It wasn't fear for her powers, rather fear for the person he cares for the most succoming to ultimate sin of murder and be condemned to hell for eternity

@@phantom1a2 hell ?

@@arianalikens5300 if she kills Felix Faust, who is an innocent protecting his home in this regard Her soul shall be doomed to hell and will get tormented for eternity John knows it so he warns her

I'd like to know what the backward speaking says :)

Thankfully, it has never happened to me, but by the grace of God alone.

Look up "starlight breaker", Felix tried but the real one would have him shitting himself.

Gary Madafaka-Oak real men wear pink

More like purple, but hey. At least you tried.

Well, he was the inspiration for Madoka Magica

@@fenrir6002 He does not know how to make friends

Explain. Cause that doesn't make much sense in my head.

@@yoursafeplace8476 Usually when she casts spells the phrase/sentence is normal with only the individual words being backwards. She also pronounces words backwards instead of literally saying them in reverse. (so basically if you reverse her audio it would consist of mostly gibberish) Example: "No More Witches" would be, "On erom Sehctiw" (words are backward, sentence isn't so if the audio of this is reversed it would seem to be, "Witches More No" ) Now, it would seem like she was just saying 'witches more no' but because of how it would be pronounced the reversed audio would literally make no sense. Example: A word like say, 'Levitate' would be pronounced backwards as "E-TAT-TI-VEL" BUT if you record someone saying it and reversed the audio it would be something like, "TAAT-IV-EL" Because when we are pronouncing the word backwards we incorporate the 'e' at the front because of proper grammar but when we actually say the word we leave out the same 'e'. So when Zatanna is possessed with power she goes fully reversed. (as in this video) As in if you reverse the audio you hear her exact words and understand. So in essence it's pronouncing words backwards vs speaking audibly in reverse. Hope this makes some sense.

@@amahlgrant Yup, makes perfect sense. I was thinking it'd be along those lines but I thought some of her spells weren't just backwards words but reverse speak as you've differentiated it. I appreciate the long form explanation.

wasn’t she speaking like this throughout the whole movie

@@roach1369 yes she was lol

This scene goes against your theory.

@@Nepthu only in this movie, in comics zatanna mentions how it's only for concetraction and of a form of family tradition

@@complex6753 in other words if she did magic without speaking who knows what she would unleash, remember she flies with magic and some of her movements as well as that stored magic and so on... she was holding back, because without her voice she has less control perhaps when it comes to truly powerful magic

In the comics she can perform magic from her thoughts

Isn't this more of the brand of "Zatarra's and Zatanna's" Incantation rather than unique spells. Even Constantine managed to learn this. Though she might have been able to conjure more powerful magics using such a method.

Yes!!!!

She could still use a bit of body armor. Or at least bringing along a taser or similar non-magical weapon

@@toddkes5890 she brought a wand that shoots lightning I think that’s a bit better than a taser

@@dalekcaan8495 Taser is non-magical, in case the opponent has anti-magic defenses. Basically, she is expecting all of her fights to only be magical, and has no backup capability that is different from her primary power. Other examples would be: - Batman making sure to have a Feather Fall item handy (so the situation in Dark Heart would not have been as critical for him) - Superman having a radiation belt to protect himself from Kryptonite (BTAS: World's Finest) - Wonder Woman having some form of ranged combat - Martian Manhunter having a few Elide Fire Balls that he can toss at a fire and put it out - Hawkwoman having a ranged weapon - Green Lantern having basic body armor instead of relying on his ring all the time - Flash having some sort of non-speed capability so he can not worry as much about falling (I am Legion) - someone providing basic psionic protection so the group doesn't get puppeted (Eclipsed - Part 1, or Grudge Match)

@@toddkes5890 tasers would probably not be a very good choice even then considering anyone with defences against magic is likely far more dangerous than a baseline human like the tazers are meant for but I do agree that the justice league not covering for their weaknesses is dumb and anyhow how come Martian manhunter can't shapeshift into a fire resistant form

If only their movies were this good (excluding the animated ones)

@@roturro Hey, we got two movies that fixed the two worst, "Suicide Squad and Justice League" and both were amazing, be appreciative!

