Your Team's Best Players: OVERRATED or UNDERRATED?

Your Team's Best Players: OVERRATED or UNDERRATED? | Team Talk

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10 ай бұрын

Patrick, Dougie, Henry & Mikey join Zac in another heated episode of Team Talk. Start Bench Release kicks the show off as per usual before some venom starts to enter the debate as soon as the crew have to decide whether Mitoma, Enzo Fernandez, Virgil van Dijk & Phil Foden are overrated or underrated - and they can't sit on the fence!
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@bencarroll-turnbull5734 10 ай бұрын

This show is always so consistently good, and Zac's point allocation consistently makes no sense at all 🤣

@BestBoyPatrick 10 ай бұрын

I think this is my second favourite FD show. Only Sunday Vibes does it more for me but that’s because it’s been years. I love this strand so much

@brandonmeadows8552 10 ай бұрын

There too 10s are some of my favorite as well, along with Sunday and Monday vibes

@alexseedhouse9904 10 ай бұрын

Agreed. I like this one too

@CoIumbo 10 ай бұрын

Yes lad

@The3rdMan198 10 ай бұрын

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@tylerstubbings1 10 ай бұрын

this is by far my fav FD show. I love sunday/monday vibes but they can feel a bit scripted where as this just seems like 4 people giving their honest unfiltered opinions and love it! No idea how points are awarded though but love it!

@Lofize 10 ай бұрын

Yeah its a great concept, both relevant and ball knowledge topics. Points are i think awarded based on their arguments and effort shown although Zack's judgement is sometimes a bit off lmao

@user-ho7eb6tq4i 10 ай бұрын

Imo 1. Team talk 2. Sunday vibes 3. Monday vibes 4. We need to talk 5.continental club The rest But this is from a biased guy who only watches the prem really

@aloysiusmaina2625 10 ай бұрын

Pat vs. Dougie on Enzo Fernández was EPIC! Knockout popcorn 🍿 entertainment 😋.

@harri5972 10 ай бұрын

Pat looked like he was rlly holding back from loosing his shit

@parmesan6429 10 ай бұрын

Pat absolutely schooling dougie there

@Enigma19 9 ай бұрын

Looks a bit silly now

@walterg9321 10 ай бұрын

Fun fact - that Barcelona 12/13 team got a 100 points. That season Fabregas got 11 goals and 12 assists. He was still immense

@rayenkhelifi9749 10 ай бұрын

Yeah he was almost playing as third attacker alongside Sanchez and Messi. Fabregas is hella underrated these days.

@NPCSpotter 10 ай бұрын

One of my favorite players but it’s sad they couldn’t fit both him and Thiago. They should’ve left him at Arsenal

@chuckle501 10 ай бұрын

"Dougie please" genuinely had me in stitches 🤣🤣🤣

@fluxity88 10 ай бұрын

I remember when Pato called Foden “just some bloke” when he was first coming through at City😂Glad he’s stayed true to his opinion

@raveninnsbruck9166 10 ай бұрын

Said the same about Bernardo Silva too…

@Sparkz147 10 ай бұрын

Henry's passion in putting across his points would be really convincing if he didn't sound like he was going to cry half way through his speeches 😂

@FootballDaily 10 ай бұрын

FD is an emotional place to work what can I say 🥲 [Henry]

@damookster5919 10 ай бұрын

I’ve said it before but these long videos and talks can really make my day when they come out. They never miss, and they always are about something interesting even with less to work with in the quiet summer months

@AwakeningFromADream 10 ай бұрын

I love the confidence Pat carries especially when he openly says he doesn’t watch football - the argument for VVD was top notch

@ashdude3058 10 ай бұрын

It’s because he’s the only one who wasn’t viewing van dijk from a football twitter meme perspective. also, the Football Daily cast consistently know nothing about Liverpool.

@daledadolphin 10 ай бұрын

Iniesta scored winning goal in the World Cup final in Spain’s first ever win. And scored that stoppage time winner against Chelsea in CL semi for Peps first CL win. But the lads say he’s not an impact player. Put respect on his name!

@Albyman 10 ай бұрын

Recognised as one of the greatest midfielders of his generation yet is still criminally underrated. Damn right, put some respect on his name!

@christaylor9656 10 ай бұрын

Zach as the host is Goat material, oozing comedy. His point decisions crack me up.

