Zastava's M90: The Serbian M70 Updated to 5.56mm
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Zastava has been making AK rifles in Serbia (formerly Yugoslavia) since the 1960s, and today has a number of offerings made for the commercial market. One of the recent ones is the M90 (or more specifically, the PAPM90PS). This is a 5.56mm rifle fundamentally based on the M70 pattern. It uses Serbian magazines (not interchangeable with other types of 5.56mm AK magazine) and comes with a combination of modern Hogue and Magpul furniture as well as a left-side optics mounting rail. It does also include as 3-position gas regulator like on the Yugoslav M76. Several military M70 features have been removed for importation, including the bayonet lug and night sights.
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@pathfinder2reality 2 жыл бұрын
"It might be a bit overgassed" Ian picking up brass in onother County.
@mihailosaranovic5444 2 жыл бұрын
More like the brass goblin travelling to another county only to realize he's been chasing steel casings.
@asdasd-ty9se 2 жыл бұрын
*another
@sharonrigs7999 2 жыл бұрын
My SVT40 yeets brass into another time zone
@KarlEller 2 жыл бұрын
Another county? I think some of those cases reached orbit.
@moistjohn 2 жыл бұрын
Are we talking standard ak brass launching or is it closer to the g3 space program?
@ilyaskr8048 2 жыл бұрын
Black handguard: exist Ian: Is it tactical?
@gingergorilla695 2 жыл бұрын
Answer: NO. Wood furniture superiority forever!
@deptusmechanikus7362 2 жыл бұрын
black plastic is extremely cringe
@samholdsworth3957 2 жыл бұрын
Black furniture lives matter
@samholdsworth3957 2 жыл бұрын
No wooden pistol grip tho 🤷🏼♂️
@ticklemesenpai447 2 жыл бұрын
then there is Ian's custom auto 8 where he puts a polymer handguard on a classic arm.
@rediius 2 жыл бұрын
Slight correction, all the way down on an AK safety lever is traditionally semi auto, and the middle position is full auto. But it obviously doesn't matter if it's a semi only trigger so it looks like the factory has decided that you didn't need the long throw. That's a thoughtful touch!
@rediius 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, and speaking of the thoughtful safety, you can leave it on safe and pull the charging handle. The extractor will come back far enough to eject the chambered round but not far enough to pick up the next one still in the magazine, so you can clear a Zastava rifle without dropping the mag or turning the safety off. The Serbs put some serious engineering into their designs!
@shawnr771 2 жыл бұрын
@@rediius now that is a pretty cool feature.
@stevenbobbybills 2 жыл бұрын
Was hoping someone would point this out.
@michaelnolan6054 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always liked the philosophy of- "If I need full auto, I need it NOW! (1 st position after safe)" If I have the time, semi-auto will wait.
@stevenbobbybills 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnolan6054 it's actually the exact opposite. Semi is all the way down because it isn't a fine motor movement, it's just a full push. Full-auto in the middle is intended to be a deliberate action. The idea was that a soldier under pressure wouldn't accidentally engage full auto, as full auto is usually not the best solution and will make a panicked solider waste ammo, making them more likely to end up with an empty weapon at the worst possible time.
@t.maximilianwaechter3208 2 жыл бұрын
I see you are familiar with the red army approved AK maintenance technique, "Smack it against a rock until it works"
@secretpandalord 2 жыл бұрын
Good old "percussive maintenance".
@han5vk 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretpandalord That mag was not a skookum choocher.
@mikehipperson 2 жыл бұрын
Or a Brum (Birmingham UK) screwdriver! (a large hammer or mallet!)
@MrGreghome 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretpandalord I tried doing that to my grandpa last summer. They sent to my jail for it.
@hippoace 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNOmktaU197KYJs.html watch @11:15, russian magic trick, self firing ak
@member5488 2 жыл бұрын
The empty cases looked like they were being ejected on an arc that will take them close to the ISS.
@juliancantarelli 2 жыл бұрын
It double as an "Anti Drone" gun.
@Georgewilliamherbert 2 жыл бұрын
They almost looked like they were bouncing off Ian’s hat to me. But hard to tell.
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that they were hitting his hat, but realized that was the muzzle blast
@PitchBlackYeti 2 жыл бұрын
The Serbian infantry version of "Schraege Musik" system
@kiriusview9251 2 жыл бұрын
Sovijet Space-Program resurgent.
@newevolution 2 жыл бұрын
"A bit overgassed" yeah, it's WHIPPING those cases across the range.
@codycigar6542 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, my NPAP M70 whips cases across the range as well lmao.
@DRockDreamin 2 жыл бұрын
Same with mine. Even on setting 1...
