Your Typical Corvette Driver at a Track Day [Subaru BRZ POV @ Pocono Raceway]

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Жыл бұрын

Been to plenty SCCA Track Night in America events and never experienced a (non novice) driver completely disregard the rules that we went over in the drivers' meeting. DON'T BE THAT GUY.
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@stantons27 Жыл бұрын

Maybe he’d stand a chance in the corners if he had as many anime stickers

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

LMAO this is my fav comment

@landorseasprint Жыл бұрын

@@dadhats are those stickers or is that a wrap, cause I AM INSPIRED

@chadc1017 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@chadc1017 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering if the staff could next time pass out tissues for Subbie boy🤣🤣

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

@@landorseasprint previous owner did it but if I remember correctly he told me it was hydrodipped (whatever that is)

@Momo_8k Жыл бұрын

“I took my C8 to the track. These rice rockets couldn’t keep up with me”

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@yummyhershey5902 Жыл бұрын

It's frustrating that this is 100% EXACTLY what that guy was thinking.

@pookachu64 Жыл бұрын

Well, that’s half right

@Momo_8k Жыл бұрын

@William Arrington yes, I do. my comment was sarcastic.

@davidrewerts9311 Жыл бұрын

@William Arrington it's in quotation marks. He is making a joke about the corvette driver in the video. 😂

@adamwright3874 Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad someone found your video and shared it with me. I was the event lead for that event. The coach in the video did speak with him and was promised that he would behave better. I spoke with him as he went out for his last session and was again reassured that he would behave better. After he did not behave better, and he gave us attitude for that, he was asked to leave. He has been marked in our system for all event leads to know what sort of behavior to expect and to make appropriate decisions about if he will be running with them or not. I can assure you that he will never run at an event where I am the lead. The same can be said for the usual lead at Pocono. There has been a shift in participant behavior at Pocono this year that we are working to get ahead of. We don't know who is encouraging disrespectful people to come to our events, but we are weeding them out as quickly as we can. If anyone sees an issue at an event that I am at, please bring it directly to my attention so I can address it immediately.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

appreciate you guys taking action!

@FL50ssp Жыл бұрын

Question for you Adam Wright... who signed off on this guy for intermediate? No way does he belong in anything but beginner, and I am being kind, and definitely needs an instructor in the car with him. For all the Corvette haters, this is not typical behavior, at least not in my experience anyway.

@tsslaporte Жыл бұрын

100% correct action, my first thing off that session would be talking with the organizers.

@Elmo6855 Жыл бұрын

One pass without a point by, warning. Second time, goodbye. Clueless and reckless doesn't belong at a HSDE.

@ericandrews1661 Жыл бұрын

That's happening everywhere. People are just turning into shit.

@powerrod1657 Ай бұрын

The real crime is the 4ft tall wing on that mustang😂

@user-iu2om5mm6y 17 күн бұрын

Downforce baby

@greapsoho 10 күн бұрын

Hahah i saw that and no front splitter or any other aero. At first I was thinking oh i bet he has a GT3 IMSA setup, then i saw the side 😅

@lafftrakk Жыл бұрын

the corvette is very skilled at driving straight. impressive 🤦‍♂️

@myztklk3v Жыл бұрын

pretty much all they are good for.

@nikmohdyazid Жыл бұрын

🤣

@natanaelonate5193 Жыл бұрын

@@myztklk3v a good driver would be able to handle it, that guy is just ass lol

@XxViciousxX Жыл бұрын

@@myztklk3v Now that's just objectively false Corvettes can corner extremely well but only in the right hands which was defiantly not the guy in the white c8 that's for sure.

@VinRZ Жыл бұрын

@@XxViciousxX agreed, you could tell the guy was not maximizing his car. All over the line, his breaking is pretty messy everywhere. One thing about mid engine car is that, once you trail break enough and point the car's nose at the right direction. The car would just hook and go. However you could see that the c8 corvettes body weight transfer was absolutely shit, car would dip forward and backward. Hence reducing the tires' grip.

@aintnoway686 Жыл бұрын

"You idiots shouldn't be racing on empty highways. Be safe and do it at the track!" The track:

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@chincemagnet Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I thought, maybe he’s trying to do the responsible thing, but ends up just enraging everyone at the track. Tell him to get a Fanatec sim setup and play some Forza Motorsports for a couple thousand hours before he comes back

@daltonbedore8396 Жыл бұрын

@@chincemagnet the narrator says hed already been talked to once already so he's just not listening...

@chincemagnet Жыл бұрын

@@daltonbedore8396 I meant in general, by coming to the track rather than street racing or whatever

@Hinterhof-qx5ql Жыл бұрын

@@chincemagnet I respectfully want to intervene and state that I would rather not have to meet that guy in any Forza Session.

@NBC_NCO Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the people who hurry up and pass you to get in your lane, hit the brakes and then take the exit. When the rearview mirror shows a clear lane right behind me.

@Cheyemos 29 күн бұрын

🎯

@900108Chale 27 күн бұрын

Lol! I was about to write something quite similar.

@pepefrog7456 27 күн бұрын

i do the same thing but i’m flying off the exit at the same speed i passed you. i’m trying to jump the intersection 😈

@NBC_NCO 26 күн бұрын

@pepefrog7456 while eating a bowl of Cheerios, of course.

@OnYourLeft 9 күн бұрын

Had one one of those today. Passed me in a hurry and squeezed into the gap that was closing in front of me due to everyone braking for the upcoming corner, and there was absolutely no one behind me. I guess it's just too embarrassing for them to be last in line.

