"you pull weapons for the characters" nobody pulls for standard weapons. You just get them and cope with it.

It’s rare to see Zajef coping this hard about his initial choice. The jadewing downplay is crazy.

"Nobody pulls for weapons wothout knowing what characters they're gonna use them on." *proceeds to talk about standard weapons*

Aquila Favonia best? Lmao bruh.. unironically one of Zajef's worst takes. It's kinda weird you would rank a weapon lower just cause you personally don't have anyone you'd use it on. Skyward Harp is a strong stat stick for any dps bow character, not just Fischl. Whereas Aquila Favonia is only good on Bennett and even then Fav and Sapwood exist.

Zajef has hot takes which is fine but this has to be like one of those dumpster fire takes. I think it’s a classic case of being attached to what you have the most experience with which is fine because it is after all his opinion- It’s not a theory crafting tier list rather more of in the line of he’s had Aquila the longest and used it extensively so that’s probably why he ranks it so high. Lost prayer was my first 5 star weapon and I would also rank it pretty high even though it’s probably not as great as I might think

Nobody pulls for standard banner weapons. So the best standard banner weapon is the one that works FINE on the most characters. The one that if you get, you can spread it around nicely until you actually pull on the weapon banner to replace it. I literally only use Aquila on Qiqi and for Bennett I use either Sumeru craftable or the Alley Flash for base ATK

Harp and lost prayer are the best hands down. You can slot those 2 on so many characters and they'll be better than any F2P option almost always. Lost prayer is underrated because it's been dogshit for such a long time, but now you can slot it on wanderer, neuvillette, rizzly, hell even klee is good now with furina.

For the first time I got to disagree almost completly with Zajef. Jadewing is awesome on Xiao and Cyno (Staff of Homa is better, yeah, pull on weapon banner then), I rather use Skyward Blade on bennet (much more energy efficient, GL getting Energy/HP on Aquilla). Harp is super flexible, works in almost every bow character (maybe not BiS but why generics characters are good and an generic weapon is bad?). Skyward Spine is an second catch. Not even mentioning on "You pull on weapons for characters" talking about Standard Weapons.

One of the few times I hard disagree with Zajeff, Aquila is a fine weapon if bennet is key to your account. Harp and lost prayers are definitely better because they make building stats much more comfortable and it’s just a big stat stick that can’t do any bad. If a weapon is great on lots of characters, imo it’s goated af.

"You pull weapons for the character" That's the best weapon for Bennett = Goat That's the best weapon for Xiao = It's okay

Harp being good is so based, BiS other than sometimes elegy on Sara, very good on ganyu, the extra crit damage helps it outperform BiS 4*s easily across the board, BIG FAN

Aquila's worth is base on how much of a big deal bennett is in your account. However, as time goes by we can see bennett will start to lose steam the more we get characters like furina that doesn't scale with atk. Additionally skyward blade having ER can be a lifesaver for people that don't have the artifacts that have enough ER. Aquila is 100% a cope ass take, I see more value in 5* standard crit weapons because crit is a harder stat to get than more healing and ER. A skyward harp literally is worth 60 CV last time I check and that can be a big deal for people that likes to play a character but don't have the crit because then it can be use by most dps that likes crit.

Yeah Zajef missed with this one. Putting Aquila as the goat because it's really good on Bennet and arguing that a weapon only needs to be really good on one character to be amazing, just to drop Jade-Winged Spear down to "fine" specifically because of the lack of users is contradictory. No one pulls for standard weapons, you just get them, so they should be ranked based on how useful they are as stand-ins for characters whose BIS weapons you don't have. And in that regard, I think all of the Skywards do a pretty solid job.

Skyward blade is underrated , its the strongest weapon on Bennett on my opinion cause the ER , its also extremely good with xingqiu and one of the best options for jean which is a very good unit after furina

Zagef is coping hard: “the healing from Aquila…”

NGL the Aquila cope is real here

aint no way he just put aquila God tier but jade spear on fine LMFAO

I have to hard disagree with you on Aquila. The weapon is trash sure it’s high base attack for bennett but skyward blade has ER and a good base attack as well. I think sapwood blade is a better choice for bennett then Aquila and let’s be real Aquila is only used for bennett. The passive is also pretty useless if that heal really mattered I think skill issue considering bennett just heals himself with burst which you will be getting more often with a weapon with ER substat then running Aquila just saying.

