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BEN HOGAN'S GRIP what it can do for YOU! HOGAN Full Swing

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Steve Johnston Golf

Steve Johnston Golf

Күн бұрын

Ben Hogans grip and how it influences his swing are on show in this video. Ben Hogan's grip and what it can do for you are amazing findings in this video where I try to put Ben Hogans book into life. The Hogan full swing is discussed in full in my previous videos so don't miss them
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@djpoints
@djpoints 4 ай бұрын
Yes sir! Subscribed! As a former high handicapper who practically instantly became a scratch golfer after reading Hogan's Five Lessons i vehemently believe they are the only instruction any amateur should ever focus on! I've read and watched so much other instruction over the years and nothing cuts to the chase better than he did way back in 1957! It's perfection. And as he said it ALL starts with this grip. That is the whole key to sending the club into motion on its natural orbit while really feeling the clubhead throughout its entire journey. The drill to practice without trail hand index and thumb is brilliant. This light light grip pressure sets the entire motion on its proper course. It naturally produces the smoothest, silkiest motion as the club literally whips through impact. This way the all-important lead hand dominates, supinates, pounds, and freely releases all the energy into the ball. I can practicaly flush the ball all day long with my eyes closed thanks to Hogan's grip and his five lessons.
@jeffkiziah112
@jeffkiziah112 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I never heard it explained so simply! This helped more than any golf lesson! Thanks for the explanation and what’s comfortable for me and how it works! This allows to swing so naturally it’s crazy! I learned from you in 15 mins than all those other guys out there in 15 years! Thanks Steve! U da man!
@jimburacchio9714
@jimburacchio9714 3 жыл бұрын
Steve.. I just went out and clocked three 7 irons... Index finger and thumb... WOW.... Eureka.... its a beautiful thing /JB/NC
@hudsonkiyonaga
@hudsonkiyonaga 2 жыл бұрын
This grip literally changed my game, I also put it together with the Ben Hogan rotation video you made and I have never hit the ball straighter and more pure.
@mofojohnson1
@mofojohnson1 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer a slightly weaker left hand grip personally, a strong grip seems to make my early extension worse but the weaker grip helps get my hands to release through impact better and I draw my irons
@rolandvasquez4758
@rolandvasquez4758 3 жыл бұрын
Your Ben Hogan series of videos is amazing! I have struggled with an inconsistent swing for years. I watched your Ben Hogan series and practiced the techniques in your videos and I my swing has made remarkable improvements. Thanks for making the series and I look forward to viewing more of your videos.
@williammahon520
@williammahon520 3 жыл бұрын
Showing the bowing and cupping at the top of your backswing was completely new to me. Your explanations are so in depth and helpful. Thank you sir.
@williamtaylor8782
@williamtaylor8782 7 ай бұрын
I learned to become a champion golfer by reading and following Ben Hogan's teachings of Power Golf !!!!!!!! Illustrations of Ben Hogan's swing and even putting stroke in Power Golf was the absolute best teaching method in the world of golf. Every beginning golfer should follow Ben Hogan's style of playing golf.
@petermcgill1315
@petermcgill1315 3 жыл бұрын
Went back to my well worn Hogan book after struggling with a weak fade combined with a strong (ish) grip. This explains how I now hit straight (ish) to a draw with the weaker grip. Cheers!
@sixcylinders6346
@sixcylinders6346 3 жыл бұрын
Nearly 60k subscribers 👍 Very well deserved Steve. Great content delivered with a good sense of humour. I’m sure 100k will come soon.
@mussaramadan
@mussaramadan 11 күн бұрын
Today I used Ben Hogan short and low back swing the ball came out like a rocket it was like magic just after 31 years
@Criscross292
@Criscross292 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that’s improved my game has been your tips and some old Greg Norman videos now on KZfaq. Norman’s ‘mesh grip’ really helped me.
