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Your War (I'm One Of You): 20 Years Of Joan Of Arc

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Your War (I'm One Of You) chronicles the life and career of Chicago's Tim Kinsella, frontman of ever-shifting band Joan of Arc and '90's pioneers Cap'n Jazz. With appearances from Tim's friends, family, and admirers, we learn what has made his legacy so unique and enduring for more than 20 years.
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@grafvonwalbeck8261
@grafvonwalbeck8261 5 жыл бұрын
fvorite moment is where his mom says: "I actually baked a cake for Fugazi"
@freshyfahadi
@freshyfahadi 3 жыл бұрын
emo crossover
@Aaaaaaaa-ix4rp
@Aaaaaaaa-ix4rp Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was the rest that was about a much better band
@jonathanwhitecup6628
@jonathanwhitecup6628 Жыл бұрын
"I never got my pan back" was such a mom thing to say.
@alanharding7494
@alanharding7494 7 жыл бұрын
I never thought i'd be watching an hour long doc on Tim K - what an age we live in
@MichelJPW
@MichelJPW Жыл бұрын
I know this didn’t bring in a ton of views for you guys, but thank you. The fans deeply appreciate it
@LetsTalkAboutMathRock
@LetsTalkAboutMathRock 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched this a bunch of times. One of the best videos I've watched. Love it in fact.
@coolmoe4230
@coolmoe4230 4 жыл бұрын
Facts brotha
@moneytimesfifteen
@moneytimesfifteen 7 жыл бұрын
When I was a teen I always thought that Joan Of Arc was the type of music that cool college kids listened to, so I got into it in hopes of being cool like those college kids. Now I'm 28 and I still feel that way, even thought I'm past college, and I know that those cool college kids were just in my teen imagination
@drpibisback7680
@drpibisback7680 5 жыл бұрын
It's what cool college kids would listen to if they were actually cool.
@hiroprotagonitis
@hiroprotagonitis 3 жыл бұрын
its not imagination, the college kids who listened to this were actually really cool
@Dsowers777
@Dsowers777 3 жыл бұрын
I saw them when I was in 11th grade in high school. Around 1997. I remember it was literally only two years after cap n jazz and they were already legends then.
@wowwow8617
@wowwow8617 3 жыл бұрын
i like how both in music and in life tim is able to both throw you off and be confusing but also be painstakingly clear at once
@paratext
@paratext 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment.
@mariocataruzolo1637
@mariocataruzolo1637 7 жыл бұрын
crazy that devendra banhart talked about my favorite cap'n jazz lyric , the acoustic version, too
@gurrgurr1023
@gurrgurr1023 7 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT!!! Tim is the Leo Messi of Punk Lyrics and Songwriting.
@gonza0r
@gonza0r 7 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@smokemethhailsatan
@smokemethhailsatan Жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to Make Believe/Joan of Arc/Cap'n Jazz every year, and whenever I'm binging that stuff, I watch this and fall in love with Tim all over again. He's one of those dudes that is so prolific in my life that it feels like I've known him for decades, but I've never met him.
@connorchapman1232
@connorchapman1232 7 жыл бұрын
Man, that was one of the best hours (and 8 minutes) I've ever spent
@Hardbody94
@Hardbody94 7 жыл бұрын
we need more rock documentaries
@gorryman
@gorryman 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe a year ago I was commenting on an upload of "live in Chicago 1999" (with like a couple hundred views) about how it was the most underrated record in my lifetime and getting all kinds of crap for it well, I stand by that statement.
@lazerguidedmelodies
@lazerguidedmelodies 7 жыл бұрын
12:56 thanks for this shot
@sundew4289
@sundew4289 4 жыл бұрын
woww! yess!
@xyouthe
@xyouthe 3 жыл бұрын
i think i found my male role model, this is the man i want to be like in the future. it was crazy to me how much i related to tim once i found out about capn jazz, i absolutely love this human being and to think that he lives in chicago (idk if he still does or if hes still a bartender, if he is im going to see him someday)
@robfisher1
@robfisher1 7 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this documentary to exist for a long long time. Thanks so much to everyone who put in their time to make it. Truly inspiring. Viva La Tim!