@InsidiousTyrant 10 ай бұрын

I love this show on FD. Always so good. Love the debates every time. Please keep these coming!

@ibrahimf-5189 10 ай бұрын

ı have been following fd more than 3 years and this episode is among the my all time favorites. really great chemistry.

@MaheshMenon 10 ай бұрын

Love Pato's cynicism. This man is idolo.

@christaylor9656 10 ай бұрын

Team talk, continental club, monday vibes and sunday vibes top tier content. Great job FD. We need 3 more to fill out the week plz.

@steveclaresic8108 10 ай бұрын

could have watched this for hours! Love you guys, keep up the good work!

@Mattjonesll 10 ай бұрын

“Stepped up in major tournaments” & has Iniesta to be released. 😂😂 Scored the only goal in the World Cup final to win it for Spain & scored the winner against Chelsea away in the last minute to send them through in the CL they ended up winning.

@davidevans6755 10 ай бұрын

Great cast, great takes

@elijahwetzel8572 10 ай бұрын

The FD content has been so good this summer, looking forward to the new season

@fpl_djhammer 10 ай бұрын

this is my absolute FAVOURITE FD show no others comes close 😂 just LOVE watching the likes of Pato, Dougie, McCubs and even Henry duke it out with words

@shanecummins8567 10 ай бұрын

Didn’t Iniesta get MOTM in all the major finals but they keep down playing his big moments

@karimd88 10 ай бұрын

Haven’t had a great day. This is exactly what I need right now, thanks guys

@FootballDaily 10 ай бұрын

Hope you feel better soon mate!

@04lraffaini 10 ай бұрын

EASILY, the best cast - with Zak doing the presentation and NOT sharing his very questionable knowledge 😆

@benjamenfenton3585 10 ай бұрын

Proper cheLsea fan

@luisenriquelander8044 10 ай бұрын

Its not fair to talk about Foden not palying a starring role in a PEP team. A guy who rotates everyone, no matter how good they are. I think Foden has benefitted all he can from Pep, i think hed be world class and fullfill his potential under somebody else, who would give him a consistent precise position. Exactly what he needs. Btw if Foden was in that Bayern team, he would do the same if not better than musiala. Being a player like that, a young player, is insanely difficult under pep cause he simply loves to rotate, and adpat.

@jackmessier3288 10 ай бұрын

Not to mention he was injured for a large part of last season

@randy2152 10 ай бұрын

Stones got completely dropped by Pep at one point and all these lads acknowledge he’s the best defender on the planet.

@cameronsingh8007 10 ай бұрын

Another great episode of Team Talk lads 👏👏🙂

@simonherckens5509 10 ай бұрын

Love the arguing 😅

@clauslarsen8971 10 ай бұрын

Fabregas cost more than Kroos but he "wasn't expensive"

@mohammadasif839 10 ай бұрын

This is the most sensible Team Talk lineup. All the arguments were backed with good knowledge based insights.

@kehindeonibada4822 10 ай бұрын

Emile Smith Rowe disrespect is crazy. Apparently he's not a good enough dribbler when that's his best attribute

@lilherve 10 ай бұрын

Please, give us more often this discussion panel. Best FD so far

@MrFFHN 9 ай бұрын

This was my first time watching you guys and let me say that starting with that midfield impossible choice immediately glued me to the rest of the conversation

@peggy237 10 ай бұрын

Was really tired today so i fell asleep listenin to this vid, only to get abruptly woken up by the boys sbouting at each other about what the word "overrated" means, good shit guys, this is why i subbed.

@jackjohnson217 10 ай бұрын

Mccubbin has definitely found his voice in the FD crew. Loved the passion from everyone!

@caffina5882 10 ай бұрын

These episodes with the white boards and discussions are the best ones ever. Love them so much.

@aloysiusmaina2625 10 ай бұрын

McCubs, thank you so much for the vocal performance!

@upsidedownwithkris6754 10 ай бұрын

never disappoint

@fisokuhlemsimang1554 10 ай бұрын

I think we really understate how vital it is for certain players legacies to have played in a team with Messi & Ronaldo.

@olamide2009 10 ай бұрын

Pat really knows how to articulate his thoughts. Know how to speak really well during an argument.

