Perfect opening line "Unless you can prove your doing track speed, you get a street set-up". This vid makes so much sense to what I'm seeing on my bikes at different track days when I slow down towards the end of the day due to fitness.

even after 4 decades racing ,now doin track days (now i'm an old man lol) i'm still learning a lot VIA the science you're providing trough out your channel. i wish you a great 2020 year MR MOSS. your videos confort me into my beliefs that the suspension and tires are the most crucial parts for safe and fast lap times.

Good day to you. Thank you for the video; I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to setup my bike. I have an idea and I'm not afraid to tinker with the settings, looking forward to riding on a new setup.

love watching Dave work the bike suspensions. I cant get enough of this.

Excellent video Dave. Thanks for all your help and education over the years, truly priceless!

That blues at the end baby!! Love you guys, I always rewatch the free bees!

This happened to me on the road actually. After my first track day I improved on my trail braking and riding position a lot. Last week sold my Gsxr 750 k4 and bought MV F3 800. While riding the bike home I’ve noticed my front it’s too soft and my shock too stiff . For a first time I will attempt to change suspension settings, thanks to watching plenty of your videos. Here in Scotland there’s plenty of bumpy and great roads. Got few wobbles even without pushing the bike. Ordered steering damper but not going to install until I improve the setup and lesser the pressure I apply on my bars 🤩

Thank you for re-reading this is seriously important to safety. All about the suspension

Awesome clip yet again, can't believe ice never heard about you Dave until a random 'next play 'on my KZfaq on phone last weekend. Will be telling all the bikers I meet up with about your channel fella! 👍🏍😎 keep up the awesome work, & media content #BOOOOOM

thumbs up for the excellent sound effects @ 10:17

awesome video definitely gained a lot of knowledge from this.

Will be there in 2 years and I will ask for Dave. Great vid

Agreed your videos are getting much better, including the 10:17 was funny

Great video and explanations . Thx Enjoyed it much

Great explanation, it makes perfect sense. Thanks

Dave still getting it glad he still rides and keeps his awesome skill up as much as he can stand or has time for we all get older and never know how bad we miss the youth years till you just cannot do that anymore I am in that spot where I am noticing that my body just won't do things it used to and it sucks ass lol keep up the great work and teaching Dave

So happy to have found your channel. Hate to admit it but I've put 50K miles on my FZ8 without realizing it's almost fully adjustable suspension. Playing with it after watching your videos it feels like a new bike. Thanks man!

Very Cool videos,just wanna say Thanks man I’m lucky Jammie James works on my FJR n makes it all good for this old man to Ride !! From Cajun Country

No I wish I bought the monster 821 stripe and not the standard hahahaha. Great video. Subscribed.

Thank YOU ALL - for the explanations and bringing me a mere mortal up to speed. Tuning on a 68 Tiger Triumph - was just making sure the air vent for the front brakes was not blocked. Trust me - I drove - like everyone - was going to kill me. Only once did I ever toss the anchor off the pillion - to ensure I stopped. Something about a Ton - and where it was. I guess that 6' in front of a 69 Camaro - and me being in front of them off the light, Well - the cornflakes were yellow - must have been the whiz I dumped Last incarnation - was an 82 Kawa 750 Twin. That little note twin adds a whole can of whoop-ass to what ever you do. I spent 6 months looking over torque charts, vs rpm. Then using software on a gear cutter site. Well - I dropped the running gear by 3500 rpm. Evil Jimmie comes out - and I look over - one thing, what gear ratio gives me max RPM. - Max Torque. I hit it. Bike went to 55mph - IMP, most any day. On days when I held the beast back - well I got 55 mph. That was my best work. And I had a series that crested as 67mpg - accelerating while I had the throttle all closed. Cheers!

Excellent video! Thanks!

Love these videos

Best YTB channel ever. Period.

Your videos are awesome, just subscribed.

I am literally amazed that you can know that from looking at a tire. My god, where do you normally ride Dave? I am doing my first track day here soon in SoCal.

Bought F3-800..and I think and feel the suspension need to be reset up to fit my novice skill level..Thanks Dave and to your partner.

We Need someone like Moss in Germany. My Suspension from my Benelli TNT need‘s too get Fixed!

Junky suspension back in the day was also called character.drilling damper rods different springs and a witches brew of different oil weights were the name of the day. And man! What a great feeling when it was set up right back then!.

ALMOST 100K SUBS. Love your vids guys! Learning a ton.