@chadallen4966
@chadallen4966 3 жыл бұрын
The Shark! 🦈
@JayRacer
@JayRacer 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched so many other people “analyze” this grip and it NEVER made sense. Finally!!!! Somebody who took the time and delve into the minutia, even hitting some kinesiology points. I took some time off and played 2x in the last 2 weeks. Once was with a former colleague who I haven’t seen in ages. I played disastrously both times.and I have been beating myself up over not putting in the practice. Today I watched this video multiple times and my swing felt like it used to when I would crush the ball. Only this time I didn’t beat the ball like it owed me $$$$$$. Thank you!
@bernardduffy3300
@bernardduffy3300 3 жыл бұрын
I could not believe this! I have Hogan's book and I was reading the chapter on grip this morning! Now, you have posted a video on the same thing. This has made it so much easier to understand Hogan's written text. You made everything very clear! Thanks a lot.
@heathen5481
@heathen5481 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to adjust my grip for months now according to recommendations from friends and videos. This video simplified everything I should have been doing all along! Thanks you so much for simply explaining and answering so many of my questions.
@stevejohnstongolf
@stevejohnstongolf 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks👍👍👍
@paternoborlagdan8586
@paternoborlagdan8586 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most detailed instruction/demonstration of the Ben Hogan's grip...very fitting for my Ben Hogan's golf swing. Now my golf swing fundamentals complete! Thank you very much Steve....Cheers!!!
@stevejohnstongolf
@stevejohnstongolf 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paterno 👏🏻👍
@jvelez1998
@jvelez1998 Жыл бұрын
Great lesson, Steve. Hogan was a master. This is one of the best videos on the grip I have scene.
@stevejohnstongolf
@stevejohnstongolf Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@kenkohl2181
@kenkohl2181 3 жыл бұрын
That was one helluva vid, Steve. Great job of putting together the sensibility of weaker grip and eureka system. Well done.👍
@michaeldemeule9651
@michaeldemeule9651 3 жыл бұрын
I am a fader who has leaned into it rather than trying to recreate the "perfect" PGA tour flight...aka draw. I play with a neutral grip as the "strong" grip left me feeling out of sync. At times this even causes me to pull my shots left as I have a fast lower body to compensate for less agility in shoulder turn due to a large chest and not being able to get left shoulder under chin. Thanks Steve! You validate my unconventional swing....and with Ramm winning, and Spieth's "chicken wing" I am finally learning to make my own swing that works for me!
@fradaja
@fradaja 3 жыл бұрын
Best instructional video on KZfaq seen them all, very concise , not patronising , I'm a fan
@plugger4945
@plugger4945 3 жыл бұрын
All your videos are, by far, the best ANYWHERE! Keep up the amazing work, and thank you.
@josephbrumley7921
@josephbrumley7921 Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed in my videos I come over the top a lot. I was trying this and the swing for last hour and it just feels very natural. I’m not trying to force anything. Thank you for a great explanation.
@MartinTaylor2008
@MartinTaylor2008 3 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video - I really look forward to them as your dry wit and common sense just make them so interesting and useful
@jefftaylor9250
@jefftaylor9250 3 жыл бұрын
Love how you explain how the grip and pressure points affect body mechanics and swing plane. That's what I'm trying to learn. Great vid
@joeknight8263
@joeknight8263 3 жыл бұрын
What a difference. I’ve struggled with a big fade and slice. I’ve played 72 holes since watching this video and changing my grip. The results …. I missed only 4 fairways and added around 20 yards to my drives. Thank you Steve.
@gregtobias2477
@gregtobias2477 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video on Hogans grip...I was taught this grip many years ago and lost it over thr years....I will give it a try at the range soon.
@stevejohnstongolf
@stevejohnstongolf 6 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@cspears16
@cspears16 8 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT JOB WITH CLEAR EXPLANATIONS AND DEMONSTRATIONS.
@Mattierodgers30002
@Mattierodgers30002 3 жыл бұрын
I love the hogan series,especially the grip as it is almost identical to mines,I don't try to bow my left wrist but it happens almost automatically as long as I can feel the butt end of the grip tight on the heel pad on downswing,it really is genius
@sevesellors2831
@sevesellors2831 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and a very well explained lesson on the grip.Love the Hogan series very interesting and would loved to have seen Hogan play with today’s equipment, I think he would have cleaned up!