@alanmeadows4056 11 ай бұрын

love how he rides his brakes leading into the corners from the long straight. and then takes it nice and easy sunny sunday driving style through the corners, and then hammers down on the straights.

@stayve. Жыл бұрын

It’s hilarious to see a new C8 getting absolutely thrashed by a BRZ. Dude needs lessons 😂

@absolutelyfailz4480 Жыл бұрын

At least he isn't a ped0 with little cartoon girls plastered on the dash

@chadc1017 Жыл бұрын

Sorry bud but with the correct driver that C8 would blow it away... Not even close🤣🤣

@MoneyMunday Жыл бұрын

@@chadc1017 Thank you, captain obvious.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

@@MoneyMunday LOL

@MrFister84 Жыл бұрын

@@chadc1017 You're a bit simple huh?

@alfadriver87 Жыл бұрын

But that C8 driver IS in fact a novice driver. He has no idea what a racing line is, and being a C8 he should be MUCH faster in the corners than this. He's just at a really low skill level. I think we could all drive just like him as 16 year olds with provisional licenses. I would present this video to the staff and have him demoted to novice for all future events.

@kickyadick Жыл бұрын

I could be obviously wrong but while an instructor isn’t required, I highly recommend a novice driver to get one. It doesn’t eliminate this type of horrible driving automatically but it puts a set of eyes in the car and something could be done right there and then.

@JunkRacecars Жыл бұрын

@@kickyadick This was a Track Night in America event. No instructors or passengers allowed unfortunately. These are generally way cheaper than HPDE's and the skill level varies wildly.

@googleleavemynamealone9145 Жыл бұрын

If I was presented this video I would honestly demote the OP. He is flooring it in any corner to get as close as possible to the C8's bumper Ignores all point by's even when bending the rule to go around would be the safer choice. and not confuse the C8 guy as to why the driver behind is ignoring hand signals. The BRZ guy is not here to improve his driver skill, this is just a video full of bullying. Track Rats tend to do this and over blow everything like a motorcycle vlogger.

@eliwhite2039 Жыл бұрын

@@googleleavemynamealone9145 are you talking about when the c8 gave him point bys in areas that you cant pass? did you watch the beginning of the video?

@HanLi1984 Жыл бұрын

The skill doesn’t matter to be honest, trackday is for anyone to have fun. It’s the god damn rule and courtesy. He is fast on straight line but any trackday would first make fun example of a GTR: no matter what you drive, if that Miata is faster than you (in corners), slow down on the passing by zone to let them pass - even if you can dump them on that straight line. This is like, the most announced and simple rule a 3 year old can understand. It has nothing to do with skill. They have a really big problem understanding people. I guess they need special treatment in life for their mental disadvantage.

@chrish8487 Жыл бұрын

Wow, as a C6 owner that is just embarrassing to see that C8 driver's behavior and lack of skill. Nice driving with the BRZ, it looks like a blast!

@StarlightLancer01 10 ай бұрын

Man, watching this just makes me want to learn as much about track discipline as possible. Plan to go to one of these sometime.

@Kinuhbud Жыл бұрын

man what a pro... "Straight roads are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers" - Colin McRae

@natanaelonate5193 Жыл бұрын

Dude thats so true! I did thunderhill a year ago and a c7 literally tried passing me mid turn on the inside but he was going too fast and his car just went straight for the dirt and i watched his car catch air 😂 never laughed harder in my life

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

LMAO pain 😭

@jburklol1164 Жыл бұрын

Good ol' Thunderhill. I'd love to go back.

@ronretired282 Жыл бұрын

The important part was the driver was able to walk away from this incident. I'm sure you took the time to educate the driver concerning high speed corners.

@natanaelonate5193 Жыл бұрын

@@ronretired282 everyone was annoyed of that guy he wasnt even coming into the download meetings

@nkryptedexe3961 Жыл бұрын

@@ronretired282 hopefully not.

@jetstream01 Жыл бұрын

You're a great driver man, that was fun to watch. I know the feeling well of being held up by people who are unsafe because they think they don't need to listen to the rules or attend the driver's/rider's meeting.

@cyclesaviorn2700 Жыл бұрын

Nice handling out there 🤟 its a great time watching you handle that little yota/subbie thing like a beast. Im sure you handled the novice like a boss once you could do so safely

@chase082503 Жыл бұрын

god that is insane, dude is getting BULLIED by a brz in a c8, arguably one of the best handling corvettes 💀😂 i give more props to you than i do shame for him.

@rm1626 Жыл бұрын

props to the brz for sure, but that c8 didn't take a single correct line lol...would have caught up in a bicycle on those turns

@04dram04 Жыл бұрын

Thats an ignorant comment. The Corrvette driver is clearly a novice. We all have to start with shit skill, before he get good.

@ckck5258 Жыл бұрын

@@04dram04 hes in an intermediate group though, thats the problem.

@Talynen Жыл бұрын

@@04dram04 the problem is literally that the Corvette driver ended up in an intermediate group -- NOT ONE FOR NOVICES -- where you're supposed to know what you're doing. He shouldn't have been able to get into that group in the first place, and should have been black flagged the second or third time he made any of the numerous mistakes shown in this video.

@elinsierra4997 Жыл бұрын

Fr he looked like he just started driving 🤣 He cut ever turn so badly he had no speed but on that straight

@franzkoviakalak6981 Жыл бұрын

Man he knows how to step on a pedal really well.