@facts9793 10 ай бұрын

Pep ‘doesn’t trust foden’ your forgetting the last 5 years. Foden was the main false 9 for 2 years at city which only Messi was trusted with by pep. Foden isn’t even playing in his position (10) and he is world class. Once KDB goes you will see the real foden. Btw foden is a huge huge champions league player

@JR-sj1jz 10 ай бұрын

No issues with people calling Van Dijk overrated. Though I do find it amusing when someone says he is only great because he has Alisson. Before that injury, if you called Alisson the best goalkeeper in the world, the pushback would have been he is only great because he has Van Dijk in front of him. That being said, saying he isn't great because he hasn't transformed the Dutch national team is a bit rich, especially from an English man. I never heard anyone use that same argument when talking about the likes of Rio, Terry, Lampard, Ashley Cole, Gerrard, Rooney, Scholes etc. And those England teams were far more talented than this era of Dutch teams.

@_jnk7984 10 ай бұрын

favourite fd show🙏

@joewilliams561 10 ай бұрын

Team talk is goated because this is literally standard pub chat for all of us lads across the country😂

@ShootingsBootings 10 ай бұрын

Dougie is struggling to understand that no one in the general public views Enzo as a 100m player, however the average fan will use it to downplay him, which is WHY hes underrated.

@rohankekre1350 10 ай бұрын

Foden is definitely underrated at this point. The players that were mentioned during his arguments like Saka, Pedri, Bellingham, etc. haven't even played at the highest levels yetx whereas Foden was one of the main reasons why City went to the 2021 UCL final, similarly he had one of the biggest impact in the 21/22 season. People forget that Foden has had to compete with Sterling, Mahrez, Bernardo, Sane, Jesus and now Grealish for game time in a Pep Guardiola side, whereas there's zero competition for Saka in the Arsenal side. If you change clubs, Foden would still have the same impact in that system if not better as Saka and Saka eould also not start week in week out at City. Also, you know with Saka that he can essentially only play RW (similar to Mahrez), while Foden has literally played across the entire front 3 throughout his career.

@randy2152 10 ай бұрын

Foden has shown world class levels and since his appendix exploded he his being harmed for it.

@KerryTom1 10 ай бұрын

Saka literally started as a left winger for Arsenal has also played left wing back, and centre mid, so that puts that part of your argument to bed. Does Saka have competition for England??? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Oh that's right, he does and one of the players he's keeping out of that team on merit, is your boy Foden. Thank you and good night. 😛

@ColbyMcDowell 10 ай бұрын

@@KerryTom1ur gaffer is Southgate… do i need to say more?

@Bickle121 10 ай бұрын

City are just impossible to judge because every season they have a different guy who is the key, every year the system changes and different players become important and different players come on the bench

@tm_yt496 10 ай бұрын

Hes overrated lol

@ajmolabedin5739 10 ай бұрын

Liverpool have reportedly added Cheick Doucoure to their midfield shortlist this summer, but face competition from Paris Saint-Germain

@aayushrai8881 10 ай бұрын

Been watching football long enough to agree with Henry's shout. Zidane was outstanding when the spotlight was on, but was inconsistent otherwise. Iniesta and Xavi were far more consistent over the course of their careers. We have footballers like Zidane and Ronaldinho on a pedestal as some of the greatest based on their peaks, and not their average.

@putridautomotive5371 10 ай бұрын

I love when people can just listen to each others arguments😎

@rezaesmaili10 10 ай бұрын

Very interesting

@yaasiin4347 10 ай бұрын

mccub's has an impressive understanding and perception when judging players abilities given their context, his arguments always make complete sense

@Henry_Talks_Anime 10 ай бұрын

Football Daily Elite content. The 4 debating with Zach mediating, I don’t think there’s a better line up

@MaxDangVu 10 ай бұрын

McCubbin and Henry singing the Onana song 🤣😂

@alexseedhouse9904 10 ай бұрын

It's a different word because it means a different thing 😂😂😂😂

@alexseedhouse9904 10 ай бұрын

Pato stitches me up

@francie6278 10 ай бұрын

Personally I think Zidane is one of the greatest footballers of all time, I was actually really surprised that everyone didn’t have him top of their whiteboards.

@rossneil4413 10 ай бұрын

Nobodies saying he isn’t one of the greatest.