A bit weird how Aquila is the GOAT because Bennett is versatile, but Skyward Spine all the way at the bottom despite Raiden also being somewhat versatile

Raiden will get my r2 skyward spine & OPPA already have R5 catch. I'm happy with this

Rational weapon calcs from Zajef from a year ago: Jade (7 stacks) - 102% Skyward - 96% Jade (1 stack) - 92% Fav - 82% (% of the Catch)

>puts aquilla in S bcs it's good (only) on bennett >9:31 Also aquilla is leterally a stat stick so why would you not put it in the corresponding tier.

As a person who actually looks at the numbers my carries do with bennett, Skyward Blade is a better version of Aquila unless you're stacking a lot of pyro particles in your team L tier list putting one of the most useless weapons up above the real goat, Harp

I just got Aquilla on standard banner and uhh .. I don't think I'll even level it. Bigger Bennet buff is nice and all .. but I'd rather have the 46 to 78 ER on him and I hate swapping weapons for specific teams so I'd rather use the one that works on all of em. I also hate wasted passives and that things passives are all but useless. Sadge no Dehya for my Neuvi.

Bro is onto nothing 🔥🔥🔥

6:27 "you pull for weapons for the character, not characters for the weapon" me who pulled ayato now because i lost to haran when trying to pull for raiden weapon way back patch 3.3

I feel like Skyward Harp is now much better for Fischl since the release of the golden troupe set since you will hit diminishing returns at some point with all that Elemental Skill Damage. So the minor crit stats and highest possible base attack on a bow are coming in a little more handy :)

Honestly? Skyward Spine. It was the first one I ever got, right about during the time where I started gearing for abyss for the first time. It helped me enormously, being able to play both Xiangling and Raiden with good weapons. My Raiden has never lost SS since.

Never seen someone cope so hard to put a weapon with the most useless substat and the most useless passive at God tier just becauae it made the one only character to give 90 more atk ish to the teammate (compared to skyward blade which has energy rechagre). Most weapon banners nowaday no longer feature standard weapon so almost every 5 star standard weapons people have are from standard banner and off rate so most people almost never "pull for the characters" except if you played in the first year of the game. They just get it because god of gacha want them to. Therefore standard weapon tierlist should be accounted for how universal it is to use, even when it's not their BiS, but they are still better than most 4 stars option. For me, my GOAT standard weapon would be jade wing spear, it is my first weapon that i got as an off rate, and i just so happen to have Xiao too. But then Hutao came out and i liked her playstyle more so i gave her JWS and she was one of my best DPS. After then i pulled for her C1 and Homa so now the JWS belongs to Xiangling (i'm too lazy to fish for the catch anyway) which is my point for how universal the JWS is, and it is also aplicable for harps, lost player (used to be bad since there were only Klee but now more DPS that can use this) because crit stat is super good for most dps characters, that they are better than 90% of 4 stars wp and can compete for signature as a good stat stick.

I pulled Aquila just recently, and I was kinda happy about giving it to my Bennett... until i realized i already have an Alley Flash (don't ask, it was a long time ago), so i did some calcs to compare and it seems like Aquila would be only about a 4% increased damage on my Xiangling... i was not happy about the results.

Here we have a footage of zajef being high on ultra copium.

PJWS and Harp are the best because they are usually positioned between the best 5star and the best f2p option for many characters. there might be f2p or 4star options that are better than them for some characters, but those weapons are usually not shareable between many characters the way these 2 weapons are.

I just got the lost prayers today on the standard banner though I would've like my first Mona. As long as I don't get skyward pride I'll be happy.