@mro4ts457 Жыл бұрын

He could learn a bit more about the big wheel thingy that he’s supposed to use to turn too*

@markw9512 Жыл бұрын

The go pedal, yes…the stop pedal, not so much….

@brettwanderson 9 ай бұрын

Seems like he's just there for the straights. He should just go hit the drag strip next time.

@skaterboy708 2 ай бұрын

That all they know okay!!! Trail breaking.. Whats that. Car balance, who cares.

@user-tr6fw8yo2t Ай бұрын

Go pedal make go good. 🙃

@DillandShaj Жыл бұрын

I take my FRS to the track whenever I can and on open lapping days you get these guys in McLaren's and Lamborghinis who are untouchable on the straights but you're stuck behind them in the corners. And usually it's people that drive those cars who don't pay attention to point bys on straights and it's them who try and overtake on an apex and almost cause crashes.

@MH-dy8it Жыл бұрын

I love seeing the point bys he tries to give 🤣. It's like one finger inching out of the window is enough. I'm sorry you had to try passing him while on line with him being off line, that would scare me especially if he's not handling the slower parts well. Great vid!

@GRossney3 Жыл бұрын

You need to push the staff to have him removed from the event. It's simply unsafe for all the other drivers and he is obviously not skilled enough to be in your run group. You may also want to express to the SCCA organizer that you and your friends will have to consider if TNIA is the right events for your to attend in the future.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

I know they at least talked to him before the next session but pretty sure they still let him run 🤦‍♂️

@alansilverstein2676 Жыл бұрын

He just needs instruction. Bump him down to novice, give him an instructor and teach him. He knew to give the brz a point. That shows some recognition of the circumstance. Just kicking people out because he doesn’t understand doesn’t help. He’ll just sign up for another organization’s event.

@jonathonhollahan308 Жыл бұрын

@@dadhats I was doing work/run at this event (dude in the blue shirt in the pits) and he was black flagged early on in the 3rd session and did not go back out.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

@@jonathonhollahan308 well that's a relief! glad they did something about him!

@NowUC8 Жыл бұрын

@@alansilverstein2676 Great idea, but TNiA does not offer instructors, and pricing reflects that. He definitely needs some driver education.

@93455Driver Жыл бұрын

Imagine if the C8 came in manual, this driver could have been in even more trouble :/

@SI0AX Жыл бұрын

He would have been lugging the engine lol. Maybe even lock up the tires from jamming the car down a gear and jerking off the clutch in the middle of a turn.

@JV8901 Жыл бұрын

I dont think he’d drive it.

@ShaiyanHossain Жыл бұрын

this is a good business case for making it manual

@cyberspectre8675 Жыл бұрын

@@ShaiyanHossain 10000% accurate. If it was manual, this guy wouldn't have made it out of the parking lot.

@ihateeverything3972 Жыл бұрын

Steer with the knees.

@brabham9925 Жыл бұрын

Love the Mustang with the big wing. He says "Oh my, another corner!"

@TheRealKillerTomato Жыл бұрын

Look at the bright side. The times when you were trying to build a gap on the C8 you were driving amazingly with some serious concentration and motivation.

@muffin4600 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel like half the time Porsches and corvettes at track days are driven by older dudes who finally managed to buy their dream car, and are too worried about crashing their baby to push it in the corners (which is fine, I'd be cautious too.) But when someone with one of these cars shows up and has the know-how and willingness to push the car to its limits, they can be very fast.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

yea man that's def true! but at least do it in novice class where everyone is kind of putting around the track 🤷‍♂️

@jasmy-canada Жыл бұрын

There is a difference between pushing the car at the limits and just taking bad lines. He should have been in the novice class.

@scsmith4604 Жыл бұрын

@@jasmy-canada And driving a car with less horsepower so he can learn in that class.

@Slowcarfastbeans Жыл бұрын

I would caution to not stray too far from the context of the event under discussion. It’s a HPDE and the metric is not lap times or how much risk a person takes. Faster lap times are primarily an output of proper technique and experience, and less so risk taken. For HPDE’s, the metrics are closer to amount of event protocol and technique information absorbed, demonstrating execution consistency, predictability, and hopefully exhibiting progression in those metrics by end of event.

@AarenPho Жыл бұрын

Yesss thisss!! I’m the youngest in the crowd of Vette owners and I’m just so surprised by how much the older dudes try to bully their way into turns when they can’t even properly link them!

@aab350z Жыл бұрын

That old dude is having the time of his life. Ignorance is bliss.

@antonio8055 Жыл бұрын

just bought a mt gr86 and this gets me so excited for corners! fantastic driving dude!!

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

hell yea man welcome to the club 🤝🤝

@bryang9601 19 күн бұрын

Having completed my first HPDE last week in a C5 Z06, and being an old man too, that C8 driver was not instructed properly, or ignored instructions, a C8 driving this way puts everyone at risk in the track. I had 4 instructors ride with me during the four 20 minute sessions and it was great…I let everyone close to me by (I let off the accelerator and signaled them by) and gave them space too, so I would NOT ride them on the straights. The last session was with the Novice class (I don’t know why I was with the intermediate before) and I showed the slower drivers respect as well and only passed them in the dedicated passing area, and I didn’t ride their tails. Super fun HPDE and autocross too! Both need smooth inputs of all the instruments. ❤❤❤

@saiyan2525 Жыл бұрын

These people need to build their cornering skills first in autocross. Everyone can go fast in a straight line with a fast car.

