🇭🇷 Zagreb to Rijeka HZ 4000 direct train, scenographic railway route but poor rolling stock (4K)

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11 ай бұрын

9 august 2023
Zagreb Glavni Kolvdor main train station
🇬🇧 In this video we are going to catch the direct train service (HZ4000) from the croatian capital Zagreb to Rijeka (Fiume) on the Adriatic sea. Service is operated by Hrvatske željeznice (Croatian Railways), is a 229km long route thorught the mountains to the Adriatic coastline. 4 hours and 30 minutes and 43 stops, with a pour rolling stock, but through a scenografic line. With a bonus clip at the end of the video.
🇮🇹 In questo video andremo a provare il collegamento ferroviario diretto tra Zagabria e Fiume, con il treno HZ 4000 delle ferrovie croate. Il tempo di percorrenza è di ben 4 ore e 30 minuti, in cui il treno farà ben 43 fermate, rendendo il viaggio un po' difficile, anche a causa del materiale rotabile di scarsa qualità. Nel video potrete anche vedere come questa sia una linea molto scenografica, grazie alla differenza di paesaggi durante il tragitto e come potrebbe essere sfruttata meglio a fini di turismo ferroviario.
HZ4000 - RJ1364
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@x4700 9 ай бұрын

HŽ series 6111 are Hungarian Ganz-MÁVAG commuter trains from 1976 which were used for Zagreb's urban and suburban railway. They were mostly replaced by the new Croatian-designed HŽ series 6112 by Končar Electric Vehicles (KEV). The remaining examples of 6111 were (for some inexplicable and inexcusable reason) temporarily switched to the Zagreb - Rijeka line. I completely agree with your assessment, they are entirely unsuitable for intercity travel, and the vandalism problem is just terrible.

@vatroslavmarkus24 10 ай бұрын

Sramota me nekad ove zemlje kad vidim ovakvo nešto ....

@gabrielklaus4334 7 ай бұрын

Most awesome routes with amazing views of nature and landscape

@avarielhr 10 ай бұрын

To be honest, I don't know how did this rolling stock end on this route, because it is usually on suburban routes around Zagreb (mostly). As for the grafitti, this week in NL, some of the rolling stock I saw and rode, wasn't much better, for example.

@maxmilenium2 2 ай бұрын

Ma dai non vedi che è la macchina del capo stazione ? Ti pare che i viaggiatori parcheggino dentro ?

@samirosmano 5 ай бұрын

Najstariji vozni park ako ne u svijetu,sigurno u Europi sa prosjekom 40 g starosti!

@aquss33 3 ай бұрын

Dayum, we really do have some shitty trains here in Croatia. For some extra context, the route many people take like 3 times daily, often packed with 80+ people is a route from Križevci to Zagreb, they're 64km apart by train. It takes around 45 minutes by car when accounting for all the waiting at traffic lights in Zagreb's city center (the capital)... that's actually quite fast in comparison with the train which sometimes takes from 1.5 to 2.5h or more... I remember missing 2 museums on a school trip cuz we arrived 2 hours late, we were supposed to depart at like 6.30am but departed at 7.30, we also waited at some random village station for 45 minutes. The trains are amazing though, they're very modern and can go like 200km/h, probably, idk really since they only ever reach 120 and that's for like 2 seconds (they have speedometers and shit, real fancy stuff) before they have to break again to stop at the next bloody village at which 0-1 person get off that's 3 minutes over, also I believe that the railroad was constructed sometime during or a bit after Austro-Hungarian rule, the 150 y/o steam trains went the same speed, around 120km/h most of the way... Would a direct route that takes 35 minutes kill them? No. Will they do it? Of course not... lol it's Croatia, why would we ever build anything useful...

@davorlekenik9563 9 ай бұрын

👍👍👍

@nxadventures9510 10 ай бұрын

This is an old Sisak-Zagreb commuter train that did that line multiple times a day, every day, for at least 20 years. Hence all the grafitti, dirt, etc. There are two other and mich better trains going on that route, it is imoortant to check on the website which one is going at that time. These are usually typical coupe cars.

@liviogasparin5260 10 ай бұрын

Dont give people wrong information. There is only one train line from Zagreb to Rijeka daily. If you have to travel on a certain date you dont have any choice than this.

@lovro1518 11 ай бұрын

why they use this train?? obviously there isnt enough new trains... what is the problem with the car on 8:14 . it is probably hžinfra staff's car.

@thenexstation 11 ай бұрын

I don't have any problem, I like traditional railways with light rules and no barriers, I repeat as stations, landscapes and staff this route is fantastic, my problem is with rolling stocks

@marekgawronski6788 11 ай бұрын

Za Jugosławii byly restauracje i bary na dworcach teraz budy z fastfoodami 😂DROGO I TANDETNIE 😮😂

@Bhhjkltrwv 9 ай бұрын

Natutlich

@Bhhjkltrwv 9 ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤❤

@Bhhjkltrwv 9 ай бұрын

Zsgreb solit

@marekgawronski6788 11 ай бұрын

WŁAŚCICIELE HOTELI I KWSTER NIE PŁACĄ PODATKÓW TO BRAK KASY NA REMONTY KOLEJI

@lovro1518 11 ай бұрын

go see a doctor. railway and trains do not have connections with private people who own hotels.