@SnekPlskin 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing its got an adjustable gas block
@mikejohnson555 4 ай бұрын
Honestly it just has very aggressive extractor, it doesn't even have to be very over gassed to do that. I practice with snap caps indoor with my m90, just pulling the charging handle back to eject one will launch it across my living room into the ceiling, and I am not slamming it back to be clear, it just has a insane ejection system. There is a downside though, the really aggressive extraction tends to dent up cases, not good if you reload, but on the flip side, very reliable and isn't going to have failures to eject.
@northernu.s.a3995 2 жыл бұрын
OMG!!! ANOTHER ZASTAVA VIDEO! BEST TWO WEEKS EVER!
@luckygunnerx30 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an M90 a few weeks ago and it has quickly became my Favorite AK. After break in you can run it on Gas setting 1 all the time and it is extremely soft shooting. I ditched the slant brake as well. For mags Ive used all the Zastava mags , Ac Unity, Galil mags, and circle 10 without issue. Shooting is suppressed is awesome as well. It might be the quietest 5.56 gun I’ve ever shot
@ShowMeYourLizardFace 2 жыл бұрын
Galil mags dont work for me, they seem to sit a bit too low.
@luckygunnerx30 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShowMeYourLizardFace luck of the draw it seems
@jakesoros2376 2 жыл бұрын
What changes did you make to your Circle 10 magazines for them to fit?
@luckygunnerx30 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakesoros2376 I didn’t have to make any changes they are just a little tight
@jakesoros2376 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckygunnerx30 Really? Wow.
@GeassX 2 жыл бұрын
"A little over-gassed" *Meanwhile on the ISS* "Are those spent steel casings?"
@AlenB29 2 жыл бұрын
now we know how serbs have shot down the f-117 nighthawk it all makes sense now
@royal011 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlenB29 ha ha ha, as a Serbian, I can tell you that that was just done by chance, or better said, a statistical error :-)
@AlenB29 2 жыл бұрын
@@royal011 that was done by a skilled anti air crew :3
@neb6005 2 жыл бұрын
“its annoying so we’ll” *Yeets Stock* “get rid of that”
@SerbianMenace 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this gun! My first ak I bought was a zastava z-pap m70, since I am of Serbian heritage and it felt like a point of pride to have a Serbian made gun
@stevev1758 2 жыл бұрын
ditto for me
@ajack1312 Жыл бұрын
I just recently bought a ZPAP M92 for my first AK pistol and I love it. Zastava makes a damn good gun, the thicker receiver is awesome. Thing's built like a tank.
@spooksmalloy 2 жыл бұрын
It's not overgassed, it's a combination infantry weapon with anti-air capabilities
@yamahawarrior89 7 ай бұрын
Mine was overgassed, had to create a custom 5 position gas regulator to reduce the overgassing, especially suppressed: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9Ofkrt73Nq5YKc.html
@TheSkipjack95 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm just not sure I'm comfortable with tactical furniture on an AK". Or to put it another way : "nyet, rifle is fine"
@Elohim100 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we get it, ha ha.
@thedumbguncollector5546 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely get the steel mags, the plastic ones are all over the place in terms of quality. The metal mags lock up like a sig 550.
@samholdsworth3957 2 жыл бұрын
You know *dumb* and *gun collector* shouldn't go together 🤣
@willybober2 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I got the plastic ones and they don't sit real happy
@toddbrooks515 2 жыл бұрын
Do Arsenal or AC Unity Mags work in these m90’s?
@belyayevsfox4753 2 жыл бұрын
Or use a 3D printer to make your own mags
@thedumbguncollector5546 2 жыл бұрын
@@belyayevsfox4753 I’m sure I couldn’t make any mags I would trust
@MosoKaiser 2 жыл бұрын
That pre-intro segment is basically Ian going "njet, rifle is fine". :D
@OlujaDoTokija 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, he left the Magpul grip on it instead of an authentic AK pistol grip
@Yenecol 2 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons... ah yes, Ian shows me weapons I forgot to buy! Silly me, I go to gun shop now.
@otaconarcadia7372 2 жыл бұрын
That was a good opening, I did not expect the cut after the title card.
@iohan2801 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
Failure to Feed: Hit with rock Failure to Eject: Also hit with rock Failure to Fire: Is AK, this doesn't happen.
@AtlasJotun 2 жыл бұрын
TulAmmo's over-set primers beg to differ! Although we won't have to worry about that much longer :.(
@cnlbenmc 2 жыл бұрын
Laughs in InRangeTV AK Mud Test.
@allday1377 2 жыл бұрын
@@AtlasJotun i shoot old yugo ammo ppu from 50 60 that was brought from war and those primers are dog shit
@krkan5241 2 жыл бұрын
@@allday1377 They are dog shit because they are like from middle of 20th century...newer ones are much better and soooo good
@KBKriechbaum 2 жыл бұрын
Classic example of what stereotypes are doing to the peoples understanding of the physical world. The AK is just another rifle that happens to be widespread, because it is simple and cheap. However, there is other firearms that supass its reliability.