@eddieyakin5528 Жыл бұрын

Auto cross or get put in a lower group or even denied track time… I’m all for letting everyone drive on the track but if they are an active danger or nuisance to everyone else it’s simply not fair

@MrFister84 Жыл бұрын

Anyone can go fast in a POS too.

@kevinm.n.5158 Жыл бұрын

He must feel so badass squishing his foot down and gripping the wheel, probably makes a "jazz" face and feels like a real big man mashing a pedal!

@itsjamilagain Жыл бұрын

The C8 is stupid easy to drive, which is what makes this embarrassing.

@BERGERJeah Жыл бұрын

I going to actually disagree here, autocross can teach you bad habits from a road course perspective. What this guy needs is a lead a follow session, plus a full track day in a bone stock Miata or BRZ/ 86. Slow RWD cars make you faster.

@branonguiles Жыл бұрын

That is some serious driving skill my man. You get that BRZ moooving around them corners

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

ty sir appreciate it 🤙

@kevindepew5029 27 күн бұрын

Very nice driving! As a Corvette owner myself (C6), please don't let this individual's actions speak for the rest of us.

@ISpinUWin 5 ай бұрын

I’ve posted a lot of examples like this too. It is sooo annoying. Another one is when you get a point to pass and they don’t let off the gas so you can get by. The often get mad because they don’t think you are trying. Well just because my car has less HP doesn’t mean I am not lapping the track faster. You know fast Miata drivers must live this nightmare often. Anyway after a lap I usually go into hot pit, report them, then when I am back on track I’m far enough away from them. But - sometimes I catch back up and have to do it all again. Anyway I like posting ooops that I witness or participate in. It is entertaining (when no damage) and often can be viewed by others as learning examples of what not to do. Keep safe out there!

@SkittyDoogle Жыл бұрын

I took my CR-Z that was bone stock at the time (save for suspension, larger wheels and tires) on Brainerd International Raceway on a day with Corvettes. Mine was by far the slowest car there. No one disobeyed any rules, but I ended up reeling in the one Charger Hellcat multiple times. He would fly down the straights but in the corners I began catching up after several laps! I gave him a bit of shit about it since I had 1/6th the power he had. 😂

@angelgjr1999 Жыл бұрын

Hellcats feel like boats in the corners.

@Lightdasher360 Жыл бұрын

Go team CR-Z!! :D

@30hours51 Жыл бұрын

Hellcats are like SUVs

@henrystephens1683 Жыл бұрын

Aye I used to live like 5 mins from BIR

@Arrowtone 11 ай бұрын

Straights are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers.

@Slowcarfastbeans Жыл бұрын

This happens quite a bit with people who think the car and straight line speed is everything. Had a “1300hp” vehicle not give a point by for several laps consecutively and when they finally did, it was on a no pass zone. They will also not let off after they give the point by for a clean, safe pass…as directed in novice class protocol. Fekking idiots need to listen in the drivers meetings and I’d like to see quicker enforcement by corner stations in the novice class.

@mro4ts457 Жыл бұрын

Can the straight line speed guys stay on the drag strip, please? Don’t understand why they want to annoy everyone else on a road-track day if they don’t care about turning….

@tylerrandolph6193 Жыл бұрын

I had an FRS, they are absolute amazing track day cars! Had a few situations like this with a viper and a Corvette myself.

@Veyronp87 8 ай бұрын

bro was out for a leisurely cruise in the corners and floors it on the straights lol....btw your BRZ is a monster in the corners, insane speed! great driving

@mrdave777 Жыл бұрын

I’m not a racer. But I concluded that many Corvette owners have no clue to track a car properly. But on straight aways they accelerate because that’s all they know what to do?

@Dai_R Жыл бұрын

Lmao typical corvette HPDE driver. Fast on the straights but slow in the curves. But all jokes aside you guys should have tried to get him removed from future events. Passing with no point by, not letting off the throttle when pointing and giving point bys in the corners in incredibly dangerous to you and everyone else on track. It's amazing how he even made it to the intermediate group considering everything he did wrong is taught in the instructed classes and drivers meetings. I had a semi-similar situation with a BMW 5 series who wouldn't let up when pointing by and giving super late point-bys before the corner. Almost ended up slamming into the side of them.

@eddieyakin5528 Жыл бұрын

It’s just obvious that they think they are above the rules so they don’t care to listen to them.

@Deemo13_ Жыл бұрын

At least in the TNIA's that I've done, you pick the group that you want, so C8 probably chose Intermediate for himself.

@Dai_R Жыл бұрын

@@Deemo13_ Yea that makes a lot of sense. Most of the HPDE's I do have an instructed group for beginners you have to take and then you advance into the Intermediate group.

@davidleonard2074 Жыл бұрын

Typical comment from a person who knows nothing about what an HPDE is all about. I guess you were the best driver ever when you started driving LMFAO.

@kevinduquette969 Жыл бұрын

Great driving!! Love my brz.

@spacetrucker2196 Жыл бұрын

I like the way you drive that car. I feel like it’s just on the edge all the time.

@michaeljohn1160 Жыл бұрын

Honestly waving where he wasnt supposed to be waving was super dangerous. On turns!! you need both hands on the wheel. You think this is frustrating, race in WRL! No body follows any rules. I quit because it was suicidal. I have a track 2018 brz and 2022 gr86. Straight line we’ll never win, but corners, we’ll eat those all day.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

yea probably wasn't my best idea oops. I was already going relatively slow compared to my normal hot laps but still I see your point!