Its the way he compaired Amos and other 5 star weapons to each other to determine how useful/valuable said weapon would be for a character but by that same logic why would you use Aquila if Mistsplitter exist not only does it have the same base attack as Aquila but an INFINITELY better passive that can be used on damn near every sword character. You could even make the argument that Skyward Blade is better because sure it may not have a higher base attack for Bennett but its still higher than all of his 4 star options outside of alley flash which is gacha exclusive anyway and has a high ER stat that he can make use of for instructors, writing off players who dont have a good instructor set to talk about why Aquilia is better doesnt seem fair tbh.

Yet another braindead take by Zagef 😍😍😍😍😍

Aquila is 100% zajeff's personal best pick. It's def not the objective best.

bro glazing aquilla so damn hard

Harp is the best. Wolves, Jade spear and Amos are good if you play an on field dps for those weapons. Skyward blade just sucks, the pipe gives more ER and is free from fishing. Atlas in a post Furina world is actually pretty good and garbage without her.

Bruh Aquila is only good for Bennett, physical kequing ( who plays that now ?) And maybe carry jean ( Fav is better) it's a trash weapon. Primodial jade winged spear and lost prayer is a great stat stick ( help you manage crit stats ) skyward blade is actually good because of ER ( use it on a attack scaling ER hungry character ) skyward polearm is copium.

havent taken skyward spine off shenhe since i got it. the high base attack and er is so nice! esp since i play cryo carries that dont actually need fav to charge their bursts (wriothesley and chongyun). and since its good on raiden and xiangling too, i feel its underrated. skyward blade is so nice when you have only one fav and multiple sword characters that need er. the base atk is high enough for bennett and you get a crap ton of er. still waiting on skyward harp tho…

this tier list is insane what am i looking at

Around the time this video was posted, I was able to get Skyward Blade and slapped it right on my Benny over Fav.

The context of the tier list is just off in general. Would really see this as more 'The game dropped a five star weapon onto either as a weapon banner loss or just via your acquaint fates, what should you do with it? How sad should you be?" People generally aren't pulling for these weapons specifically, they're generally a consolation prize. Would have preferred which standard weapons worth investing if they drop into lap?

Now I think you're just being a contrarian now man. Skyward harp and PWJS is such a good all around weapon. If not the best at the very least better than Aquila.

If i had gotten skyward blade before aquilla i would have never leveled aquilla for Bennett if i already had skyward because the extra attack doesn't seem worth it over the er. But because i got aquilla before it ill never level it because that just means my aquilla goes to no one.

As a F2P, my 3 skyward harps will never be refined and NEVER will be, I use it on Childe, other one with Ganyu, and the other one will be in the corner waiting for Lyney lmao.

I use skyward spine on my freeze team Rosaria, is it considered that bad? I like the extra crit rate, speed up normals for Rosaria and the high base attack.

On the subject of goat 5 star weapons. I find Primordial Jade Cutter to be quite great at just being usuable by pretty much everyone. I know full well that's it's not a standard banner weapon but it's one of those weapons that you don't exactly intentionally pull for. I pulled mine when I was pulling for the Xiphos Moonlight for my Kuki. I got Xiphos Moonlight as well as PJC and since then it was held by my Nilou but now it's held by my Furina. It may not be the BiS for anyone really, but its a great enough placeholder for many characters. You're a hp scaling dps/sub dps? - here's a 20% hp boost and a fxck ton of crit rate. You're an atk scaling dps/sub dps? - here's some atk and a fxck ton of crit rate. You're an hp scaling support? - here's 20% hp boost. One way or another, most sword users can find uses on any of the things this sword gives. Other than EM scalers or ER hungry ones of course. But those are weapons types that you can easily get. EM? craftable weapons like Iron Sting will be good enough. ER hungry? Fav is easy to get and is just the best at that. TLDR; even if you lose to this sword in a 50/50, you're not really losing.

I have never really disagreed with Zajef takes, but man do I disagree with this list, at almost every level.