@@amahlgrant fair point

@@roturro not fair point that second suicide squad was ass

@@tmills7374 relatively, i myself, enjoyed it

omg fr but Zatanna wasn’t pist off she literally was in control mode lol 😅💀

@@gabesimmer101 Yeah, and to be fair Child had access to the power of ALL the Chaos Lords so... Zatanna realistically couldn't do much.

@@gabesimmer101 the fact her shield held up against the power of all of the Chaos Lords is actually quite impressive

Child is stronger

លោកហោ

I believe this potential power of Zatanna’s came from a darker side of her usual power. In her perspective that power is too dangerous for anyone around her

Have you seen the new movie?

@@serenity9579 I didn't when I first commented but I do know now that they get together in the end

@@fish_in_a_chicken_smokin_a3660 I actually don't think so. They just go away by the end of the movie. But since they are a couple in the second part it's sure that somewhere in the timejump they got back together

Not as much of a power couple as Constantine and King Shark.

@@ccggenius I was about to say

Tbf TV Dinners are actually delicious though NCS aproves - well, depends on the company XD -

@@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962 ehhh I don't know the best TV dinner I've ever had was just good I find that there are better alternatives for quick meals

Only to then make himself into a hypocrite by casting a bunch of magic circles. Which shoot beams of energy. I mean, hey, it's not like we've seen many anime where the characters use magic circles before. Come on, Faust! Give us something impressive and innovative!

@@DoctorWhoKage stone hand was cool

Yeah tough, they're exlovers in the past when they're young because of their dark past. Its not toxic relationship or environment. Its because of the tragic event & experience that really split the both them. Also thought John is toxic & a trickster just to do what he wants due of self interest? No, because those who cared or around him died. Its like a curse on him & he pushed them away in order to keep them safe. It is tragedy, guilted & depression that strucked him. That made himself isolated & a man who he really is. Their is doubt about it. However, they still going to need each other. Till love will return to them & redemption will come to John & Zatanna in the end.

@@donpula6349 hope this gonna be Canon in comic or animated universe

Frederick Hicban In the comics, John was a stalker to Zatanna and a even worse bastard then he is in this movie. The movie shows off a more sympathetic version of him and leaves some of the bad shit he has done. Constantine knows that he’s not good for anyone to be around especially Zatanna. Everyone around him either dies or suffers a fate worse than death. It’s not entirely his fault for being connected to the synchronicity wave that gives him impeccable luck but leaves everyone else to suffer. John Constantine knows that he’s not a hero nor someone you should know. He’ll save your life sure, but it won’t be in the way you expect.

Now they are

@@keithwong506 really?

No, it's actually not. Omni-magic isn't the same by any stretch of the imagination.

He cannot allow her not only Becouse of that but he want her soul to be clear. If she would kill him she would be damned to hell

@@dante1221 She is equal to the Spectre.

@@KenKaneki-st6td hey do you remember where this was stated? I once read it but can't recall and want to read it again...

Yo, my ma's name is Karia.

The explained it in a later movie that she could have stopped the war but she asked John for permission to go all out and he froze or something like that then she was killed by parademon hybrids

@@318jaay no, she and batman casted a spell on him so that if her life is in danger Constantine would run away instead of try to save her and get himself killed as well. That's why he froze.

Given the entire JL’s experience, they shouldn’t have gotten massacred like that in the first place. But yes, Paradooms made an impossibly quick work of her.

ya they nerfed her for plot

or herself while she and constantine avoided from being killed escape apokolips to earth.

Quân Dương Nah she's a noob. Real mages don't need words for their magic.

@@tronovonflidder775 that was a high class magic . Not the usual rabbit under the hat.

@@tronovonflidder775 she doesn’t???

@@tronovonflidder775 zatanna doesn’t need to speak. And she isn’t even a noob, she literally folded the comic itself like dawg 💀

@@Marcoluvscake Bro I can fold a comic too. Not hard if you got hands.