@kubanowakowski3869 8 ай бұрын

⁠@@lovro1518how they don’t? They literally have to pay taxes and they don’t that’s why there’s no money for nothing

@Bhhjkltrwv 11 ай бұрын

Sehr gut

@datupersada2479 5 ай бұрын

I rode it once and the seats weee good but not the best view cuz of graffiti

@samirosmano 5 ай бұрын

I kaubojski vlak je bolji od ovog,nema do kupea!

@InsaaniatDost 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 subway surfers...... i think this game is inspired by this

@marekgawronski6788 11 ай бұрын

TURYSTYKA PRZEREKLAMOWANA 😂DZADOSTWO JAK WE WLOSZECH DROGO I BRUDNO 😂 JEDZENIE TO PLACKI Z SEREM I ROBALE DLA BEZDOMNYCH EMIGRANTOW 😂

@lovro1518 11 ай бұрын

you are jealous of Croatia and tourism. go shopping up on the ocean in Poland. frolic in the brown water. you are so uneducated that you don't know a word of English and you still yell in capital letters

@markeeecmarkoni2855 9 ай бұрын

Sramota za gledati..... kolodvori užas. Jeste vidjeli kako izgledaju novi sad i Beograd!? stari moj ...... Mi smo za njih Afganistan

@dannyboy-vtc5741 Ай бұрын

Daj ne gnoji, po njihovom priznanju, pisanju njihovih novina, u beogradu u svakom datom trenutku imas oko 200 ilegalnih deponija smeca na podrucju grada. Dzaba ti novi neboderi kada je smece svuda po gradu, a kanalizacija se izljeva direktno u rijeku, dobar dio jos ni nema kanalizaciju. Ovaj vlak je smece, i kolodvori i zeljeznica su nam zadnji na pameti istina, no usporedivati zagreb i beograd je cisto glupo. Imas onaj kanal babe, bahati beogradani koji snima ulice grada, svo drvece po gradu, gdje ga ima uz plocnike, svaki taj dio zemljani oko korjena ima otprilike kantu opusaja od cigareta pometenih tj zguranih tamo sa plocnika. Dakle polako, zeljeznice nam nisu na ponos, ali povlaciti paralele koje ti povlacis, pogledaj im pothodnike, npr kod vukovog spomenika stanicu, doslovno fekalije, da ne spominjem broj beskucnika.

@vatroslavmarkus24 10 ай бұрын

Šta nama vozi kakve šklopocije.... sramota do Boga.....

@marekgawronski6788 11 ай бұрын

BRUD I SMRUD NA DWORCACH A POCIAG WYGLADA JAK Z BANGLADESZU 😂 TO WARTOŚCI MAFI Z UNI EUROPEJSKIEJ 😂

@lovro1518 11 ай бұрын

hahahaha how you insulted us . nobody cares for you and your comment.

@BM-in2kb 26 күн бұрын

Strasno

@Bhhjkltrwv 9 ай бұрын

Sehr gut heir mit dem zug

@lovro1518 11 ай бұрын

how would you create a "direct fast service" if you have a poor infrastructure. you could have been in a low floor končar train and you would travel on the same speed as in 6111 train for 4.5 hours. unfortanately, we dont have money for repairing the whole railway from zagreb to rijeka.

@thenexstation 11 ай бұрын

I know I'm goin to speak about utopia, but Bernina Railway has just single track , but they have 2 different service Bernina Regio and Bernina Express, you can give green light in the most of the station to a express service and put in waiting normal service, I think infrastructure are a real problem, but you can save 30 minutes at least in the route zagreb rijeka. Or you can keep this timetable and 47 stops, but you have to improve a rolling stock as RegioJet, class 6111 is the worst, in my opinion

@crochapz 11 ай бұрын

@@thenexstation Although I do agree on some stuff you noted, its not feasable. Tourists need one train a day, and only over a couple of months through the year. Express service makes no sense because you don't have the critical mass of people who would use this service daily so that it would make sense to operate it. Also, Rijeka is an industrial, not tourist city, so not really much tourists go to Rijeka, mostly only switch there for other destinations, or use different direct services like bus. But, the good news, there is a plan to do a completely new route, which will unfortunately be a lot in tunnels to allow 160km/h speeds and low incline.

@lovro1518 11 ай бұрын

@@thenexstation there is no people here for that. our country has 3.8 milion people. trains outside the suburban Zagreb system are empty. and the train cannot compete with highways at these current speeds on the larger distance to osijek, rijeka, split...

@vatroslavmarkus24 10 ай бұрын

@@lovro1518so you want to say that we must leave the railways in such a miserable condition???? Look at Slovenia, 2millions of people and look at their railways!