I hope they release a physical carry sword user. It would be amazing to play I'm sure.

other than Aquila being too high and Skyward Spine too low, I mostly agree with this one. It's worth mentioning that Skyward Spine performs comparatively better than The Catch in Raiden teams where you don't use Bennett. I mostly play Raiden Taser at this point. But my GOAT is probably Lost Prayers because it's a good stat stick that also feels great in overworld, I'm a simp for anything that lets you go fast.

Dang.... now i know that furina's buff is dynamic, even for postsnapshot skill.

Well...all i can say is that this is one of the takes of all time

Puts Aquila BiS because only works on Bennett. Puts Skyward Pride in Low Tier because only works on Eula. The Tone-Deaf One-Sideness of Zajeff as of late has been astonishing...

I have a question to aquila favonia. I want to use it on Keqing and at the momant i use her with in a hyperbloom team. is it still good instead Lions roar or is it just a good stat stick?

Should I refine my skyward harp or keep separate? I have 2 harps, R3 Amos, and 2 Elegies for 5 star bows. R5 stringless as well.

zajoof: known favonius weapon propagandist aquila favonia: only standard 5 star with "fav" in its name zajoof: ranks aquila #1 COINCIDENCE??? I think not!

Skyward Blade > Aquila Favonia since it gives Bennet pretty decent ATK plus a lot of ER allowing us to get an HP piece to pair Bennet with Furina better and no i refuse to use another healer until an Electro that heals the whole team comes out i might consider it then or why Cloud Retainer depending on her kit and if she buffs my Anemo Main of choice

Everytime I make a mistake, I click on this video to remind me that even experts is sometimes stupid.

I love spine on cyno because it gives a bunch a different stats and he uses them all really well. high base atk is good, er is good because i don't use other electro, atk speed is great, 8% crit rate not bad, and the dmg passive can be consistently used. ik jade is better for him but I don't have it and spine is honestly putting in work.

He’s incorrect about The Unforged being on standard in the beginning; the second claymore after WGS is Skyward Pride

dynamic buffs is so interesting

Kinda disagree, since you get standard weapons by accident, and not by pulling on a banner, I think being better for multiple characters is better than being amazing on one For example, I use 3 teams in my account, only one of them uses Bennet (hypercarry fireworks, spread/agravate tighnari/yaemiko and Phys qiqi furina) Bennett isn't the goat anymore, he is just a xianling free win for xianling teams (and has uses for hypercarries) If I got Aquila, I would actually use it on qiqi over Bennet

Skyward atlas makes me think a physical catalyst could exist

Is aquilla really worh it tho? I have 2 accs and on one bennet runs it, on the 2nd he has skyward blade and that energy recharge is really valuable. Is like 100 base attack worth it.

Best thing about Skyward Spine is that I can slap it on Shenhe permanently, and I don't have to choose who will get Fav when I want to play freeze team (this is just how I cope with my luck).

why would you need fav on raiden? she gives so much energy to the whole team unless your other characters have literally 0 ER sub stats. i just feel like fav would be over kill.

that moment when the only 5* standard weapons i have are a skyward pride and TWO skyward spines

Even though I don't really use Bennet, isn't Skyward Blade a better choice for him, since it offers a very high base attack (though not higher than Aquila Favonia) and some ER%?

wait you are saying its possible to get beacon from normal banner?

My first 3 standard weapons were 2 Skyward Harps and an Amos bow. Then I got 2 Lost Prayers. All bows/books and no melee

Most of them are cope now even with Furina`s buff, Marechaussee Hunter and you remove Bennett The Fontaine craftables at R5 are insane and can replace the standard ATK% weapons The 3 crit weapons are good if you get them on accident, but not worth wishing for lol

actually pjws helped me more than aquila favonia to 36* on abyss i used it on raiden and hutao, ive only had 36* after i get pjws and its after the aquila. i think zajeff here is kinda biased here cuz hes really like bennet. pjws really wins i think cuz u can use it on muliple chara even its not the best in slots as f2p that didnt pull that much on weapon banner to got "best in slots weapon".