@LUR1FAX 2 жыл бұрын
Zastava sure makes a TON of neat stuff!
@AP-qs2zf 2 жыл бұрын
they make a lot of garbage
@flameuptheherbwoofdownthebeer Жыл бұрын
@@AP-qs2zf If you can make something better, go on.
@nikolapetrovic4814 2 жыл бұрын
I used the 7.62 M70ab2 with folding stock in the Serbian army. Never had any problems with it, no jams or anything, always clean it right after use. Serbian army is using homemade Prvi Partizan (PPU) ammo.
@eyzmin Жыл бұрын
PPU is great ammo, we use it in the US all the time, high quality brass and affordable
@NemyacX Жыл бұрын
@@eyzmin PPU 7.62x39 is like 50% more than tula 7.62, it is not affordable
@robrob9050 26 күн бұрын
You mean domestic PPU ammo?😊
@nikolapetrovic4814 26 күн бұрын
@@robrob9050 yeah, domestic. Homemade and domestic is the same word in Serbian
@robrob9050 25 күн бұрын
@@nikolapetrovic4814 You can't speak English as Serbian 😆
@michaels5210 2 жыл бұрын
Picked up an M90 myself. It’s my first foray into AK’s and I love the hell out of it. Haven’t had any problems with any of the steel I’ve put through it
@shonemumy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm quite sure it is overgassed by design -when it gets a bit clogged and dirty, it'll run perfectly.
@mtnbound2764 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, just put a few thousand of those wolf steel cases though it, itll start to break in!
@shonemumy 2 жыл бұрын
@@mtnbound2764 Brass only. For reasons unknown, it really hates steel.
@zachmartinez7436 2 жыл бұрын
To me steel just runs a little dirtier because brass creates a way better seal and doesn't leave nearly as much residue so I think over time the steel casings end up clogging it a bit.
@shomiiii96 Жыл бұрын
@@shonemumy I'll quote a guy from above... 'Serb assault rifles use brass-cased lead-core ammo, which results in improved accuracy, better terminal ballistics and a 100 feet faster bullet than the steel cased one.'
@aregularperson7573 2 жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus has blessed us with another video
@simulatedbob9796 2 жыл бұрын
I remember some video ago Ian saying "Please don't show this to Brandon Herera!". Ever since I really wish the two would do a colab video even if it's just for fun and giggles.
@DDdrifter 2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely and would like to suggest having Ian review the "Krinkov" that was "the worst" and Brandon fixed.
@antesosic1600 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we all want that
@Gronbar6 2 жыл бұрын
Herera is a poser.
@Martinlegend 2 жыл бұрын
there are lot of other Ytbers that i would like to see with ian on one screen - Brandon is nice but i like Garand Thumb more - the historian and the shooter seems to be a nice combo
@smackarel7 2 жыл бұрын
What would be cool would be Brandon seeing Ian's true Kalashnabren, a BREN gun rechambered for 7.62×39
@Sgt.MajorDani 2 жыл бұрын
U always make me happy when u play around with serbian or swedish weapons =) Cause im half / half and both countrys make good arms. Thank you
@_blento_2637 2 жыл бұрын
Zastava AK guns were also called a female “gypsy”. In Yugo wars back in early 1990’s, we (Croats) were all looking to get hand on Serbian AK as it was extremely reliable compared to Romanian and Hungarian AK 47 versions. If you would shoot two full magazines from either Romanian or Hungarian and press the barrel against the wall, the barrel wall band. That was not the case with the Serbian model. Later in the war we got some guns from Argentina and (East) Germany and a few other countries but nothing of that beat the reliability of AK models.
@guypierson5754 2 жыл бұрын
This is the truth to AK. The good ones are the best guns in their niche. The bad ones are so bad it goes thru funny into dangerous.
@HeartPumper 2 жыл бұрын
I may kinda upset someone, but coming also from a former "commie land". We considered everything Yugo, as to almost with a par with the Western stuff.
@altergreenhorn 2 жыл бұрын
You got quite a lot of Yugo AK from Slovenia back in late 91 and also in the 92. I personally saw few shipment thru Macelj and Dubrava. Croatia itself had also a lot of Yugo AK in warehouses for the home guard units unfortaly Croatian government allowed Yugoslav military to size them back in the 1990 early 1991. Majority of those guns was later (2012/13) shipped from Croatia to the Syria on the US request.
@VojislavMoranic 2 жыл бұрын
@@altergreenhorn My father was in Vukovar and he says officers from both sides used to sell each other shit by the truckload.
@alexandruianu8432 2 жыл бұрын
That's because AKM pattern guns have thin barrels to save weight. It's considered a good tradeoff on any modern rifle. Zastava kept the old AK pattern barrels which are closer to LMG or sniper rifle barrels.
