Testing a 10kWh UL Certified Energy Storage System ESS from BigBattery.com

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Going Off-Grid and Testing a 10kWh UL Certified Energy Storage System ESS from BigBattery.com! Not only can this system be used as an Off-Grid Solution, it has the capability of being a Grid-Tied System with a Whole Home Battery Backup! Plus its easily expandable with its Stackable Design. Never Lose Power Again!!! #bigbattery #neverlosepower #averagejoe
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@jl9678 4 ай бұрын

Finally a hybrid inverter video that shows it being used as a true hybrid instead of just as an off grid inverter. Please do a vid where you go over the 12k so you can show viewers how the inverter seamlessly pulls from the grid to support the loads

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Thanks! For the most part I am using it "off-grid" but with grid assist. Yeah Ill try and make that happen in one of the next vids FO SHO!💥🤘

@SteveNeighbor 18 күн бұрын

@@AveRage_Joe Looking forward to it. Keep the 💥coming! Also - real-time / dynamic price arbitrage (We have it here in Chiberia -it's not just for California any more!). CS says the Cube Lite was "designed with that in mind."

@awbean5254 4 ай бұрын

GREAT REAL LIFE REAL TIME POWER USAGE PROJECT JOE!

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@paulcurtis5496 4 ай бұрын

I love the UL listings, I think I interpreted - good in all 50 states any day of the week wink wink... I think the 8 x Rhinos are still the way to go for me since I'm burying them in the floor and walls. The rhino form factor is PERFECT for tucking in between floor joists and studs with the proper reinforcements.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

YesSirr good in all over any day of the week! Yeah Id like to see that when you get it all burried!🤯 Would be a cool build!

@johngermain5146 4 ай бұрын

Can't help but comment on how nice this system is

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Those comments are welcomed!💥🤘

@franklinsantiago4353 4 ай бұрын

DAMN!!! That is an awesome battery and inverter, plus your explanation is super SUPER good! Great job!!!

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

I 100% agree. Whats great is you can expand if or when needed cause 1 size system will not fit everyone. Im Extreamly happy with it so far!

@jamesroyal8331 4 ай бұрын

This is so awesome thank you so much for sharing this. As always great content and you are great.

@MrHoolign 4 ай бұрын

Great Vid Joe!

@michaelhicks6121 4 ай бұрын

Excellent Job ! Keep up your great work!

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

Thanks and thanks for watching!

@johnperry5960 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic video. And very detailed

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Thank You and Thanks for watching!💥

@shubinternet 4 ай бұрын

It's important to see the battery powered cats! Thanks! 😂😂😂

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

😁😁🔋🐈‍⬛🔋🐈‍⬛🤘

@wayne8113 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Joe, good test

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Wayne!🤘

@SuperVstech 4 ай бұрын

Keep on trucking!

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

😁🛻🛻

@powerguymark 3 ай бұрын

I think you did a great job with your video. You didn't stray too far. You tried to not ramble (which I'm bad about) you covered most of the essential topics. Recently installed a similar system ( EG4 18k pv) Already had a soft start installed so I can run my 4ton heat pump with a portable generator. It was working fine until I installed the 18k pv. For some reason it didn't want to play nice with the control board on the HVAC. I tried swapping out different soft starts then eg4 sent me a replacement inverter. After I went to the expense of swapping it out it still didn't solve the problem. Supposedly eg4 has employees that are running 5 ton HVAC's with this inverter with no problem. Mine keeps maxing out the rated peak compressor then it would go into self-protection mode shutting it down leaving the internal blower motor still blowing as if the AC was still working with zero cold air blowing into my house. Still not have resolution to the problem but supposedly EG4 is going to contact my HVAC technician to have them bypass the control board entirely. This seems like a strange solution to me since my HVAC was working fine BEFORE I installed the inverter. I'm curious what size HVAC system you have, or if you're having any problems. Mine is a run of the mill carrier system nothing out of the ordinary so it's kind of a mystery why I'm having such trouble. Before I install the inverter running my HVAC with a soft start my inrush current was only about 23 amps. My running amps: about 12. AFTER: the compressor with max out at about 21 amps (the maximum on the name plate is 20) which would send it in to self protection mode and shut off the compressor leaving the exterior fan and the interior blower running as if it was working okay. With the thermostats calling for cool air it would run like that forever and not cool the house. Overall kind of disappointed. In the future I will probably still install individual mini splits and get away from Central are completely but still it should work and it doesn't.