And Constantine too!

There is already a Constantine movie, and he is really good ^^

Animated movie?

Nope, a "live" one ^^ With Keanu Reeves as John

UzuRyu I prefer Matt Ryan for John

She has a problem of focus and believing in herself,even though she's so freaking powerful. Her dad thought her the method of saying what she wants to manifest backwards and that helped her. That's why she doesn't need spells,she literally just says what she wants to do or what you to do backwards

@Aj_ay in your dream bud😂

Well, she was using magic in this scene without being able to speak.

That's in the comics, at times where she was probably way more trained than she is now.

@Corey The wand was apparently "stored magic", basically a magic item that can do a few things.

Bcz live action is trash. It can't really capture these characters like 2d does.

Because a live action Zatanna would be absolutely awful, especially from the nutjobs who control DCCU.

@@akale2620 That's not exactly true, look at live action Iron Man, the absolute best version of the character, because Robert Downey Jr brought his own charm into the mix. Same with Deadpool and Ryan Reynolds. DCCU just doesn't know how to make good movies.

@@fehoobar your marvel examples don't make sense. We are specifically talking about live action dc movies here. Esp the current ones , also it's dceu not dccu.

@@akale2620 No one said the comments were just about dc live actions, but I don't think we disagree here, just your average miscommunication on the internet. I never cared enough to know the terms so I just went with what marvel has and extrapolated to dc. Who cares anyway? There's like half a good movie in them combined. It's truly baffling they have absolutely no idea how to make a superhero movie.

NOO!

There was a movie like that but it got canceled. But don't worry, a movie about Justice League Dark in Worlds of DC is in production with Zatanna in it.

Korra's successor in the modern days. :D

Horace Warfield comes from an Earth family then.

Zatanna as the Avatar. That'd be a good idea for a fanfic.

Jigoku Yenn finally! Someone who thinks that!

Jigoku Yenn Please don't compare this guy to the King Of Heroes. Smh.

no it's unlimited blade works

funny fact most cartoons that uses mystic's always refers back to the bible doing king Solomon reign

Linh Nguyen aye

Actually John is a Bis. He and Chas chandler/ his best friend screwing each other 😂 go read new 52 constantine and the Rebirth Hellblazer.

*sigh* there's always that one person who ships characters -_-. dont get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that. it's just that it's too cheesy. makes me want to gag.

@@John-xv1pv him and king shark were an item once.

@@matthewedwards6454 briefly after zatannas death probably

No, Raven is. If Raven had trul let go, that war with Darkseid would have been avoided....

@@marcusmoralie9307 apparently someone doesn't have a single clue what Zatanna is capable of doing. 🙄 P.S. Zatanna has fought magical gods, and have taken them down before. What is Raven gonna do to her? Zatanna can just wipe Raven's memories and tell her to 'go to hell', backwards.

​@@Evil_BeautyIm sorry but Zatanna isn't going to do anything to Raven.

@@WinniePooh33 care to refute, let alone elaborate as to how? I know Raven literally can't do anything without her daddy Trigon backing her up in her corner. But just so you know, Zatanna has literally sealed, and imprisoned one of the most DANGEROUS entities in all of the entire DC universe within herself, and simply because that entity can't be destroyed/defeated, *PERIOD.* It can only be CONTAINED by his polar half, whom is EQUAL to him in POWER. Which goes to show just how ridiculously dangerous, and powerful he is. And that entity is literally the embodiment of ALL that is evil MAGIC incarnate. Something that is the source of Raven's powers. Hell, it even CONSUMED its polar OPPOSITE that is a PRIMORDIAL BEING. Raven ain't gonna do jack sh*t to Zatanna while she is in hold of a being that can make evil look like child's play from a bedtime horror story. Hell, with the Upside-Down Man in possession of Zatanna's powers/abilities, he'll scare Trigon into next Halloween, as he shows Trigon what true evil, and horror is really all about, a complete joke to him. A boogeyman story he uses to scare demons like Trigon as a hobby, and silly past time of his. Upside-Down Man will freeze all of Hellraiser over with his brand of nightmare fuel horror as Trigon and the rest of his demon lackeys piss their pants in hellfire lol! 😂 P.S. Oh, and btw. Zatanna literally sealed Upside-Down Man within his own dimension too. HIS OWN HOME TURF WHERE HE HOLDS THE MOST POWER! Raven go cry to daddy.