@braisedtoast9002 Жыл бұрын

Both of those are awful value for performance.

@CaptainFordo21 Жыл бұрын

@@braisedtoast9002 what would you recommend?

@braisedtoast9002 Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainFordo21 a manual 650i. They've depreciated massively and are a good way to get a rwd v8 on the cheap with a not god awful interior. If you just want a light weight car to mod for track days on the cheap miata is always the answer. No, your 3200lb gr86 is not light. Yes a turbo craigslist miata will be cheaper and more fun.

@4bidn1 Жыл бұрын

@@braisedtoast9002 Did you miss the part where OP said he has a "track" brz and *also* a '22 gr86 implying the '22 gt86 is a daily/commuter car? I'd rather daily the gr86 than a miata any day, and the older brz's are now way more accessible in most countries as a track car than miatas are. Here in Australia you can't get a miata from any generation for less than $20k, even a rolling mx5 shell is $15k+. Whereas you can find boosted/already track spec 2018 BRZ's for a similar price.

@ChristianHudnell Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear about your experience! I can see understand your frustration. Not all of us corvette track guys are like that. I drive a manual C7Zz Keep up the awesome content! Would love to track anytime and meet new friends and enthusiasts

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

no worries dude ik there's plenty of vette owners that drive hard! title was meant to poke a little fun that's all 🤝

@nabushdinosaure Жыл бұрын

I agree. Lots of very good and fast Corvette drivers out there. And vettes are extremely fast in corners with right setups. Faster than BRZ for sure...

@Chris13FIST Жыл бұрын

yea it's kinda odd that BRZ guy is talking shit about corvettes lol. BRZ is a car that people hang out at gas stations with

@XsaviXander Ай бұрын

@@Chris13FIST You can't even take corners, hush. XD The only thing you can do is go in a straight line.

@JosephSmith72 Ай бұрын

Damn brother, you drive like 🔥. Good vid.

@user-zg8ey4zn4p 26 күн бұрын

The sound of EL headers are definitely starting to grow on me.

@davechangauto Жыл бұрын

That's frustrating as hell and I can definitely relate My last HPDE trackday @ CMP, had a similar issue with a GT4 acting like that (also struggled to keep up with my 13' FRS that was CSG tuned @ 93). Fortunately the stewards/instructors had a talk with him and his stunt ended. Props to you and your buddy on having to deal with this bs

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

it's always the porsches and corvettes loool

@SI0AX Жыл бұрын

@@dadhats Makes me want to have a car with higher HP so it makes it as hard as possible to have the straight liners pass me in the straights. Could you run this same event if you turbo charged your FRS or would that prevent you from racing this event/class due to power/weight ratio being too high or something?

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

@@SI0AX yep you could! this is just an hpde event not a race, so no classes/class restrictions or anything like that

@wayward03 Жыл бұрын

This is the track version of what people do to you if you drive a minivan on a road trip. Can't stand being behind you yet won't actually drive that fast so they pass and then slow down all the time.

@SI0AX Жыл бұрын

@@dadhats Good to know! You know what, I think a cheap nitrous kit could suffice. Only use the nitrous when the old man tries to pass on the straight then just drive without it for the turns. That way it will last enough for the event, lol.

@Chase40c Жыл бұрын

A perfect opportunity for someone to visit novice and really learn with an instructor. I ran inter a couple times so I could drive with a few buddies who were newer to track driving a have them follow me a couple laps here and there. Unfortunately you get people who think they can just jump into inter with no actual experience and it makes it dangerous for others all too often, and funny enough, one of those people were my own pals at one point almost causing me to have a near death experience at PBIR.

@jasonbrumfield978 Жыл бұрын

Dude, been there. All the confidence on those straights

@chuckcribbs3398 Жыл бұрын

You seem to be the only one that knows what an apex is. And you’re a very good driver. 👍🏻

@christophercronin2023 Жыл бұрын

lmao we had the same problem at our track night, but instead of an old man in a corvette it was a young woman in an M5. She would hold up traffic all the way through the course letting 10 cars pile behind her and then BLAST IT on the long straight to 160mph leaving all of us behind . . . right up until turn 1 lol. She did it in two sessions and got called out each time. I dont think she went out for a third stint. Happy to see you enjoying that BRZ in its natural element. I miss mine. Im in a 20 WRX now and havent gone to a track event yet since my local track was sold this year for warehouse space.

@tyleranderson8634 Жыл бұрын

Pbir?

@christophercronin2023 Жыл бұрын

@@tyleranderson8634 yea =(

@tyleranderson8634 Жыл бұрын

@@christophercronin2023 yea man it sucks bro used to go all the time

@alpe6228 Жыл бұрын

those brz are slow on straight lines because they dont have much power but they handle like they are on rails,great car man!

@fders938 Жыл бұрын

I could listen to your car's exhaust all day

@kingvega666 Жыл бұрын

Love the 86 platform. Most fun vehicle ive ever owned. Not fast in straight but so fast in corners it doesnt matter :)

@MattO109 Жыл бұрын

No one in this vid besides the POV driver knew how to drive, take apexes or communicate intentions without waving their hands around out the window.

@kingboo7131997 Жыл бұрын

Perfect example of how money can't buy skill! That driver couldn't even keep up with 490 horsepower!