@offgridwanabe 4 ай бұрын

Well this inverter has peaked my interest it is on the upgrade list.

@paul.phillips 4 ай бұрын

Dude, the Growatt is gone! I'd get rid of mine for that Luxpower too though, or the 18kpv, or a couple 6000xp's. I think KZfaq isn't showing your videos in my feed, looks like I missed a few.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Yep, removed the good ole growatt to install this beast! Yeah the off-grid 6000xp's would be a great option too. This is the 18kpv but EG4 throws there logo on it. It seems KZfaq wont show on many others feed as well. 🤷‍♂️

@SolarEngineering 4 ай бұрын

awesome tests

@RJ-cc1fz 4 ай бұрын

Hybrid inverter with Cts on the homes mains so the inverter can supply the main panels loads is awesome! Your inverter can supply its max and at the same time the grid simply supplies any extra power needed

@jl9678 4 ай бұрын

I think this is the future

@RJ-cc1fz 4 ай бұрын

@@jl9678 I have been doing it for 6 years.. almost zero electric bill every month

@jl9678 4 ай бұрын

Nice. I just started and my last bill was 15. Going forward should be zero

@RJ-cc1fz 4 ай бұрын

@@jl9678 I still have to pay a $27 minimum to have their electric hooked up to my house or it would be zero.. good luck to ya

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Yes! It is Awesome with a 12kw inverter!🤯😁

@claudiuminciu 4 ай бұрын

Nice👍👍👍👍

@thedabbler2753 4 ай бұрын

Obligatory *boom* response! Loved all the detail in this one. I have a 5kWh that makes it to about 4am if... well if it's just me at home. Otherwise more like 11pm. Would love to add another 5kWh (or maybe 10kWh after your video).

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

💥💥 Yeah.....I could make the battery last but as soon as the wife gets home EVERYTHING gets turned on lol😆😆😆

@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 3 ай бұрын

Thanks COOP ...

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

Those 3 ... get me every time🤪😆🤘

@jl9678 4 ай бұрын

I'm the nerd who paused the video at all the solar assistant screens and calculated the inverter efficiency based on load, solar pv, and battery power. 21 data points : MAX 97.23%, MIN 89.30%, AVE 93.73%

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

😲🤯😁🤘 We Love Nerds like you! I wouldnt know where to start!

@AdamDeLay07 4 ай бұрын

Very cool! I was just wondering when we were gonna see an update on this system. The hybrid aspect is nice that you can power those extra loads in your main panel if you want to. Still have to find time to mess with that on my system. It's a great feeling though when you can just set up a system and then forget all about it and not have to worry if the lights are gonna go out...

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

I need to get back to videos over here. I miss it! Yes 100% great feeling to know that it all.....just works and it powers everything!😆🤘

@Ojames600 4 ай бұрын

This video proves that you should NEVER connect your range to solar. Range pulls tons of energy 😦. Love this video. Thank you.

@jl9678 4 ай бұрын

With this inverter you can because it will just pull any overage from the grid

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

I plan to do thanksgiving this year all on battery/solar. I actually hope to do a lot moar. I think the main thing is the AC at night during those hot summers. 🤞🤞

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Also Troof!💥

@bobcole3852 4 ай бұрын

Great job Joe. I am installing one 6000xp and hope it will do the same job. We have grid too for backup, and I have the same battery capacity. As soon as I can pour concrete for ground mount I'll be in bidness. Too cold for that now!

