since switched to P100s. Thanks for looking out for me, we don't always know everything :)
@Dahna_
@Dahna_ 11 ай бұрын
please help me understand why the stop should be in the front. the cutters are running towards the back so it would push the board back if it were going to slide right? the cutters aren't pushing it towards that stop. is it for the rollers? the rollers would be going forward but I just thought you were supposed to put the stop opposite the way the cutters would push it. help me understand please.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 11 ай бұрын
The rollers pull the board forward. If the fence is in the back then the rollers will pull the board right off the sled. That's why you see other people on KZfaq use hot glue to secure the board to the sled because the fence isn't doing anything. My method uses the fence properly. Another way to think about it, when running a board through without a sled the board doesn't have any fence in the back but it still moves forward through the machine. The rollers resist the cutter so the board doesn't kick back. The sled isn't hitting the rollers so it needs a way to move forward with the board, hence the fence in the front to drag the sled with the board. Hope that helps!
@andrula
@andrula 10 ай бұрын
Also, why it’s important to take fine passes. If you try to take too much in a single pass the cutters will almost certainly push the board away from the stop bar.
@bryanl7993
@bryanl7993 8 ай бұрын
I'm laughing at myself for doing it backwards for so long. Thanks!
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 8 ай бұрын
Try it out. It's way faster this way, especially if you're brave enough to go without hot glue to hold the shims in. It does make it trickier moving the board and sled around, especially if the board is big, but man is it easier and nicer to not deal with hot glue
@Reviews-Tidbits
@Reviews-Tidbits 5 ай бұрын
I use hot glue on boards that are really twisted.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 5 ай бұрын
That does work. I find shimming to be enough but hot glue does help hold everything in place and is good for a little extra security.
@rf8driver
@rf8driver Жыл бұрын
Are you sure that planer makes climb cuts?
@rf8driver
@rf8driver Жыл бұрын
Just got it, it's the feed rollers.
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking Жыл бұрын
Yep. The rollers pull the board in and past the cutter. Hence fence in the back is useless
@rf8driver
@rf8driver Жыл бұрын
@@keatonbeyerwoodworking I've sure wasted a lot of hot glue.
@ravenheart1439
@ravenheart1439 4 күн бұрын
Well ..if anyone has tried planing on a sled finds out real fast the fence needs to be in front...it's common sense really...
@keatonbeyerwoodworking
@keatonbeyerwoodworking 4 күн бұрын
And yet, every other KZfaq video on the topic shows it being done with the fence in the back.
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