@astroidother3609
@astroidother3609 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, you have a new fan. Englishman in Texas and I tried this today. Felt weird at first but results were instant. Very weird on my driver as I normally have a big fade. Straightened it out by opening my stance! It worked straight away! Very weird but very effective. Thanks for your easy to follow and simple tips.
@graemehume6839
@graemehume6839 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Steve , described it beautifully, in his early years his left hand was strong and in an effort to rid the hook he moved the left hand to a weaker position , hit hard with out fear of hooking !
@vinebutton
@vinebutton 6 ай бұрын
I’ve recently took this onto the course and i’ve never struck the ball better… From drives to chipping, seem to be able to compress the ball better too
@billchuplis9460
@billchuplis9460 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to try it out. Feels so much more comfortable than a strong interlocking grip and I can twist the face closed and less open about the same. Guess it depends on one's orthopedic situation.
@deehazen2352
@deehazen2352 3 жыл бұрын
You deserve the award, hope you get it soon - thanks for ALL your videos and tips!
@alanwaterworth6464
@alanwaterworth6464 Жыл бұрын
This was so helpful, thanks for posting this. I´ve been fascinated with Hogans swing for a while, he himself said he starts the swing with the lower body, shifting the weight to the lead leg and firing the hips, letting the club follow like a whip... i´ve noticed other pros on YT starting to talk about this recently and thought, hang on, I´m sure Ben Hogan did this so came back to studies of his swing and sure enough, there it is. Then I noticed that Hogans grip looked odd, compared to the stronger grip I´ve learned (I tend to draw or hook the ball, but it can turn into a slice if I get too quick with the hips, even with a strong grip, but hit it cleaner with what feels like a weaker grip) I guess it´s time to unlearn what I´ve been doing wrong and go buy hogans book, then I might finally break 80!
@scottgranado
@scottgranado 5 ай бұрын
Great video and one of the few I've ran across relating the connection of body movement with different grips
@grahamjones7371
@grahamjones7371 2 жыл бұрын
My grip was learnt from Hogans book But remember hogan was left handed playing right so you will have to do a lot of left side strengthening and coordination. I ve had to become almost ambidextrous! to get the most out of this weak left hand grip tho i have managed to get my left thumb to the right of the shaft and almost matching it with the my heel pad. Hogan bangs on about pressure in his right index knuckle and this is the key to using your right side in the golf swing,sustaining pressure on the grip,which is what the drill of swinging with right thumb off grip teaches you.
@paulunderhay3031
@paulunderhay3031 4 ай бұрын
Love this video Steve - have struggled with a sub-optimal grip for too long, this feels good and is giving me more confidence (like I have a ‘north star’ that I can trust) Great stuff! 👍🏼
@grahamcrossland6317
@grahamcrossland6317 3 жыл бұрын
Tried the Hogan grip today and was extremely pleased with the result. Thanks very much
@johnmercer6212
@johnmercer6212 3 жыл бұрын
Steve, thought I would drop by to say hello as I’ve been following your content for some time now. I like your presentation style and find your content top drawer. I’m 60 years old and play about six times per week, your little experiments with the game have been quite helpful to me. I’m currently playing with an 8 handicap but would like to shave one stroke off of that this year.
@jaydoherty6118
@jaydoherty6118 3 жыл бұрын
I had this grip for years and being the perennial tinkerererrrrr...as we all are tried to get better by going and doing something unproductive. Hogan was a genius, pure class again Steve.
@richardwine8737
@richardwine8737 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video on Ben Hogan's 5 Lessons
@danp2070
@danp2070 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, cheers Steve
@harold4506
@harold4506 10 ай бұрын
Hogan was one of a kind.