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! I think those 6000xp inverters look like a sweet deal! How many panels and KW?

@bobcole3852 3 ай бұрын

I have 10 Solarever 455 panelsand 2 Brightmount racks and still researching extension rails for the extra 2 panels. Right now planning to mount 8 panels and hope that's enuf

@loucinci3922 4 ай бұрын

Here in south Florida, my AC runs 24x7 @ 78-76 F. Every day.

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

😆 In summer....mine runs all the time🤦‍♂️

@carlossantini 4 ай бұрын

Great video as always! What's the input on the chinesse automatic transfer switch? Reliable?

@loucinci3922 4 ай бұрын

So....furnace kicking on is just the electric to run fan, right? Assume you are on gas or oil for heat.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Yeah we have a gas furnace!🤘

@Bowhunters6go8xz6x 4 ай бұрын

Awesome video - I am thinking/wondering that in the summer if it might be best to change settings so the batteries are only used for (backup power/ grid down) and run the house on solar by day and send extra solar onto the grid (net metering) and then pull power from the grid at night to save wear on the batteries from being sucked down every night by the HVAC. Would be interesting though to see a similar video to this one in July or August when it is 95-100F on a sunny day and see how it does with the AC running on and off all day.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Thank You! I am interested in not sending power back. Mainly they dont pay much/only give credit. We can 100% do moar videos in the summer with the AC running during a 24hr period. Daytime wont be the issue but we see!💥🤘

@Bowhunters6go8xz6x 4 ай бұрын

@@AveRage_Joe Ahhhh, i'm a pretty new viewer and didn't know your power company didn't give 1 to 1 on its Net Metering, some say Net Metering will go away completely some day so batteries are going to be a must have.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Welcome and Thanks for watching! Yeah I guess years ago it was a great deal but not anymore. Its like they said Oh Crap....we dont want this cause we wont get PAID. Yes I believe you are correct, it will probly go away and batteries will be a must and the way to go! I just never want to lose power. Happend once in the winter when we first purchased this house and it sucked! Made a deal with myself that it would never happen again.🤘

@tm510a 4 ай бұрын

Have you taken apart the Ethos battery yet? I would love to see whats inside.Hey Joe I'm sure you know if you click on the battery icon in SA it will give the amps being drawn too. Thanks for the video.

@Self.reliant 4 ай бұрын

Can you do a video on why you want a bms to comunicatr with the inverter? And can the jbd bms comunicate with inverters?

@sebastienmuniz9788 4 ай бұрын

Hi, an other great video You rather this set up or the EP Cube ?

@Farlok2088 3 ай бұрын

About the Peak Shaving feature. If you have it GRID tied, will it just pull from battery when a peak is detected or will it blend power from both GRID and battery?

@stevenfrazier8939 4 ай бұрын

you might have made it with the Rino 2

@johnypitman2368 3 ай бұрын

what was the percent of discharge and the total time of the loads. The most important question i had

@paulcurtis5496 4 ай бұрын

Like# 26, sneaky release!

@paulcurtis5496 4 ай бұрын

I've been on pins and needles waiting for this follow up video!

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

😆😆

@paulcurtis5496 4 ай бұрын

Boom! Ordered my first Merch!

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

NIIICE! Which one you get?

@paulcurtis5496 4 ай бұрын

Green T 😅

@clarencewiles963 4 ай бұрын

You’re one battery away from being self sufficient 😂 but you have the power 🤪 Don’t forget to take your cat 🐈‍⬛ out of the bag. 💼

@junakowicz 4 ай бұрын

How about idle consumption?

@kainoslyfe 4 ай бұрын

So just to be clear, if I have an existing grid tied solar array with Enphase IQ8M micro inverters with combiner box, I’d be able to use that energy that’s being created during an outage to power the battery?