@geodkyt 2 жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of relying on US made magazine parts for 922(r) compliance. Even though I've never heard of anyone getting jammed up by 922(r) because they used the "wrong" magazine from their stash. (For that matter, I don't recall hearing of any cases where an individual ran into 922(r) enforcement, unless the charge was added as a cherry on top of a while cornucopia of other gun charges and they happened to find out he had too many "scary imported parts" after they'd already siezed the gun for the other violations. AFAIK, that particular code section has only been used to force importers and distributors to change configurations, or as an easily disposable "plea bargain" charge to add leverage to the prosecution in pressure a plea deal.)
@TheFanatical1 2 жыл бұрын
I asked Ian about this on a previous video and he said he'd never heard of anyone getting strung up for it either. Does seem like a kitchen sink sort of scenario is the only one.
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
It's a sales thing, the BATFE only demands 9.22r compliance from the importer. My 5.45 ACE came with a Magpul magazine that will never be taken out of its wrapper.
@gsrawson 2 жыл бұрын
The mags are made in Serbia by Tora, so that's not it
@blaiseuriarte8296 2 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone let the feds inspect the inside of their firearm?
@boomerisadog3899 2 жыл бұрын
@@blaiseuriarte8296 They'll do what they want with them once they seize them. You can try to stop them but they'll be happy to kill you, your dog, and as many members of your family as they can get away with.
@NotDave_x 2 жыл бұрын
They seem like great rifles, but the magazines also seem like they are a consistent point of failure. Would be interested in what you think about the steel mags for them.
@toddbrooks515 2 жыл бұрын
Do Arsenal mags work in them? What about AC Unity?
@toddbrooks515 2 жыл бұрын
@ They also have a clear version
@nitrosophelin 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddbrooks515 there are some videos here on KZfaq that test arsenal and beryl mags in this rifle and from those I've seen, those mags work but are a little tight but seem to work just fine. I'd do some more research on them first though
@toddbrooks515 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitrosophelin Thanks. I want one of these but don’t want to have to buy proprietary mags. I’ll probably just pay extra for a SAM5.
@gsrawson 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddbrooks515 my M90 feeds from damn near every mag I slap into it. The only ones I don't think it would work with would be Chinese ones, but Circle 10, AC Unity, Romanian WASR3/SAR3, Polish WBP and Beryl. They all work just fine. I'd take this over any 5.56 AK offering currently out there, and I used to own an Arsenal.
@whoisgtsdk 2 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant use of the "rock or something", magazine repair!
@plumbbobslim9313 2 жыл бұрын
When I bought my M70 ZPAP, I bought the one I did specifically because of the grain pattern of the butt stock. It has some beautiful grain structure in it.
@kevinthacker9866 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian, for sharing your knowledge! My grandson is a left hander, and you've helped me understand how to help him!
@GrendalTheBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these last week, only 180 rounds through it so far (brass case, half 5.56, half 223). Accuracy is as good as me with irons, mine is straight, requiring only a slight adjustment of the front sight to zero. It's also been 100% reliable on gas setting 2 with both a steel mag and the included plastic mag. I think Ian's problems are with that mag, seems like a lemon. I agree it's over gassed, haven't tried setting 1 yet but setting 2 seems too much. The manual recommends setting 3 for the first few hundred rounds, which for mine is certainly excessive though maybe not with Tula 223. I might have to copy Ian and get the wood furniture, very pretty like that :).
@GrendalTheBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
Small update, put another 60 rounds through it yesterday on setting 1 without bothering to clean it after the last 180. It ran fine, 0 malfunctions and was far softer shooting. Shot 5.56 only this time. Once again I used brass cased, since brass is currently cheaper than steel due to people being dumb.
@420BulletSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Steel, wood and bakelite. The only ingredients suitable for my AK recipes.
@bebop_557 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Ian and Matt Haught are just making videos together now
@briarus1000 2 жыл бұрын
5 states away and im pretty sure those empty cases hit me.
@scienceguy8 2 жыл бұрын
If Ian thinks tactical polymer furniture on an AK is sacrilege, nobody tell him about vintage design lever action rifles with M-LOC fore-ends!
@gsrawson 2 жыл бұрын
Owning one of these rifles, I can attest to the fact that most 5.56 AK magazine will infact work. Bulgarian, Romanian WASR3/SAR3, AC Unity, Polish WBP and Beryl etc. The only mags I found to not work are Chinese and Promag
@theloudestgun 2 жыл бұрын
The wood furniture looks great!
@ivanstepanovic1327 2 жыл бұрын
This thing is a safe buy. It works just fine. Just get a proper working magazine. Also, I do recommend checking the M21 and later models, they are totally awesome and designed in 5.56 from the very start.