@ReisNJake
@ReisNJake 7 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. We need more of this. Esspcially of the Chicago music scene!
@onamaska
@onamaska 7 жыл бұрын
thank you noisey! more of this please!
@nilssonschmillson5395
@nilssonschmillson5395 Жыл бұрын
Victor is one of the greatest guitarists ever. So inspirational to the following generations whether they know it or not. His work in Ghosts and Vodka is insanely forward thinking
@jaythepainter1
@jaythepainter1 8 ай бұрын
Addicts and Drunks......so goddam good.
@tomassierra9535
@tomassierra9535 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even heard this bands, and this documantary is still so inspiring! Thanks!
@duhlike
@duhlike Жыл бұрын
I feel like Owls was the best thing these dudes ever did. Especially the 2001 record. But they have so much music. All so prolific.
@pechondelgado
@pechondelgado 9 ай бұрын
Make Believe albums are very under appreciated. I think that stuff is better than the Owls record.
@peter1088
@peter1088 5 жыл бұрын
This was so beautiful. Thank you.
@Blindside23
@Blindside23 6 жыл бұрын
This is great. I'm a fan of 10+ years of the kinsellas and friends. But I have to say, the guy who's so disillusioned by Tim's capn jazz lyrics for tokyo and ooh do i love you really matters to me in some way, because ever since Tim revealed he was tripping on mushrooms for the first time in his life when he wrote those lyrics, they don't have any sense of literal meaning. But at the same time they have all the meaning, in another context. It's fucked up. I still sing along to capn jazz on rare days that I wanna hear it and its good shit. Just fucking different, being an adult, thinking of the silliness of youth and their motives. Utopian anarchy headspace... its all surreal and again, yet so close to home on some days. I hope anyone who cares enough to read this can make sense of it Lol.
@Dsowers777
@Dsowers777 3 жыл бұрын
Lyrics are arbitrary because we make our own meanings up to everything. Songs aren’t about one thing. They’re about thousands of different things all at once
@jamesdoctor8079
@jamesdoctor8079 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dsowers777 so true
@BromeliadBro
@BromeliadBro 2 жыл бұрын
Well Tim and most of the rest of these dudes still live that life, so not really a “silliness of youth” sort of thing…
@copsarebastards
@copsarebastards Жыл бұрын
yeah I remember hearing that in middle school or junior high when I was straight edge, and straight up crying because it ruined this certain mystique and relatability.
@Dashner100
@Dashner100 7 жыл бұрын
Ian needs to send Tim's mom a pan...
@trevorogden9130
@trevorogden9130 6 жыл бұрын
saw them years ago in Philly. seriously one of the best shows ever.
@paratext
@paratext 5 жыл бұрын
Always love meeting fellow JoA fans from Philly. South Jersey kid here
@facundelgado
@facundelgado 7 жыл бұрын
no puedo dejar de mirar esto. tim es todo lo que esta bien en este mundo
@maddeku0
@maddeku0 6 жыл бұрын
I fucking love cap'n jazz every song
@michaelgraham9774
@michaelgraham9774 4 жыл бұрын
His mom is awesome.
@XViTNg
@XViTNg 2 жыл бұрын
I remember finding cap n Jazz back in the day. Right after they broke up. , and found American football because I loved the drums in Cap N Jazz, and thought Mike played drums for American football. I loved the American football album and then realized Mike played guitar and vocals ha And I remember always liking American footballs album more than Joan of arc or cap n Jazz But never woulda guessed they would become a popular band in the late 2010s ha.
@matthewjohnson3513
@matthewjohnson3513 3 жыл бұрын
Love you Tim
@PlayKeeps-il4fn
@PlayKeeps-il4fn 7 жыл бұрын
Never herd of him but the Doc is very interesting for the mind ... Open you Mind
@SOLOIIguru
@SOLOIIguru 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm watching a Noisey doc and I'm not having guns pointed at me or watching the glorification of drug-use/rampant overspending & excess lifestyle choices. More of this
@angeldiary4564
@angeldiary4564 7 жыл бұрын
sounds racist but ok
@SOLOIIguru
@SOLOIIguru 7 жыл бұрын
angeldiary please explain how my comment was in any way racist, or where I mentioned race, color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion or any other 'ism' that you can think of.