​@@Evil_Beauty u do know that zatannas magic would bounce of raven AND u r telling that zatanna trapped a powerful entity within herself that's LITERALLY what raven did with TRIGON

Well, damn, that does throw a wrench. What if the target was trans or genderfluid? 😆

he got folded by faust 😂

@@tanti1083 that is a good counter argument

@@tanti1083 he also has tricked God and first of fallen many times but that's hell blazer

@@lolxd3337 Hellblazer Constantine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

@@cainyourkids facts

Wolfie Who yep there it goes shipping people, sorry it bothers me

why

Have you seen how very stiff and uninteresting from the fight scene animation of Fairy Tail since its anime return in 2014 so far?

Watch FT 2014 fight scenes and find out.

Speaking of anime, I'd love to see Zatanna in Fate/Stay Night (check it out if you haven't seen it: the prequel Fate Zero, then the original 2006 Fate/Stay Night, then Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works). I can see it now, her and Arturia as her Servant, not to mention Zatanna could potentially hold her own against a Servant, which is a big deal in the Fate universe because "Servants" are powerful and should not be fought without another Servant by your side.

That'd be an awesome crossover

Cause she got overrun before being able to concentrate long enough to do shit; and John didn't help not because he didn't want to but, because he was mind controlled not to.

She could have just said "Eid Lla Smoodarap" and the ones around are long gone. They nerfed her a lot.

@@aravagingstar they nerfed everyone in that movie mostly because if they didnt they didnt know how to reset the universe and the studio wanted the whole thing gone.

Because they were doomsday clones that were near immortal, have the physical power of near gods, and were ambushing them while she was fouced on saving John who Batman wanted reserved as a backup plan. She took a full minute start up to summon the power in this clip and those things wouldn’t have been pushed back by that little light show. and even if like what she survives an extra minute before omega beams tear her to pieces.

@@dragonlogos1 parademons with Superman's DNA and since he's vulnerable to magic they will be too*

Yeah but that's because he doesn't have a God-Mode

If your referring to his cloak and multiple god items that comic version of him is bullshit

Constantine doesn't need a god-mode, he's playing with cheats enabled. His innate luck power is basically deus ex machina for literally everything. He's always in the right spot, knows the right people, has the right item, and other assorted nonsense. Not even Fate itself can f with Constantine

John isn't about the immense cosmic power. He might not have the crazy potential at his fingertips, but that's because his power is more subtle. He knows where to find powerful magic artifacts and allies, he knows how to exploit weaknesses. John is basically magic Batman. Tough if you catch him unaware but unbeatable with enough prep time. The difference is that batman is all about certainty, not taking risks unless they're essential. John is a gambler. His risks just have a tendency to pan out more often than not because he's literally supernaturally lucky. Also John isn't big on flat out fighting in the best incarnations. He might square off if he has a massive upper hand, but he prefers tricks and deception if he can help it.

Ummh... can you do that with YT or videos in the internet though

The big spell was definitely fully backwards but her usual stuff wasn't

Raybrand 天 more based on species than blood

but in this case isn't zatanna a certain subspecies of human that have greater magic potential

Not really. Anyone can learn magic but Zatanna is Homo-Magi meaning she has a natural affinity for the mystic arts bc her bloodline comes from descendants of magical beings. Faust never had magic to begin with, he learned it and sold his soul to the devils I think in exchange for more power. That's why Zatanna is never seen using artifacts, spellbooks, or other magical items. Her magic comes from within. If you noticed Faust carried a spellbook around with him throughout the entire fight, that mixed with his dark magic is where his magic comes from.