@angusmayo4493 10 ай бұрын

on his day absolutely one of the best to ever do it but the consistency point definitely has weight, some people have him in the top 10 of all time convo which is a bit ridiculous but for sure deserves to be considered on a similar level to xavi

@never_around0010 10 ай бұрын

Because the internet has brained washed everyone to think Xavi was the greatest ever to do it lol smh

@rossneil4413 10 ай бұрын

@@never_around0010 no brainwashing needed

@shagrrr1865 10 ай бұрын

too inconsistent to be a potential GOAT in my opinion

@fz-tag 10 ай бұрын

I SWEAR I click one these as fast I can so that they know the interest rate is up, I don't wanna lose this series again lads

@callumdoyle5025 10 ай бұрын

On the VVD conversation, it was brought up that Terry is considered one of the greates defenders to ever play in the Premier League, is it possible to make the point that Terry's defensive numbers would never be as good as they were due to Cech being Chelseas' goalkeeper, just as the argument is being made that VVD is at best good because of what Allison does for Liverpool? After all, England achieved SFA with Ferdinand and Terry as the linchpins of the defensive line for years, so if VVDs' international career is used against him, why not with Ferdinand or Terry? Ultimately this is an argument of opinion, and it's hard to say VVD was overrated last season when everyone online was at best saying he was as good as maguire, and far more often simply a finished waste of space that is useless defensively.

@hastftw_ 10 ай бұрын

Like this episode of the show, my favorite one.

@MichaelJones-wh9cy 10 ай бұрын

Dougie has had some rogue shouts recently

@rene5258 9 ай бұрын

The fact Pat didn’t get a point for that Enzo discussion was wild 🤯

@FuerstMykisch 10 ай бұрын

Dougie's point about Enzo being overrated because being overprized works only if the question is: "Did Chelsea overrate Enzo?" But since the question is "Is he generally overrated?", it does not work. Let us assume that a Saudi Club paid 200 millions Euro for Modric, then people would not jump to the conclusion that Modric had been overrated in general but that this club paid too much (I am not taking into account publicity and shirt sales, just football-wise). Also, the point should have gone to Pat since it was him who insisted on the fact that Dougie was too much relying on the argument: overprized, therefore overrated.

@tmoneytrev9798 10 ай бұрын

Think this should would do better with a second judge. That way each judge can award 1 point to who they think had the best argument each round. It would even out the scoring method. And probably help with Zach’s indecisive awarding of points 😂

@flowiiassistentofficial8854 10 ай бұрын

funny how yall revised the release and sell option XDD

@_trvekvlt 10 ай бұрын

here for another round of Dougie howlers

@JJ-sz4ee 10 ай бұрын

Iniesta big game & technical credentials seriously underrated in this one.

@jinzo_ningen2513 10 ай бұрын

Mudryk also had just left a country at war, everyone forgets that part

@sgasdgas2960 10 ай бұрын

When is stat wars coming back??

@adrano_ 10 ай бұрын

The VvD criticism is genuinely a rewriting of history at this point. No one was saying he was the best CB of all time in the Prem and he actually had a massive effect on LFC when he joined. People seem to forget how good he was and still can be when the team in front of him isn’t a disjointed. Ridiculous to see how fast people can change their opinion and rewrite history in their minds on one season 😂

@peace4045 10 ай бұрын

No one claims he was the best in prem ? Seems like u r the one who is rewriting history.

@rbstickymicky66 10 ай бұрын

Think the point is he had a really good season so people carried that over to his next seasons where he was poor and we’re still rating him soo highly and using the past when in current time he was really awful

@eddiebles_ 10 ай бұрын

Bro, that Onana chant😂😂😂😭

@Tobioluwole 10 ай бұрын

Iniesta over Xavi for sure and I agree on average Iniesta did put in better performances but Zidane probably had the most memorable ones

@arjunchoudhary5047 10 ай бұрын

That guy put Smith Rowe in the first when the brother hasnt played in 12 months.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ColbyMcDowell 10 ай бұрын

I’m fine w people calling Foden overrated, everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but that guy saying “he hasn’t shown up in every season”, buddy, first of all he got injured, second of all he led city to the UCL in 20/21, carried city through crucial games in 21/22 for the prem title (Brentford, Everton, etc.) and lastly look at who he competes with… I still think he’s better than Saka, but again that’s my belief, but acting like Saka, after one good season, is light years ahead, is bs

@ivanharrison241 10 ай бұрын

Guys, you should know how the recruitment process works at a top club. You're experts after all. Just watch some All or Nothing episodes.

@jonnylawwd1 10 ай бұрын

Regarding Enzo I actually think he is both Under and over. He was overrated by the club & staff that signed him (hence the fee as he wasn’t worth that fee) but underrated by general fan as they’ve shat on him because of his price & seem to over look his quality.