@nicholasschroeder3678
@nicholasschroeder3678 2 жыл бұрын
As a teen I consulted that book like the Bible. I went over that grip over and over and practiced until my callouses were exactly like his in the drawings. It's what got me breaking 80, and supination got me to scratch.
@tonythomas8564
@tonythomas8564 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Steve. The whole Hogan series has been brilliant
@redrider8036
@redrider8036 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent instruction!
@jasondoherty1984
@jasondoherty1984 3 жыл бұрын
Started reading the book today very good and well explained
@jbr4771
@jbr4771 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Bought his book about a month ago and your videos really compliment it 👍
@skintslots
@skintslots 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting point about the middle two fingers on the right hand being a power source as I am somebody who tends to involve the thumb and index finger too much. Definitely food for thought.
@terryholloway9930
@terryholloway9930 3 жыл бұрын
You taught me something thought I was doing it right I was all wrong thanks Steve you are the man
@michaellittle2025
@michaellittle2025 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review of Mr. Hogan’s grip and body rotation to square up the club face!
@mang3139
@mang3139 Жыл бұрын
LOVE this Hogan series Steve
@stevejohnstongolf
@stevejohnstongolf Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏻
@majorsmythe1
@majorsmythe1 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your channel. One of the best out there now to learn and overall info. Great stuff.
@timothycarry
@timothycarry 2 жыл бұрын
That is so interesting as you have lots of views having the pressure in the index of the right. I think Ben was right as it will help keep the right hand from rolling the face. His wrist was so very bent back that the index finger would be a death move for him.
@bend8969
@bend8969 2 жыл бұрын
For such a tall guy, he can replicate hogan's swing and drills very well
@aaajjworm
@aaajjworm 3 жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching your vids and finally took the "knowledge" to the range tonight. It. Was. AWESOME!!! Thank you for giving me hope to play decent again someday soon! I'm playing 9 holes tomorrow!
@Stevehedges63
@Stevehedges63 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Steve. Just bought the Hogan book myself 👍🏼
@petercottam258
@petercottam258 2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos Steve you have a simple uncomplicated way of explaining them, I very often use your methods when Im on the range or the short game area, I have really enjoyed the Ben Hogan series it suits my swing path, really good stuff Steve and keep up the good work
@adrianmorley3495
@adrianmorley3495 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. I’ve been using the Eureka swing for a couple of months now. It has helped me a lot. My bad shot is a hook. I do bow my wrist in my back swing. Hopefully this video will help me straighten things out. I’ll definitely be trying weakening my grip.
@jayschultz7395
@jayschultz7395 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the incredible detail in describing Hogans grip. I started out trying to teach myself to play from Hogans book.
@markbrook4697
@markbrook4697 3 жыл бұрын
This is top stuff Steve great explanation of the basics!
@johnnoble8907
@johnnoble8907 3 жыл бұрын
Good job explaining the hogan grip
@Sir_Godz
@Sir_Godz 3 жыл бұрын
still waiting for a vid with a kilt
@fontane007
@fontane007 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of the Hogan grip and the left hand is about the same as my own but I’m a long way from understanding how to hit the ball by turning the body by the left waist and creating that draw. It’s something I would love to do though. Great vid
@alasdairstuart3394
@alasdairstuart3394 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a slo mo swing analysis of Tommy Fleetwood last week - he actually lifts his right thumb off the shaft on the backswing. I’m led to believe Mr Fleetwood is a half decent ball striker (!) so you may be on to something here, Steve…😉. Many thanks for another brilliant ‘grip’ video, they’ve got me going right back to basics. 🙏
@noelharrison9094
@noelharrison9094 Жыл бұрын
Loving it. Great style of teaching 🏌🏻
@qd5683
@qd5683 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea for a video Steve. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
@williamelliott6709
@williamelliott6709 3 жыл бұрын
Great series so far! Learning a lot! Making my golf swing feel brand new based on old tried and true information has been wild.