@Joe3pops Жыл бұрын
The Cypriot National Guard standard issue along the line of the UN buffer zone was a Yugo or Serbian AK variant in 7.62x51mm in the late 1980s. Seen with 20 round magazines.
@LeeThule 2 жыл бұрын
When the bolt is held open by the follower can it be locked in position by flipping the safety on? If so it would simplify removing the spent mag and dropping the bolt on a new mag.
@five5105 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@ethinos2719 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Krebs improved safety on my ZPAP and the bolt needs to be all the way to the rear to engage the safety cutout. The follower tab doesn't stop the bolt far back enough for what you want.
@LeeThule 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethinos2719 Thanks for the answer Ethinos. I guess the AK manual of arms was never deigned to be high-speed low-drag.
@asdasd-ty9se 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeeThule it was, for one mag at a time
@tristanhodgden4286 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethinos2719 would be cool if some companies made the safety work with last round hold open mags as a bolt release
@gamersunite7968 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased one of these this week and it's a well made firearm. The only gripe I have with it is the magazines getting chewed up in the magwell when inserting or removing
@rebeccaa2782 2 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest Yugo military photos I've seen is a Yugo paratrooper in the 80's equipped with what looks like a Sturmgewehr. Does anyone know more about this? I k ow Ian's done Sturmgewehr's before but not in the forgotten area of them in Yugoslavian military
@araneus32 2 жыл бұрын
Yes some units,mainly paratroopers, used confiscated Sturmgewers after WWII. The Germans had left a lot of equipment and it was used by Yugoslav army
@ZP1993 2 жыл бұрын
From what I've heard,a number of STG44 rifles were captured by the Yugoslav partisans at the end of WW2,and they were later used by the 63rd paratrooper battalion of the Yugoslav army until the 1980s when they were replaced by the M70 (Yugoslav version of the AK),Yugoslavia then sold them to some countries in the middle east.
@arboreahyla 2 жыл бұрын
Tunisia I think
@strahinjastevic7480 2 жыл бұрын
@@arboreahyla Libya. Some were even seen in Syria/Iraq
@strahinjastevic7480 2 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough PPU still makes ammo for those. Yes they kinda have a thing for niche calibres but i dont understand how it would be worth it
@GeneralRamstein 2 жыл бұрын
Ian. you need to get the Warsaw stock. I threw that set from zastava on my M90 and it totally changed the look of the rifle.
@ivicamilosavljevic4706 2 жыл бұрын
Just to Salute You from the Kragujevac/Serbia - hometown of Zastava arms ;)
@tynado1173 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked one up. I really like it. Great timing with new Russian ammo ban
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why Ian was shooting it with banned ammo. I always wondered about brass cases in AK's. My SKS was notorious about tearing the heads off brass cases on extraction. Only ever shot steel in my 5.45 guns. I have 200 rounds of brass cased 5.45x39 but I haven't shot any of it.
@gingergorilla695 2 жыл бұрын
@Starac Pajsije and hopefully when we start buying so much Serbian 🇷🇸 ammo, they'll flood the market more than the Russians ever could
@sharonrigs7999 2 жыл бұрын
@Otac Tadej I love PPU ammo. The brass reloads well and last a long time
@nikk5084 2 жыл бұрын
Love how the monsoon is making the desert so green
@thriftshopper23 2 жыл бұрын
I saw an M90 exactly like the tactical one at my local gun store. Fell in love with it but wanted an M70 so I bought one and set it up identically (minus the tango down grip that I actually prefer to mp. I absolutely love it and can't wait to continue the build. I want a Midwest Industries handguard but have not been able to find one in stock.
@cappuccinokripperinokriop7436 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is great AK. I wish zastava sold to other markets and not only US.
@gingergorilla695 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, what other markets?
@Scathach666 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, dont you know the usa is the only country that exists on the entire globe?
@demonprinces17 2 жыл бұрын
What other markets
@cappuccinokripperinokriop7436 2 жыл бұрын
Im from Croatia and zastava only sells Hunting garbage here.
@KristianHerdi 2 жыл бұрын
They don't sell M90 in Serbia even.Especially in that configuration because pistol grips and 30 round mags are illegal here.
@monkegames6133 2 жыл бұрын
Kill one enemy with the bullet - kill one friendly with the casing
@azanjac 2 жыл бұрын
The "friendly" was a western spy anyways.
@AP-qs2zf 2 жыл бұрын
@@azanjac No it was a serb. So no foul :)
@Mihailop21 Жыл бұрын
I work in company who made sights for M70 and others Zastava rifles. We truly make a effort to made high quality parts for M70...
@TreacherousFennec 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think anyone can replace the quality jokes and detailed videos Ian pulls out.
@PltOffPPrune 2 жыл бұрын
Is that Ian's shotgunning mate behind the camera at the end? We need more collabs with him in them.