In the first two minutes you taught me something significant! In two days I have watched close to 30 videos and am amazed. I am a new rider of about three months but am trying to slowly increase my speed and lean in corners on the streets so I don't always have a car up my ass, as well as enjoying the corners a tonne more! Well, I went out to check my tyres and noticed just before the sidewall that it had that shiny clean look to the tyre, as well as some kind of white paint look which confused me. This makes sense as my tyres stipulate 42 psi (cold) on front and back and I have been doing as it says. If you are riding around on the street but enjoy the occasional near knee to the ground on tight bends whilst going quite slow (i.e. 50km/h), how far should you reduce the psi under recommendations? Also, my bike (MT03) does not allow for changing fork suspension at all which is a shame because it is so incredibly stiff but I can adjust preload on the shock absorber - which to be honest is quite confusing after watching your video and comparing it to my bike as it all moves in one motion and is quite bouncy only having one setting - but I am going to adjust the spring preload and harden the suspension a tiny bit. The only thing that worries me is that driving highway speeds especially increasing revs, despite holding the handles rather loosely, every bump that isn't even noticeable on the road transfers right into my wrists which is a major pain! P.S. you are ripping at the track!

Another piece of the puzzle gets understandable, Can you 2 Dave\s do a similar video on compresson, i still need to get a better understanding of compression tire wear.

Now I'm curious as to if going to a new track would require a new suspension setup or if your freshly dialed in setup would work wherever and only need to be "tuned up" with time... Awesome vids. Thanks for posting.

I set my preload for heavier weight than I currently am, so about 20 mm on sag. so I can get greater ground clearance / increased ride height. And then I make compression to be soft and increase compression for fast speed like canyon carving. Rebound setting is always at middle. I'm afraid I'm doing it wrong because sag is not correct but is there anyway I maintain my current sag/ride height for the setup that match my pace?

Nice

love you. pros

From my journey as a group 1 track day beginner, to ending up winning an amateur championship a few years later, all on the same bike, I went up three spring rates on my rear shock and had it revalved once.

Great vid Dave as usual, noticed that you have Diablo Rosso Corsa tyres fitted. Do you prefer these to the supercorsa? If you use them I guess they are more than good enough for the track. I’m due for a new set of tyres but ride 50/50 street and track, would the Rosso’s be ok for that? Thanks

I dont quite understand, if you are breaking harder do you add compression damping or preload? or both?

I wish there was a little bit more time spoken about setup which is what I requested on the search engine thanks anyway I’m trying to work out pre-load dampening on my new r1

Yep. My car is very stiff at low speeds, but at higher speeds it's MUCH smoother.

I live in florida its pretty much always hot with very high humidity I was wondering what yall think I should have my tire pressure at I've read some forms and people have said 32 32 front and rear I definitely need to find someone that can help set my suspension up its very stiff

This makes me question, why aren't they electric. Should not be difficult to chocke a small opening depending on the speed and or vibration and temperature etc.

thanks...now i have to upgrade the suspension on my mt10 just because 😂

9:15 why do you add preload for faster riding? Is that correct? Where can i find info or a video clip explaining all of that? Is it bc it makes the suspension react faster therefore handling the speed better? I can see that... What's the best way i can learn and figure all this stuff out for me?

Would added compression damping help when you're out of pre load? When you're bottoming out the front fork

When Dave Moss checks the front rebound he says to do it with the front brake on, this produces a lot of fore/aft movement and the fuel in the tank will slosh backwards and forwards giving a false impression, am I right? My rebound settings are completely different from brake on and brake off and brake off is more realistic.

Dave...what is the lifetime for forkoil...is there a maximum to use..?and where is to find what viscosity of oil is used bij every brand motor?

Yeh imm going through rear tyres like there's no tomorrow...need a set up .... street

Dave, how do I schedule a remote suspension tune? I will be riding at Buttonwillow this Monday and unfortunately you won't be there :/

Dave I was wondering how you set up a motorcycle for a rider for there riding style I ask because I was thinking about an article I read it was Team Suzuki with Matt Mladin and Aron Yates where they switched bikes and nether one could ride the others bike at any kind of decent pace. Is there a point in setting up a motorcycle where one would deviate from the "standard" way of setting up a bike so the bike feels better for there style of riding? If so could a video be made to touch on this point?