@eddbenson7223
@eddbenson7223 2 жыл бұрын
Valuable grip instruction. Thanks 👍
@sscully67
@sscully67 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Hogan series! Keep em coming Stevo. 👍
@bayareadoghouse
@bayareadoghouse 2 жыл бұрын
I dropped 18 stokes immediately by aggressively pointing my left middle and ring finger to the sky at impact. It creates supination and a snap for increased power. I’m no Hogan but Steve you gotta do a lesson on it. I have not seen a single video on this. Changed my golf life. My Eureka!!!! Love all your videos!
@devonwilliams9168
@devonwilliams9168 2 жыл бұрын
Great grip demo!
@bernardhilton3527
@bernardhilton3527 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this info Steve. I used to have a copy of the Hogan book but sent it to a charity book shop years ago. Hey ho.
@1DCCX
@1DCCX 3 жыл бұрын
When you pivot fast anti-clockwise, and the left arm rotates and reconnects to the left pec, if you have a strong grip you will hook it low left. Most people don’t pivot on and on and on to the finish, the club never unloads, the toe never goes ‘out’ to the ball, the face is open, they slice it right and then to avoid that, they throw the hands at it or go back to a strong grip. When the solution is to pivot even more and even more ‘left’, not to strengthen the grip or stall flip.
@dougierobertson2099
@dougierobertson2099 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have helped in the past and this came along at just the right time. My grip has been getting stronger and stronger with duck hooks and pulls showing up too often with the driver . One video and a bucket of balls later I’m back. Sincere thanks. Can you do one now on getting a 62 year old past 200 yards with a driver ?
@edlloyd976
@edlloyd976 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, great clip and well explained.
@peterhansen4671
@peterhansen4671 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid Steve! I have been trying to get rid of my cupped left wrist at the top while using a strong grip with mixed results. Went to the weak Hogan style grip ...Bingo.
@hughcumming1806
@hughcumming1806 3 жыл бұрын
Steve I’ve been using the swing tips you showed with good results now to put the grip into play and see where it takes me , I let you know cheers
@jimgolfer6630
@jimgolfer6630 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very clear instruction.
@bobreidy8665
@bobreidy8665 3 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video. Keep up the good work.
@trevorgriffiths5136
@trevorgriffiths5136 2 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant Steve, thank you.
@boydgrandy5769
@boydgrandy5769 3 жыл бұрын
You're right. It feels weird. Everything you change in your grip and swing feels weird at first. This appears to work really well though. Thanks Steve. You too, Ben...
@marcmanion4264
@marcmanion4264 3 жыл бұрын
Wow - that’s an interesting concept! Do you think this grip evolved because he had the “draw/hook” issue in his career? I think I might end up with a closed clubface at address …. But trying to fave the ball could be a dream come true! Might just stick with Eureka!!!
@marcmanion4264
@marcmanion4264 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve - do you think that adopting the Hogan grip - with a stronger grip and with less pressure with RH fingers you could really have a lash at the ball without sending it way left?
@CapoblancoTube
@CapoblancoTube 2 жыл бұрын
DJ as a very strong grip. If you look for weak grips see to Jordan Spieth or Rod Pampling.
@Paul-lm5gv
@Paul-lm5gv 11 ай бұрын
Very good demonstration with excellent closeups! But...Hogan was a perfectionist and his swing was precision! Most of the golf swings I see on the golf course today - it almost doesn't matter how they hold the club - they are awful! *Bottom line: You've got to put a good swing on it!*
@claydennison2038
@claydennison2038 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@chadallen4966
@chadallen4966 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a Dead Cat on a body mic pretty cool maybe I've just not been paying attention till now... nice vid man.
@eddbenson7223
@eddbenson7223 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that Hogan cupped his wrist at the top and didn't bow it. On the down swing he waisted it from a cupped to a bowed position.
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut Ай бұрын
Because Hogan was such a great precision athlete akin to gymnastics & down hill skiing, this the only thing all golfers can take from his game.