@ryankozarich6968 Жыл бұрын
Magpul needs to up their ak mag game...
@bennettcastleberry1658 2 жыл бұрын
I just ran my M90 at the range for the first time and had the gas set on 3 for the first 200 rounds then set it down to 2 for regular use. The rifle did have a feed issue or two that I believed to be the mag but after I set the gas to 2 the rifle ate everything with no issues. I guess it needs a little tough love at first to settle in. Great vid gun Jesus, keep it up.
@FreedomTimes4130 2 жыл бұрын
Getting one of these next week. Can't wait. I wanna put a wood handgaurd on mine too
@MajGenAtlas 2 жыл бұрын
Ian are you able to explain the different side rail standards on AK patterns?
@F1ghteR41 2 жыл бұрын
@Otac Tadej The front grip with little gripping surface when you're wearing gloves and no chrome in the barrel? Dubious improvements, I'd say.
@brianhoxworth3881 2 жыл бұрын
This is chrome lined I believe.
@F1ghteR41 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianhoxworth3881 They only added chrome lining in their most recent commercial models, as far as I've heard, although don't quote me on M21 and M17/M19.
@Voraciouscommentary 2 жыл бұрын
@@F1ghteR41 M21’s are chrome lined. Zastava switched to chrome lined everything in the 80’s when the OG M70’s started rotting away with around 2 years of use with Serbian ground forces. Robert forbus has a handful of posts on the AK files explaining the multitude of other factors to the switch of chrome lining but ammo was a huge one aswell. Yugo M67 is the most corrosive 7.62 I have ever seen actually fielded and same with the Yugo 9MM ammunition they used in their handguns.
@F1ghteR41 2 жыл бұрын
@@Voraciouscommentary Ah, good to know, thanks a lot.
@sethy5136 2 жыл бұрын
Lol i like the wood look alot more too. Gotta admit the folding stock is alot more useful than the fixed stock
@chrisspencer6502 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you're an operator however of like most Ak owners you mag dump into trash or run round the 🏜️ or jungle in high-speed low drag flip flops a solid stock should affect you too much.
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
While you "can" shoot it with the stock folded, I would argue the fixed setup is more useful for the end user. Folding stock is useful for logistics and mobility, not for shooting...
@aggrodkreg4321 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisspencer6502 I like folding stocks for storage. Having lived in apartments and barracks at various points in my life, you learn to appreciate space, and how to maximize it.
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
@@aggrodkreg4321 you don't keep your rifle in a safe?
@aggrodkreg4321 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichardCranium321 yes, but there was a time in my life I didn't have the space for a safe that could store full-length rifles. I also have logistical challenges that most people living in the mainland do not.
@TheWoodyjeep 2 жыл бұрын
Other 5.56 mags work perfectly with some light file work. Have several circle 10’s that have just enough filing to run in Zastavas but still runs great in other platforms.
@jefferythomas4414 2 жыл бұрын
That adjustable gas block would be a nice aftermarket improvement on my PSL.
@calvingreene90 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't look like it would be too difficult to add a forth gas setting or partially plug one.
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that there was not a "0" setting for rifle grenades. Those are useful for shooting suppressed even though it turns the gun into a straight pull bolt action.
@vasilije94 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbmail545 There is no 0 setting because its not full military rifle but cut down version for civilian market.
@mafiosomemer3730 2 жыл бұрын
The NP variant can use STANAG when you want to with shoot Vietnam-era 20 round mags
@austinarvanitis8226 2 жыл бұрын
THAMK YOU IAN !!! I know they’re a numerous amount of people that believe in the same. Like so many others, I just appreciate the craftsmanship and the classic look of wood furniture on ak’s and even some of the early AR’s. P.S. your channel is also the reason I had help in finding my CETME from Israel and I do very appreciate all the hard work you put into your channel !!!
@loupiscanis9449 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ,Ian .
@slavicgondola1817 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a video on the Zastava m85 as well they’re a really cool take on the “krink”
@StefanBlagojevic 2 жыл бұрын
Unicycles 😲? Unicycles!!! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣
@davidrodgers9800 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with how the gun is gassed I've been running it on setting one and it runs great and still chucks the cases , recoil is much more pleasant. Way nicer rifle then my wasr3 for sure.
@MinionFornificator 2 жыл бұрын
That crack in the bottom handguard.
@Guhonter 2 жыл бұрын
That gun sounds so very nice and the recoil is butter smooth! What great gun!
@0815Skorpio 2 жыл бұрын
"If it cant handle the steel, it doesnt deserve the brass" - AK Daddy
@fatefinger 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad there will be no more steel.
@aggrodkreg4321 2 жыл бұрын
I like the MOE stock over the Zhukov. Bonesteel makes a better folding stock if you absolutely need one for your AK with minimal effort.