@Dave-dh7rt Жыл бұрын

@John Smith wrong comment? Looks like you meant to reply to the comment above this one

@peteramadio1854 Жыл бұрын

tire screeching in corners sounds wonderful

@Pygmyz06 3 ай бұрын

Excellent video bro

@ElQuesoGuapo Жыл бұрын

My opinion is that you might be in the wrong run group. It's time for you to ask for a checkride so that you can be promoted. Also, don't let other drivers get you angry. Take a cooldown lap, or roll through hot pit to get away from them, then resume hooning. The only way that a bad driver can ruin your track day is if you let them.

@MichaelTeator Жыл бұрын

This is good advice. The Corvette may be in the wrong but if the op is that bent out of shape he needs to take a breather. You need a level head to be promoted as well. Pulling into the pit was a good choice, but chill a bit.

@ronretired282 Жыл бұрын

Correct! Roll through the hot pit.

@chickenfishhybrid44 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, acting like the C8 is such a risk but pushing his car hard as shit to stay up his ass. If it's really a safety concern back off and chill out

@ronandlolita7322 Жыл бұрын

I really like your content, keep posting! Also if you ever have the desire to, it'd be awesome to see a build video detailing your 86. Keep up the good content.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

thanks man I really appreciate that! I could do that but there's not too much to it. I do have the mods listed in the description if you're interested

@dangoesracing Жыл бұрын

Grinds my gears when this happens. Had one wet track day following a Chevy truck in my very low HP Civic. Spent 4 laps behind him. He’s actively cutting me off and not letting me pass, but takes off on the straight because he has more power. I backed off for 1/2 a lap to get some distance and still caught up to him before T2. He finally pits and next lap I’m up over 9 seconds a lap. Told the staff about it. Next thing I see he ducks down next to my car in the pits and lets down one of my tyres. Absolute piece of work

@vorticosecomb Жыл бұрын

Good driving my man. Car sounds good too

@ZCFHUAfhnvjf Жыл бұрын

I love the engine sound! the intake somehow sounds just like a 4age. absolute music to my ears

@4bidn1 Жыл бұрын

Ahhh I knew I recognised the notes that thing was putting out!

@mescko 11 ай бұрын

My MR2 S/C appreciates that.

@trentel Жыл бұрын

The time difference after you passed was funny. Good driving man 🤙🏽

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

right! it was like a good 10 sec difference like wut....

@skylancer-zer0205 Жыл бұрын

legit like racing against Need for Speed AI on easy mode lmao

@mattrohr1266 Ай бұрын

Your typical subaru driver is a moving apex from this Corvette Driver.

@SolamenteVees Жыл бұрын

I did a track day in 1996 at Willow Springs, on the big track. I was riding my Suzuki Bandit 400. Our instructor passed me on the outside of the Rabbit’s Ear on an Ascot 500.

@samlyles8248 Жыл бұрын

Gotta love those guys with the super powerful whips that floor it on the straights and park in the corners. I encounter this a lot at motorcycle track days.

@ShinyBlackRims Жыл бұрын

That C8 was driven really slow. You're a good driver especially with a manual. Wish I could race that guy with my manual C7.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

thanks man! wouldn't be much of a race I'm sure 😂

@johnauvin 3 ай бұрын

Intersting. Good driving, Subaru 👌

@kickblake 25 күн бұрын

Intermediate run groups in both bikes and cars are always the most chaotic. The disparity in performance and talent is always the largest.

@clearwaterms Жыл бұрын

that turn onto the straight (timestamp 2:33) looks scary, heavy braking zone, pavement transition and a high speed turn with no runoff... I have to imagine that 2:36 was a pucker moment.

@WreckChris Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@treydrake2299 Жыл бұрын

You handled that very well. I can agree it's incredibly infuriating when your considerably faster than other drivers but straights there quicker and stewards don't do anything about them sometimes. Happens a lot at my track cause if they have money it's a whatever thing for the organizers/stewards. Meanwhile I can bully brand new M cars and Corvettes in my Focus SVT and they give me shit cause I'm "putting too much pressure on other drivers" then let me pass.

@Fielder5757 Жыл бұрын

Its crazy how many rules they have on car track days, on bike track days it's pretty much a free for all. Overtake on either side, overtake on bends. Just no wheelies and try not to crash.

@UnderTheIceburg 11 ай бұрын

Feels like there's always at least one at any given track day. Even in the Advanced class, there's always someone who thought they should be there because they have a fast car, not because they actually know how to drive it quickly. But because I've shifted focus from getting the fastest laptimes to finding faster drivers to follow, I'm a lot less bothered by it than I used to be. If it's a problem, just give them space and pull through the pits then go back out to create some separation.

@AarenPho Жыл бұрын

Honestly I’m a newb C6 Z06 owner and super young so I just let most kids pass me since I’m still learning and this guy gives us a bad name. I don’t even push my Vette to redline cause fear of valve drop lol! 😭

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

hey nothing wrong w that!

@wayward03 Жыл бұрын

It's fine to go slow ,just be smart and courteous about it. I'm not fast either

@ronretired282 Жыл бұрын

You have to start somewhere. The C6 is a nice track car. Welcome to future racing events.

@ege5804 Жыл бұрын

Dude your manners.. Seriously i envy your patience and in this case, your skills. He got his ass handled to him by a BRZ.

@MichaelRoma91 Жыл бұрын

Your brz sounds amazing from inside

@lindltailor Жыл бұрын

hot heads like you two makes me loathe track days

@flaggrad Жыл бұрын

I’m about to do my first hpde in a month, I am simply floored at the lines taken by the big wing mustang and the c8. I honestly think all the c8 guy cares about is telling his buddies how fast he went on the straight.