@timmcPherrin
@timmcPherrin 7 жыл бұрын
because what you said sort of suggests that you're a bit ignorant/insensitive about the context of some of the vice drug-related docs. often it explores the issue from the perspective of poor urban communities. so yeah, not directly racist, but it's a little shitty.
@timmcPherrin
@timmcPherrin 7 жыл бұрын
but yeah, it's definitely better than most noisey docs
@angeldiary4564
@angeldiary4564 7 жыл бұрын
yes Timothy thank you. you dont have to be calling people names and sh*t to be racist. racism is often super coded and subtle and this is an example of that
@user-hq9jw8hy3e
@user-hq9jw8hy3e 2 жыл бұрын
Im fucking blown away by this kinsella store story
@onethousandpizzas
@onethousandpizzas 7 жыл бұрын
Please more Noisey like this.
@nikitakaramushka7285
@nikitakaramushka7285 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for making this
@jaythepainter1
@jaythepainter1 8 ай бұрын
My approach to playing & listening to music changed when I found Tim & co. Also wanna add that Victor & Sam"s Ghosts & Vodka instrumental record "Addicts and Drunks" is in my top 10. I love bands that i can get to know or let stay at your apartment on tour.....like Tim's bands. "Punk rock = work ethic" "Get in the Van"
@dr6316
@dr6316 6 жыл бұрын
11;11 Evergreen sighting
@copheart
@copheart 6 жыл бұрын
Living in a plastic bag again
@aaroninky
@aaroninky 7 жыл бұрын
i love tim kinsella.
@hippywolf
@hippywolf 2 жыл бұрын
Tim seems nice.
@SexRaptorize
@SexRaptorize 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@HenricWallmark
@HenricWallmark 11 ай бұрын
Great! I’d like a sequel with song brother’s American football
@itsMrNoble
@itsMrNoble 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Joan of Arc in my hometown about 10 years ago. There was about 50 people there and Tim burned a heckling audience member so hard. I wanted to meet him after the show but knew that I’d probably hug him and for too long and that he’d probably not be wild about that. I also got tears in my eyes at 7:07 when he introduces his grandmother and Bluegrassish starts playing…
@jerbear97
@jerbear97 5 жыл бұрын
28:53 the dog though
@PeterTodorovmbh
@PeterTodorovmbh 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Noisey!
@BrodyYYC
@BrodyYYC 5 жыл бұрын
When I was about 19-20 I worked the night shift at a gas station. It was hard to sleep during the day so I would listen to 'Live in Chicago, 1999' basically every day to fall asleep. I'm still not sick of it. I really really dislike a big amount of his other work but damn I love that album! I also really liked 'A Portable Model Of'.
@cameronleventis7
@cameronleventis7 3 жыл бұрын
I open 4 am at a gas station. For hours in the dark and silent morning, Capnjazz plays out brining a rush of life to the dull and mundane corporate world.
@mustvebeenchaka
@mustvebeenchaka 2 ай бұрын
Amazing,,,
@BromeliadBro
@BromeliadBro 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go JOA!!
@michaelofdooms
@michaelofdooms 5 жыл бұрын
this was perfect. mike seems like the cool lil brah
@demit189
@demit189 Жыл бұрын
goat
@buenopower1
@buenopower1 7 жыл бұрын
pretty interesting take on Joan of Arc and what it means to be part of a 20 year art project that takes directions in every way possible. good job guys
@BOSSOROBOT
@BOSSOROBOT 7 жыл бұрын
GOOSE BUMPS
@TeamStevers
@TeamStevers 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like him and I share a psychological profile.
@bliss9595
@bliss9595 4 жыл бұрын
Charli’s Channel it’s so weird because I feel exactly the same way and there are some many people like that here. Don’t find people like that too often in my day-to-day life unfortunately
@Nicoopicoo
@Nicoopicoo 4 жыл бұрын
Cap'n Jazz is my favorite band
5 жыл бұрын
subtitles please !!!!!!