@bombsawaylemay770 2 жыл бұрын
Bonesteel is vastly superior to the Magpul Zhukov. It's worth the wait time.
@boomerisadog3899 2 жыл бұрын
@@bombsawaylemay770 I won't argue that it's better but the Zukov is cheaper than Bonesteel and works well for how I use my ak. I don't much like the Magpul MOE ak stock.
@bombsawaylemay770 2 жыл бұрын
@@boomerisadog3899 try it out, you will probably like it. The Zhukov I had a few years ago had plastic locking lugs for the folding mechanism that wore out. Bonesteel is metal, absolutely solid lockup.
@aggrodkreg4321 2 жыл бұрын
@@ADUSN there's wait times now? Jesus.
@samuelneese482 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm that longer sight radius is a nice benefit of the longer barrel. Glad that they pushed the front sight forward rather than just extending the barrel past the standard AK sight.
@dtheguy 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a review and test fire in the save videos
@maximusmeridius6409 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love it when gun Jesus gets openly opinionated. I like how you have your rifle set up. Also magpul pistol grip is a win.
@randybaham750 2 жыл бұрын
I carried an M21 Zastava In Iraq for a little over two years. I surprisingly enjoyed it.
@alimohammed3071 2 жыл бұрын
Why was that
@randybaham750 2 жыл бұрын
@@alimohammed3071 Not sure I understand your question but it was what we were issued as contractors. I found it to be a nice compact weapon with reasonable accuracy and seemed reliable.
@AP-qs2zf 2 жыл бұрын
Its a crap rifle. :)
@aStranger_ 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man that mic on the cam is C R I S P Y sounds so good.
@jasonz7788 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for the great work
@vinniysavoy1085 2 жыл бұрын
As a lefty I do like the folder. Perhaps I cheek different than you do.
@crunchysuperman 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Zhukov's on several of my AKs with no issues.
@raifsevrence 2 жыл бұрын
Height probably plays a big role in that equation. If you extend the stock, you won't be putting your cheek against the hinge. I'm 6'2" and the length of pull feels the most comfortable to me when it is fully extended.
@dlemonade312 2 жыл бұрын
Ian…How did you not mention the M90 NP that takes AR mags when giving the history of M90 imports?
@hambrabai1256 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the M90NP was imported in incredibly small numbers. It's very likely that the entirety of the M90NP production totaled less than 2000 units.
@SuperScopeDog 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I like the Zhukov S stock with the cheek rest when I use my POSP-1 scope and the adjustable length of pull is nice too.
@budgibson185 2 жыл бұрын
The pic in the thumbnail looks like the AK’s some of the yards used. They cut the butt stock off right at the thickening point! Rather neat
@williamdevlin5439 2 жыл бұрын
all the way down is typically "Semi auto" not Full auto. the center position it is in now is typically "full auto" but without the parts it's only semi
@Breakfast_and_Bullets 2 жыл бұрын
I was coming to say the same thing. I've never seen one where middle is semi and down is full auto.
@mladjireferent9625 2 жыл бұрын
The M21 is heavy as hell, a bit crude but has 0 recoil and is super accurate.
@gingergorilla695 2 жыл бұрын
So the average ak/akm but with an accuracy boost
@ProKILLER91J 2 жыл бұрын
M21 je losa kopija vektora r4, ovo je iz familije m80 i m85 I nema veze sa m21
@mladjireferent9625 2 жыл бұрын
@@ProKILLER91J Виш да га помену човек у клипу.
@ProKILLER91J 2 жыл бұрын
@@mladjireferent9625 nez zasto spominje m21, M90 je unapredjena verzija M80 I M80A, i ovo je stvarno dobra puska, steta nije u prodaji kod nas, dok sugavi m21 moze da se kupi...
@mladjireferent9625 2 жыл бұрын
@@ProKILLER91J искрено, ја сам дужио 21 и скроз ми је океј била. кундак је предугачак и она облога је ужас после првог оквира, али никад није закочила нити било шта друго.
@szabib2144 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, and the mags are last round bolt hold open. This rifle is beautiful. An stock up on all the steel case you can.
@Bojangles6 2 жыл бұрын
They advertise a vented piston, also a takeoff from the m76. I was hoping you would detail that specific modification.
@zhiliangtay5624 2 жыл бұрын
Is it true that these Zastava guns lack a chrome-lined barrel for more accuracy but less resistance to wear? I heard it once but I'm not entirely sure
@aggrodkreg4321 2 жыл бұрын
The old NPAPs and OPAPs definitely didn't. But the literature for the newer ZPAPs says they're chromed.
@andrew2353 2 жыл бұрын
Older 7.62 Zastava AKs did lack chrome lining, however the 5.56 ones have always had it and newer 7.62 have chromed bores.