@tomlever1494 10 ай бұрын

Yeah pretty much, he was overpriced at £107m but on the other hand he’s a fantastic player who if you take the price and bias of rivalry away is a top quality player for a guy in his position for his age.

@fancyLD 10 ай бұрын

who isn’t overpriced at that price, none of the other 100mil signings are any better than him imo

@peace4045 10 ай бұрын

Even the club dont overrate him. They wanted him and just overpaid for him. U r making the same argument dougie make which are less relevant than the argument for underrated

@nicolascastelli4439 10 ай бұрын

@@tomlever1494 Not overpriced at all.

@tomlever1494 10 ай бұрын

@@nicolascastelli4439 time will tell I hope not 😂

@andrethomas4885 10 ай бұрын

30:26 the song 😂😂😂

@NiightBiike 10 ай бұрын

Preseason starts today:)

@roge6675 10 ай бұрын

The knock against Iniesta and big games not taking over is kinda flawed, he's the only player in history to win MOTM in a CL, WC and Euro final, and if you watch back those games, it was rightfully deserved, he was incredible and aside from Zidane, I haven't seen a more technically gifted MF in the past 20 years than him, his dribbling was almost on par with Messi in his prime, he was unbelievable, and I also think that Iniesta could do everything Xavi could, but yeah I'll admit not as good as Xavi in some regards, but Xavi could not do everything Iniesta did

@chrisdunne9161 10 ай бұрын

Undoubtedly had a bad season as well as Liverpool as a whole but people have forgotten too quickly that it took nearly a year for Van Dijk to be dribbled past even once while also hitting cross field passes like it was nothing

@dohnjoe4516 10 ай бұрын

Pickford also threw literally his whole body weight at Virgil's knee, and people expect him to come back the same. Crazy thinking

@EminentKnight 10 ай бұрын

Didn't Kane score a solo goal against VVD when he was playing at Southampton? 😅

@chrisdunne9161 10 ай бұрын

@@EminentKnight and then took a Championship left back at the time (Robbo), a young center back in his first season in Europe (Gomez), a midfielder academy graduate turn fullback because of injuries (TAA), and Loris Karius, to a Champions League Final the very next. Take a seat next question

@anotherguy3082 10 ай бұрын

Amazing player, but that dribbling stat was bollocks. He got beaten numerous times that didn't count as dribbles, and was infamous for just constantly backing off instead of actually going for a tackle.

@chrisdunne9161 10 ай бұрын

@@anotherguy3082 I agree, but that goes back to FD’s arguments, it was very system based. While Robbo pushed up the field, VVD had to sweep. I think in another system he gets dribbled past more often, but for a defense that nobody expected to do anything, he changed that team entirely. He was the guy that got Klopp to implement his “heavy metal football”

@callvms5362 10 ай бұрын

I like the rated segment but I do think we need to add a ‘perfectly rated’ section, Enzo in my opinion is no way either over or under rated so I feel like they’re all talking waffle

@sholaaguns2336 10 ай бұрын

Lord this is great….Zac’s point scoring is incredibly questionable though 😂

@isakibrahim8316 10 ай бұрын

Regarding the u21 tournament question only one of the 3 players lit up the CL in terms of G/A but also recognition (clapped by madrid fans at the Bernabeu) Mudryk disrespect is sickening just because he arrived in January mind you to a subpar chelsea side that was in shambles and disarray

@isakibrahim8316 10 ай бұрын

tweeted this before finishing the segment, Dougie you cooked🫡

@liamparkes9 10 ай бұрын

Team talk is undefeated, I love that they are getting all of the FD and EFD on it! Cant wait to Hamil back around the table having to justify his wild claims😂

@joerealdiaz7694 10 ай бұрын

just had to mark sam's work as an example at MAMA youth, really small world! had no idea he started off here

@FattyThinPhoton 10 ай бұрын

Bruh Foden had like 3 injuries and his appendix out last season of course he wasn't a starter the whole time, and btw his per 90 stats are FAR higher than Saka's

@capsloccc4606 10 ай бұрын

Zac’s judgement of arguments is based solely on vibes lol

@iazan 10 ай бұрын

I think with the U21 discussion both Henry and the other three were right, tbh. Henry based his argument on what a player has been over a couple of seasons and the trio based their argument on what a player could be in a couple of seasons. And as a Gunner myself, I don't expect ESR to be a superstar. But at the same time, Cherki wouldn't be the first young attacker from Ligue 1 that is set up to be a superstar after one season and floped/had a massive decline two seasons after, i.e. Dembele and Pepe.