@MrMrsVegan
@MrMrsVegan 5 жыл бұрын
How I remember pouring through Joan of arc albums digging for a glimmer of cap’n jazz genius... what a tease... the reunion was a dream come true. Time travel. Nothing that wild and great can burn for long, two decades of recovery to relight that torch
@josephworkman9628
@josephworkman9628 7 жыл бұрын
awesome
@OngoingBox
@OngoingBox 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@organizedsportz
@organizedsportz 5 жыл бұрын
1,000th Like - Hell yah!!
@plzineedtogowayrn6353
@plzineedtogowayrn6353 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@JG-ux7of
@JG-ux7of 4 жыл бұрын
Out of all the bands that I loved as a teenager, Cap N Jazz are the ONLY band that I still love as much at 40 as I did at 17. They were children when they wrote, performed and recorded these songs, yet their music was so original and important. The way everyone who was into the so called 2nd wave of Emo never called themselves Emo and never identified as Emo. Tim Kinsella who is to 2nd wave Emo as Muddy Waters is to Chicago Blues says he was never Emo or felt or identified his band as Emo. At the time any band that was straying from the Pop Punk model and doing things that were different and original was being called Emo. Bands that sounded nothing alike were all lumped into the same genre. I feel like it was called Emo because nobody knew what to call it and people have a need to put everything into a box. I remember in the late 90s early 2000s the rumors in Chicago were that Tim was a dick. If you asked for specific stories of him being a dick you never heard one. They wouldn't have situations of him being a dick he just had this reputation amongst his fans. I was standing next to him at a show at the Metro, I think it was Tortoise or The Sea and Cake and Joan of Arc had played earlier. It was 20 years ago or so, I wanted to tell him that I loved his music and thank him for making it. However I didn't because I was afraid he would be a dick. Same when he worked at Jynx and Rainbo. Seeing this video I have a feeling that all these rumors about him being a dick are complete bullshit. They're just lies from journalists who hate that he has the balls to make the music he wants and not give a damn about what they think. Shame on me for believing lies that and not thinking for myself. I could have shaken the hand of my musical hero.
@maddeku0
@maddeku0 6 жыл бұрын
Not nostalgia Im not old enough am from Chicago though, what man said at 31 and half minutes really makes sense to me dammit
@FelipeGila666
@FelipeGila666 7 жыл бұрын
🖤
@Glaiket
@Glaiket 4 жыл бұрын
If someone had told me in 1999 that there would be a documentary about Tim Kinsella and 50k people would watch it, i'd have cried. Thats literally how posthcemo I was.
@paulerxx
@paulerxx 5 жыл бұрын
Do American Football next!
@michaelgraham9774
@michaelgraham9774 3 жыл бұрын
Tim is emo and indie's own Syd Barrett
@philmccrevis2134
@philmccrevis2134 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, a noisey that I can actually kinda relate with..... oh joy.... I can understand the dialect
@georgiechadwick2124
@georgiechadwick2124 4 жыл бұрын
15:12 my favorite song comes on. Man
@dallasboringnews7157
@dallasboringnews7157 4 жыл бұрын
If im not mistaken....joan of arc died at a pretty early age; the age of NINETEEN. So not even Joan of Arc got to see 20 years of Joan of Arc.
@MarcNeilson1
@MarcNeilson1 7 жыл бұрын
Would love if you did a documentary on Mike Kinsella since he's just as influential if not more influential than Tim in my opinion plus this was fucking great
@Jaorta72
@Jaorta72 7 жыл бұрын
Marc Neilson lol wrong.
@Scott_Raynor
@Scott_Raynor 6 жыл бұрын
American football is the greatest band of all time so Tim>>Mike
@BromeliadBro
@BromeliadBro 2 жыл бұрын
Mike sucks
@CtDawG77
@CtDawG77 2 ай бұрын
Trying to find Cap'n Jazz 1990s show history Concert Archive says they only played 7 shows in 1994 and 1995?
@CtDawG77
@CtDawG77 2 ай бұрын
1991 till 1994 I used to see alot of bands play at Studio 158 in Willimantic Connecticut, Did Cap'n Jazz ever play any east coast shows?