@spdcrzy Жыл бұрын

These older guys have zero neck strength. They go any more than 30mph through a corner and they'll pop a fucking vein, forget crashing their baby.

@solidsnake7167 27 күн бұрын

Wanna know why some talk about “old” people driving vettes? Because just like any other car that’s infinitely better than a piece of crap feminine looking BRZ - people 40 and up are the morherf’ers that can afford it. Really not hard to understand. You don’t see jit kids driving 911’s unless it’s some athlete or some Saudi dip shi born into billions. So what do young people that have all of 872.00 dollars in their bank account do? They hate, project.

@tony-does-stuff 29 күн бұрын

Ah, typical inters shenanigans. C8 was probably like "bro, where's my bump?"

@DavidVanmeterDutch Жыл бұрын

Nice driving man! I am not a racer or anything but braking and lines looked good. Just like sim racing, there are always those people that don’t care and ruin things for others.

@terrancegriffin1046 Жыл бұрын

It was funny watching how easily he oast you on the straights. I know hes not supposed to but man, got to admit that c8's a beast to be the first iteration of that car!

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

lol very true! they are absolute weapons in the right hands, hopefully one day I'll get the chance to see what I can do with one 🤔

@deadghost50ify Жыл бұрын

For a one trick pony it’s a beast. Clearly the dude who owns that car doesn’t know where he stands. His vette is fast but he’s slow as shit. Buddy over here in the BRZ is fast but his car is “slow” which explains where in all the areas that actually require REAL experience behind the wheel, the vette stayed glaring hard at BRZ tail lights.

@markw9512 Жыл бұрын

@@deadghost50ify hardly a one trick pony when it beats a Carrera S’s Nurburgring time.

@EssenceofPureFlavor 28 күн бұрын

@@deadghost50ifyIt's not a a C3. One trick pony is absurd.

@oogalee Жыл бұрын

1:30 when he gave the point-by but still accelerated, that triggered me

@1ZosoLZ 4 күн бұрын

That corvette driver is me playing a nascar game

@Alniemi Жыл бұрын

excellent driving. really goes to show 80% is driver skill and 20% is the car.

@HighSideHustler81 2 ай бұрын

95% driving skills lolz , I agree tho

@RobertPassmore Жыл бұрын

imo 200-260whp cars are where its at. I had a 240sx/sr20 for a few years, and an rx8 for a few years. More power is *fun* but a properly dialed "entry level" sports car is much more rewarding and every time I watch an onboard camera on a brz it strengthens my belief. I've been looking to get a corvette in next year but the more I think about it I might really need to get a brz instead.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

agreed. I rly wanna kswap mine I think it would be perfect for this car, less weight more power 👌 the new brz/gr86 seems almost perfect at around 210whp

@bfiremitch Жыл бұрын

I took one of my buddies out to his first track day in his new C8. I lined up in front of him in my rx8 and he couldn't catch up the rest of the session. Later though after he got more comfortable he stomped me though lol.

@itsjamilagain Жыл бұрын

I work for Chevrolet and got to drive the C8 around Monticello a couple of weeks ago. The car is an engineering marvel, and the best handling car I've ever driven. BUT. It's too easy to drive. Not very engaging or challenging. I actually much prefer my LT1 C4 6 speed. Much slower, but requires you to actually know what you're doing. Anyone can drive a C8.

@bfiremitch Жыл бұрын

@@itsjamilagain the biggest complaint I've seen with them is that they're soul-less to drive, I bet the z06 is going to fix that though

@itsjamilagain Жыл бұрын

@@bfiremitch I would hope so. I got to see 2 of those in person also, as well as the C8R. The Z06 is actually better on paper than the 911 GT3, at about half the price. It will be almost impossible to get one, unfortunately. I would start buying those C5/6 ZO6s right now.

@FULLTHROTTLEAUTO Жыл бұрын

That driving from the Corvette is extremely dangerous. Another thing I noticed, it seems like you had a few people that might have had powerful cars and didn't know how to drive. Looks like the Mustang also wasn't aware of how to take the racing line. Great driving by you. And talking to the staff/workers letting them know he needs to come off is exactly what needed to be done. Either he should have been moved to beginner with instructor or he needed to be removed from the event. Especially if he was already talked to by someone previous to this.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

thanks! yea something about this track has people driving all over the place. I think there's just a lack of knowledge of this layout in general bc at njmp people drive way better!

@jonoleech7832 Ай бұрын

I love being stuck behind big power cars at track days. I remember being stuck behind a 2017 Audi R8 in a 2010 Golf GTI and thinking something was wrong. Fair play to the supercar drivers who send it though I saw a dude drifting around corners in a Huracan. Legend.

@josephhudson2656 4 ай бұрын

nice driving that brz is a lil track monster lol

@Joshua-gt7pz Жыл бұрын

I will always remember a "too good for you" prick driving a 2012 out-of-the-box getting lapped by a Canadian husband-wife in built 1970s porches. The first scoffed at me, the couple offered me a beer before I made it to their RV.

@neilbradley Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, SCCA Track Fright In America where rungroup is determined by how much horsepower you have. ;-) Reminds me of the one time I went. 225WHP M3 (m3) vs 700+ Hennesy tuned GT-R. Left me in the straights, every corner I was up his tailpipe. He claimed he was slow in the corners because of the "engine tune", and not his crappy line.