@jimburacchio9714
@jimburacchio9714 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always.. JB / NC
@geoff_vadar
@geoff_vadar Жыл бұрын
Steve, I've been overhauling my 40 years old crap rubbish casting swing into the best I can do hogan style. As you have, Ted Hunt did a brilliant job decoding Hogan's intents in two books, "The Magical Devise" and "Short Game Simplified". There is a drawing on the top right of page 5 in "Five Lessons" that looks like the thumb is square on top of the shaft/grip versus slightly to the right. My only question, I deciphered that the right thumb is actually on top of the club vs slightly on the right side of the grip, pointed at the ball based on Hogan's drawings and Hunt's description, as Hogan doesn't really cover the thumb in enough detail. Also, apparently, Hogan initially placed the left thumb "long" or relaxed on the shaft and evolved to the left thumb being drawn up "short" against the right palm vs under the right palm, UNLESS he wanted to hit a cut. What are your thoughts?
@randyunderwood2894
@randyunderwood2894 2 жыл бұрын
he also knew that the right thumb and index finger were the key to controlling the club face. he would hold a broken tee in that union and have just enough pressure as to not let that tee come out.
@grillbuster1519
@grillbuster1519 Жыл бұрын
Once you interlock, aren’t you lifting and moving/the first finger/main grip from the left hand on the golf club? I definitely want to be able to interlock (not overlap), but figured I would be compromising the grip since we seem to lock that finger tight at the beginning. Great tutorial thanks a lot.
@stevejohnstongolf
@stevejohnstongolf Жыл бұрын
Tiger interlocks, Jack Nicklaus overlaps🤷‍♂️
@grillbuster1519
@grillbuster1519 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I read the chapter again and the pressure points are really the other 3 fingers, so I probably shouldn’t have been nervous about interlock. ESP if tiger does it. Thanks again will refer back to your video.
@thestereoclub6735
@thestereoclub6735 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video- the very rare golf video that is not instruction per se, just interesting historical content. There's more than one way to skin a cat and hit a golf ball. When I was a kid I had a really weak interlocking grip and a handsy swing with a big turn. Fifty plus years later, I need a really strong, 10 finger grip down at the base of the fingers, or every shot is weak and left. Looking back, I compensated for the weak grip with lots of flexibility that I no longer have. A really strong grip squares the club face without effort, and is easier on my hands.
@williampalmer6712
@williampalmer6712 3 жыл бұрын
Steve can you show this grip without a glove as it gives a better idea where it sits in the left hand.Thanks
@steveking2144
@steveking2144 3 жыл бұрын
I developed a different version of the overlap... I think it may be used by some people when putting but I did it because at the time I had a blister and it stopped the rubbing. So what I do is the index finger of the top hand, overlaps the bottom finger of the bottom hand. It's quite comfortable. Your thoughts?
@justmythought1586
@justmythought1586 3 жыл бұрын
Hogan had such a hook that he also had his irons heavily toe-weighted. When a current pro visits the Hogan company, sometime they let him hit his irons. They have trouble hitting them. Slice like crazy. The only pro who could figure out how to hit those clubs was Tiger Woods.
@garydinmore1598
@garydinmore1598 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you read this?
@justmythought1586
@justmythought1586 3 жыл бұрын
@@garydinmore1598 Gold Digest of Golf magazine several years ago. It was an article on the Hogan club manufacturer I believe. Or was it on the Golf Channel??. What I remember was the Tiger Woods comment. I just thought, "Wow".
@Dropit174
@Dropit174 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a much more and connected swing Steve? What was the main feeling ya had please ?
@stevedickson3037
@stevedickson3037 3 жыл бұрын
I turned up with this grip at a golf lesson years and years ago. The Pro changed it, I said, “ This grip is out of the Ben Hogan book. “ He said, “ But you are not Ben Hogan” Fair point, well presented.
@ruatoomey9107
@ruatoomey9107 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly this. Love the grip content but it’s one thing to have Hogans grip, but entirely another to know what he was thinking.
@garydinmore1598
@garydinmore1598 3 жыл бұрын
Who said this “By continuing to practice and apply these fundamentals, the golfer will continue to improve his game - quite often, far beyond his fondest dreams.”
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