@gingergorilla695 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrew2353 yay!
@americanmilitiaman88 2 жыл бұрын
New ones are CHF and chrome lined
@GrendalTheBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
@@americanmilitiaman88 confirming chrome lined cold hammer forged
@Friedbrain11 2 жыл бұрын
I like the wood furniture. It looks right for that rifle. That shoots nicely:) I would buy it the way you have it set up. Looks great and shoots great by the look of it.
@luke8995 2 жыл бұрын
I have had major issues with the steel reinforced feed lip mag. My zpap gen 2 mags rip through ammo with no issues. I ordered ac unity mags to try as well. The gen 3 mag sucks awefully.
@razieldrakis 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the original zastava metal 5.56mm magazines opposed to the plastic ones. It could do without that plastic buttstock and replace it with a metal folding triangle stock instead.
@gingergorilla695 2 жыл бұрын
Metal magazines and wood furniture for life
@GrendalTheBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
@@gingergorilla695 indeed, also, triangle folders are terrible to shoot much like the underfolders.
@ethinos2719 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrendalTheBeasty At least you can get stock pads for triangle folders to make them a bit more comfy to use. Like the ones Rifle Dynamics sells with the integrated zippered pocket.
@strahinjastevic7480 2 жыл бұрын
Trianglular folders are more of a russian thing, I wouldn't be comfortable having it on a "yugo", then again not all ppl find that a problem
@justtoolleeow304 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take the dumb tacticool AK Ian doesn't like. Zukhov stock looks so good
@josephrizzo7500 2 жыл бұрын
Yep my follower was getting stuck too. I found if I feed the ammo in towards the middle of the mag then back, it seemed to help.
@jareddenison8180 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Was eyeballing this gun for a month now. What was the gas setting at. I know they recommend “3” for first 100 or so rounds
@MrTrombonator 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering, what if you make a cutout in a safety lever in the place where the follower holds the bolt open, wouldnt you be able to engage the safety reload the mag and then drop the bolt with the safety?
@fiddagracepaws5241 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer how it looks with the polymer/rubber furnite, not only does it look way better, but it scratches my itch of old meets new aesthetic Then again I like that one modernised tan luger and the ak-100 series Plus I just like tacticool stuff
@ottenstar4901 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of quality 👌
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
That looks like the magazine I got for my 5.45 Galil ACE. It's a 5.56 magazine but it fits the ACE fine and allows the bolt to be held open for cooling on the range. A feature that the 5.45 ACE sorely lacks. It is marked TORA where your magazine seems to have no marking. I use it just for the BHO follower. I've never tried to see how many 5.45 cartridges it will take before the follower jams. Probably not very many since that magazine had a follower jam with .223.
@yonahga5731 2 жыл бұрын
An AK without wooden furniture is like borscht without a dollop of sour cream, it's still an AK but it's nowhere near as good.
@ayebraine 2 жыл бұрын
I think SAG AKs are great, they are a Russian company who clearly gets it and makes modern usable AKs for athletes and LE/military users alike.
@zachhogan7865 2 жыл бұрын
From a practical perspective for me the basic furniture on AKs is usually a little too short not to have something like a ZenitCo hand guard and stock to help extend the length of pull but that's all dependent on intention and training I suppose. Wood furniture does look pretty dope though
@mengx94 2 жыл бұрын
But does it have a glory hole for a cleaning kit??
@RadioMartyT1B 2 жыл бұрын
Ian's contempt is implacable... Tell us how you really feel, Ian.
@darthmartinez 2 жыл бұрын
The bayonet lug would be in between the front sight block and gas block. it was a separate little ring that was pinned on the barrel.
@jmlee737 2 жыл бұрын
God this channel is just amazing
@alancox5777 2 жыл бұрын
Wow really. That’s why the aks in Kosovo had that little button to remove the top cover and the Iraqi and afghan ones didn’t 🤓. Every day is a school day
@johnpenwell6402 2 жыл бұрын
I was dissembling my M70 the other day and totally brain farted about that button and spent way longer than I’d like to admit trying to figure out why my recoil spring rail was jammed up. What’s funny is that they don’t put the button on the M91.
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
That seems like a nice enough feature, I'm surprised no one else does it.
@ayebraine 2 жыл бұрын
@Sauli Luolajan-Mikkola All AKs since the late AK-74 and AK-74M have a "hook" on the top surface of the recoil spring disassembly button, which prevents it from being depressed and cover removed in any situation except when you purposefully pull the cover up. It's a 2-cent solution to the problem compared with this Serbian one. For GP launcher, an additional button on the top surface of the button itself was added in the 90s, and now apparently there is a newer version with a latch on the side of the button (even less likely to be pressed accidentally) PLUS the hook on top. (KZfaq keeps killing my comment with links, so sorry for the lack of photos)