When do you visit some european tracks dave, i would need your skills sir :)

Hey please talk about high viscous oil for forks....so please let me know that for agressive riding hi viscous oil will help or not...Many thanks in advance ;D ;)) cheers !! :)

How to set up when the front have normal forks and the back habe high and low speed. We are talking about a Sport touring bike that weights 300kg. My static at the back seems pretty large. I have a Wilbers 640 at the back and progressive springs at front. When I sit on the bike it goes down more at the back. Should I level my bike? I have noticed that the bike does not respond quite well when I drive little bit faster on curves. When static is at the back too much, should I raise spring at the back or just leave it and then set on 22 clicks(closed)and than open one by one until I find proper settings for my riding style.

Dave, you've setup 2 of my bikes before, both with stock suspension and they've always worked great. Now my new(to me) bike is a 2013 r1, stock suspension. I notice that it bottoms out no matter what adjustments I make to them. Even just riding around in the pits and hitting the brakes. Could it be a faulty install by the "mechanic" who rebuilt the forks?

Hi Dave, I have just bought a Suzuki GSXR 750 K8 track bike...the bike is quite difficult to turn requiring a concerted effort on the bars..then when it turns it drops into the corner so quick i have to lift it again to make the corner. Have you any idea why it’s like this?

So when you bottom out the forks you add preload. And by adding preload to the forks you also always add preload to the shock so the bike stays balanced or not?

Everyone is looking at HP, a new exaust etc etc, but the only important things are tyre and suspensions. Dave are you going to visit italy? I need help 😅

Im 5'8 175lbs ..I hope going from a 6.3kg spring to a 9.4 (racetech n ohlins rep advice) wont ruin my setup. I have .9 upfront and run hard but in slower group ( 2 track days ) . I think you told me before that 9.4 is the right direction. Would a stock srad shock compensate if its too stiff? 3w oil in rear

so does this suggest that a rider should likely be adjusting there suspension frequently based on the riding planned for the day/trip?

It is utterly mystfying pain the butt to even think about! DAMN I dont want to have to be a suspension geek! It's like either I learn all this stuff or drive hours to get to someone to do it for me. If you ask me it is sounding more and more to me like it is high time for suspension technology to step up to the plate and basically end this nightmare1 We have such good computing these days and sensors so at the very minimum bike manufacturers ought to be able to at least TELL the rider what needs to be changed and how! How hard would it be to have travel sensors front and rear? Easily done and tire temperature alsong with tire pressure? simple as installying sensors that transmit Now on a high end bike couple these with a bikes ability to adjust damping on the fly (which of course already exists) and also ride height and/or preload/ I dont see any of this being a big problem and with scale of mass production it could be really reasonable expecially for the lower end that simply has the computer recommending adjustments ukat=y done whining,,,,,already sorry U did bir buy rgw MT10 SP ..,,I opted instead to save $4k by the tune I COULD get a deal on the standard MT10 but on the SP they would not budge past 19500 otd sigh ,,,,,but on the bright side I have the extra funds to invest in the bike....I am thinking forged wheels! and maybe a high end shock although all I do is ride the twistiess so maybe it is wasted money. I just love to be able to keep up with a lot of younger riders on sportbikes anyway I can sa safely do so which mainly via practice riding the same sections of road over and over. The power of the 10 seems to help me overcome some slowness caused ny lack of corner commitment with raw acceleration from corner to corner ....it amazes me how many better riders I can keep up with this style,,,,they are smoother using less hard braking and acceleration so we are like yo yo spacing where they gain on me and then I catch right back up rinse and repeat over and over....I know suspension is one of the big things thwarting my commitment but for now safety is paramount

If you can find me better suspension for my 1992 xj400 diversion I will get it

3:50 that's a different tire. What happened with the other? Was it destroyed or can it continue under the new pace of riding and suspension

Man I REALLY want my suspension tuned by you, where are you located? :)

CB1000R.. my weight 's 62 kg. How can i setting My bike, pls. Recommended.

I’m assuming that’s the 675 triple MV?

If you’re 105 kg, no matter how slow you are, the suspension is likely going to be too soft for you on any stock sport bike, I’d imagine?

How do you tell if suspension is too harsh due to preload or compression damping

I know what you mean, everybody say that Marquez's style is very similar to mine and I struggle with suspension never being up to my needs.

I wish I could ride to pass my suspension settings

the more you do trackdays, the less you want to ride (fast) on the streets...

D. M. T.

The bike whispera

Am I the only one that can’t stop staring at that ugly white rear seat?

These guys are too big for their bike. Instead of bigger springs, maybe go on diet.