Anyone in DC comics can learn magic. However, some people have a greater affinity or are magical/mystical by nature. Constantine is a human that has learned magic. That's why he often uses objects. This was portrayed in the movie and in comics.

WADE Green Jr. Gotta disagree mate. Even Constantine comes from a blood line of magic. His blood line gives him luck. That a reason why when he gambles or cons he hardly lose. But yeah, Zee, Faust, Raven, Fate or most magic users have more raw power than Constantine. But his quick wit conquers that raw power.

They had to keep her under control somehow

Yeah but gotta keep the tension. That facet of her is typically left out of adaptations.

No one Scarlet witch no sweat. Being one of the 2 people who got rid of the dark phoenix is no easy also wiping out mutants from across the multiverse in a couple seconds soo.

Scarlet Witch's powers fluctuate more than the stock market. She's a street magician one day and a multiversal reality warper the next. Meanwhile Zatanna is always great at what she does.

Aeiou Mnjwpykt It all falls down on the yee old plot devie that is string emotion.

No one Depends, is it Zatanna whose being babied by Zatara or a Zatanna allowed to cut loose? If she's not being babied then yeah, she wipes the floor with scarlet witch. Her magic is nearly unmatched it's just that in most iterations she's being treated like a child and forced to suppress her powers.

If we're being honest with ourselves, Scarlet Witch with ease.

Atleast Wanda doesn’t have to talk and prepare to cast magic don’t even bring up Wanda

Wanda or The Scarlet Witch?

@@randomname6069 Wanda is the scarlet witch stop acting up

@@maybeitsmen right

@@maybeitsmen zatanna also doesn't have to speak

Different writers different limitations

@@WinniePooh33 Different writers are worse than others.

Doctor strange is a copy of doctor fate so no not really.

+auron1roxas2 but what does dr fate have to do with this?? he isnt in the movie at all not even a reference he was talking about felix

Are you really this fucking stupid?

@@Auron1Roxas2 are you?

@@mikapoful Clearly you are.

This is a really weird limitation that people put on her to handicap her, but she is actually capable of using nonverbal magic. She even told Nightwing that she only uses backwards speech as a tool to focus.

Bro

Pfft UBW is more op

Bearwithit freaking dragon slayer

The movie would have been over even before it started if this zatanna had been there . 😏😏😏

How?

@@cesarzpontu8886 she is a plot armor and can pull a win out of her ass.

Depends is Scarlet Witch is stable or not. If not then she could simply changs the universe to fit her vision

abdul rob yes, but she also needs to recite an incantation for most magic, while Scarlett Witch just *wave wave boom boom* -so descriptive- so I think it's an even match.

True except for the House of M Scarlet Witch

+Collin Wilson No she can't.

Luke Ed and zatanna can bend reality and reality warp the same thing scarlet can do zatanna was also trained by dr Faye Circe and enchantress great powerful magic users than on top of that she comes from a line of powerful magic users she’s on pair with scarlet

Because Felix Faust sees Zatanna as the true threat to him and he had countermeasures to deal with her.

for man everywhere

... sexist XD

Correction for pathetic fuckboys everywhere.

@@TheWarmachine375 alot of good that did him huh

prime scarlet witch vs prime zatanna, scarlett witch stomps on raw power. the only way zatanna wins is if she takes advantage of wanda's mental instability.

@@MrGhostTheBigRoast Prime Zatanna can absolutely match Scarlet Witch in power, her magic is based on belief, so if she believes she's strong enough, she can take Wanda down.

That's where Constantine would come in. That's his specialty.

I think it's because Zatanna's main limitation with her magic is that she has to use verbal incantations (by saying stuff backwards) in order to cast spells. It's just how her character works, for the most part. I think there's also something about her being able to cast without speaking, but I'm going to assume that they wanted higher stakes for the fight.

Her problem is her focus that’s why she has to use words, if she believed in her self she wouldn’t need to talk at all

@@crownedking_cj8890 Ohh, thank you!

DC animated >>> Marvel animated Marvel live action >>> DC live action

@@absolutegarbage3654 yep, just wish the companies would understand that.