Lmao this dude tries so hard to be a contrarian simply for contrarian's sake. Aquila Favonia is horrible. Yes it could be a base attack stat stick on one character, but the passive is absolutely useless and it offers no energy. I would much rather use skyward blade on Bennet and take the slight hit to the buff than to use Aquila. Skyward Harp is the best 5 star standard weapon and it's not close. Its usually within the top 5 weapon of all these characters: Ganyu, Fischl, Linney, Kujou Sara, Childe, Yoimiya, Tighnari ect.

the annoying fav argument you're throwing around to belittle the other weapons when that exact same argument can be used on aquila lol

That initial Zajeff WGS Eula take so idiotic. It boggles my mind that he can't consider that you can be in aoe situations, hit a squishier enemy proc it and get the proc for the tankier enemy. he's so caught up in spewing garbage, and shitting on Eula that the most outlandish and negative scenario came to his mind first.

I wouldn't say Aquilia is the *best* 5 star standard weapon, I get it's great on bennet but who do I use the other 2 on? That's why i sayd Harp and Jade spear have more uses for dupes while aquilia almost does not.

Bro is minmaxing every insignificant shit and still doesn't even have a Catch R1 😂

as a F2P, getting 5* standard weapons are already a blessing for me HAHAHAHA

Noelle is fine with Skyward Pride. And now that her value went up with Furina, I think Pride's stock went up as well. It's still not great or anything, but I don't think that was addressed.

HuH!? I never knew "the Unforged" was part of the standard weapons??? I thought the 2 Standard Claymores were Wolf's Gravestone + Skyward Pride, not Wolf + Unforged??

15:55 Wait! Furina's buff bypasses snapshot? it increases Pryonado's damage even after cast? Is this real?

I have harp on fischl and it's so good for her 😁

I'm in so much pain listening about fav lance but not getting a single one in 2 years.

My first 3 standard banner weapons were all skyward spines. I would trade all 3 for a single random other standard weapon.

Have we tested furinas burst damage% buff is dynamic, in the sense, Xiangling Bursts (and snapshots stats), Furinas Buff gets higher -> XLs pyronado damage increases? "we're" not sure on reddit, thanks.

Lost prayer is great, with Dehya at day time and two more Anemo character i can run around super fast.

To me harp very good (Fishl, tignari) aquila good (Benny) atlas good (wanderer) pride decent (Beidou) pjws fine (now 2 unused, on raiden before el, on burst Zhongli)

Anyone know how the ballad of fjords compares to jade wing? I'm thinking for Hu Tao/cyno and other em winters.

Aren't Jade cutter and Elegy for the end standard weapons as well? Or am i trippin..

I've got two of every standard weapon except for bow and greatsword weapons. From Aqua & skyward sword, both catalyst, Xiao spear, and skyward spear. Mind you all by accident btw.

seems a little more personal tier list for zajeff but the discussion was good my tierlist would be- harp, pjws, lost prayer atlas, spine wgs, amos, aquilla, skyword blade pride crit batchest

Lost Prayer and Yanfei are a match made in heaven Idc what people say

i feel like most if not all of standard waepon have its uses. and i wish every *5 i got from standard banner is waepon tbh, and it gets better with refines

My only 5 star weapons from standard banner are the one Skyward Atlas I pulled in 1.0 and an r3 Skyward Pride. I got 2 of them in a row, then a Jean and then another Skyward Pride 😂 I hope I can get a Skyward Harp one day 😢

Please do a 5* weapon tier list man

my first standard 5 star was jade spear. a year later I pulled the character for the weapon

Skyward blade > Aquila ER >>>>>> physical dmg. The #1 burst support in the game of course ER is a better stat that physical dmg.

I got 4 5* weapon from standard banner, which I have permanent users for them so I don't consider any of them useless, unless I got a copy. Skyward blade (used to be benny's until I got aquila, now belongs to Djinn) Aquila (Benny) Skyward Pride (Ella) Skyward spine (Shenhe, fav is limited and more important for other characters)

3:22 this timestamp is iconic as well as what he says in it... Because I did "chamber 3" of the abyss, in "22 seconds" with klee. The team was, klee, xiangling, nahida and bennett.