@von... Жыл бұрын

To be fair, every 700hp+ car I have driven usually has awful partial throttle behavior. But with time & practice, not to mention somewhat adhering to the racing line, that is mostly able to be overcome.

@neilbradley Жыл бұрын

@@von... The GT-R doesn't (at least that one didn't). In this case the awful partial throttle behavior was the driver. ;-)

@chickenfishhybrid44 Жыл бұрын

Wow such a cool story we all very much believe

@neilbradley Жыл бұрын

@@chickenfishhybrid44 Link below. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edh0ocuL27WvY2w.html

@twistedbdo5755 8 ай бұрын

Tbh stock non power mods on a GTR can be pretty difficult for a new driver because the car is harder to rotate and will understeer a lot. If your at a track that has many turns with a novice driver, I am not surprised. Most r35 owners I know who track their car are typically keeping their power mods stock or fbo. You won't see many built GTR on the track. 700+hp requires new turbos and prob built engine is ideal if your running it on the track. There's a lot of issues with cooling that needs mods for and the stock suspension isn't as great which is where most people dump their money into if their into track from my experience. Not only that if they are a novice driver, most of the community recommends GTR owners to run lower boost on track days to not overheat the car, allowing longer runs as well. Not that much power is needed for noob driver. Without a dct cooler you pretty much can do like 3-4 laps before needing to cool down Also I am very surprised someone will bring their GTR to Hennessey in 2023. They are reputable for lying and I'm sure they are saying 700 to the crank not the wheel. Likely a FBO gtr

@kekke2000 Ай бұрын

Having a light car tip toeing around looks so much more fun than a big chunky million horsepower brick.

@6B8RX 26 күн бұрын

Just because they can buy it doesn't mean they can drive it. There was a guy here who showed up at practice days with an F40, complete with a crew. He'd roar ahead on the front straight (drag strip), but putt around the twisty bits on the back side. Every lap, my buddy would catch back up to him... in an showroom stock Nissan Sentra.

@VinRZ Жыл бұрын

I have a v8 I go fast. If he has the same amount of skill as his car's power, he could have just pulled away. You could tell how incompetent he was in that c8, the body weight transfer was everywhere on the track. He was def not at the car's limit.

@mjon5706 Жыл бұрын

It really just seemed like he stopped driving fast and started commuting lol. I can see a more experienced driver in a lighter car catch up quickly but the 86 driver basically teleported behind the C8.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

oh absolutely! no question the c8 driven by someone competent is a different tier of car. especially on a power track like this

@Shadowboost Жыл бұрын

I've seen grandmas drive faster in the corners than that dude

@mjon5706 Жыл бұрын

@@Shadowboost LOL right? I almost thought like the car broke down or something, nope just driving slow.

@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын

Ask to move into a higher group or put in the days to be allowed. In a point by group with no open passing, this is where these guys will live out the rest of their days. Best to move up and move on, there's at least a few of these chaps on every track weekend. The horsepower vs corner cars are a growing matter to content with in recent years though as 400-500hp has become common and driving skills have.. well... not caught up.

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

getting there! still new to this myself. I'm registered for a bunch of events coming up in inter but might have to see if I can change that

@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын

@@dadhats book an instructor. They'll pass you up into the upper groups soon with ur driving if you maintain awareness

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel I'm running with Track Night in America so doesn't quite work that way, the groups are self assigned with no in car instructors. basically just need to register for advanced from now on and see how it goes 🤷‍♂

@thorvelasco1467 Жыл бұрын

I knew you'd catch him like I catch 1000RRs with an R3. Drive your drive, be safe, teach others when you can.

@boehning Ай бұрын

I had a C8 to the exact same thing to me at Pocono, complete with the point-bys. Organizers suggested I just pit to get him off my pace so I could enjoy the rest of the session.

@MUQR Жыл бұрын

Props to the vette owner for owning the best performance car for the price. He may not be the best driver but he will learn with more practice

@dadhats Жыл бұрын

agreed, love c8s! fingers crossed he takes the time to find an instructor 👌

@Andrew_460 Жыл бұрын

Best performance car for the price lol

@lorddoosworth8175 Жыл бұрын

@@Andrew_460 I mean it does have a faster Nurb' time than some cars that cost twice as much so 🤔

@Andrew_460 Жыл бұрын

@@lorddoosworth8175 LOL

@schrodingerscat8621 Жыл бұрын

We all know that guy! Usually I walk over to where he’s parked, ask if his wife is with him, and proceed to tell him have her drive for the rest of the day and he can sit in the passenger seat and hold her purse. They love that…

@1over137 Ай бұрын

Nice driving. The only time I have driven on a track was in my stock GT86. The car only took 1 lap to tell me it had my back, was on my side and wanted me to push it to it's limits. Even with stock "Primacy HPs" the control you had over your scrub angle in the corners, how readily it communicats understeer and how patient it is as long as you patient with it. I did a good job of keeping up with (ironically!) a historic AE86 Corolla that was a full track day build on slicks. Unfortunately both the impreza and the other GT86 went by, but both of them were on Eagle F1 tyres... and the scubby has another 80BHP!

@1over137 Ай бұрын

On assholes both BMW M3s behind me kept taking huge amounts of kerb in the chicane filling my mirrors to intimidate me in places where they cannot pass. If they had any sense the would have run in wide on the outside to hook a straight line out of the chicane to "sling shot me". I just let the pass on the straight. Track "rules" were conscent passing only. The car in front has to "yeild" for the person behind to pass. The only exception would be if you can simply outdrag them down the straight.