@CtDawG77
@CtDawG77 2 ай бұрын
I can't tell if I have met them before of it is just from Dan Black of Landland always sharing stuff about Joan of Arc
@NicotineDaydreams
@NicotineDaydreams 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the name of the song that starts in the beginning of the video??
@wilfcartwright5407
@wilfcartwright5407 7 жыл бұрын
Almond Fountain - Tim Kinsella
@jmaskew2855
@jmaskew2855 6 жыл бұрын
It's also "I'll show you, I'll show you all" off of How Can Anything So Little Be Any More?" EP. but on that version its electric guitar and sounds alot different. but yea same melody
@iwatchvideos1
@iwatchvideos1 4 жыл бұрын
what's the song at 4:27?
@paratext
@paratext 4 жыл бұрын
It's an early Cap'n Jazz demo called Naive.
@fredericozgur7845
@fredericozgur7845 5 жыл бұрын
Jorge Ben @ 42:48
@rgefseds
@rgefseds 3 жыл бұрын
what is that acoustic version of ooh do i love you they play at 23:08 from? thanks
@paratext
@paratext 2 жыл бұрын
It's on Analphabetapolothology's second disc.
@lucasnunes2453
@lucasnunes2453 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the song at 36:13 ?
@paratext
@paratext 4 жыл бұрын
The Hands by JoA
@lucasnunes2453
@lucasnunes2453 4 жыл бұрын
@@paratext ohh thanks a lot man cheers
@timmcPherrin
@timmcPherrin 7 жыл бұрын
i see me at the owl
@wrarmatei
@wrarmatei 6 жыл бұрын
Listened to Joan of Arc a bit, but listened to Cap'n Jazz a lot and still do. Anyone who enjoys Kinsella's voice/music can check out Algernon Cadwallader; definitely influenced by Kinsella's music, but similarities are exaggerated. Singing off-key doesn't belong to anyone. It was trippy to learn about the infamous "Virginia". When Banhart describe's Cap'n's sound being tough and vulnerable at once, I doubt he must mean it in the sense of having the strength of character to show vulnerability in music, which hadn't been a thing in a lot of punk up to that point. Even if a band, like Minor Threat, Black Flag, etc, etc, had a song that related to vulnerability, it was toughened-up, which is pretty childish/cowardly. I always figured punk from the midwest, like Capn' Jazz was a reaction to the rising levels of macho bullshit in punk at the time anyway.
@Scott_Raynor
@Scott_Raynor 6 жыл бұрын
doggo at 28:52
@jackcarino6301
@jackcarino6301 6 жыл бұрын
whats the capn jazz song in the beginning?
@juulsvern9961
@juulsvern9961 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Carino Naive. It was released on the Achtung Chicago Zwei compilation.
@FevuhhHD
@FevuhhHD 7 жыл бұрын
what's the song that starts at 7:50
@paratext
@paratext 5 жыл бұрын
Can't Own A Home off of Tim's solo record Field Recordings of Dreams
@shitttybill
@shitttybill 3 жыл бұрын
can someone ple tell me the song at 42:32
@paratext
@paratext 3 жыл бұрын
It's a section of their film score for the Joan of Arc silent film.
@xXhogarthXx
@xXhogarthXx 6 жыл бұрын
fix your collar, Tim!
@nckoTV
@nckoTV 6 жыл бұрын
What is the song at 39:10
@paratext
@paratext 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Fine Senses (None of Them in Common) off the Live in Chicago, 1999 LP.
@TheThorbirkelund
@TheThorbirkelund 7 жыл бұрын
Like like
@IJNhi
@IJNhi 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the song at 1:06:00 ?
@music6577
@music6577 3 жыл бұрын
please sleep by joan of arc
@IJNhi
@IJNhi 3 жыл бұрын
@@music6577 big thanx
@ben_has_hobbies
@ben_has_hobbies 7 жыл бұрын
Fucking A.
@gymnastjew3000
@gymnastjew3000 5 жыл бұрын
Americ anfootball doc please
@RichBurrell
@RichBurrell 3 жыл бұрын
What track is 48:20 onwards??