@jasonrhee943 4 ай бұрын

I believe as long as it goes into the generator connection.

@rozarijorodin 4 ай бұрын

When you are going to connect other batteries to this inverter? The DIY battery... and others? That's will give you after fully charged at least week power without grid...

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Plan to here real soon! Ill have to reconfig some stuff for my busbars, bms and shunt but well make videos for that!💥🤘

@paulcurtis5496 4 ай бұрын

Dang, my mini-split can consume up to 3kWatt/hrs all by itself... I really have to install the radiant floor heating... Wow, what is your dryer drawing?

@joselopez8265 2 ай бұрын

What size wire are you using from the inverter to your load panel?

@AveRage_Joe 2 ай бұрын

I am using 6awg stranded THHN.

@jasonrhee943 4 ай бұрын

Hey Joe love the content. How much PV do you have? Im going with a solark 15k (very similar) and your set up is almost mirrored what im getting. I am a bit east of Nebraska so I'm assuming it would be pretty comparable.

@kainoslyfe 4 ай бұрын

Are you doing grid tied solar with micros? I was looking at the solark 15k as well. Trying to find something that will work with grid tied solar with micros+ combiner box

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Man! On the roof I have array 1 with 12 new 370w panels. Array 2 has 12 used santan 245w panels. Array 3 is a ground mount with 10 used 202w panels. Keep in mind my roof angle is TERRIBLE and almost flat. Winter time is very bad. I plan to add moar solar and move some panels around here real soon. You in Iowa?

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

You can use this inverter and run your AC coupled system into the generator port if you wanted to have that system work if the power goes out.

@jasonrhee943 3 ай бұрын

@@AveRage_Joe actually in Indiana. Indiana Michigan power company shot me down for any solar over 6.4 kwh because my usage wasn't high enough. Granted I got gas central heat and water. Want to convert those to electric so I'm more self reliant. Seeing your test makes me happy knowing 15 kwh storage is very reasonable for me.

@chojthoj08 3 ай бұрын

So from the time you used the batteries without any charge, what did you use around the house to make it died around 4am???

@AveRage_Joe 3 ай бұрын

That would be my homes "idle". Thats a couple of fridges, couple computers, router, cable modem and a slew of phantom stuff like laptops, tool battery chargers ect... Could I turn some of that off to make it last longer, sure.

@chojthoj08 3 ай бұрын

@@AveRage_Joe Thank you. I am thinking about getting one for my off grid property

@RUDY3098 4 ай бұрын

Is this your main setup, or is it just an information video.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

This will be the main setup but will add to it!🤘

@augustorange8868 2 ай бұрын

Can this work with zero grid input?

@AveRage_Joe 2 ай бұрын

Yes it can! Can be off grid (no grid input)or (with grid input)!🤘

@stevenfrazier8939 4 ай бұрын

How do I integrate Solar Assistant with my 18K PV?

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

I used an orange Pi. It connects with my wifi. Then after setting up the wifi dongle on inverter, select it in the list in solar assist app! EZPZ 💥🤘

@mitchrothermel8157 4 ай бұрын

60Kw battery is not big enough for those dark and snowy winter days off grid.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Yep....was afraid of that! Will need moar battery and solar. I think 60kwh would be a "starting" point. Is that what you have and can confirm?

@mitchrothermel8157 4 ай бұрын

Yep and 5.25 kw of solar. As of right now I create the perfect amount power. In summer in need to run ac’s just so I don’t waste all that power

@davidpatrick1813 4 ай бұрын

Can I get one of these for free?

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Anything is possible. 🤷‍♂️

@chuxxsss 4 ай бұрын

I am late this morning.

@AveRage_Joe 4 ай бұрын

Not really! Right on time!💥

@chuxxsss 4 ай бұрын

@AveRage_Joe Just finished mower with electric mower. Had to return my ryobi ride on as not fit for purpose.