@ajmolabedin5739 10 ай бұрын

Liverpool are reportedly interested in signing PSG midfielder Marco Verratti

@mythix5906 8 ай бұрын

Saying Saka over Foden is a bit harsh since i think Foden actually has a much higher skill ceiling than Saka. Pep has said over and over that he loves Phil and that the reason he is not getting a lot of minutes is because he is to jumpy (lack of a better term) with the ball, he always wanted to attack and never really wants to slow the ball down, something Pep HAS to have in his team. That and he loses possession to easily because of him trying to go forward all the time, Pep has said he sees him as a mid-fielder in the future but he has to get more expirience and knowladge of the position. What we have seen from Foden the small glimpeses of what he can become in the mid-field role is something even better than Bellingham, Foden a guy that is very quick, really good close dribble, great flair to beat players and vision to pick a pass to decide if he should get it to his feet or ahead, these are all things we have seen from Foden and if he can put it all together (Pep is hoping) he can easily become one of the best mid-fielders of all time, only problem with it is he needs to use all of it at once, showing glimpeses is simply not enough. Now Saka does not have the skill ceiling Foden has, he is a great player but Foden can go down as one of the best of all time

@jonix1974 10 ай бұрын

So Dougie says don't judge Mudryk on past 6 months but then precedes to talk about Cherki having lit up this Lyon side for 6 months.

@smurfxvi 10 ай бұрын

What’s happened to fd podcast?????

@dokgohyuk3753 10 ай бұрын

The smith row disrespect is crazy, and thats coming from a Chelsea fan

@anotherguy3082 10 ай бұрын

Saying someone who has barely kicked a ball, is not at hot of a prospect as Rayan Cherki, is not disrespect.

@dokgohyuk3753 10 ай бұрын

@@anotherguy3082 barely kicked a ball? You must of barely started watching futbol this year then

@danielwestman6728 10 ай бұрын

What’s the most heated debate ye have had?

@ichigopimp97 10 ай бұрын

baldy wasnt giving a single valid answer as to why enzo is overrated lol. dude was just being stubborn like a brat lol. 120 mill for a player thats 21, already elite and can only get better, and its over 8 years lmaooo

@j_mungal1124 10 ай бұрын

Y’all really hard on Mudryk, for Chelsea it’s been rough but for Ukraine?? He was amazing

@rory4016 10 ай бұрын

agree with Henry regarding Zidane, think he had incredible moments but not as consistent as other great midfielders

@adamisgone 10 ай бұрын

Dougie is an exceptional presenter but a horrendous debater. Constantly harps on and gets too impassioned about irrelevant points. Hard to listen to him debate but love him otherwise

@ChristofEightyEight 10 ай бұрын

McCubbs was on fire, Dougie had a howler...

@dtaafe2857 10 ай бұрын

Maybe sit someone between Dougie and Pat on the next episode.

@aaron1730 10 ай бұрын

Respect VVD please I find it disrespectful. No CB will EVER touch his peak that’s why people call him the greatest. Sure Terry and Ferdinand for longevity and consistency but they would never touch Van dijks peak level. Plus they didn’t have social media scrutinising every little move he makes micro analysing him for normal things. Last season was a drop of but people forgetting his 21/22 season after his ACL where we were so close to a quadruple? Poor from Dougie and Henry and Mcubbin.

@MakinaMakinaMakina 10 ай бұрын

I’m with Dougie (for a change 🤣) on the Mudryk argument, I think Smith-Rowe has a much lower ceiling than Mudryk

@davidholiday2600 10 ай бұрын

Crazy to give mount the benefit of the doubt with playing on a bad chelsea team and not mudryk

@tomlever1494 10 ай бұрын

Agenda because Mount is a PR sweetheart and Mudryk comes across as a big arrogant. Tbh I give both the benefit of the doubt and many other Chelsea players after hearing what was going on inside the club last season. Unsupervised gym sessions where players had no workout plans and just winged it, a squad so big that we couldn’t divide playing time fairly so players got fed up and a toxic environment was created and couldn’t even all fit in a dressing room. Football is a fickle reactionary sport.