@RichBurrell
@RichBurrell 3 жыл бұрын
All good - got it!
@RichBurrell
@RichBurrell 2 жыл бұрын
It’s ‘Questioning Benjamin Franklin’s Ghost’
@beingexemplary06
@beingexemplary06 9 ай бұрын
Thank you man
@wartimemodels
@wartimemodels 4 жыл бұрын
What's the music that starts at 6:40?
@paratext
@paratext 4 жыл бұрын
Stranged that Egg Yolk by JoA. One of the best tracks off their 2017 record.
@wartimemodels
@wartimemodels 4 жыл бұрын
Christoph Harris thanks. Having trouble finding it. Any idea where it is online?
@paratext
@paratext 4 жыл бұрын
@@wartimemodels kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebyAnLGLvsi0m5c.html
@wartimemodels
@wartimemodels 4 жыл бұрын
Christoph Harris thanks!
@aalecmmcgrory930
@aalecmmcgrory930 7 жыл бұрын
song at the end?
@benoneil9627
@benoneil9627 7 жыл бұрын
Joan of Arc - Post Coitus Rock. One of my favorites.
@lukecatizone5328
@lukecatizone5328 7 жыл бұрын
Joan of Arc - Post Coitus Rock
@lermgerm
@lermgerm 7 жыл бұрын
John Galm interview next?
@GaryDIdiot
@GaryDIdiot 6 жыл бұрын
lerm germ I wish, but nobody knows him
@pthfan712
@pthfan712 5 жыл бұрын
Is Tim a teacher now? What was that part in the first few minutes with the dollar bill?
@JG-ux7of
@JG-ux7of 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he teaches creative writing. He is probably a hell of a good teacher. He used to tend bar at Rainbo near Damen and Division. He and John Haggerty from Naked Raygun tended bar there. I remember sitting there drinking and thinking how surreal it was to have my musical heroes serving me drinks. Only in Chicago!
@smithyvip
@smithyvip 6 жыл бұрын
I love Joan Of Arc but when we getting a 20 years of American Football?
@chrisperez3614
@chrisperez3614 3 жыл бұрын
Devendra Banhart cappin he knows he wants those stacks.
@BURNANNATOR
@BURNANNATOR 4 жыл бұрын
What song is at 21:00?
@q-uivs
@q-uivs 3 жыл бұрын
basil's kite
@Fireguy65
@Fireguy65 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Kinsella sort of looks like he'd be Frank Ieros older brother
@finalboyism
@finalboyism 2 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE SO RIGHT OH MY GOD
@charliesalt5260
@charliesalt5260 7 жыл бұрын
Fist comment
@BromeliadBro
@BromeliadBro 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad Riley sobered up…
@SkabCrowley
@SkabCrowley 7 жыл бұрын
Do one about MGMT
@howitusedtobe
@howitusedtobe 3 жыл бұрын
First and foremost let me clear... I have a deep love for these cats.. what I can’t wrap my head around why they and people in general these days can’t get through a single sentence without saying “like uhh, like uhh”. I’m not hating just an observation
@comradesentournjr3696
@comradesentournjr3696 2 жыл бұрын
Cap'n Jazz / Joan of Arc have both been on my list of bands to check out for the last 20+ years. For whatever reason I just gloss over it every single time. Then a couple days ago I randomly decided to finally take the time to get a feel for them. I gotta say, it wasn't anything close to what I expected. I figured they'd at least bear some sort of resemblance to American Football. Although I do love American Football, I was pleased to find out Cap'n Jazz / Joan of Arc sound nothing like them. However.. the level of pretention here is just through the roof. I get that Tim Kinsella is just wired differently than your typical songwriter, in that sense I greatly appreciate his authenticity to himself. But I just fail to see what Cap'n Jazz / Joan of Arc are actually bringing to the table in terms of creativity or innovation. It feels like Tim is happy to forego quality if it means he can be more prolific. The vast majority of the songs I've checked out seem to have a seed of a good idea, but these ideas are rarely given time to blossom and fully bloom. Everything feels halfway done. Rushed. I realize this is going to be a very unpopular comment. But someone needed to say it.
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